View Full Version : What was the hardest chip to win for LeBron
Im so nba'd out
02-06-2021, 11:45 PM
Beating 3 MVPs on the same team + coming off a lockout
Beating 4 Hall of famers on the same team
Beating the greatest team of all time?
Winning a chip in solitary confinement with no fans to give him energy?
SouBeachTalents
02-07-2021, 12:07 AM
I'd rank them
2016
2012
2013
2020
If he wins this year going through the Clips & Nets at 36 that'd become #1
light
02-07-2021, 12:09 AM
That San Antonio dynasty was loaded with hall of famers and a GOAT coach.
But 2016 was special. They were written off. It has to be that one.
8Ball
02-07-2021, 12:10 AM
Beating the greatest regular season time of all time.
73 wins.
kawhileonard2
02-07-2021, 12:12 AM
None of those were hard. Kawhi's titles were harder. He had to beat a team with an arguable top 3 player all time and 3 other hall of famers and then the Warriors who actually had KD and Steph. Lebron only got one game off of them.
3ball
02-07-2021, 12:15 AM
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2013 Finals
the Heat supporting cast saved Lebron twice - they avoided an 0-3 deficit while Lebron averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games (save #1)... And his 23 on 43% was insufficient thru 6 games, so Ray Allen had to force Game 7 (save #2).. Lebron was a net negative for the series.
This was his worst winning Finals.. he didn't deserve to win and his teammates saved him
Btw, lebron had his own super-teams - the league was shut out because he stacked the deck
kawhileonard2
02-07-2021, 12:18 AM
In 2012 none of them won league mvp yet. Otherwise we might as well say why didn't Lebron win in 2010 with Shaq who won 3x finals MVP and a league mvp and scoring title or with Ben Wallace is 2009 who won 4x DPOY.
Airupthere
02-07-2021, 12:56 AM
What a bunch of lies on the choices. As fake as lebron’s flopping and his hair he is barely hanging on to.
dankok8
02-07-2021, 02:10 AM
2012... With Bosh's injury the Heat were very thin and he still got them through a lot of the Indy and Boston series and then beat a good OKC team in the Final. Overall it was the toughest run.
2016 Warriors gets the most hype but Cavs should have never been down 1-3 to those Warriors to begin with. If Lebron played his best from Game 1 Cavs probably win in 5 games. That Warriors team played nothing like a 73-win team in the playoffs with Curry even missing most of the first two rounds of the playoffs and playing at less than 100%. Also the Cavs' road in the East was a joke that year. Narrative in this case overrides reality.
2013 and 2020 they were heavy favorites in all the series and in 2020 also missed out on playing their toughest opponents.
I'd rank them:
2012
2016
2013
2020
Indian guy
02-07-2021, 02:19 AM
2012 is #1 by a pretty decent margin.
- Trailed in 3 consecutive series after the 1st round
- Bosh got hurt in the 2nd round and missed 9 consecutive games. They had no size outside of him, really.
- LeBron was still ring-less and there was unprecedented pressure on him to win. You can only imagine the media hysteria during the playoffs when Miami kept trailing.
2013 - Complete emotional rollercoaster again. Trailed in 3 consecutive series' after the first round. Played 2 Game 7's. Wade was injured and struggled the entire playoffs. It was a crazy run.
2016 - Obviously, ridiculous Finals comeback. But EC was a cakewalk.
2020 - Looks 'easy' in hindsight but they did trail in both of the 1st 2 rounds. And all their WC opponents were supposed to be their kryptonite. But once the team settled down they played at a very high level the entire postseason. Definitely his most consistent playoff team.
Akeem34TheDream
02-07-2021, 05:23 AM
I'd rank them
2016
2012
2013
2020
If he wins this year going through the Clips & Nets at 36 that'd become #1
I hope we see a Clippers Lakers matchup, that would be great. Nets vs anyone is a must watch tbh.
TheCorporation
02-07-2021, 11:27 AM
I'll do a quick recap reminder about his four GOAT level rings:
2012
LBJ became only the second player in NBA history to average 30-10-5 on 50% shooting for an entire playoff run en route to a Finals MVP. He also trailed in three consecutive playoff series after the 1st round. (Pacers, Celtics, Thunder) and missed Bosh for half the playoffs, which was Miaimi's only size at the time. Joel mf Anthony was their starting center at 6'9 and that man cannot shoot.
LeBron also dismantled the three-headed OKC monster, three MVP, three scoring champion trio of Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden. Not to mention Defensive Player of the Year runner-up Serge Ibaka. If LeBron doesn't go nuclear and the Thunder win in 2012, they might have kept the band together instead of Lebron forcing them to blow it up.
2013
LBJ defeated the #6, #1 and #3 defense teams in back-to-back-to-back fashion while capping off the greatest game 7 Finals performance in NBA history. It was the highest game score for any game 7 in Finals history.
All the while beating who? The great Dynasty Spurs with Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard and Hall of Fame coach Gregory Popovich. Also, he did this while dragging the all-time top 5 worst ever #2 scoring option in playoff history (Wade scored 15.9 ppg for the entire playoffs).
2016
I don't even need to say anything here. This ring stands alone as the GOAT achievement. I'll simply leave you with a few pictures:
https://i.postimg.cc/SRGWj1Sc/Crazy-Dream.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zGFqRRpx/Record_Game_Finals.png
https://i.postimg.cc/xdmq0qs2/20190531-142817.jpg
2020
This one took the most mental toughness. Grit. LeBron has it. Most don't. There's a reason why the two teams that made the Finals had LeBron and Butler on them. That 2020 chip took true mental toughness beyond what players expected. There is a reason why mentally weak players failed in 2020 as well. The 2020 chip was the black top, prison-rules chip. And to top it off, Lebron led the league in passing as well? There are only a small handful of players skilled enough to win both a Scoring and Assist title.
Good luck to anyone who thinks they are even close to any of these, but clearly LeBron James is the greatest champion in basketball sports history and no one is close to his achievements.
https://i.postimg.cc/hGT05PYk/What-Does-Bless-Up-Mean.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/G2WcqtRS/Bron_Wild_4_this.png
8Ball
02-07-2021, 12:39 PM
LeBron breaking up 2012 OKC 3 headed monster was probably one of the craziest NBA altering events. Like Durant joining Warriors, but Durant was only there for 3 years.
If OKC wins that year, that's 3 MVP's on one team all playing elite level basketball for nearly 10 more years.
OKC probably left 3-4 championships on the table by trading Harden away. Harden was traded away because LeBron put a beatdown on that team.
Unbelievable.
3ball
02-07-2021, 12:51 PM
Horrible perceptions itt
3ball
02-07-2021, 12:54 PM
.:facepalm:
3ball
02-07-2021, 12:55 PM
Lebron had big 3 super-teams in 12', 13', and 16', so he should've won 70 and never needed 7 games
In 2020, lebron was statistical "pippen" to AD
8Ball
02-07-2021, 12:55 PM
Jordan's hardest championship opponent is as difficult as LeBron's easiest.
LeBron defeated a team greater than the 72 win Bulls.
3ball
02-07-2021, 12:56 PM
Jordan's hardest championship is as difficult as LeBron's easiest.
Jordan never had a big 3 or the playoff scoring champ teammate
so no
8Ball
02-07-2021, 12:58 PM
Jordan played against garbage finals opponents with 55 win calibre teams without Jordan.
Like getting the 2018 or 2020 Raptors and adding Jordan and playing the 2020 Heat 6 finals in a row.
8Ball
02-07-2021, 01:00 PM
3 MVPs in their prime
Spurs Dynasty
Warriors Dynasty
Is greater than anything Jordan faced.
zeerghit
02-07-2021, 01:00 PM
Jordan never had a big 3 or the playoff scoring champ teammate
so no
nba expansion, nba expansion, taking rest, nba expansion.. nice titles
3ball
02-07-2021, 01:12 PM
Jordan played against garbage finals opponents with 55 win calibre teams without Jordan.
Like getting the 2018 or 2020 Raptors and adding Jordan and playing the 2020 Heat 6 finals in a row.
Lebron leaves teams when everyone's prime is finished (15', 19'), so we don't know how his teams fare without him.. or he leaves along with half the team (11')
Furthermore, 3-peating requires great quality basketball.. Lebron never 3-peated, so he never developed a brand of basketball that could win 55 without him.
Heck, the bulls won 55 with Jordan in 1990 - so they developed the brand over the years to 55-win capability without him
Ultimately, the triangle is a 55-win offense if learned to perfection, but only MJ or his clone (kobe) could win rings with it
Finally, Lebron had teammates that significantly out-produced pippen for all his rings except 2013... So lebron's toughest ring (2013) was easier than Jordan's easiest (1996)
Bronbron23
02-07-2021, 05:12 PM
One of the 6 that he lost. Anyone pick one.
Shooter
02-09-2021, 12:06 AM
I'll do a quick recap reminder about his four GOAT level rings:
2012
LBJ became only the second player in NBA history to average 30-10-5 on 50% shooting for an entire playoff run en route to a Finals MVP. He also trailed in three consecutive playoff series after the 1st round. (Pacers, Celtics, Thunder) and missed Bosh for half the playoffs, which was Miaimi's only size at the time. Joel mf Anthony was their starting center at 6'9 and that man cannot shoot.
LeBron also dismantled the three-headed OKC monster, three MVP, three scoring champion trio of Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden. Not to mention Defensive Player of the Year runner-up Serge Ibaka. If LeBron doesn't go nuclear and the Thunder win in 2012, they might have kept the band together instead of Lebron forcing them to blow it up.
2013
LBJ defeated the #6, #1 and #3 defense teams in back-to-back-to-back fashion while capping off the greatest game 7 Finals performance in NBA history. It was the highest game score for any game 7 in Finals history.
All the while beating who? The great Dynasty Spurs with Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard and Hall of Fame coach Gregory Popovich. Also, he did this while dragging the all-time top 5 worst ever #2 scoring option in playoff history (Wade scored 15.9 ppg for the entire playoffs).
2016
I don't even need to say anything here. This ring stands alone as the GOAT achievement. I'll simply leave you with a few pictures:
https://i.postimg.cc/SRGWj1Sc/Crazy-Dream.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zGFqRRpx/Record_Game_Finals.png
https://i.postimg.cc/xdmq0qs2/20190531-142817.jpg
2020
This one took the most mental toughness. Grit. LeBron has it. Most don't. There's a reason why the two teams that made the Finals had LeBron and Butler on them. That 2020 chip took true mental toughness beyond what players expected. There is a reason why mentally weak players failed in 2020 as well. The 2020 chip was the black top, prison-rules chip. And to top it off, Lebron led the league in passing as well? There are only a small handful of players skilled enough to win both a Scoring and Assist title.
Good luck to anyone who thinks they are even close to any of these, but clearly LeBron James is the greatest champion in basketball sports history and no one is close to his achievements.
https://i.postimg.cc/hGT05PYk/What-Does-Bless-Up-Mean.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/G2WcqtRS/Bron_Wild_4_this.png
MJ stains in shambles begging for #2 best after LeBron but Kareem won't let him in this easy.
3ball
02-09-2021, 07:29 AM
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And1AllDay
02-09-2021, 10:35 AM
I'll do a quick recap reminder about his four GOAT level rings:
2012
LBJ became only the second player in NBA history to average 30-10-5 on 50% shooting for an entire playoff run en route to a Finals MVP. He also trailed in three consecutive playoff series after the 1st round. (Pacers, Celtics, Thunder) and missed Bosh for half the playoffs, which was Miaimi's only size at the time. Joel mf Anthony was their starting center at 6'9 and that man cannot shoot.
LeBron also dismantled the three-headed OKC monster, three MVP, three scoring champion trio of Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden. Not to mention Defensive Player of the Year runner-up Serge Ibaka. If LeBron doesn't go nuclear and the Thunder win in 2012, they might have kept the band together instead of Lebron forcing them to blow it up.
2013
LBJ defeated the #6, #1 and #3 defense teams in back-to-back-to-back fashion while capping off the greatest game 7 Finals performance in NBA history. It was the highest game score for any game 7 in Finals history.
All the while beating who? The great Dynasty Spurs with Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard and Hall of Fame coach Gregory Popovich. Also, he did this while dragging the all-time top 5 worst ever #2 scoring option in playoff history (Wade scored 15.9 ppg for the entire playoffs).
2016
I don't even need to say anything here. This ring stands alone as the GOAT achievement. I'll simply leave you with a few pictures:
https://i.postimg.cc/SRGWj1Sc/Crazy-Dream.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zGFqRRpx/Record_Game_Finals.png
https://i.postimg.cc/xdmq0qs2/20190531-142817.jpg
2020
This one took the most mental toughness. Grit. LeBron has it. Most don't. There's a reason why the two teams that made the Finals had LeBron and Butler on them. That 2020 chip took true mental toughness beyond what players expected. There is a reason why mentally weak players failed in 2020 as well. The 2020 chip was the black top, prison-rules chip. And to top it off, Lebron led the league in passing as well? There are only a small handful of players skilled enough to win both a Scoring and Assist title.
Good luck to anyone who thinks they are even close to any of these, but clearly LeBron James is the greatest champion in basketball sports history and no one is close to his achievements.
https://i.postimg.cc/hGT05PYk/What-Does-Bless-Up-Mean.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/G2WcqtRS/Bron_Wild_4_this.png
epic post
k0kakw0rld
02-09-2021, 10:43 AM
OKC did not have 3 MVPs in 2012 stop capping. That's why it's hard to be a LeBron fan here. Y'all are always exaggerating stuff
LAmbruh
02-09-2021, 10:53 AM
OKC did not have 3 MVPs in 2012 stop capping. That's why it's hard to be a LeBron fan here. Y'all are always exaggerating stuff
no cap
Manny98
02-09-2021, 10:54 AM
LeBron had to go up against 3+ HOF in virtually every single finals whilst Jordan got to face teams with only 1 legitimate star (92 Blazers)
LeBrons easiest ring was harder than Jordans hardest
https://i.postimg.cc/nzjN26wc/121824366-835522747193801-2083893423867446940-n.jpg
Bronbron23
02-09-2021, 03:09 PM
OKC did not have 3 MVPs in 2012 stop capping. That's why it's hard to be a LeBron fan here. Y'all are always exaggerating stuff
Yup that's my problem with these dudes. It be like saying bron lost with mvp shaq. So much trolling on this shit.
Jordan played against garbage finals opponents with 55 win calibre teams without Jordan.
Like getting the 2018 or 2020 Raptors and adding Jordan and playing the 2020 Heat 6 finals in a row.
The 2020 heat are trash? Rofl
OKC did not have 3 MVPs in 2012 stop capping. That's why it's hard to be a LeBron fan here. Y'all are always exaggerating stuff
Yep, there were no mvps in that team but durant still made it to the finals anyway.
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