How much more longer to wait on Brad Stevens?

[Nike D'Antoni]

He is no Doc Rivers, how many more years until the Celtics can him? When will Stevens take the Celtics to the next step?

[SouBeachTalents]

How much more long

[Wally450]

It's more Danny to get him an established big man. Brad's done well with what he's been given IMHO.

[AirBonner]

It's more Danny to get him an established big man. Brad's done well with what he's been given IMHO.

Agree somewhat. We have no decent vets to compliment our young core and Brad experimenting to much for short periods of time

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Stevens is a fine head coach.

He just needs LeBron.

[coin24]

Poor brad stevens, he had too much talent to coach..

Maybe he’d be more successful in the g league

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Poor brad stevens, he had too much talent to coach..

Maybe he’d be more successful in the g league

I don't know what people are complaining about. No coach could win with the teams Stevens had. Tatum and Brown are sidekicks at best. Kemba is not a serious threat to anyone and Kyrie is also a sidekick.

It's not like he's underachieving with the best players.

[pandiani17]

It think he's done good. Three Conference Finals in four years is not bad, is it? Some fans and reporters sometimes have ridiculous expectations.

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It think he's done good. Three Conference Finals in four years is not bad, is it? Some fans and reporters sometimes have ridiculous expectations.

I was going to say that. If anything he's overachieving - reaching the conference finals multiple times with a gaggle of sidekicks.

[Wally450]

It think he's done good. Three Conference Finals in four years is not bad, is it? Some fans and reporters sometimes have ridiculous expectations.

Yep. You get rid of Brad, it sets the franchise back 5 years. You got guys calling for his head when they lose while missing their entire backcourt. :hammerhead:

[Gudo]

Yep. You get rid of Brad, it sets the franchise back 5 years. You got guys calling for his head when they lose while missing their entire backcourt. :hammerhead:

On my part, it’s because of some winnable games or series’ we’ve had in the past number of years where I thought he didn’t make the right calls down the stretch. It’s knowing that those were some quite winnable games that is frustrating and obviously spilling on to brad.

My guess is our ceiling this year is the ecf, if we can make it that far. Tatum and brown are playing incredibly well. Kemba and our bench need to be more consistent. I think we need to reinforce the interior if we want to increase our chances this year. That one is on danny.

[Real Men Wear Green]

In the real world Stevens' job security isn't even a discussion. I don't know how long he will coach the Celtics but the end of his tenure is not in the foreseeable future.

[MaxPlayer]

He is no Doc Rivers

Is this supposed to be a criticism?

[FireDavidKahn]

Celtics will take the next step when they get a superstar/.

[FireDavidKahn]

Celtics will take the next step when they get a superstar/.

And no, Tatum isn't one yet. Definitely has the potential to develop into one. Without a superstar the ceiling of your team can only be so high and for the most part Brad has generally had them near the ceiling of a team without a superstar.

[imdaman99]

Would rather they get rid of Ainge instead.

[8Ball]

In the real world Stevens' job security isn't even a discussion. I don't know how long he will coach the Celtics but the end of his tenure is not in the foreseeable future.

Where do you see your problems lie?

I don't watch Celtic games so I am trying to figure out why Celtics are struggling even though they have 2 elite two way wings averaging 25ppg.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Where do you see your problems lie?

I don't watch Celtic games so I am trying to figure out why Celtics are struggling even though they have 2 elite two way wings averaging 25ppg.

The front court needs to get better, the defense took a step backwards and Kemba Walker hasn't been consistently good. Stevens could be questioned for who he chooses to play up front but none of the guys has truly separated himself from the others. I personally have the most faith in Theis but I have enough faith in Stevens to believe his judgements are better than mine especially as he sees these guys in practice so hopefully we see Thompson pay off or a mature Timelord by the end of the season.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Also the "struggle" isn't that bad. They're around 4th in the East I believe. Wouldn't take much for them to be in the top 3 by season's end and there's no doubt they will make playoffs. With no end to covid crowd protocol in sight home court will mean little and the only EC contender with guys better at creating shots is Brooklyn. Celtics are likely to be a better defensive team than them by season's end. Brooklyn and Philly are still the favorites but there's absolutely no reason to panic. Just a few posters on this forum that act like the world is ending every time there's a loss.

[AirBonner]

Also the "struggle" isn't that bad. They're around 4th in the East I believe. Wouldn't take much for them to be in the top 3 by season's end and there's no doubt they will make playoffs. With no end to covid crowd protocol in sight home court will mean little and the only EC contender with guys better at creating shots is Brooklyn. Celtics are likely to be a better defensive team than them by season's end. Brooklyn and Philly are still the favorites but there's absolutely no reason to panic. Just a few posters on this forum that act like the world is ending every time there's a loss.

The struggle is officially bad. Giving up a 24pt lead? Lolol

[Kiddlovesnets]

The Raptors are having a better record than the Celtics now?
:biggums:

[GOBB]

Danny Ainge the “genius” not lookin like so nowadays. Stevens is a legit coach, f*ck what y’all saying

[Real Men Wear Green]

The struggle is officially bad. Giving up a 24pt lead? Lolol
They're still around 4th. Not firing a coach that made conference finals 3 out of the last 4 years midway through the season regardless and especially when they're still very much a playoff team.

[AirBonner]

They're still around 4th. Not firing a coach that made conference finals 3 out of the last 4 years midway through the season regardless and especially when they're still very much a playoff team.

Yeah but it ultimately doesn’t solve our problems. being “okay” with mediocracy sucks the life out of a fan base

[scuzzy]

They're still around 4th. Not firing a coach that made conference finals 3 out of the last 4 years midway through the season regardless and especially when they're still very much a playoff team.
They won't be firing him midway through the season but getting over that playoff hump is the very reason many coaches get axed. Dwayne Casey had respectable playoff runs but Toronto dropped him and won with Nurse the following year. Boston's roster have been respectable and the East has been up for grabs without any dominant superpower for some time.

[tontoz]

3 ECFs without a top tier star. I think his job is pretty safe.

Not sure why the Celtics have such persistent haters.

[Real Men Wear Green]

They won't be firing him midway through the season but getting over that playoff hump is the very reason many coaches get axed. Dwayne Casey had respectable playoff runs but Toronto dropped him and won with Nurse the following year. Boston's roster have been respectable and the East has been up for grabs without any dominant superpower for some time.
You are ignoring all context. TO didn't just bring in Casey they traded for the best two-way player in the game and got to face a a WC champ without their two best players. You are nowhere near the total story. TO currently has a similar record to the Celtics. Should Nurse be fired?

[Gohan]

How much more long

You ain’t say shit when lebron said more better in an interview don’t get on op

[scuzzy]

You are ignoring all context. TO didn't just bring in Casey they traded for the best two-way player in the game and got to face a a WC champ without their two best players. You are nowhere near the total story. TO currently has a similar record to the Celtics. Should Nurse be fired?
I'm aware of the context, it's just that Steven's 8 year trial period is over and that is 4 more than most HC's get. He's had his a strong roster, he's had veteran stars, they were the seasonal favorites, they were 1st seeds and he's failed to deliver. But more importantly it's about how they came up short; twice losing as favorites to Bucks and Heat, once blowing a 2-0 ECF lead to Ty Lue, then the year prior swept and outcoached by David Blatt.

Stevens is simply one of those big name coaches that continually gets a pass for being mediocre. Lots of reg season hype that silences in the post season.

[Axe]

So who's going to replace him if ever he has to step down?

[AirBonner]

So who's going to replace him if ever he has to step down?
Nate McMillan

[Axe]

Nate McMillan
Yes to dark coaches

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm aware of the context, it's just that Steven's 8 year trial period is over and that is 4 more than most HC's get. He's had his a strong roster, he's had veteran stars, they were the seasonal favorites, they were 1st seeds and he's failed to deliver. But more importantly it's about how they came up short; twice losing as favorites to Bucks and Heat, once blowing a 2-0 ECF lead to Ty Lue, then the year prior swept and outcoached by David Blatt.

Stevens is simply one of those big name coaches that continually gets a pass for being mediocre. Lots of reg season hype that silences in the post season.
3 conference finals without having a to 10 player is not mediocre. Your judgement is ridiculous. They didn't just get beat by Blatt and Lue they got beat by Lebron James, the guy you endlessly stan.

[scuzzy]

3 conference finals without having a to 10 player is not mediocre. .

3 conference finals Stevens lost. Yes

They're not handing Semi Conference trophies. How many of those wins came against another Top 10 player? Heat didn't have a Top 10 player

Irving, Tatum, Horford, Brown, Hayward, Rozier, Morris was a solid rotation and Stevens got backdoor swept by Giannis/Middleton 1-2 punch.

[Mask the Embiid]

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[Wally450]

3 conference finals Stevens lost. Yes

Irving, Tatum, Horford, Brown, Hayward, Rozier, Morris was a solid rotation and Stevens got backdoor swept by Giannis/Middleton 1-2 punch.

On paper, yes that's a talented team, but it didn't work out on the court. Irving was an absolute headcase, Tatum had gotten shot happy, Brown never knew what option he was on a given night, Horford was okay, Hayward was hit or miss with his constant injuries. Rozier was shot jacking because supposedly he sacrificed the most when Kyrie came back, and I personally liked Morris. He played with grit.

The Bucks were the better team that season. Could the Celtics have won? Yes, but the locker room drama was too much to overcome.

[Real Men Wear Green]

3 conference finals Stevens lost. YesAnd that is still 3 conference finals. If losing the conference finals means a team is mediocre then 28 out of 30 teams are mediocre. If you are going to take a standard like that then your words mean nothing.


They're not handing Semi Conference trophies. How many of those wins came against another Top 10 player? Heat didn't have a Top 10 playerJimmy Butler played elite basketball in the playoffs. You keep on with this finals-or-bust mentality that makes no sense. There is no coach that would not get fired at some point by such a standard. 28 coaches aren't going to get fired every year.


Ikrving, Tatum, Horford, Brown, Hayward, Rozier, Morris was a solid rotation and Stevens got backdoor swept by Giannis/Middleton 1-2 punch.
And this year that did go badly they still won a round and the team that beat them featured a player that won the next two MVP awards.

[Derka]

My patience is wearing thing with Danny Ainge far more than it is with Brad Stevens. Danny builds these teams.

[Airupthere]

Lol at Celtics fans being just fine with the current situation.

[Axe]

On paper, yes that's a talented team, but it didn't work out on the court. Irving was an absolute headcase, Tatum had gotten shot happy, Brown never knew what option he was on a given night, Horford was okay, Hayward was hit or miss with his constant injuries. Rozier was shot jacking because supposedly he sacrificed the most when Kyrie came back, and I personally liked Morris. He played with grit.

The Bucks were the better team that season. Could the Celtics have won? Yes, but the locker room drama was too much to overcome.
Yup, bucks were better even if you used to say that giannis hasn't done anything significant at all.

[AirBonner]

Brad Stevens wtf is he doing lol

[Airupthere]

Brad Stevens wtf is he doing lol

I dont think ainge’s message will sit well with the players.

[ZionDunks]

And no, Tatum isn't one yet. Definitely has the potential to develop into one. Without a superstar the ceiling of your team can only be so high and for the most part Brad has generally had them near the ceiling of a team without a superstar.

Tatum isn’t a superstar.

I assume you limit superstar to 1 to 5 guys? Not all of the teams that have them win either.

Poor roster. Stevens is an average coach. If he had any real success he would have moved on already on his own. He’s done there

[ZionDunks]

I dont think ainge’s message will sit well with the players.

He’s got to make a move and do it now

[fourkicks44]

Steven's clearly out coached the Pacers coach tonight.

Pacers coach is ass tho. I have no Idea why the fired Macmillan for this clown.

[Wally450]

Steven's clearly out coached the Pacers coach tonight.

Pacers coach is ass tho. I have no Idea why the fired Macmillan for this clown.

Shhh. The narrative is Brad can't coach.

[ZionDunks]

Big win tonight.

Let’s see needle dick stack them now, and not hit .500 again!