Deadly Forth Worth pile up caught on video

[Patrick Chewing]

Live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9HtT_nBTqg

As it happened: https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1359914703640793089?s=20


Looks like a war zone.

[highwhey]

people don't realize it gets cold af in texas and that black ice isn't a joke. was living in a super rural area of texas and the closest entrance to the highway was this super duper well thought out ramp that was only a couple car lengths and the asphalt was pitted with potholes, somehow you're supposed to get up to highway speed in such a short distance all the meanwhile truckers are zooming past you and the road is slippery af. almost spun out a couple times on the highway. i didn't need coffee to wake up, just getting on the highway was an adrenaline rush. https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/damn.png

[~primetime~]

It's 25 degrees today, and Monday it could actually go sub-zero here...which is nuts

It is really bad to drive in DFW during freezes for a couple reasons...1. As you can see a lot of our highways are in the air, and 2. people here are not used to driving in ice thus lots of bad drivers on the road.

[FultzNationRISE]

That is absolutely gut wrenching to see :(

RIP to those who were killed.

[tpols]

It's 25 degrees today, and Monday it could actually go sub-zero here...which is nuts

It is really bad to drive in DFW during freezes for a couple reasons...1. As you can see a lot of our highways are in the air, and 2. people here are not used to driving in ice thus lots of bad drivers on the road.

Shouldn't a qualification to drive a giant truck be that you're a good driver and pass tests or some shit?

[FultzNationRISE]

Shouldn't a qualification to drive a giant truck be that you're a good driver and pass tests or some shit?

Professional drivers drive all over the country, theyre experienced driving in bad weather. If they cause a crash it’s usually due to negligence or really bad luck with the weather. But the everyday person down south, and even in very dry west coast cities like LA and Vegas, really panics in even slightly sub optimal conditions.

In the case of this accident, it sounds like the sky was clear and the road was dry for the most part, so people didnt suspect anything, and were going at normal speeds... then very suddenly theres a stretch of ice and things turned tragic.

Really ****ed up.

[Stanley Kobrick]

most probably had long standing health problems, obesity or smoker. you just have to count your losses, would have died another way anyhow

[tpols]

Professional drivers drive all over the country, theyre experienced driving in bad weather. If they cause a crash it’s usually due to negligence or really bad luck with the weather. But the everyday person down south, and even in very dry west coast cities like LA and Vegas, really panics in even slightly sub optimal conditions.

In the case of this accident, it sounds like the sky was clear and the road was dry for the most part, so people didnt suspect anything, and were going at normal speeds... then very suddenly theres a stretch of ice and things turned tragic.

Really ****ed up.

I've been driving through snow for weeks lol... we got like 3 feet. But I wont go on highways if the weather is really bad. Just stick to low speed limit streets... too much risk for some knucklehead to run into me going that fast. I remember this one time this lady in an SUV slammed into me from behind when we came to a traffic stall... she hit me so hard, after my car flung forward, she hit me again. Rear ended twice in one hit. My neck hurt for weeks after the hospital.

[Patrick Chewing]

At least 5 people dead last I heard. I did see where a fireman rescued a trapped dog. That made me happy.


That twitter video is intense.

[Long Duck Dong]

I wonder why the people in the Toyota FJ didn't jump out of their vehicle after seeing what happened in the other lane? Pretty sure they are dead or critically injured.

A similar thing happened to me on the freeway. There was a big empty box in the fast lane, probably from a washer or dryer. You could tell it was empty because it was moving slightly with the wind from the traffic on the other side. Traffic started to slow and move out of the lane from the box but some lady in an old Honda Accord slammed on the brakes when she saw the box causing the truck behind her to smash into her and pushing her into the next lane where another car hit her and then a big rig rear ended that car. I came up to a stop behind a white van and looked in my rearview and saw this other big rig coming right behind me fast. I said fvck this and drove right into the landscaping on the shoulder in my F250. Just in time for the big rig to slam into the white van. The back end of the van exploded in shrapnel when it was hit by the big rig. I still remember the *ping*ping*ping*ping* of glass as it hit my pickup

[baudkarma]

The biggest problem is that when we do have widespread freezing weather, we don't have the equipment or the manpower to deal with it. Someplace like Boston or Chicago will have fleets of sanding trucks and snowplows to deal with bad winter weather, but down here we get ice so seldom that we can't justify that sort of expense. Of course a 100 car pileup and multiple deaths might change that.

[baudkarma]

Shouldn't a qualification to drive a giant truck be that you're a good driver and pass tests or some shit?

How do you propose testing someone applying for a CDL to determine if they can drive on a slick, icy road?

[GOBB]

Why not have black ice /speed reductions warnings? Not sure if that particular highway has issues in the past. Not sure speed limits but how folks are flying down road when you see vehicles at a standstill ahead is beyond me. People in Texas can’t be that stupid...or are they?

[GOBB]

The biggest problem is that when we do have widespread freezing weather, we don't have the equipment or the manpower to deal with it. Someplace like Boston or Chicago will have fleets of sanding trucks and snowplows to deal with bad winter weather, but down here we get ice so seldom that we can't justify that sort of expense. Of course a 100 car pileup and multiple deaths might change that.

Every place has a department of transportation. To think you can’t justify this expense is criminal. Ramps can be closed, pretreatment roads can be done, reduction in speed. I dont know speed limits there but say it’s 65? Speed reduction should be chopped down to 30mph. There should be signs you can change to forewarn drivers “black ice, slow down”. Heck we have that here that’ll tell us about a car accident ahead that’s slowing down traffic or construction work we are coming up on. Plenty of preventive measures. Really not trying to hear the expense argument.

[baudkarma]

Every place has a department of transportation. To think you can’t justify this expense is criminal. Ramps can be closed, pretreatment roads can be done, reduction in speed. I dont know speed limits there but say it’s 65? Speed reduction should be chopped down to 30mph. There should be signs you can change to forewarn drivers “black ice, slow down”. Heck we have that here that’ll tell us about a car accident ahead that’s slowing down traffic or construction work we are coming up on. Plenty of preventive measures. Really not trying to hear the expense argument.

"Not trying to hear" the expense argument doesn't make it any less relevant. The authorities have limited resources and multiple scenarios they have to prepare for. Tornadoes. Floods. Mass shootings. Wildfires. It's an extensive list, and "icy roads" is pretty far down the on that list for deadly threats, at least so far as north Texas is concerned. The DOT deployed the resources it had available and did the best they could. In an ideal world they would have a fleet of sanding trucks, ample supplies, well-trained and equipped workers at the ready. This is not an ideal world. The rarity of icy roads in this part of the country contributed to the tragedy because nobody was anticipating it. Most north Texans claim they can drive safely in adverse conditions, most of them are wrong.

[Vino24]

I wonder why the people in the Toyota FJ didn't jump out of their vehicle after seeing what happened in the other lane? Pretty sure they are dead or critically injured.

A similar thing happened to me on the freeway. There was a big empty box in the fast lane, probably from a washer or dryer. You could tell it was empty because it was moving slightly with the wind from the traffic on the other side. Traffic started to slow and move out of the lane from the box but some lady in an old Honda Accord slammed on the brakes when she saw the box causing the truck behind her to smash into her and pushing her into the next lane where another car hit her and then a big rig rear ended that car. I came up to a stop behind a white van and looked in my rearview and saw this other big rig coming right behind me fast. I said fvck this and drove right into the landscaping on the shoulder in my F250. Just in time for the big rig to slam into the white van. The back end of the van exploded in shrapnel when it was hit by the big rig. I still remember the *ping*ping*ping*ping* of glass as it hit my pickup

Saw a post on Reddit from the guy in the fj. He survived that

[And1AllDay]

That is absolutely gut wrenching to see :(

RIP to those who were killed.

amen brotha

[GOBB]

"Not trying to hear" the expense argument doesn't make it any less relevant. The authorities have limited resources and multiple scenarios they have to prepare for. Tornadoes. Floods. Mass shootings. Wildfires. It's an extensive list, and "icy roads" is pretty far down the on that list for deadly threats, at least so far as north Texas is concerned. The DOT deployed the resources it had available and did the best they could. In an ideal world they would have a fleet of sanding trucks, ample supplies, well-trained and equipped workers at the ready. This is not an ideal world. The rarity of icy roads in this part of the country contributed to the tragedy because nobody was anticipating it. Most north Texans claim they can drive safely in adverse conditions, most of them are wrong.

It’s really not difficult to train folks how to salt and treat roads. You don’t need a 4 year degree or years experience. All I read was excuses it sounds like a damn congressional hearing. Doesn’t matter how far down icey roads are. You have department of transportation. Damn near everyone does. Limited resources is hilarious. It takes nothing to equip the vehicles with salt. Heck dump trucks can be used. Raise the bed. The back door is already prearranged to a certain opening (1:3 inch) As you drive the salt drops to the road. Trash trucks can be used. You have vehicles there I don’t want to hear it part II. It’s called preparation. What are you guys battling floods now? Wait tornados? My bad intense wildfire going on. Limited manpower and resources. Cmon. Highway pileups can be avoided. Whether it’s in locations where it’s common or rarity. Att least the city/state can do its part where the responsibly falls solely on drivers. For speeding and being complete idiots.

Why wait for the next tragedy to repeat the same excuse? What are taxes paid for? Get it together. And I’m not even placing all the blame on DOT but they deserve some no doubt about it. Drivers just don’t know how to drive in general in bad weather. Even if it’s common let alone rarity. Seen way too many black ice disasters and you just see cars going above speed limit. Tractor trailers going above speed limits. People are just stupid as all hell.