View Full Version : James Harden did so much better against the Warriors then Lebron
Walk on Water
02-10-2021, 07:40 AM
Lebron gets credit for winning 2 games against the Warriors in 2015. In the end, what is Lebron's record against the Warriors? What's the excuse?
The excuse was KD. However, Harden went to game 7 two times against KD. Lebron got swept! Lebron couldn't even win 2 games against KD with Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving? You know you're full of it when you give him a pass for that.
Expect more out of your king. Have some dignity.
His losses more than outweigh all his wins.
3ball
02-10-2021, 07:43 AM
I'm speechless
I have nothing more to add
Oh, except that durant had Curry, but lebron had the guy that destroyed Curry... So lebron should've won but KD outplayed him and erased his stats.. meanwhile, Harden had nothing but still almost won because that's what he's supposed to do - be competitive and have chance, not lose by record amount like Lebron
Wally450
02-10-2021, 01:24 PM
Surely Harden must have a series win against the Warriors then, no?
light
02-10-2021, 02:17 PM
Lebron gets credit for winning 2 games against the Warriors in 2015. In the end, what is Lebron's record against the Warriors? What's the excuse?
The excuse was KD. However, Harden went to game 7 two times against KD. Lebron got swept! Lebron couldn't even win 2 games against KD with Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving? You know you're full of it when you give him a pass for that.
Expect more out of your king. Have some dignity.
His losses more than outweigh all his wins.
One of NBA history's most legendary performances was LeBron in 2018.
Cleveland's closing lineup was LeBron James, JR Smith, George Hill, Jeff Green and Kevin Love.
Could you imagine anyone else carrying that collection of flotsam to the Finals?
Harden could never.
Jordan could never.
Kobe could never.
Shaq could never.
Kareem? Magic? Bird?
No. Nope. Never.
If instead LeBron had guys like Chris Paul, Clint Capela, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza & PJ Tucker the Cavs would've won.
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Airupthere
02-10-2021, 02:22 PM
Lebron gets credit for winning 2 games against the Warriors in 2015. In the end, what is Lebron's record against the Warriors? What's the excuse?
The excuse was KD. However, Harden went to game 7 two times against KD. Lebron got swept! Lebron couldn't even win 2 games against KD with Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving? You know you're full of it when you give him a pass for that.
Expect more out of your king. Have some dignity.
His losses more than outweigh all his wins.
:applause:
dankok8
02-10-2021, 02:48 PM
One of NBA history's most legendary performances was LeBron in 2018.
Cleveland's closing lineup was LeBron James, JR Smith, George Hill, Jeff Green and Kevin Love.
Could you imagine anyone else carrying that collection of flotsam to the Finals?
Harden could never.
Jordan could never.
Kobe could never.
Shaq could never.
Kareem? Magic? Bird?
No. Nope. Never.
If instead LeBron had guys like Chris Paul, Clint Capela, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza & PJ Tucker the Cavs would've won.
https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-10-at-10.08.51-AM.png
Playing against teams led by Oladipo, Lowry and 19-year old Tatum?
I think all those guys could do it. It's not to hate on Lebron because he did well but the East that year was a complete joke.
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warriorfan
02-10-2021, 04:38 PM
Playing against teams led by Oladipo, Lowry and 19-year old Tatum?
I think all those guys could do it. It's not to hate on Lebron because he did well but the East that year was a complete joke.
:lol
Kblaze8855
02-10-2021, 04:49 PM
The stretching some of you lames do to find something to say about Lebron is just amazing. Like anyone gives a shit the 86 Celtics swept Jordan but Nique won a game with similar casts or Marbury and Marion taking the same number of games off the 03 Spurs as Shaq and Kobe. Who is tracking how many games the Rochester Royals took off the Celtics as opposed to how many Oscar Robertson did when the end result is an L either way?
Total “so what” information not worth even being made aware of.
Having a lifelong interest in unimportant basketball facts....I get it. But it isn’t out of basketball curiosity or interest. Just a burning need to talk shit about the same guy all day.
tpols
02-10-2021, 04:56 PM
Cleveland's closing lineup was LeBron James, JR Smith, George Hill, Jeff Green and Kevin Love.
That's not a bad line up at all.
So he had an All NBA / All Star teammate, and a 6MOY and couldn't even win one game?
After Chris Paul went down all Harden had was Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza and PJ tucker lmao. And they were competitive.
Hey Yo
02-10-2021, 04:56 PM
Playing against teams led by Oladipo, Lowry and 19-year old Tatum?
I think all those guys could do it. It's not to hate on Lebron because he did well but the East that year was a complete joke.
Playing in their 8th consecutive Finals?? Don't think so.
MJ couldn't handle more than 3 consecutive Finals before needing to quit, let alone 8.
Hey Yo
02-10-2021, 04:58 PM
That's not a bad line up at all.
So he had an All NBA / All Star teammate, and a 6MOY and couldn't even win one game?
After Chris Paul went down all Harden had was Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza and PJ tucker lmao. And they were competitive.
dumb
tpols
02-10-2021, 04:59 PM
dumb
Love has made All NBA and All Star teams.
JR Smith has won 6MOY.
Facts mate. You guys are just so spoiled that you think good help is bad.
Kblaze8855
02-10-2021, 05:09 PM
dumb
He’s trolling as usual. If I posted what he had to say about Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford who have a combined 6 6th man awards it would be clear he doesn’t actually value such players. And it wasn’t when they were 5-6 years removed from winning it like JR was either. Hell Eric Gordon was the 6th man of the year the very season he’s giving Hardens post Paul cast “lmao” status above.
Jr is just another guy. Average back end of the roster guy you might get something from or not. He shot lights out vs the warriors one year and .317 the next. Never know what a dude like that will contribute. He might give you 17 or play like one of us and neither would be shocking.
Playing in their 8th consecutive Finals?? Don't think so.
MJ couldn't handle more than 3 consecutive Finals before needing to quit, let alone 8.
Lol you do realize not everyone can make the finals more than twice in a row unless they're playing for stacked teams?
SouBeachTalents
02-10-2021, 05:17 PM
That's not a bad line up at all.
So he had an All NBA / All Star teammate, and a 6MOY and couldn't even win one game?
After Chris Paul went down all Harden had was Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza and PJ tucker lmao. And they were competitive.
They lost the last 2 games by 29 & 9, that's competitive :lol
People act like the 2018 Finals was a complete massacre, but the Cavs should've won Game 1 and played them down to the wire in Game 3. Game 2 they lost decisively and Game 4 was a rout
tpols
02-10-2021, 05:32 PM
They lost the last 2 games by 29 & 9, that's competitive :lol
People act like the 2018 Finals was a complete massacre, but the Cavs should've won Game 1 and played them down to the wire in Game 3. Game 2 they lost decisively and Game 4 was a rout
The Rockets were up double digits in both games though... they did end up choking it away. Game 7 was in their hands and they missed what was it? Like 27 3's in a row. It was some preposterous bad luck on their end. Either way, Harden did have his team looking more dangerous than Lebron had his. Everybody skips over the fact he had an All Star in Kevin Love, it's just the two were never in sync.
Hey Yo
02-10-2021, 05:47 PM
Love has made All NBA and All Star teams.
JR Smith has won 6MOY.
Facts mate. You guys are just so spoiled that you think good help is bad.
More dumbassery from you..... facts mate.
hold this L
02-10-2021, 06:01 PM
Lebron beat the Warriors, meanwhile Harden is Curry's bitch after losing to him every time they meet in the playoffs. This topics makes zero sense.
Lebron beat the Warriors, meanwhile Harden is Curry's bitch after losing to him every time they meet in the playoffs. This topics makes zero sense.
But op is a curry stan
Am just not sure if he is the welfarefan's or anybody else's dup
Gohan
02-10-2021, 06:25 PM
More dumbassery from you..... facts mate.
Ask him his opinion on iverson and you’d find out all you need to know about him
Bronbron23
02-10-2021, 07:27 PM
Lebron gets credit for winning 2 games against the Warriors in 2015. In the end, what is Lebron's record against the Warriors? What's the excuse?
The excuse was KD. However, Harden went to game 7 two times against KD. Lebron got swept! Lebron couldn't even win 2 games against KD with Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving? You know you're full of it when you give him a pass for that.
Expect more out of your king. Have some dignity.
His losses more than outweigh all his wins.
Bruh bron beat the warriors though. Actually that same year harden lost to warriors without curry.
Bruh bron beat the warriors though. Actually that same year harden lost to warriors without curry.
Without curry, in 2016?:wtf:
HBK_Kliq_2
02-10-2021, 10:15 PM
Also washed up Dirk with non allstar Monta Ellis were able to take the 2014 spurs to 7 games. While 2014 Spurs wiped the floor with lebron's heat.
During 3 game finals winning streak in 2014, kawhi averaged 24PPG on 69% FG and they were all blowouts! So Kawhi could have easily dropped 30PPG during that stretch if Lebron wasn't so gutless and made the games close.
MaxPlayer
02-10-2021, 10:29 PM
The stretching some of you lames do to find something to say about Lebron is just amazing. Like anyone gives a shit the 86 Celtics swept Jordan but Nique won a game with similar casts or Marbury and Marion taking the same number of games off the 03 Spurs as Shaq and Kobe. Who is tracking how many games the Rochester Royals took off the Celtics as opposed to how many Oscar Robertson did when the end result is an L either way?
Total “so what” information not worth even being made aware of.
Having a lifelong interest in unimportant basketball facts....I get it. But it isn’t out of basketball curiosity or interest. Just a burning need to talk shit about the same guy all day.
TBF you gotta dig pretty deep to find any ammo against The King.
BigKAT
02-10-2021, 11:12 PM
Surely Harden must have a series win against the Warriors then, no?
And a championship to go with it.
Surely.
Bronbron23
02-10-2021, 11:23 PM
And a championship to go with it.
Surely.
Definitely not but not sure a fan of kat should be talking
ArbitraryWater
02-10-2021, 11:36 PM
Playing against teams led by Oladipo, Lowry and 19-year old Tatum?
I think all those guys could do it. It's not to hate on Lebron because he did well but the East that year was a complete joke.
Shouldnt the fact that LeBron produced at all time levels to barely squeeze out two series' tell you enough about the talent disparity he was facing?
ArbitraryWater
02-10-2021, 11:36 PM
Without curry, in 2016?:wtf:
Thats right.
aj1987
02-10-2021, 11:45 PM
That's not a bad line up at all.
So he had an All NBA / All Star teammate, and a 6MOY and couldn't even win one game?
After Chris Paul went down all Harden had was Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza and PJ tucker lmao. And they were competitive.
You do know that Kobe needed GOAT level rigging to just make the PO's, right? Oh, and they made the PO's WITHOUT Kobe. With a team of:
DPOY/All-NBA/All-Def/All-Star - Ron Artest
DPOY/All-NBA/All-Def/All-Star - Dwight
All-NBA/All-Star - Pau
MVP/All-NBA/All-Star - Nash
All-Star - Jamison
Basically 2 DPOY's, 1 MVP, 5 All-Stars, and 4 All-NBA players.
Not to mention the FACT that he choked away a Finals with 3 HOF players, one of whom is considered a top 5 GOAT, the other a top 15-20 GOAT, and the third and top 20-30 GOAT.
Let that sink in.
TheCorporation
02-11-2021, 12:05 AM
Did you forget 2015? Harden did not do better against the Warriors than LeBron. Harden lost in 5 games in 2015. LeBron lost in 6 and he was missing his #2 and #3 option.
Listen, if you don't know basic NBA history then don't make new threads. Thanks.
TheCorporation
02-11-2021, 12:08 AM
Lebron beat the Warriors, meanwhile Harden is Curry's bitch after losing to him every time they meet in the playoffs. This topics makes zero sense.
+1
The Warriors 15-0'd the West during this time frame but was only 2-3 against the East.
Why was the East the only teams able to stop the Warriors from 2015-2019? If the Warriors only got to play in the weak West they would have 5-peated. Good thing the Strong East was there to stop them. No one has done better against the Warriors than LeBron.
SouBeachTalents
02-11-2021, 12:31 AM
Also washed up Dirk with non allstar Monta Ellis were able to take the 2014 spurs to 7 games. While 2014 Spurs wiped the floor with lebron's heat.
During 3 game finals winning streak in 2014, kawhi averaged 24PPG on 69% FG and they were all blowouts! So Kawhi could have easily dropped 30PPG during that stretch if Lebron wasn't so gutless and made the games close.
Too bad he could only score 14 points in Game 7
k0kakw0rld
02-11-2021, 04:41 AM
Playing against teams led by Oladipo, Lowry and 19-year old Tatum?
I think all those guys could do it. It's not to hate on Lebron because he did well but the East that year was a complete joke.
8 straight nba finals.
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