Zach Lavine 46/4/7 hits nine 3 pointers

[AirBonner]

:bowdown: This kid is a late bloomer. Stud.

[Xiao Yao You]

win?

[AirBonner]

win?

And the win

[PeroAntic]

'not a superstar'

[Axe]

They won? Wew, good job!

Hope he keeps being consistent like this.

[k0kakw0rld]

Free him though

Bulls are trash

[coin24]

Hope someone trades for him, get out of shitcago

[Xiao Yao You]

Free him though

Bulls are trash

why can't any of these so called superstars make their teams better?

[k0kakw0rld]

why can't any of these so called superstars make their teams better?
Kobe wasn't winning shit once Shaq left. He started winning again once they brought in Odom, Gasol, Bynum to help.

So who do you see helping LaVine in Chicago? I mean Markkanen isn't developing into the player we thought he could become. Plus, he has been injured most of the season.

[Axe]

Free him though

Bulls are trash
Come on lmao. Don't be ridiculous.

[Axe]

why can't any of these so called superstars make their teams better?
They're not superstars unless they can bring the team to relevance someday.

[PeroAntic]

why can't any of these so called superstars make their teams better?

How exactly is he supposed to make the team better, apart from what hes already doing?

[Xiao Yao You]

How exactly is he supposed to make the team better, apart from what hes already doing?

empty stats apparently don't make the team better

[PeroAntic]

empty stats apparently don't make the team better

So you don't know then what more is he supposed to do. its okay, you can say that.

[Xiao Yao You]

So you don't know then what more is he supposed to do. its okay, you can say that.

make his teammates better and win. That's what the best players do

[PeroAntic]

make his teammates better and win. That's what the best players do

Cut out the platitudes for once and say specifically how is he supposed to do that, apart from what he already is doing.

[Xiao Yao You]

Cut out the platitudes for once and say specifically how is he supposed to do that, apart from what he already is doing.

Don't watch him enough to say I just know so called superstars can carry teams and make those around them better while winning games. Not like the east isn't wide open to do so

[Mr. Woke]

why can't any of these so called superstars make their teams better?

Who said Zach was a superstar?

There is only so much that one player can do. The Bulls roster (from top to bottom) is underwhelming.

Quit expecting one guy to do everything.

[StrongLurk]

He's been really good since three years ago. He and Beal need to be traded ASAP.

[k0kakw0rld]

Don't watch him enough to say I just know so called superstars can carry teams and make those around them better while winning games. Not like the east isn't wide open to do so
You don't watch someone play but somehow you know he needs to make his teammates better.

You are an idiot.

[Xiao Yao You]

Who said Zach was a superstar?

There is only so much that one player can do. The Bulls roster (from top to bottom) is underwhelming.

Quit expecting one guy to do everything.

PeroAntic says he's a superstar. I don't expect one guy to do everything. But 1 guy can carry a team and make his teammates better. Need more than numbers to a superstar and MVP candiadate like Magic called Beal :roll:

[AirBonner]

PeroAntic says he's a superstar. I don't expect one guy to do everything. But 1 guy can carry a team and make his teammates better. Need more than numbers to a superstar and MVP candiadate like Magic called Beal :roll:

Mitchell is averaging 24/5/4
LaVine is averaging 27/5/5

LaVine >>>>> Mitchell

[k0kakw0rld]

Mitchell is averaging 24/5/4
LaVine is averaging 27/5/5

LaVine >>>>> Mitchell

Stop the non sense.

LaVine has yet to play a single minute of playoff basketball.

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell is averaging 24/5/4
LaVine is averaging 27/5/5

LaVine >>>>> Mitchell

He might be but that's not saying much

[Mr. Woke]

PeroAntic says he's a superstar. I don't expect one guy to do everything. But 1 guy can carry a team and make his teammates better. Need more than numbers to a superstar and MVP candiadate like Magic called Beal :roll:

One guy cannot carry a team by himself.

Quit lying.

[PP34Deuce]

Zach lavine is not a superstar however he is a proven scorer that's slowly becoming more well rounded.

For that, he's a good 2nd option or amazing 3rd option. In Chicago he can't be your best player.

[AirBonner]

Zach lavine is not a superstar however he is a proven scorer that's slowly becoming more well rounded.

For that, he's a good 2nd option or amazing 3rd option. In Chicago he can't be your best player.

Right now I’d trade Smart, Kemba and a 1st round pick for him without hesitation.

[Xiao Yao You]

One guy cannot carry a team by himself.

Quit lying.

1 guy can take a good team from bad to good especially in the east

[PeroAntic]

Hes playing at all NBA level. These are actually historic numbers. Anyone who screams empty stats has no clue what hes talking about. Hes not scoring 20 ppg at low efficiency. thats empty stats for you, this is sth else. Lavine is carrying that weak team to a respectable record. Hes the reason games are tight, and in the clutch he gets them over the line more often than not.

Hes likely the most complete pure scorer in the league behind Durant right now. Dont give me Harden, he doesn't play off the ball and cheats.

[Mr. Woke]

1 guy can take a good team from bad to good especially in the east

Nope.

It always takes more than one guy.

[Mr. Woke]

Hes playing at all NBA level. These are actually historic numbers. Anyone who screams empty stats has no clue what hes talking about. Hes not scoring 20 ppg at low efficiency. thats empty stats for you, this is sth else. Lavine is carrying that weak team to a respectable record. Hes the reason games are tight, and in the clutch he gets them over the line more often than not.

Hes likely the most complete pure scorer in the league behind Durant right now. Dont give me Harden, he doesn't play off the ball and cheats.

Harden is a way better scorer than LaVine lol.

Quit being delusional.

[PeroAntic]

Harden is a way better scorer than LaVine lol.

Quit being delusional.

lol no

Lavine doesnt hold the ball nearly as much as Harden does and he scores the same. Nor does he get extra 4-5 free throws per game due to flopping (actually he doesnt get as much calls as he should)

Oh and Lavine is more efficient from everywhere on the floor. Harden is a better playmaker/passer and thats about it, not a better scorer.

[Mr. Woke]

lol no

Lavine doesnt hold the ball nearly as much as Harden does and he scores the same. Nor does he get extra 4-5 free throws per game due to flopping (actually he doesnt get as much calls as he should)

Oh and Lavine is more efficient from everywhere on the floor. Harden is a better playmaker/passer and thats about it, not a better scorer.

You are delusional as hell.

LaVine is having a great season, but he won't be able to sustain this level of production over multiple seasons.

Harden has had multiple seasons of high level scoring.

LaVine can't hold Harden's jock lol.

[Manny98]

Hes playing at all NBA level. These are actually historic numbers. Anyone who screams empty stats has no clue what hes talking about. Hes not scoring 20 ppg at low efficiency. thats empty stats for you, this is sth else. Lavine is carrying that weak team to a respectable record. Hes the reason games are tight, and in the clutch he gets them over the line more often than not.

Hes likely the most complete pure scorer in the league behind Durant right now. Dont give me Harden, he doesn't play off the ball and cheats.
Imagine saying this with a straight face :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Hes playing at all NBA level. These are actually historic numbers. Anyone who screams empty stats has no clue what hes talking about. Hes not scoring 20 ppg at low efficiency. thats empty stats for you, this is sth else. Lavine is carrying that weak team to a respectable record. Hes the reason games are tight, and in the clutch he gets them over the line more often than not.

Hes likely the most complete pure scorer in the league behind Durant right now. Dont give me Harden, he doesn't play off the ball and cheats.
If he was as good as you say he was the team wouldn’t be significantly better when he’s on the bench.

[PeroAntic]

You are delusional as hell.

LaVine is having a great season, but he won't be able to sustain this level of production over multiple seasons.

Harden has had multiple seasons of high level scoring.

LaVine can't hold Harden's jock lol.

So your argument is based on a prediction for the next seasons:roll:

Meanwhile you haven't disproved anything I said. High level scoring by holding the ball 90 percent of the game and bogus freethrows.

Got damn media brainwashed sheep.

[PeroAntic]

Imagine saying this with a straight face :oldlol:

What aspect of scoring is Lavine not great at, you dumb ****? Who is a better pure scorer than him? Go on, say Lebron, please:roll:

[Mr. Woke]

So your argument is based on a prediction for the next seasons:roll:

Meanwhile you haven't disproved anything I said. High level scoring by holding the ball 90 percent of the game and bogus freethrows.

Got damn media brainwashed sheep.

Your argument is based on one season lol.

Your arguments make no sense, and you are clearly a Harden hater.

You are a brainwashed dunce.

[Axe]

Stop the non sense.

LaVine has yet to play a single minute of playoff basketball.
I agree with this but currently, there are far much better teams in the east atm. It may take a year or two.

[Axe]

Your argument is based on one season lol.

Your arguments make no sense, and you are clearly a Harden hater.

You are a brainwashed dunce.
Nobody should take him seriously. He's only good at exaggerating players that he likes.

[Xiao Yao You]

Nope.

It always takes more than one guy.

no 1 guy can be the difference between the lottery and the playoffs especially in the east

[PeroAntic]

Your argument is based on one season lol.

Your arguments make no sense, and you are clearly a Harden hater.

You are a brainwashed dunce.

Lavine vs Harden

2pt efficiency: Lavine
3pt efficiency: Lavine
off ball scoring: Lavine
bogus freethrows: Harden
ballhogging: Harden

Id like to see you dispute any of the above FACTS, sheep.

[Axe]

Lavine vs Harden

2pt efficiency: Lavine
3pt efficiency: Lavine
off ball scoring: Lavine
bogus freethrows: Harden
ballhogging: Harden

Id like to see you dispute any of the above FACTS, sheep.
Lol at you comparing lavine to a former mvp like harden

[PeroAntic]

Lol at you comparing lavine to a former mvp like harden

Derrick Rose is also a former MVP and everyone here shits on him on a daily basis, regardless of the fact that the two seasons prior to this one he was fantastic.

Lavine vs Harden

2pt efficiency: Lavine
3pt efficiency: Lavine
off ball scoring: Lavine
bogus freethrows: Harden
ballhogging: Harden

Dont quote me if you cant dispute the FACTS I stated.

[Xiao Yao You]

Derrick Rose is also a former MVP and everyone here shits on him on a daily basis, regardless of the fact that the two seasons prior to this one he was fantastic.

Lavine vs Harden

2pt efficiency: Lavine
3pt efficiency: Lavine
off ball scoring: Lavine
bogus freethrows: Harden
ballhogging: Harden

Dont quote me if you cant dispute the FACTS I stated.

Rose only gets shit on because you call him elite.

[PeroAntic]

Rose only gets shit on because you call him elite.

He was in the previous two seasons.

[Xiao Yao You]

He was in the previous two seasons.

He hasn't been since he got injured a decade or whenever ago

[Manny98]

What aspect of scoring is Lavine not great at, you dumb ****? Who is a better pure scorer than him? Go on, say Lebron, please:roll:

How about scoring in the playoffs against tough championship level defenses. If he can do what he is doing now in the playoffs against top competition not the garbage pelicans then I admit he's a superstar caliber player

But as of now the difference between Zach Lavine and the LeBrons and KDs of the world is that those guys have proven they can dominate at the top level.

Lavine is still unproven in that aspect

[Mr. Woke]

Lavine vs Harden

2pt efficiency: Lavine
3pt efficiency: Lavine
off ball scoring: Lavine
bogus freethrows: Harden
ballhogging: Harden

Id like to see you dispute any of the above FACTS, sheep.

You are incredibly delusional.

LaVine is not on Harden's level.

[AirBonner]

You are incredibly delusional.

LaVine is not on Harden's level.

23/11/7 < 27/5/5

LaVine is better

[PeroAntic]

How about scoring in the playoffs against tough championship level defenses. If he can do what he is doing now in the playoffs against top competition not the garbage pelicans then I admit he's a superstar caliber player


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQoLx_veZxo


he can score against anyone

[Manny98]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQoLx_veZxo


he can score against anyone

Do it in the playoffs :sleeping

Edit: just checked the standings and the Bulls are the 10th seed right now :facepalm

Lavine leading his team to the lottery once again

[r0drig0lac]

Don't watch him enough to say I just know so called superstars can carry teams and make those around them better while winning games. Not like the east isn't wide open to do so

:facepalm

[PeroAntic]

Edit: just checked the standings and the Bulls are the 10th seed right now :facepalm

Lavine leading his team to the lottery once again


One game out of the playoffs:facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

Do it in the playoffs :sleeping

Edit: just checked the standings and the Bulls are the 10th seed right now :facepalm

Lavine leading his team to the lottery once again

at 10-14. The lEast! :lol

[AirBonner]

at 10-14. The lEast! :lol

How do the bulls roster compare to the Jazz. All the Jazz players are favorable right down to the waterboy

[Xiao Yao You]

How do the bulls roster compare to the Jazz. All the Jazz players are favorable right down to the waterboy

compare them with the tanking team that Rudy carried to the 6th best record in 2015 after the trade deadline. Fair enough. Two tanking teams. One superstar and one nobody. The nobody won and the superstar hasn't

[RRR3]

He was in the previous two seasons.
No he wasn’t Jesus Christ.

[PeroAntic]

No he wasn’t Jesus Christ.

2011 MVP numbers per 36 minutes says otherwise.

[Mr. Woke]

23/11/7 < 27/5/5

LaVine is better

He is averaging slightly more points, but he isn't better than Harden.

Quit being delusional.

[RRR3]

2011 MVP numbers per 36 minutes says otherwise.
Why don’t you compare his advanced stats in 2011 to those years? That’s right you’re petrified to because you know they’re not close. Clown.

[PeroAntic]

Why don’t you compare his advanced stats in 2011 to those years? That’s right you’re petrified to because you know they’re not close. Clown.

His advanced stats meant he got MVP. His advanced stats are worse the last two seasons because he played less, and other circumstances (teammate quality etc). Thats why hes not MVP anymore, now just elite. shut your dumb ass up now.

[RRR3]

His advanced stats meant he got MVP. His advanced stats are worse the last two seasons because he played less, and other circumstances (teammate quality etc). Thats why hes not MVP anymore, now just elite. shut your dumb ass up now.
Elite players wouldn’t come off the bench on the Pistons and Knicks. His stats are only relatively similar to his 11 and 12 stats because the league has gotten so easy for perimeter players. In terms of efficiency he was above league average in 2011 and 2012. Yet below in 19 and 20, despite being more efficient those two years than he was in 11 and 12. Getting the stats he got is far more impressive in 2011/12 than it is in 19/20, the league has changed. That’s why it’s retarded to compare his stats like that as if he’s the same player. The advanced stats prove he’s not.