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GOBB

02-07-2021, 09:55 AM

Get rid of Doug Pederson but keep the guy who built this talentless team name Howie Roseman. You don’t give Eric B an interview but hire a “who?” HC who is most likely a yes man for Howie. Only to turn around and trade Wentz when we all thought the reason he wanted out was because of...Doug. I’m not at all against trading Wentz. But if it’s for the rumored package of Bears first, Nick Foles and Tarik Cohen? Jesus.

I have no trust we hit on our picks which is crucial. We need at least 2 all pro players out of our first 3 picks. No exceptions. Nick Foles? Yikes.

tpols

02-07-2021, 12:37 PM

Nick Foles is the man and deserves a statue outside of Lincoln Financial. The guy outdueled Tom Brady on the biggest stage and brought us our only championship.

GOBB

02-07-2021, 02:10 PM

Nick Foles is the man and deserves a statue outside of Lincoln Financial. The guy outdueled Tom Brady on the biggest stage and brought us our only championship.

Us? Foh.

And he does have a statue.

tpols

02-07-2021, 02:32 PM

Us? Foh.

And he does have a statue.

I've been an eagles fan since the days of andy reid, jim johnson, brian dawkins, trotter, mcnabb, westbrook, and troy vincent. McNabb got owned by Brady. Foles went off.

GOBB

02-07-2021, 02:48 PM

I've been an eagles fan since the days of andy reid, jim johnson, brian dawkins, trotter, mcnabb, westbrook, and troy vincent. McNabb got owned by Brady. Foles went off.

And yet you didn’t know foles already has a statue? Solid.

Doomsday Dallas

02-07-2021, 05:37 PM

Well I didn't know that... good looking statue.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmcN1TeXoAET6rq.jpg

Doomsday Dallas

03-05-2021, 07:19 PM

What do the Eagles do with the 6th pick?

What do you guys think?

GOBB

03-06-2021, 08:23 AM

What do the Eagles do with the 6th pick?

What do you guys think?

Chase, Smith, Surtain or Pitts is who I would like at 6.

What eagles do? Probably trade back or take a player no one expects. I have zero confidence in Howie drafting despite being in position to draft a stud in rd 1 (and 2). We need a home run and triple with these 2 at bats

Doomsday Dallas

03-09-2021, 09:37 PM

Chase, Smith, Surtain or Pitts is who I would like at 6.

What eagles do? Probably trade back or take a player no one expects. I have zero confidence in Howie drafting despite being in position to draft a stud in rd 1 (and 2). We need a home run and triple with these 2 at bats

I saw one mock with the Eagles taking LB Micah Parsons.

This is the type of player the Cowboys need, but may be too high for the Eagles at #6.

Not sure if he'd slip past DET, CAR, and DEN.

I'm hoping Surtain falls to 10, but if Parsons is there we should take him.

I want a player that will make Jaylon Smith and Vander Esch play better and I think Micah Parson would make that happen.

The Secondary and Defensive Line would be weak spots but Parsons would be a tackling machine who could also get to the QB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEt4Vgoxl44

https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/746320/746320-1596843719866-a2e7e916549e4.jpg

Doomsday Dallas

03-09-2021, 10:06 PM

“Micah Parsons is one of the best pure athletes in this draft class, and the Cowboys have plenty of needs on defense, though edge rusher or cornerback could also be a consideration here,” Wilson wrote in his mock draft.

Parsons sparked rumors of his preferred NFL destination when he posted a photograph of him standing in AT&T Stadium. He also noted that he hopes to “stay in the blue and white” on his personal Twitter account.

Last season, Penn State played in the Cotton Bowl against the Memphis Tigers. Parsons had a great game with seven tackles and two sacks in the Nittany Lions victory. He finished the 2019 campaign with 109 tackles, five sacks, four forced fumbles and one fumble recovery.

NFL evaluators have been impressed with Parsons for a while. He is likely to be the first linebacker taken in the 2021 NFL Draft. The Cowboys do have a potential need to upgrade on the defensive side of the football. Parsons could slide in next to Jaylon Smith and Leighton Vander Esch if selected.

NFL Network draft insider Daniel Jeremiah even sees Parsons having similar characteristics as Smith. He noted that Parsons good downhill pursuit and is strong in pass coverage against tight ends and running backs.

There is a chance the Cowboys could pair both Smith and Parsons for the foreseeable future if the team goes in that direction in the draft.

“Parsons has a similar build and playing style,” Jeremiah said. “They are both so explosive and aggressive. It's hard to find players with this type of agility and athleticism without sacrificing the size. If Parsons can stay healthy and continue to develop, he will emerge as one of the top five players in the country.”

Parsons was missed by Penn State this season. His skills are hard to replace and the Nittany Lions struggled defensively at times. Penn State finished 4-5 this season and will head into the 2021 season with a four-game winning streak.

While he missed the season, Parsons is excited about his future prospects. He has a chance to contribute early and be a difference-maker for an NFL team.

.... yea, this who the Cowboys need to target.

Defensive Line and Secondary would have to be addressed in the later rounds.

GOBB

03-09-2021, 10:16 PM

Parsons is dope. If not for eagles history I’d have added him above Pitts on want list. But I can’t recall us ever drafting a LB first rd let alone so high. You guys might be able to get him. Every draft guys we think would go high end up falling for whatever reason. Toss in the reach picks. The QBs and LT are the only locks for their projections imo.

Dallas definitely needs defense. Parsons would be legit there

Doomsday Dallas

03-09-2021, 10:23 PM

https://insidethestar.com/dallas-cowboys-cb-patrick-surtain-jr-continue-to-be-linked/

2 weeks ago...

At this point in the 2021 draft process, there seems to be four primary schools of thought nationally for the Dallas Cowboys’ first round pick.

One, they take Penn State linebacker Micah Parsons. This…well this isn’t my favorite. We can leave it at that for now.

Two, they shock the world and draft a quarterback, maybe like Alabama’s Mac Jones. Once again, not the biggest fan. They are better off just signing the quarterback they already have in Dak Prescott.

Three, maybe they take an offensive lineman. After all we saw how depleted they were upfront last year, and Tyron Smith can be penciled in to miss at least three games almost every season.

The fourth and most popular move, however, is to take the top cornerback in the draft class. Either Alabama’s Patrick Surtain Jr. or Virginia Tech’s Caleb Farley.

ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. went with Patrick Surtain Jr. for the Cowboys in his latest mock draft, and if things fall like Kiper sees them, Dallas will have their pick of every defensive player in the class tenth overall.

Surtain Jr. or Micah Parsons.

either player works for me.

Not sure where the TE from Florida Kyle Pitts will land, but seen some mocks w/ the Eagles taking him.

Still got Ertz and Goedert on the roster for 2021, so I personally don't see it happening.

Also, I think he'd be a better fit with the Bengals and Joe Burrow... But most think Bengals are taking Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon.

Falcons shouldn't be in the market for a QB at #4, so they could potentially trade down.

GOBB

03-09-2021, 10:25 PM

https://insidethestar.com/dallas-cowboys-cb-patrick-surtain-jr-continue-to-be-linked/

2 weeks ago...

Surtain Jr. or Micah Parsons.

either player works for me.

Not sure where the TE from Florida Kyle Pitts will land, but seen some mocks w/ the Eagles taking him.

Still got Ertz and Goedert on the roster for 2021, so I personally don't see it happening.

Also, I think he'd be a better fit with the Bengals and Joe Burrow... But most think Bengals are taking Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon.

Falcons shouldn't be in the market for a QB at #4, so they could potentially trade down.

There’s been rumors about eagles seeing what kind of value they could get for Ertz. Couple teams are interested

Doomsday Dallas

03-12-2021, 08:21 PM

Chase, Smith, Surtain or Pitts is who I would like at 6.

I'm gonna go ahead and predict Devonta goes to Miami at #3 and gets reunited with Tua.

Falcons may consider Micah Parsons, or could trade down - either way it won't be Chase going #4

Could Chase go to the Bengals at #5 and get reunited with Burrow? I suppose that's possible.

1. Trevor
2. Jets - ???
3. D.Smith
4. Parsons, Sewell or trade down with team needing QB
5. Chase, Pitts, Sewell

So idk, I think Chase or Pitts is a strong possibility for the Eagles... 6th pick would probably be a little too high Surtain.

Jets should probably trade down and give Darnold another year... that team is a mess right now, but they got some draft ammo to work with.

GOBB

03-13-2021, 12:57 PM

I'm gonna go ahead and predict Devonta goes to Miami at #3 and gets reunited with Tua.

Falcons may consider Micah Parsons, or could trade down - either way it won't be Chase going #4

Could Chase go to the Bengals at #5 and get reunited with Burrow? I suppose that's possible.

1. Trevor
2. Jets - ???
3. D.Smith
4. Parsons, Sewell or trade down with team needing QB
5. Chase, Pitts, Sewell

So idk, I think Chase or Pitts is a strong possibility for the Eagles... 6th pick would probably be a little too high Surtain.

Jets should probably trade down and give Darnold another year... that team is a mess right now, but they got some draft ammo to work with.

If your bengals you have to take Sewell to protect your major investment in Burrow. Sewell is one of those all pro lineman that’ll be at LT for a decade. They take Chase and Sewell is there for us that would be Xmas. I don’t see it.

Jets may be locked in on that kid from BYU. Heard his workout was great.

clipps

03-14-2021, 04:03 PM

Eagles will always be shit.

Doomsday Dallas

03-19-2021, 04:42 PM

https://www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierlein-2021-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-how-does-the-first-wave-of-free-agency-im

gotta updated mock draft... some character concerns have Micha Parson dropping to 29

Cowboys upgrade O-Line

Slater is a potential "five for one" lineman who can play any position up front. The Cowboys were at their best when the offensive line was strong, and this Northwestern product helps strengthen that unit.

Washington drafting the Tulsa LB Zaven Collins... that defense could be super elite next year.

still think they should go with the first choice of RB (Najee Harris or Travis Etienne)

bladefd

03-19-2021, 06:54 PM

https://www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierlein-2021-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-how-does-the-first-wave-of-free-agency-im

gotta updated mock draft... some character concerns have Micha Parson dropping to 29

Cowboys upgrade O-Line

Washington drafting the Tulsa LB Zaven Collins... that defense could be super elite next year.

still think they should go with the first choice of RB (Najee Harris or Travis Etienne)

Horrendous mock draft. Colts drafting the one position they don't need and passing over what we desperately need :facepalm

I don't take any mock draft seriously after top 3-4 picks. It's never accurate after those very early picks regardless of how much inside information they claim to have. No legit team would ever leak their draft board data to a media member. There is too much money, too many jobs, too much at stake for another team to get wind of your board.

Doomsday Dallas

03-26-2021, 04:43 PM

https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-acquire-no-6-pick-in-2021-draft-from-eagles-in-exchange-for-no-12-plus-

Miami Dolphins general manager Chris Grier is moving and shaking.

After trading the No. 3 overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft to the San Francisco 49ers, the Dolphins leaped back into the top 10 of the draft with another Friday blockbuster trade with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Miami acquired the No. 6 overall pick and 156th selection (fifth round) from the Eagles in exchange for the No. 12 pick (acquired in the trade with the Niners), No. 123 (fourth round) and a 2022 first-round pick, Philadelphia announced.

The swap came after the Dolphins shipped the third pick to San Francisco in exchange for the 12th selection in 2021, a third-rounder in 2022 and first-round picks in 2022 and 2023, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per a source informed of the situation.

The trade doublet amounts to a three-team swap when it's all said and done. The 49ers get the No. 3 pick this year. The Dolphins end up with the No. 6 overall pick in 2021, a 2023 first-rounder, a 2022 third and a fifth-rounder this year. The Eagles get the 12th pick, a fourth-round selection this season and a 2022 first-rounder.

NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported the Eagles' first-rounder acquired in 2022 would be Miami's, not the one the Dolphins received from San Francisco.

Sitting with the third pick thanks to the Laremy Tunsil trade with Houston, the Dolphins did well to stay inside the top 10 while picking up future assets. Dropping just three spots, Miami keeps itself positioned to take a high-caliber Day 1 starter. With a run on QBs now a virtual certainty, the Dolphins could land a player like Ja'Marr Chase, Kyle Pitts, Jaylen Waddle or potentially one of the top offensive lineman if they slide past the Bengals and Falcons.

Doomsday Dallas

03-26-2021, 04:44 PM

What eagles do? Probably trade back or take a player no one expects.

You were right about trading back.

I think it's a good trade for the Eagles though.

~primetime~

03-26-2021, 04:51 PM

so...the Eagles moved from #6 to #12 and picked up the Phins 1st rd pick in 2022?

fck...that's robbery

I don't even know yet who the Phins are lusting over drafting at #6 but whoever it is isn't worth that

Doomsday Dallas

03-26-2021, 04:53 PM

The swap came after the Dolphins shipped the third pick to San Francisco in exchange for the 12th selection in 2021, a third-rounder in 2022 and first-round picks in 2022 and 2023, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per a source informed of the situation.

wait a sec... is that right?

Holy $hit the 49ers got robbed.

that is a horrendous trade for SF... Just terrible.

~primetime~

03-26-2021, 04:56 PM

wait a sec... is that right?

Holy $hit the 49ers got robbed.

that is a horrendous trade for SF... Just terrible.

yeah that's like nearing Herschel Walker trade levels...really bad...that's the kind of trade that could turn things around for the Dolphins, problem is they followed it up with making a retarded trade to Philly

Doomsday Dallas

03-26-2021, 05:02 PM

yeah that's like nearing Herschel Walker trade levels...really bad...that's the kind of trade that could turn things around for the Dolphins, problem is they followed it up with making a retarded trade to Philly

There are some good players that could fall to #6 that won't be there at #12... Pitts, Sewell, top level WR

bad trade yes,... but not even close as bad as SF trading 3 first rounders and a 3rd to move up 9 spots.

Miami now has #6 and #18 this year cause of the Tunsil trade

SF doesn't even get to take the QB of their choice at #3... they don't know what the Jets are doing at #2

Carbine

03-26-2021, 06:54 PM

Dolphins are essentially guaranteed one of Pitts or Chase. Or Sewell of Cincy prefers Pitts over Sewell.

It's very likely four QBs go off the board in the first four picks. I think the Dolphins know this, so they still get the pick of the litter for offensive players.

They moved back three spots and got a future first and still get the player they wanted at #3.

I'd have loved to see the Dolphins keep the picks and have two first rounders in the next three drafts but I understand how good of a prospect Pitts, Chase and Sewell are this year. They are truly elite level prospects.

GOBB

03-27-2021, 08:06 AM

Eagles actually tried to trade up for the 3rd overall pick to snag a QB. Yikes. Then trade back and all but cancel any chance at Chase. I really hate this team.

Doomsday Dallas

03-27-2021, 12:31 PM

Eagles actually tried to trade up for the 3rd overall pick to snag a QB. Yikes. Then trade back and all but cancel any chance at Chase. I really hate this team.

I mean, let's be reality... Eagles are rebuilding.

In 2021 you get to root against the Dolphins and for all we know they could still be one of the bottom-10 teams in the league.

decent chance that the Eagles have two top-10 picks in the 2022 draft, and you guys will have some extra cap space to play with in FA for that off-season.

Not sure who you guys take at #12, but Parsons and DeVonta Smith could still be there for the taking. I don't think Surtain II will fall past Dallas though.

but yea,... you can officially say goodbye to Chase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlptyGrAVXk

Carbine

03-27-2021, 03:14 PM

Doomsday Dallas

03-27-2021, 03:24 PM

https://walterfootball.com/draft2021.php

11. New York Giants: DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama Alabama
The Giants signed Kenny Golladay, but will that really preclude them from picking Devonta Smith if he falls outside of the top 10? Think about what the Cowboys did last year. They selected CeeDee Lamb when he unexpectedly dropped to them. Their alternative was K'Lavon Chaisson. I'd say they made the right decision!

Smith is an excellent route runner with great hands and tremendous run-after-catch ability. He rightfully won the Heisman and then embarrassed Ohio State in the national championship.

12. Philadelphia Eagles: Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama Alabama

The Eagles won't get a blue-chip player unless one of the receivers falls to them. However, I think this is fine because there are so many holes on the roster that no one player could fix things. Getting an extra 2022 first-round pick is extremely important.

Now that quarterback is officially out of the picture - the Eagles were trying to trade up for Zach Wilson, but failed - they'll build around Jalen Hurts. Why not give him his former receiver? Philadelphia has an enormous need at the position, and Hurts is a big fan of Waddle. When asked to name an Alabama prospect whom he thinks will have the best career in the 2021 NFL Draft, Hurts' answer was Waddle.

Barkley, Golladay, and Devonta Smith could be dangerous in New York.

they have Rashawn Slater, OT/G/C, Northwestern going at #13 to the Chargers... but I think he'll be a top-10 pick.

Doomsday Dallas

03-27-2021, 03:34 PM

Still a bottom 10 team?

They are returning everyone important to what I thought was the best defense in the NFL last year until the last game when they gave up a fifty Burger. They also added a pro bowl ILB this off season.

They added perhaps the best deep threat in the NFL in Fuller to the offense.

They have enough money to swing another key pickup or two in free agency, plus the most draft capital in the NFL to infuse young talent to the existing core.

You never know in the NFL, but the odds are of they are relatively healthy they have one of the best rosters in the NFL and a good, maybe great coach.

That pick has a good chance to be in the 20s and a minor chance to be in the top 10. They should be a playoff team next year.

I just don't have much faith in Tua leading them beyond an 8-8 record.

I think that pick will be somewhere from 10-20... so if the injury bug hits Miami, they could very well be giving the Eagels a top-10 pick.

Do I think Miami is bottom 10 team? No, but things could easily work out that way knowing the NFL.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErOyVtTXEAY094p.jpg

GOBB

03-27-2021, 11:55 PM

I mean, let's be reality... Eagles are rebuilding.

In 2021 you get to root against the Dolphins and for all we know they could still be one of the bottom-10 teams in the league.

decent chance that the Eagles have two top-10 picks in the 2022 draft, and you guys will have some extra cap space to play with in FA for that off-season.

Not sure who you guys take at #12, but Parsons and DeVonta Smith could still be there for the taking. I don't think Surtain II will fall past Dallas though.

but yea,... you can officially say goodbye to Chase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlptyGrAVXk

I get that wet are rebuilding but you drop out of the top 10 to just outside of it. At 6 you are prime for an impact player. And you lessened them chances some getting cute to pick up an extra first next year. Regardless of where it falls. Just don’t like it. And while there still could be good prospects at 12? I simply do not trust Howie. So the stockpiling of first rd picks on paper is great for a team rebuilding around a young QB. But reality strikes when you realize Howie has drafted one pro bowl since trading up for Wentz. Who was the only pro bowler he selected.

We are rebuilding with a Gm who can’t rebuild

Doomsday Dallas

03-28-2021, 12:33 PM

GOBB

03-28-2021, 02:15 PM

I mean... Eagles still have a shot a Parsons, Surtain, and Slater... all of which are worthy at the #6 spot.

Waddle and DeVanta Smith would be decent pick ups.

not sure if I'd give up a future first rounder to replace those picks with a Pitts, Sewell, or Chase.

The fact we traded back? I don’t think we take any of the players you mentioned. Watch we go DL or OL. Granted the only player on OL that I would be onboard with is Sewell (if we still picked 6th). As you can see I have zero faith in the eagles GM that he takes one of the guys you said could still be there at 12.

Doomsday Dallas

03-28-2021, 02:38 PM

The fact we traded back? I don’t think we take any of the players you mentioned. Watch we go DL or OL. Granted the only player on OL that I would be onboard with is Sewell (if we still picked 6th). As you can see I have zero faith in the eagles GM that he takes one of the guys you said could still be there at 12.

But this Rashawn Slater kid is suppose to be a pass-blocking beast that you can plug in at any position on the O-line.

Many mocks have Dallas taking him at #10, and I've seen some mocks with Jets taking Sewell at #2, and Bengals taking Slater at #5.

If you can land Slater at #12... it's a successful draft.

Decent chance you guys end up with CB JayCee Horn, which I think most people now have ranked higher than Caleb Farley (injury concerns).

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fv7A9hos93s/maxresdefault.jpg

Doomsday Dallas

03-28-2021, 02:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAjnN_313Mc

GOBB

03-28-2021, 03:25 PM

Don’t know a lot about Slater. Seen him mocked in drafts though. I wouldn’t be mad at Horn pick. Seems he’s picking up a lot of steam. CB is definitely a big need especially across from Slay.

Doomsday Dallas

04-29-2021, 10:10 PM

We f*cked over the Giants....lol.... Good teamwork right there Philly.

great trade.

GOBB

04-30-2021, 07:44 AM

Yup that was a genius move.

GOBB

05-01-2021, 12:40 AM

See Howie just Howie. Day 2 wasn’t great at all. Ugh another injury prone OL. Yikes. I know he has talent but that high in 2nd rd for a guy with his medical history isn’t great. Reeks of Sidney Jones (first rd talent) all over again.

Charlie Sheen

05-01-2021, 10:58 AM

GOBB

05-01-2021, 12:25 PM

Feels like you're hating on the player because of the guy who picked him.

Left knee ACL tear
Ankle injury
Ankle injury
Right knee ACL tear

Eagles OL was a revolving door with starting units because of injuries. We turn around and draft a kid with this kind of medical history high in the 2nd round. Eagles can’t afford high risk high reward players.

Seems like I’m using the common sense god gave me and assessing the draft pick based on the medical history. Already acknowledged the talent. But taking a kid and hoping he stays healthy given his history? Sounds like someone who buys a car and hopes the engine is inside. Maybe it is maybe it’s not. Guess we find out when you try to pull off...

Charlie Sheen

05-01-2021, 12:44 PM

Left knee ACL tear
Ankle injury
Ankle injury
Right knee ACL tear

Eagles OL was a revolving door with starting units because of injuries. We turn around and draft a kid with this kind of medical history high in the 2nd round. Eagles can’t afford high risk high reward players.

Seems like I’m using the common sense god gave me and assessing the draft pick based on the medical history. Already acknowledged the talent. But taking a kid and hoping he stays healthy given his history? Sounds like someone who buys a car and hopes the engine is inside. Maybe it is maybe it’s not. Guess we find out when you try to pull off...

Bold is why I'm okay with the injury risk. He can play all across the interior line. Instead of shuffling the whole line around, ideally the Eagles could plug this kid in whenever they needed depth. I don't think he needs to start to have value even at a 2nd round price. Look at how the Titans used Dennis Kelly before making him a starter.

GOBB

05-01-2021, 01:23 PM

Bold is why I'm okay with the injury risk. He can play all across the interior line. Instead of shuffling the whole line around, ideally the Eagles could plug this kid in whenever they needed depth. I don't think he needs to start to have value even at a 2nd round price. Look at how the Titans used Dennis Kelly before making him a starter.

Well he’s not going to start day 1 unless Kelce retires, Brooks isn’t ready to go. He’s basically depth that is waiting to replace a current starter most likely the following season.

Meanwhile eagles could have drafted a day 1 starter at LB (Jeremiah Owusu) with the 2nd rd pick. Our starting LB core is in worse shape vs our OL.