did peak Roman Empire have the greatest territory?

[scuzzy]

Obv Mongols conquered the most but geographically friendly the Romans had it made.

What a time to be a Caesar

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[Patrick Chewing]

It certainly explains the successes to this day of Eastern and Western Europe. Modernized and civilized in comparison to their surrounding neighbors.

[Micku]

Imo, still the USA. Oceans are its natural defense and borders against foreign enemies. Although We have North and South foreign countries, it's better since we normally are constant friendly terms. Great natural resources too.

Rome still different enemies to worry about. Granted, war is what they do.

Rome had great territory tho.

[fsvr54]

Mongols had the second biggest empire. The British Empire was the largest in world history.

[HighFlyer23]

No,

The Achaemenid Empire, Mongol Empire, Umayyad Empire, and British Empire were all just as or more significant than the Roman empire.

The American empire is the most dominant empire so far

[72-10]

The Mongol Empire, which is distinct from the Han Chinese, was the largest empire in terms of territory and had the largest percentage of concurrent civilizations conquered. The Roman Empire is second in terms of land area. The Macedonian Empire was the second fastest-spreading empire and is probably the third-largest in terms of area. The British Empire was the farthest-reaching and easily either third or fourth in area since it encompassed various areas all over the globe due to its navy.

[CelticBaller]

British Empire

[HighFlyer23]

The Mongol Empire, which is distinct from the Han Chinese, was the largest empire in terms of territory and had the largest percentage of concurrent civilizations conquered. The Roman Empire is second in terms of land area. The Macedonian Empire was the second fastest-spreading empire and is probably the third-largest in terms of area. The British Empire was the farthest-reaching and easily either third or fourth in area since it encompassed various areas all over the globe due to its navy.
The British empire had the most overall area. Mongol empire had the largest continuous area Achaemenid empire had the highest percent of world population under it's control and was the first empire to spread into 3 continents.

The Roman empire lasted the longest.

[highwhey]

this is the greatest territory ever

https://i.postimg.cc/jdnsn4vM/dfhdhdfjh.png

[iamgine]

I'd say the Dutch East India Company had the greatest territory.

[72-10]

The British empire had the most overall area. Mongol empire had the largest continuous area Achaemenid empire had the highest percent of world population under it's control and was the first empire to spread into 3 continents.

The Roman empire lasted the longest.

No, it didn't, although it'd be interesting to know how much territorial waters they claimed since that'd be a most if the legal concept existed at the time, which I'm unsure about. I'm quite sure what I posted is correct.

[fsvr54]

No, it didn't, although it'd be interesting to know how much territorial waters they claimed since that'd be a most if the legal concept existed at the time, which I'm unsure about. I'm quite sure what I posted is correct.

You're wrong. British was the largest

[Clifton]

To have the entire Mediterranean is pretty insane. It's all there, and as far as they knew it was the whole world. Also as far as they knew (in the 2nd century), there wasn't really any rival or any possibility of being overcome. And on top of all that, there were decades, centuries even, of rule that was as wise, benevolent, and effective, as any in history.

Later Europe had a few really great monarchs, but a lot of European history is filled with international and intra-national conflict for various reasons. Roman peace was a mixed bag as any political arrangement has ever been, but in some ways it was really legit.

[scuzzy]

peak Roman vs peak Mongol


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[Clifton]

Are you asking which has greater geographical share mileage, or which was the greatest empire, something in between? Which was the most impressive to get and keep, perhaps? Does holding it for a longer time factor in? Rome only lasted 500 years or so.. and half of those were past-prime..

But Rome had Gaul, Britain, north Africa, Greece, the Jews... all kinds of cultures with great achievements and unique characters. Mongols? Don't know much about em, but does it rival that?

[Chick Stern]

Are you asking which has greater geographical share mileage, or which was the greatest empire, something in between? Which was the most impressive to get and keep, perhaps? Does holding it for a longer time factor in? Rome only lasted 500 years or so.. and half of those were past-prime..

But Rome had Gaul, Britain, north Africa, Greece, the Jews... all kinds of cultures with great achievements and unique characters. Mongols? Don't know much about em, but does it rival that?
The Mongols were about to concur Europe and would have ruled from one ocean to the other. Only the death of the Khan stopped them. More cultures than Rome. They get my vote.
Each empire is a product of its era, and was primarily limited by the type of travel they had available.
Each impressive in their own way.
ps - listen to Hardcore History podcast for great insight into the Mongols.

[fsvr54]

As far as influence on the western world Rome is by far the greatest. Then the British and Athenian empires.

[scuzzy]

Are you asking which has greater geographical share mileage, or which was the greatest empire, something in between? Which was the most impressive to get and keep, perhaps? Does holding it for a longer time factor in? Rome only lasted 500 years or so.. and half of those were past-prime..

But Rome had Gaul, Britain, north Africa, Greece, the Jews... all kinds of cultures with great achievements and unique characters. Mongols? Don't know much about em, but does it rival that?
I was more speaking on quality of geography for that time period in general; resources, travel, climate, trade etc.

Didn't really make that clear in the OP

[TheMan]

It certainly explains the successes to this day of Eastern and Western Europe. Modernized and civilized in comparison to their surrounding neighbors.

That's not the reason European countries flourished...wars and colonization is the reason. Read a bit, dummy.

I suspect you're too lazy to read so here, this video is specifically about Latin America but it also explains why Europe is more successful than other regions, and it had nothing to do with the Roman Empire...

https://youtu.be/v6xi8_7Fy6Y

[TheMan]

Mongol Empire, Greek and then Roman, in that order.

Obviously the British Empire had collectively the biggest in more recent times, and people sleeping on the Spanish Empire big time here (they had damn near everything from Florida, the western US through Mexico on down to Argentina, with the Philippines to boot.

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[HighFlyer23]

The Mongols were about to concur Europe and would have ruled from one ocean to the other. Only the death of the Khan stopped them. More cultures than Rome. They get my vote.
Each empire is a product of its era, and was primarily limited by the type of travel they had available.
Each impressive in their own way.
ps - listen to Hardcore History podcast for great insight into the Mongols.

The Mongols lost in Egypt and India ... Mostly because they fought against their cousins the Turks who understood their tactics and because of the death of Ogdei Khan.

But it's true ... Had Ogdei Khan not died and the Mongols elites not returned to select the new leader who know how far they would have gotten ...They performed very well against Hungary and Poland

[clutchinho]

Easily the Chinese, the longest continuous culture on earth. Not the largest geographically but more due to the fact that they lacked nothing and did not need to plunder foreign lands to keep the empire afloat.

Sure they were invaded by the Mongols and other barbarians several times but the civilisation was so glorious that the barbarians chose to assimilate themselves to the culture that they just invaded rather than keep their own.

[fsvr54]

Chinese had many different empires though, it was never one continuous one.

Are you talking about Han China? Ming China? Yuan China?

[Big_Dogg]

Easily the Chinese, the longest continuous culture on earth. Not the largest geographically but more due to the fact that they lacked nothing and did not need to plunder foreign lands to keep the empire afloat.

Sure they were invaded by the Mongols and other barbarians several times but the civilisation was so glorious that the barbarians chose to assimilate themselves to the culture that they just invaded rather than keep their own.

They are in the top 5 though

When you look at % of the world conquered during their peak, it is rated as follows

British - 26% +
Mongol - 18%
Russian - 16%
Quing Dynasty - 11%
Spanish - 10%

Nobody else even breaks double figures in world history

[clutchinho]

Chinese had many different empires though, it was never one continuous one.

Are you talking about Han China? Ming China? Yuan China?

The different dynasties just represent the different ruling families, while there were dynasties founded by people who were not ethnically part of the majority han - they all ruled as emperor (son of heaven) with the mandate of heaven.

[fsvr54]

The different dynasties just represent the different ruling families, while there were dynasties founded by people who were not ethnically part of the majority han - they all ruled as emperor (son of heaven) with the mandate of heaven.

I do agree that China is without doubt of the most important civilizations in world history.

[72-10]

You're wrong. British was the largest

Just so you know, I was referring to the territorial waters being a most in their own right. Lands typically govern 10 miles of water out in each direction from their nearest landmass, and this is due to the discussed empire's own pen since they writ it into law.

Some of the places conquested by the British Empire include gigantic islands and peninsulas such as all of Australia and Oceania (that includes New Zealand), India, the Falkland Islands, and various islands such that they had governance over tons of square mileage of ocean due to all the coastline. In addition, they owned vast coastal areas in the western world, such as the Thirteen Colonies and all of British Columbia, Alberta and the Northwest Territories, basically the western half of modern-day Canada.

I don't know what convinces you that it adds to more area than the Mongol Empire, though.

[72-10]

As far as influence on the western world Rome is by far the greatest. Then the British and Athenian empires.

Of course you're right.