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PeroAntic
01-31-2021, 10:56 PM
Jamal Murray
Donovan Mitchell
Zach Lavine
CJ McCollum

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-31-2021, 11:24 PM
Lavine
Mitchell
CJ
Murray

BigShotBob
01-31-2021, 11:26 PM
Mitchell
CJ
Murray
Lavine

Cyrus334
02-01-2021, 01:07 AM
Based off their play this season, I'd go with:

Lavine
CJ
Mitchell
Murray

But overall including past performances? I'd go:

Mitchell
Murray
CJ
Lavine

PeroAntic
02-01-2021, 07:52 AM
I don't know why but I see CJ as the worst out of them. Solid all round scorer but somehow the closest to a role player out of all of them.

Gudo
02-01-2021, 11:18 AM
Mitchell
Murray
Lavine
McCollum

k0kakw0rld
02-01-2021, 01:14 PM
Mal (Multiple 50 points + he just destroyed Mitchell in the playoffs not long ago).
Mitchell (You can put him first as well I won't be mad)
CJ (proven player in the playoffs but he is a wingman)
LaVine (no playoffs appearances)

Manny98
02-01-2021, 01:45 PM
1. Murray
2. CJ

3. Mitchell
4. Lavine

aj1987
02-01-2021, 03:46 PM
I don't get why people are so high on Lavine. Dude literally plays zero defense.

Gohan
02-01-2021, 03:49 PM
I don't get why people are so high on Lavine. Dude literally plays zero defense.

Defense, the most overrated aspect of the game

aj1987
02-01-2021, 03:54 PM
Defense, the most overrated aspect of the game

True. That's why so many shit defenders have led their teams to titles over the years.

PeroAntic
02-01-2021, 03:59 PM
I don't get why people are so high on Lavine. Dude literally plays zero defense.

Are the others better on defense?

dankok8
02-01-2021, 04:42 PM
Lavine
McCollum
Mitchell
Murray

I love Jamal but he just hasn't been good this year which is surprising after the playoffs he had. I have to rank him last. Mitchell has been better but other than his explosion in the last playoff against Denver he's done nothing. McCollum's been a good player for a long time and the way Lavine is playing this year he looks like the best of all of them.

aj1987
02-01-2021, 07:50 PM
Are the others better on defense?

None of them are as bad as Lavine on the defensive end.

PeroAntic
02-01-2021, 07:52 PM
None of them are as bad as Lavine on the defensive end.

Neither is Lavine this year, as much as his reputation is.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
02-01-2021, 08:13 PM
None of them are as bad as Lavine on the defensive end.

Beals been a part of the worst defense in the league 2 straight seasons now

Mitchell put up 36 PPG on 70 TS% mostly guarded by Murray. He only got clamped when Gary Harris came back and checked him. Murray had b2b 50 pieces on him and a huge series himself

CJ and Dame have been a bottom 3 defensive backcourt for many seasons now

none of these nikkas play D

Xiao Yao You
02-01-2021, 08:43 PM
Lavine
McCollum
Mitchell
Murray

I love Jamal but he just hasn't been good this year which is surprising after the playoffs he had. I have to rank him last. Mitchell has been better but other than his explosion in the last playoff against Denver he's done nothing. McCollum's been a good player for a long time and the way Lavine is playing this year he looks like the best of all of them.

not that surprising. The bubble isn't the same as traveling across the country and playing ball

tanibanana
02-02-2021, 03:43 AM
Jamal Murray
Donovan Mitchell
CJ McCollum
Zach Lavine

Jasper
02-02-2021, 01:39 PM
3)Jamal Murray
1) Donovan Mitchell
2)Zach Lavine
4) CJ McCollum
next

AlternativeAcc.
02-02-2021, 01:47 PM
Jamal Murray
Donovan Mitchell
CJ McCollum
Zach Lavine

This

Lol @ losers ranking off a couple weeks in January :oldlol:

Murray is top 10 player in the world, he'll prove it again in the playoffs

hold this L
02-02-2021, 03:06 PM
Lavine and Murray at the bottom tier.

CJ and Mitchell.. I don't know whose better, both are so inconsistent but Mitchell has the higher upside due to age obviously.

tpols
02-02-2021, 03:08 PM
Pretty much the same thing all of them.

MaxPlayer
02-02-2021, 03:46 PM
This

Lol @ losers ranking off a couple weeks in January :oldlol:

Murray is top 10 player in the world, he'll prove it again in the playoffs

One hot streak doesn't make him a top 10 player

Xiao Yao You
02-02-2021, 04:06 PM
One hot streak doesn't make him a top 10 player

the bubble! :roll:

RRR3
02-02-2021, 04:15 PM
the bubble! :roll:
Just because Toody had one of the most embarrassing chokes of all time doesn’t make the bubble invalid. Sorry champ.

Xiao Yao You
02-02-2021, 04:54 PM
Just because Toody had one of the most embarrassing chokes of all time doesn’t make the bubble invalid. Sorry champ.

calling a guy a top 10 player based on what he did in a neutral environment with no travel or hostile crowd is invalid

ArbitraryWater
02-02-2021, 04:59 PM
Mitchell
LaVine
McCollum
Murray


Really tough, all neck and neck

Murray could easily jump #1

RRR3
02-02-2021, 05:20 PM
calling a guy a top 10 player based on what he did in a neutral environment with no travel or hostile crowd is invalid
No one seriously thinks Murray is a top 10 player but you don’t get to invalidate a playoffs in which everyone played on equal terms because the guy you furiously jerk off to choked. You’re an embracing troll, stop it.

Xiao Yao You
02-02-2021, 06:01 PM
No one seriously thinks Murray is a top 10 player but you don’t get to invalidate a playoffs in which everyone played on equal terms because the guy you furiously jerk off to choked. You’re an embracing troll, stop it.

I'm the troll! :lol

RRR3
02-02-2021, 06:22 PM
I'm the troll! :lol
Anyone who thinks Gobert>Anthony Davis and Embiid is a troll, yes.

Xiao Yao You
02-02-2021, 06:54 PM
Anyone who thinks Gobert>Anthony Davis and Embiid is a troll, yes.

Most voting for all league think Gobert is better than Embiid. Try again :facepalm

RRR3
02-02-2021, 07:02 PM
Most voting for all league think Gobert is better than Embiid. Try again :facepalm
I’ll respond to this when you respond to the AD part and stop dodging it like the cowardly troll you are.

SATAN
02-02-2021, 07:17 PM
Jamal Murray
Donovan Mitchell
Zach Lavine
CJ McCollum
Michael Jordan

k0kakw0rld
02-02-2021, 07:21 PM
Mitchell
LaVine
McCollum
Murray


Really tough, all neck and neck

Murray could easily jump #1

Have you seen LaVine perform in the playoffs? :confusedshrug:

Ok then!

k0kakw0rld
02-02-2021, 07:29 PM
2020/2021 season:

CJ McCollum is averaging 26.7 ppg on 47% FG in 13 games
Zach LaVine is averaging 26.6 ppg on 50% FG in 19 games
Donovan Mitchell is averaging 22.8 on 42% FG in 19 games
Jamal Murray is averaging 18.9 ppg on 45% FG in 19 games

CJ and LaVine so far are having a better start of the season compared to the other two. But playoffs matters most so. It really depends on what you looking for on your roster.

aj1987
02-05-2021, 12:12 AM
Neither is Lavine this year, as much as his reputation is.

You think Rose is still an elite player. :roll:

PeroAntic
02-05-2021, 07:25 AM
You think Rose is still an elite player. :roll:

there it is, when cornered about your dumb opinion about anything, always resort to switching the topic to Rose :roll:

aj1987
02-05-2021, 07:42 PM
there it is, when cornered about your dumb opinion about anything, always resort to switching the topic to Rose :roll:

It's not my opinion. It's a FACT that Lavine is a bad defender. Learn the difference between facts and opinions.

PeroAntic
02-05-2021, 08:18 PM
It's not my opinion. It's a FACT that Lavine is a bad defender. Learn the difference between facts and opinions.

Hes not a good defender, but hes not that bad either (this season) and certainly not much worse than the others.

wagexslave
02-06-2021, 03:54 AM
Hes not a good defender, but hes not that bad either (this season) and certainly not much worse than the others.

Lavine reminds me quite a bit of Devin Booker. Him and Booker will always get hate for their defense no matter how much they improve, because people just go by their old reputation. Shit, Booker has improved his D quite a lot and people still act like he's one of the worst defenders. Last season in my eyes he reached the level of "barely even a detriment anymore", and this year he's been at least average(and even quite good at times). Stats place him at close to the middle of the pack give or take in damn near every single stat(filtered by Guards who play over 25 mins). And my own eye test tells me he's played slightly above average in most games, but slumping for most of a game once in a while like on long road trips... or against bad teams he tends to not put as much effort for some stupid reason, and sadly that's been a team-wide issue too.

Don't get me wrong, he's obviously not top-tier by any means, but he's solid now and a hell of a lot better than he was when he was like 19-22 years old and one of the top 10 worst easily.

Actually now that I'm looking at the stats, they're showing Lavine still in the bottom 5 in most defensive stats. Granted, I rarely ever get a chance to see the Bulls play. But is there an explanation for that? I can't speak on the matter but I'm gonna assume that his eye test is better than the stats would suggest?

Druckenmiller
02-06-2021, 05:31 AM
NBA Shooting Guards? Easy list

1. Jarvis Crittendon
2. Jayson Williams
3. Shannon Brown
4. Gilbert Arenas

aj1987
02-09-2021, 09:00 PM
Hes not a good defender, but hes not that bad either (this season) and certainly not much worse than the others.

Doesn't matter. He's a worse defender than all the other players. Do you even watch basketball?

PeroAntic
02-09-2021, 09:03 PM
Doesn't matter. He's a worse defender than all the other players. Do you even watch basketball?

You should ask yourself that question because if you watch Lavine this season you would know that any difference in terms of defence with the other players is insignificant. And offensively hes better.

aj1987
02-09-2021, 09:10 PM
You should ask yourself that question because if you watch Lavine this season you would know that any difference in terms of defence with the other players is insignificant. And offensively hes better.

Again, no point in discussing ball with a dude who thinks Rose is still an elite player. :facepalm

PeroAntic
02-09-2021, 09:12 PM
Again, no point in discussing ball with a dude who thinks Rose is still an elite player. :facepalm
And were back at Rose. good job loser, tell that to Tom Thibodeau.

Bronbron23
02-09-2021, 09:15 PM
Lavine
Mitchell
CJ
Murray

Why you have lavine and especially cj over Murray?

aj1987
02-10-2021, 08:29 PM
And were back at Rose. good job loser, tell that to Tom Thibodeau.

Did I hurt your feelings, little girl? :oldlol: