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Nike D'Antoni
02-07-2021, 11:08 PM
Will we see a player win a championship as the guy/MVP of team at age 43?

TheCorporation
02-07-2021, 11:09 PM
Will we have NBA player like Lebron dominate at age 36? (after 18 consecutive seasons)

Nike D'Antoni
02-07-2021, 11:14 PM
Will we have NBA player like Lebron dominate at age 36? (after 18 consecutive seasons)

very possible. But 43?

Bronbron23
02-07-2021, 11:22 PM
Who knows with the way sports have taken away the physicality to protect players. We probably will. Mahomes could be the guy.

FireDavidKahn
02-07-2021, 11:27 PM
very possible. But 43?

With the minutes and how long LeGOAT has accumulated he basically is 43.

Combined regular season + play off minutes played LeGOAT is #1 in history with 10,811 and #2 is Duncan 9370

StrongLurk
02-07-2021, 11:32 PM
Lol hell no.

Playing QB is one of the least physical positions in sports. NBA is way too much of a grind physically for someone to still be a superstar at that age.

FireDavidKahn
02-07-2021, 11:35 PM
Lol hell no.

Playing QB is one of the least physical positions in sports. NBA is way too much of a grind physically for someone to still be a superstar at that age.

I don't think you really understand how hard it is for any QB after 40. It's unheard to have done what Brady has after 40

Wally450
02-07-2021, 11:35 PM
With the minutes and how long LeGOAT has accumulated he basically is 43.

Combined regular season + play off minutes played LeGOAT is #1 in history with 10,811 and #2 is Duncan 9370

Pretty much. If you look at the minutes he's played and games played, he's essentially logged another 2 seasons, so he's like 38-39 in basketball years.

Hell, in football years Brady is pushing 46-47.

Thenameless
02-07-2021, 11:39 PM
Lol hell no.

Playing QB is one of the least physical positions in sports. NBA is way too much of a grind physically for someone to still be a superstar at that age.

This.

In the NBA. sometimes a guy is forced to guard someone that is a difficult match-up. Can you imagine the equivalent of Tom Brady having to guard Tyreke Hill?

Axe
02-07-2021, 11:44 PM
How do you think you can be the mvp/leading player at that age if your muscles have atrophied too much?

BurningHammer
02-07-2021, 11:49 PM
Lol hell no.

Playing QB is one of the least physical positions in sports. NBA is way too much of a grind physically for someone to still be a superstar at that age.

And NFL has changed rules so QBs are more well-protected, making QB shelf life even longer.

Walk on Water
02-07-2021, 11:54 PM
Lol hell no.

Playing QB is one of the least physical positions in sports. NBA is way too much of a grind physically for someone to still be a superstar at that age.


Baloney. Basketball is a much less physical sport than football.

Nike D'Antoni
02-08-2021, 12:08 AM
Nat Hickey
The oldest player ever to play in the NBA was Nat Hickey who played one game in the 1947–48 season when he was 45 years and 363 days old. Hickey, who was coaching the Providence Steamrollers at the time, decided to activate himself and played in a game for the Steamrollers.

light
02-08-2021, 12:23 AM
Probably not.

You can't dominate in basketball by standing still in a pocket.

light
02-08-2021, 12:24 AM
Baloney. Basketball is a much less physical sport than football.

Not for pocket quarterbacks. It is far less physical, especially from a cardio standpoint. Brady barely breaks a sweat in some games.

Walk on Water
02-08-2021, 12:54 AM
Not for pocket quarterbacks. It is far less physical, especially from a cardio standpoint. Brady barely breaks a sweat in some games.


Maybe because Brady is so good that it looks easy for him. How come Montana wasn't playing or winning at Brady's age? Do you know how messed up Montana's body is from playing QB?

SATAN
02-08-2021, 01:17 AM
No one is dominating the NBA at age 43.

kawhileonard2
02-08-2021, 01:25 AM
Can't have a guy with a losing record on the highest stage.

dankok8
02-08-2021, 03:02 AM
Modern athletes have way better longevity than past generations. Better training, better nutrition, better injury treatments, lesser minutes, sitting out games and getting hit less on the court all add up in a big way to lengthen careers. I wouldn't be that shocked to see the modern generation of NBA players dominate up until and maybe past age 40. We see it in all sports. Mid 30's used to be really old and now lots of guys still look in their primes.

Walk on Water
02-08-2021, 03:44 AM
Modern athletes have way better longevity than past generations. Better training, better nutrition, better injury treatments, lesser minutes, sitting out games and getting hit less on the court all add up in a big way to lengthen careers. I wouldn't be that shocked to see the modern generation of NBA players dominate up until and maybe past age 40. We see it in all sports. Mid 30's used to be really old and now lots of guys still look in their primes.


Lots of guys? There’s like maybe 2. Athletes like Stockton used to play in their 40s. Now you never see it. Vince maybe.

TheGoatest
02-08-2021, 04:51 AM
Lol hell no.

Playing QB is one of the least physical positions in sports. NBA is way too much of a grind physically for someone to still be a superstar at that age.

People will try to dispute this and say that you're oversimplifying and disrespecting how difficult it really is, etc.

But on a purely physical level, your statement is not wrong. If you have a good offensive line that will give you an extra second of time, and if you're mentally sharp (Brady definitely deserves all the praise as far as this aspect goes), then playing QB in the NFL is ridiculously easier than playing in the NBA on a purely physical level. If you constantly make the right decisions (again, Brady deserves all the praise for this), then as far as physicality goes, all you have to do is take 7-8 moderately quick steps, and you get a 30 second breather every 10 seconds because of the nature of how the game is played.

Your body ages way quicker than your mind. And the latter is more important for a QB.
Your legs age way quicker than your arms, and if you have a good offensive line like Brady does, the latter of those two is way more important for a QB.

In basketball, you need your body and your legs to work really well if you want to be on an elite level. There's no way around it, like there is for a QB.

Walk on Water
02-08-2021, 05:17 AM
People will try to dispute this and say that you're oversimplifying and disrespecting how difficult it really is, etc.

But on a purely physical level, your statement is not wrong. If you have a good offensive line that will give you an extra second of time, and if you're mentally sharp (Brady definitely deserves all the praise as far as this aspect goes), then playing QB in the NFL is ridiculously easier than playing in the NBA on a purely physical level. If you constantly make the right decisions (again, Brady deserves all the praise for this), then as far as physicality goes, all you have to do is take 7-8 moderately quick steps, and you get a 30 second breather every 10 seconds because of the nature of how the game is played.

Your body ages way quicker than your mind. And the latter is more important for a QB.
Your legs age way quicker than your arms, and if you have a good offensive line like Brady does, the latter of those two is way more important for a QB.

In basketball, you need your body and your legs to work really well if you want to be on an elite level. There's no way around it, like there is for a QB.


In basketball, you don't get tackled by some of the strongest humans on Earth. In today's basketball, there's much less defense and hardly any contact. Mostly just shooting drills. As for Lebron, he's built like a football player more than a basketball player and he's the one bulldozing others, so he has a blatant advantage. Quit making excuses.

TheGoatest
02-08-2021, 05:26 AM
In basketball, you don't get tackled by some of the strongest humans on Earth. In today's basketball, there's much less defense and hardly any contact. Mostly just shooting drills. As for Lebron, he's built like a football player more than a basketball player and he's the one bulldozing others, so he has a blatant advantage. Quit making excuses.

Man, STFU. Brady got sacked/tackled less than 1.5 times per game this season. And that's NOT the way running backs or receivers get tackled. QBs are protected to such an extent that all you're allowed is the bare minimum amount of contact to get them down. Anything above that, if you as much as fart in their direction, it's a penalty for your team.

Sulico
02-08-2021, 07:00 AM
Baloney. Basketball is a much less physical sport than football.

Do you honestly think that throwing egg-shaped thingy while standing still and then rest for couple of minutes before throwing it again is "less physical" than running for 8 minutes straight all while other people shoulder checking you?

Probably in your mind golf is the most physical sport in the world.

FireDavidKahn
02-08-2021, 07:19 AM
Modern athletes have way better longevity than past generations. Better training, better nutrition, better injury treatments, lesser minutes, sitting out games and getting hit less on the court all add up in a big way to lengthen careers. I wouldn't be that shocked to see the modern generation of NBA players dominate up until and maybe past age 40. We see it in all sports. Mid 30's used to be really old and now lots of guys still look in their primes.

LOL.

Love how people are now using LeGOAT and Tom as if this will be the norm. They are outliers, not the norm. You wont be seeing what they have done probably ever,.

Rysio
02-08-2021, 09:20 AM
LeBron could if he still gonna be motivated to win more rings.

tpols
02-08-2021, 09:55 AM
Maybe because Brady is so good that it looks easy for him. How come Montana wasn't playing or winning at Brady's age? Do you know how messed up Montana's body is from playing QB?

Montana didn't play in this soft ass era where every little touch is a foul. And of course when was the last time you saw Brady get hammered? Youre not even allowed to breathe on him without a roughing the passer call.

SATAN
02-08-2021, 09:57 AM
It's almost as if Walk on Water is a troll account or something

TheGoatest
02-08-2021, 10:22 AM
LeBron could if he still gonna be motivated to win more rings.

No basketball player is ever going to "dominate" past 40, because running will be necessary.

Meanwhile, you will see some of these current star quarterback still be dominant after the age of 40. You've already seen it with some other QBs who were very close to this age in the case of Drew Brees and Peyton Manning, and as long as they're smart and focus on throwing and not running, combined with the modern rules of protecting the QB, you're bound to see it again.

ArbitraryWater
02-08-2021, 11:02 AM
Brady isnt dominating anything.

clipps
02-08-2021, 11:06 AM
Lol hell no.

Playing QB is one of the least physical positions in sports. NBA is way too much of a grind physically for someone to still be a superstar at that age.

Holy shit you're an idiot.

tpols
02-08-2021, 11:09 AM
Holy shit you're an idiot.

He's 100% right. If Tom Brady played running back, his career would probably be like 8 games long before he got blown out. NBA players have to sprint up and down the court thousands of times. Brady takes 2-3 steps backwards and throws a ball. If you don't understand the wear on your legs from running that much you haven't played sports.

Rysio
02-08-2021, 11:13 AM
No basketball player is ever going to "dominate" past 40, because running will be necessary.

Meanwhile, you will see some of these current star quarterback still be dominant after the age of 40. You've already seen it with some other QBs who were very close to this age in the case of Drew Brees and Peyton Manning, and as long as they're smart and focus on throwing and not running, combined with the modern rules of protecting the QB, you're bound to see it again.

40 isn't even old it's the new 30 and soon it will be the new 20. It's all about how much you wanna play most retire cuz they either feel old or just sick of playing.

GOBB
02-08-2021, 11:24 AM
Brady isn't strong, fast nor agile. He plays a position that doesn't demand it to be successful. All you need is an OL to give you enough time to throw. In basketball Bron can not lose these 3 things and be as successful. If anything Bon being 36 and still the best player in the game. Still dominating. After hes been in the NBA since 18, played lots of minutes, games both reg/postseason, international competition is insane. People expected a decline because usually its what happens. Not with Bron. I see no major decline in his game that has me saying he can not continue until he is 40. At the level he is playing today, barring a significant injury of course.

As someone hinted too. Todays resources of keeping yourself in sports longer than the norm are evident. Its still a physical grind in the NBA so someone dominating at age 43 will be uncommon. If Bron were to do that I'll relinquish my argument he isnt the goat. In the NFL the QB position is one where you can play into your 40's given the league. The more mobile QBs may not (Lamar Jackson)

Note, to say what Tom brady did at 43 be classified as dominating? Is hilarious. Otherwise i need to know what that words means because we obviously have two different definitions.

Micku
02-08-2021, 12:40 PM
Modern athletes have way better longevity than past generations. Better training, better nutrition, better injury treatments, lesser minutes, sitting out games and getting hit less on the court all add up in a big way to lengthen careers. I wouldn't be that shocked to see the modern generation of NBA players dominate up until and maybe past age 40. We see it in all sports. Mid 30's used to be really old and now lots of guys still look in their primes.

Yeah. I read or saw that players longevity in the league increases every decade. As you said, it's getting better due to better trainer, nutrition, treatments and etc. The game isn't as physical anymore and it's always been less physical than the NFL, so it could happen. We've had all-star level players at the age of 40. Kareem was an all-star at 39 and 40. Karl Malone was an all star at 38, but he kept his lvl of play till he was 39. Probably till he was 40, but sacrifice to the team. I don't know if the player will still be the best in the league.

While it is less physical than the NFL, it doesn't have a offense/defense set with different players. The same offense player has to play defense. So, you constantly running back and forward. You could take breaks by standing in the corner or the prolong the "foul" but you still have to run around. But less contact than in the early 00s and below.

We just have to wait and see.

k0kakw0rld
02-08-2021, 02:34 PM
Power Forwards > Quarterbacks

Robert Horry > Brady

AlternativeAcc.
02-08-2021, 02:37 PM
He's 100% right. If Tom Brady played running back, his career would probably be like 8 games long before he got blown out. NBA players have to sprint up and down the court thousands of times. Brady takes 2-3 steps backwards and throws a ball. If you don't understand the wear on your legs from running that much you haven't played sports.

With a week off in between.

QBing is mentally draining more than anything else. These people are retarded.

Even a run first QB like Lamar takes less damage overall than a basketball player over the course of an 82 game season (+ playoffs)... especially someone like lebron

nineiron
02-08-2021, 03:11 PM
Will we see a player win a championship as the guy/MVP of team at age 43?

too bad Brady wasn't actually the mvp. it was the Buc's defence.

dankok8
02-08-2021, 06:21 PM
LOL.

Love how people are now using LeGOAT and Tom as if this will be the norm. They are outliers, not the norm. You wont be seeing what they have done probably ever,.

I don't know. Ibrahimovic is 39 years old scoring 14 goals in 11 matches in the Serie A. Cristiano has 16 goals in 17 matches at age 36. Federer won a singles Grand Slam at age 37. The two current best tennis players in the world are 33 and 34 years old. Ovechkin led the NHL in goals at age 35. Brady at 43 might be the biggest outlier but his position is also unique in that it doesn't require stamina which is what age affects most.

These kind of accomplishments were unthinkable 20 years ago but are commonplace now. Surely something about this era extends longevity. It's definitely more than outliers at this point. Heck even in the NBA now... KD is 33 in his 14th season coming off a really serious injury. He definitely looks like he's in his prime. Would I be shocked if he averaged 30 ppg in 5 years? Not really... I'd be impressed but not shocked to be honest.

It's A VC3!!!
02-08-2021, 07:49 PM
Brady is spectacular but let's remember that QB's only play one side of the game, offense. QB's sit and rest on defense, and this is highly important to keep in mind. NBA players have to play both sides of the game, offense and defense. This has tremendous wear and tear on an athletes body so we will never see a player play great basketball at the age of 43. Who would want to see that anyways?

tontoz
02-08-2021, 08:35 PM
No chance. Too much running in basketball and not enough recovery time between games.

Speaking from experience here. I quit playing pickup games at 40. I was still running 3 miles several times a week but basketball is different.

Looking at bball history the guys who have aged the best are generally thin shooters or bigs. Lebron is an anomaly. I am curious to see how long he can keep this up. He is a big guy with a lot of mileage on his body.

Manny98
02-08-2021, 10:09 PM
LeGod will dominate for another 50 years

warriorfan
02-08-2021, 10:14 PM
Brady isn't strong, fast nor agile. He plays a position that doesn't demand it to be successful. All you need is an OL to give you enough time to throw. In basketball Bron can not lose these 3 things and be as successful. If anything Bon being 36 and still the best player in the game. Still dominating. After hes been in the NBA since 18, played lots of minutes, games both reg/postseason, international competition is insane. People expected a decline because usually its what happens. Not with Bron. I see no major decline in his game that has me saying he can not continue until he is 40. At the level he is playing today, barring a significant injury of course.

As someone hinted too. Todays resources of keeping yourself in sports longer than the norm are evident. Its still a physical grind in the NBA so someone dominating at age 43 will be uncommon. If Bron were to do that I'll relinquish my argument he isnt the goat. In the NFL the QB position is one where you can play into your 40's given the league. The more mobile QBs may not (Lamar Jackson)

Note, to say what Tom brady did at 43 be classified as dominating? Is hilarious. Otherwise i need to know what that words means because we obviously have two different definitions.

This is like the modern day version of Buddy Ryan’s “all he does is catch touchdowns” :lol

ralph_i_el
02-09-2021, 07:18 AM
In basketball, you don't get tackled by some of the strongest humans on Earth. In today's basketball, there's much less defense and hardly any contact. Mostly just shooting drills. As for Lebron, he's built like a football player more than a basketball player and he's the one bulldozing others, so he has a blatant advantage. Quit making excuses.

Brady isn't getting tackled by some of the strongest humans on earth. Historic he falls apart when he ever takes significant contact. He wouldn't even still be playing if he couldn't be on a team with a stacked o line.

k0kakw0rld
02-09-2021, 10:22 AM
They play once a week, that's all I'm saying.

nineiron
02-09-2021, 11:27 AM
Will we see a player win a championship as the guy/MVP of team at age 43?

when the nba creates a position where you literally just have to stand there and throw the ball. i think my mom got more steps in on Sunday than Brady.

and Brady did not "dominate". he threw for 200yds. that is not domination.

the Bucs' defence was the one that dominated.

aj1987
02-09-2021, 08:59 PM
when the nba creates a position where you literally just have to stand there and throw the ball. i think my mom got more steps in on Sunday than Brady.

and Brady did not "dominate". he threw for 200yds. that is not domination.

the Bucs' defence was the one that dominated.

He threw 3 TD's and had a completion % of nearly 73%. That's domination, idiot.

ImKobe
02-09-2021, 09:10 PM
when the nba creates a position where you literally just have to stand there and throw the ball. i think my mom got more steps in on Sunday than Brady.

and Brady did not "dominate". he threw for 200yds. that is not domination.

the Bucs' defence was the one that dominated.

He had 3 TDs in the first half, including a 71-yard TD drive in just under a minute as KC dared him to go for it by calling timeouts. It was a blowout by the end of the 3rd so obviously they were going to run the clock out.

csh19792001
02-10-2021, 05:38 AM
Will we have NBA player like Lebron dominate at age 36? (after 18 consecutive seasons)

Great question. I seriously doubt it.

clipps
02-10-2021, 07:07 PM
Tom Brady isn't an NBA player you ****ing dumbass.