Bran is 33-31 in the West without AD

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

28-27 in 2019
5-3 last season
0-1 this season

Anyone knows?

Multiple 4th quarter no shows and meltdowns on both ends. Numerous clutch shots and winners missed

Can Bran make the Western Conference playoffs without Anthony the Brow Davis?

Anyone knows?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef6Qkg9WAAAf0wU?format=jpg

[TheGoatest]

0-1 this season


Caught before the edit.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202012270LAL.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202101080LAL.html

Typical LeBron haters. Ignore facts and see only what they want to see:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8qcccZy03s

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

2-1 this season **

35-31 record. 43 win season over 82 games.

Is that good? Is that enough in the West? Can he make the yoffs without AD?

[bullettooth]

Clearly not enough help. LOL.

[aj1987]

KD lost a Finals with 2 other MVP's and 2 All-Def players on this team. Had to run to a 73 win team to save face.

KG had 1 ring in nearly 20 seasons.

CP3 has ONE CF appearance in his career.

Also, you shouldn't really be talking about missing game winners. KD missed 4 this season already. :roll: :roll:

[Axe]

And i thought op also belongs in the king kong bran fam. Or so it seems...

[SouBeachTalents]

Still better than Jordan without Pippen

[k0kakw0rld]

How do you feel constantly trying to prove a point that no one cares about bro. Get a f**kin life please.

[LAL]

Wow

[3ball]

If lebron was capable of taking any team to the Finals, he wouldn't have left Cleveland in 2011 after losing to a 1-star underdog in 2009, and another underdog in 2010.

Nor would he be lottery with Ingram, and 35-31 lottery record overall without AD

Nor would he have missed the playoffs with the East all-star center on his team in 05'

Here's the facts - lebron was a 1-trick pony before the "decision", with only 1 Finals run like Iverson, Dwight and Kidd.. then he teamed up with all the best players, which elevated him to champion.. he never elevated teammates - he just teamed up/stacked the deck, aka talent-based winning..

talent-based winning loses to organic ball movement, so lebron has a lottery record against the Spurs, Mavs and Warriors.

[HylianNightmare]

Leneedsmorehelp classic

[clutchinho]

Here's one stat you won't see on ESPN

[ImKobe]

No AD, no chip. Losing to a washed up Blake Griffin :kobe:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

No AD, no chip. Losing to a washed up Blake Griffin :kobe:

35-31 is a .530 winning record

The 8 seed Blazers are 9-8 for. .529 record

Looks like Bran might be able to barely crawl in without AD.
But will he hold serve?

I don't believe the Lakers were 8 seed last year but I could be wrong. Anyone knows?

[aj1987]

35-31 is a .530 winning record

The 8 seed Blazers are 9-8 for. .529 record

Looks like Bran might be able to barely crawl in without AD.
But will he hold serve?

I don't believe the Lakers were 8 seed last year but I could be wrong. Anyone knows?
Since math isn't your strong suit, let me help you, retard. :cheers:

The Lakers were 5-3 without AD last season. That's a 51 win pace with a max salary player not playing.

The Lakers are 2-1 without AD this season. That's a 55 win pace with a max salary player not playing.

The Lakers were 2-2 without LeBron last season. That's a 42 win pace without LeBron.

LeBron has yet to miss a game this season, so we don't know how the Lakers do without him.

tl;dr - The Lakers a still a 50+ win team without AD, but are BARELY a .500 team without LeBron.

Meanwhile, KD lost a Finals with 2 other MVP's and 2 All-Def players on this team. Had to run to a 73 win team to save face.

KG had 1 ring in nearly 20 seasons.

CP3 has ONE CF appearance in his career.

Also, you shouldn't really be talking about missing game winners. KD missed 4 this season already.

[SouBeachTalents]

35-31 is a .530 winning record

The 8 seed Blazers are 9-8 for. .529 record

Looks like Bran might be able to barely crawl in without AD.
But will he hold serve?

I don't believe the Lakers were 8 seed last year but I could be wrong. Anyone knows?
Don't know if a Durant stan wants to bring up a teams W/L record without players

https://i.ibb.co/GW8xMrX/1.jpg

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Don't know if a Durant stan wants to bring up a teams W/L record without players

https://i.ibb.co/GW8xMrX/1.jpg

Damn that's crazy. Their finals record must be crazy without him too. Like in 2019 in the games he didn't play?

Or how about their record this season and last season? Anyone knows?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Since math isn't your strong suit, let me help you, retard. :cheers:

The Lakers were 5-3 without AD last season. That's a 51 win pace with a max salary player not playing.

The Lakers are 2-1 without AD this season. That's a 55 win pace with a max salary player not playing.

The Lakers were 2-2 without LeBron last season. That's a 42 win pace without LeBron.

LeBron has yet to miss a game this season, so we don't know how the Lakers do without him.

tl;dr - The Lakers a still a 50+ win team without AD, but are BARELY a .500 team without LeBron.

Meanwhile, KD lost a Finals with 2 other MVP's and 2 All-Def players on this team. Had to run to a 73 win team to save face.

KG had 1 ring in nearly 20 seasons.

CP3 has ONE CF appearance in his career.

Also, you shouldn't really be talking about missing game winners. KD missed 4 this season already.

Didn't read Apu

Hope Kwik E Mart is doing well with COVID :cheers:

[paksat]

No AD




No wade









no kyrie








no love


























































no championships! :roll:

[Lebron23]

1x nba champion in the West

[3ball]

Lebron can't win without an equal scoring partner - he needs an elite 1st option to play sidekick that is capable of outscoring him for a playoff run (11' Wade, 16' Kyrie, 20' AD).

He can't win with true 2nd options that average far less in the Finals because he shoots poorly at the higher volume required of playing with 2nd options (more contested jumpshooting required)

[999Guy]

Lebron can't win without an equal scoring partner - he needs an elite 1st option to play sidekick that is capable of outscoring him for a playoff run (11' Wade, 16' Kyrie, 20' AD).

He can't win with true 2nd options that average far less in the Finals because he shoots poorly at the higher volume required of playing with 2nd options (more contested jumpshooting required)

This is why you are the worst forum poster ever. You are objectively wrong and the ideas you created based on being wrong are logically unsound to begin with.

LeBron James won the 2013 NBA Finals MVP with no one close to his production the entire playoff run. You ignored this entire reality, and then claimed he NEEDS a certain level of performance from teammates he doesn’t.


There should be bots to just spam messages every time you post your horseshit.

Your ignoring me is not some win for you either, dummy.

[AirBonner]

Was MJ playing in year 18?

[3ball]

This is why you are the worst forum poster ever. You are objectively wrong and the ideas you created based on being wrong are logically unsound to begin with.

LeBron James won the 2013 NBA Finals MVP with no one close to his production the entire playoff run.





No one cares about carry-jobs against bad teams

Do you care about that?... You shouldn't - it means nothing

Lebron only averaged 5 more than Wade in the 13' Finals against a good team because he can't win a Finals with a true 2nd option that averages far less - he needs an elite 1st option to play 1b

And it's a skill-deficit - he can't win with true 2nd options because he shoots poorly at the higher volume required of playing with 2nd options (more contested jumpshooting required)

This is all proven by stats

[Hey Yo]

James avg. 6 more ppg than Wade that series and outscored him by 14 in game 7. Outscored Bosh, Miller and Ray also that game a combined 37-0. Led the team in scoring, rebounding and assists for the entire series.

That's a definition of a true carry job.

[3ball]

James avg. 6 more ppg than Wade that series and outscored him by 14 in game 7. Outscored Bosh, Miller and Ray also that game a combined 37-0. Led the team in scoring, rebounding and assists for the entire series.

That's a definition of a true carry job.


Lebron was a net negative in the 2013 Finals - the Heat lost with him on the floor and the stats show that he sucked

For example, his teammates avoided an 0-3 deficit while lebron averaged 16 on 39% for the first 3 games..

And his 23 on 43% thru 6 games was insufficient, thus needing Ray to force Game 7.

Ultimately, lebron averaged 2 to 6 more than his sidekick in Finals wins (shared load), versus 10-20 for MJ (carry-job)

Again, lebron needs an elite 1st option to play sidekick (1b) - he can't win with a true 2nd option that scores far less in the Finals because he's shoots poorly at the high volume required of playing with 2nd options (more contested jumpshooting required)

[FireDavidKahn]

IF AD was so good then surely he would have won the FMVP, right?

[Hey Yo]

Leading your team in scoring, rebounding and assists aka "picking up the slack" >>>>> just scoring while not needing to do much else

[dankok8]

Leading your team in scoring, rebounding and assists aka "picking up the slack" >>>>> just scoring while not needing to do much else

AD led Lebron in scoring last year in the regular season and playoffs though. Also anchored the defense... We'll see this season but my gut tells me that if AD falls off sharply from last year's pace that the Lakers will struggle.

Anyways Lebron not winning without AD isn't really a shot at Lebron. Nobody can win without a cast but this goes to show LeLunatics that everyone needs a good cast to win titles. And Lebron is no exception.

[aj1987]

Didn't read Apu

Hope Kwik E Mart is doing well with COVID :cheers:

You mean can't read, Darnell?

Hope you're still not out in the streets, stealing and burning down buildings, just cause another scumbag got shot by a cop. :cheers:


Damn that's crazy. Their finals record must be crazy without him too. Like in 2019 in the games he didn't play?

Or how about their record this season and last season? Anyone knows?

Damn, that's crazy! KD's Finals record without Curry much be crazy too. Like in 2016, when he was up 3-1 in the WCF. He must've made the Finals and won it, right?

Or how about KD's record this season with Harden AND Kyrie? Must be undefeated. Anyone Knows? :cheers:

[paksat]

Lebron was a net negative in the 2013 Finals - the Heat lost with him on the floor and the stats show that he sucked

For example, his teammates avoided an 0-3 deficit while lebron averaged 16 on 39% for the first 3 games..

And his 23 on 43% thru 6 games was insufficient, thus needing Ray to force Game 7.

Ultimately, lebron averaged 2 to 6 more than his sidekick in Finals wins (shared load), versus 10-20 for MJ (carry-job)

Again, lebron needs an elite 1st option to play sidekick (1b) - he can't win with a true 2nd option that scores far less in the Finals because he's shoots poorly at the high volume required of playing with 2nd options (more contested jumpshooting required)

Interestingly I find it funny that they use the very tip of the top of the stats they can use ( the 13 finals ) rather than the medium aka the average.

[3ball]

Interestingly I find it funny that they use the very tip of the top of the stats they can use ( the 13 finals ) rather than the medium aka the average.

Exactly

And even if we included 2013 Finals as a "carry-job" (a massive stretch) - that's the best example they have of lebron winning a Finals as a carry-job, which makes the point that he can't win as a carry-job with a "true" 2nd option like Klay, Pippen, or Jason Terry that average far less..

Ultimately, it's a skill-deficit - he can't win with a 2nd option because he shoots poorly at the higher volume required (more contested jumpshots).. So he needs a 1b that can match or exceed him in scoring for a playoff run (11' Wade, 16' Kyrie, 20' AD).. He needs an elite 1st option to play sidekick

[SouBeachTalents]

Damn that's crazy. Their finals record must be crazy without him too. Like in 2019 in the games he didn't play?

Or how about their record this season and last season? Anyone knows?
Bruh, 31-1. Without a guy unanimously considered top 20-25 all time and top 2-3 in the league. I'd love to see an example of a team going 31-1 in any context, I bet it's extraordinarily rare, if it's happened at all

[Hey Yo]

Interestingly I find it funny that they use the very tip of the top of the stats they can use ( the 13 finals ) rather than the medium aka the average.
I find it funny that can't type L3br9n anymore.

[SATAN]

35-31 is a .530 winning record

The 8 seed Blazers are 9-8 for. .529 record

Looks like Bran might be able to barely crawl in without AD.
But will he hold serve?

I don't believe the Lakers were 8 seed last year but I could be wrong. Anyone knows?

If it were AD without LeBron the numbers would be way worse. Thread is stupid. Especially when coasting is taken into context.

[imdaman99]

Nets blowing out OKC without the cupcake :roll: Everyone eating :pimp:

[999Guy]

No one cares about carry-jobs against bad teams

Do you care about that?... You shouldn't - it means nothing

Lebron only averaged 5 more than Wade in the 13' Finals against a good team because he can't win a Finals with a true 2nd option that averages far less - he needs an elite 1st option to play 1b

And it's a skill-deficit - he can't win with true 2nd options because he shoots poorly at the higher volume required of playing with 2nd options (more contested jumpshooting required)

This is all proven by stats
I’m sure you don’t care about something that exposes how dumb your arguments are.

What does th quality of any playoff team ever have to do with a discussion about what it takes for LeBron to win a title?

You are moving goalposts and being stupid and wrong in general. Of course people give a shit about carry jobs against bad teams. Have you missed the entirety of NBA history? Every Shaq or Duncan prime NBA finals ever? Russell’s? Magic’s entire western conference playoff career.

And why is your argument always dumb on every level? Why are you talking about just scoring? Highest scorer = Automatic best player to you? That’s the level of thought you spam thousands of posts of?

Wade was not just far worse at scoring than LeBron in the finals, he was terrible in general.

You said LeBron was a net negative, Wade was -54 on a series that came down to 4 points.


You dunce.

So who was Miami’s best player according to you? After you say something dumb and wrong about that, explain why I would buy into the dumb idea that LeBron can’t carry against a good team, when defense is really the crux of your argument and he’s destroyed plenty of elite defenses singlehandedly?


Why would I care about any of your arguments about titles even if I’m dumb enough to buy them?


Meaning LeBron supposedly won 4(going on 5), bad or subpar NBA titles. What is the value of titles then? If you can win shitty titles, don’t titles mean shit ultimately? Which would lead me to asking why would you spam thousands of times about antiquated bullshit that means nothing?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Nets blowing out OKC without the cupcake :roll: Everyone eating :pimp:

.500 without KD now :applause:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

5-5 without AD this season

38-35 for Bran in the Wild Wild West without AD

:oldlol::oldlol:

[aj1987]

.500 without KD now :applause:

The Warriors, however, are coming off five straight wins in these playoffs without Durant including a sweep of the Portland Trail Blazers in the Western conference finals. The Warriors are also 31-1 in their last 32 games when Steph Curry plays and Durant sits.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

The Warriors, however, are coming off five straight wins in these playoffs without Durant including a sweep of the Portland Trail Blazers in the Western conference finals. The Warriors are also 31-1 in their last 32 games when Steph Curry plays and Durant sits.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Talk to me when the Warriors are able to make the playoffs post KD :cheers:

[aj1987]

Talk to me when the Warriors are able to make the playoffs post KD :cheers:

Talk to me when K_ can win a title without jumping on to a 73 win team. :cheers:

[Axe]

Talk to me when the Warriors are able to make the playoffs post KD :cheers:
Unlikely without klay

[tpols]

The Warriors, however, are coming off five straight wins in these playoffs without Durant including a sweep of the Portland Trail Blazers in the Western conference finals. The Warriors are also 31-1 in their last 32 games when Steph Curry plays and Durant sits.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wait... you fellas are repping Curry now?

:biggums:

[Turbo Slayer]

Unlikely without klay Klay is essential to the team. This.

[Axe]

Klay is essential to the team. This.
:cheers:

[Turbo Slayer]

:cheers: :cheers:

Took a long break from forums in general. I will try to be more active this year.

[Axe]

:cheers:

Took a long break from forums in general. I will try to be more active this year.
Lol. A lot has changed but mj vs. lbj debates are still a norm in this board. :oldlol:

[Turbo Slayer]

The Warriors, however, are coming off five straight wins in these playoffs without Durant including a sweep of the Portland Trail Blazers in the Western conference finals. The Warriors are also 31-1 in their last 32 games when Steph Curry plays and Durant sits.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Destroyed his silly ass. :oldlol:

[Turbo Slayer]

Lol. A lot has changed but mj vs. lbj debates are still a norm in this board. :oldlol: Bunch of wackos on the NBA forum (I don't mean you of course). I see that alts committed to slurping Bron are still rampant. And of course the opposite of them is alive and well.

[aj1987]

Wait... you fellas are repping Curry now?

:biggums:

I'm just posting FACTS as I ALWAYS do. :confusedshrug: