2018 Celtics vs 1989 Cavs

[3ball]

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2018 Celtics.... team of rookies... 1 all-star.... #7 SRS.. underdog

1989 Cavs...... team of veterans.. 3 all-stars... #1 SRS.. favorite


Jordan had 2nd year Pippen (14/6/3), while Lebron had the best 2nd option in the conference and perennial all-star Kevin Love (18/9/3) - and they were defending conference champs

Ultimately, who cares about carry-jobs against bad teams - only carry-jobs against good teams matter (top 5 SRS) and lebron has none

[zeerghit]

anyone knows jordan record without pippen?

[3ball]

anyone knows jordan record without pippen?


Lebron similarly struggled during his first years in the East and West (lottery)

[8Ball]

anyone knows jordan record without pippen?

0-9

[zeerghit]

anyone??

[3ball]

0-9


That's Lebron's record with Wade/Bosh and Kyrie/Love

[dawsey6]

Since we're picking random rounds, how did he do in the ECSF against the 1-seed that year?

[8Ball]

anyone??

0-9 I said.

Did I get it right?

Can someone correct me if I am wrong?

3ball knows. I am sure he can confirm 0-9.

[zeerghit]

0-9 I said.

Did I get it right?

Can someone correct me if I am wrong?

3ball knows. I am sure he can confirm 0-9.

ok you got this one wrong lets try another one
anyone knows jordan record against his main rival Larry Bird?

[red1]

Pippen's bulls without mj = 55 wins


Jordan's main finals rival was karl malone :roll:

[red1]

lebron 2016 >>> all of mj's rings combined

[3ball]

lebron 2016 >>> all of mj's rings combined


It's impossible to lose when your 2nd option destroys their 1st option

So lebron gets knocked for needing 7 games - he only needed 7 because he wet the bed thru 4 (24 and 6 TO's)

You won't here any of this yet on TV but it's the truth.. lebron's 16' ring was very easy

[red1]

It's impossible to lose when your 2nd option destroys their 1st option

So lebron gets knocked for needing 7 games - he only needed 7 because he wet the bed thru 4 (24 and 6 TO's)

You won't here any of this yet on TV but it's the truth.. lebron's 16' ring was very easy

I knew you'd post that.

Kyrie wasnt an allstar that year if I use your twisted BS logic.


Lebron beat a 73-win team with zero allstars :roll:

[red1]

Jordan was ON the 70+ win team (pippen won 55 games without jordan)


Meanwhile lebron is the only player in NBA history who BEATS the 70+ win team


I win :)

[Wally450]

What a random thread lol.

[3ball]

What a random thread lol.


Not so random actually

Many people think the 18' run to the Finals was lebron's best "carry-job"

But it was against bad teams - who cares about carry-jobs against bad teams?..

Otoh, the 89' Cavs had 3 all-stars and the #1 SRS, so they were better than any team lebron beat in the East - yet MJ beat them as an underdog and low seed, with no help on either side of the ball (#11 team defense and 15 on 40% from Pippen)..

Otoh, lebron lost as the league favorite to Dwight's 1-star Magic, despite more help on both sides of the ball (#3 defense and 18 on 38% from Mo)

Ultimately, Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (no carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades of playing), whereas MJ did so 5 times (96' Finals.. 98' Finals.. 98' ECF.. 97' ECF.. 89' 1st Round)

[Hey Yo]

Mo shot 37%.

1,348th time I've busted you fudging the numbers.

[3ball]

Mo shot 37%.

1,348th time I've busted you fudging the numbers.


Mo averaged 3 more points than Pippen with about the same efficiency

So Jordan beat a better team than the 09' Magic with less help on offense and defense (bulls had #11 defense... Cavs had #3)

[Hey Yo]

Doesn't change the fact that you constantly get busted fudging the numbers.

[3ball]

Doesn't change the fact that you constantly get busted fudging the numbers.


Actually, Mo shot 37.5%, so I was right

[8Ball]

What a random thread lol.

It's a routine meltdown after waking up realizing Michael Jordan is #2 all time behind LeBron ever since Oct 11.

[3ball]

It's a routine meltdown after waking up realizing Michael Jordan is #2 all time behind LeBron ever since Oct 11.


#2 in what?


Rings? Nope

Offense?.. Nope

Defense?... Nope

Money?... Nope

[Akeem34TheDream]

I think Lebron beating Pistons in 07 is more impressive than him beating 2018 Celtics. And thats a much better comparison against the Cavs series. Both young in their careers at the time.

[Hey Yo]

Actually, Mo shot 37.5%, so I was right

37.1 was his FG%. Busted again, chico

[3ball]

37.1 was his FG%. Busted again, chico


Hmmm.. looks like you got me

Mo shot 37%, not 38%

And Pippen shot 40% but averaged 3 less points..

Ultimately, both shot 51% true shooting

[3ball]

I think Lebron beating Pistons in 07 is more impressive than him beating 2018 Celtics. And thats a much better comparison against the Cavs series. Both young in their careers at the time.


1-star teams were routinely winning the conference (Iverson, Dwight and Kidd)

And the 07' Pistons were trash:



2007 Cavs...'. #7 SRS.. 50 wins.. 2 seed
2007 DET...... #6 SRS.. 53 wins.. 1 seed

1989 Bulls.... #10 SRS.. 47 wins.. 6 seed
1989 Cavs...... #1 SRS.. 57 wins.. 3 seed


the 89' Cavs were better than any team Lebron beat in the East, and Jordan beat them with a low seed underdog

Ultimately, lebron has zero wins against top 5 SRS teams with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (no carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades of playing)