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Walk on Water
02-12-2021, 09:01 PM
If the Warriors make the playoffs without Klay, you have to give it to Curry. He's putting up incredible numbers and has already had a 57 point game and 62 point game. If you don't understand how great he's playing, then you ain't been watching. He had another 10 three pointer game last night. Do you realize that nobody else, even Klay has 4 ten 3 pointer games and Curry has 17?
He's shooting over 43 percent from the 3 point line and over 93 percent from the free throw line. He's averaging 30 points a game. And many times he's being guarded like crazy. The shots he's making look video game-ish. He is shooting just like 2016, but he's also added strength and muscle and is making crazy and one shots.
If you take Curry off the Warriors team, they'd be the worst team in the league.
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Walk on Water
02-12-2021, 09:49 PM
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What? 30 points per game 43 pct 3s. 13 games in a row with 4 or more 3s. Warriors would be the worst team in the league without him.
Walk on Water
02-12-2021, 10:02 PM
Curry still holds the shrine. Everyone trying to copy him and shoot 3s all day long. Yet Curry still remains the top shooter in the league and has more than 40 3 pointers than the next leading g guy. No matter how much the league has changed, they still can’t catch Steph.
Nike D'Antoni
02-12-2021, 10:42 PM
MVP goes to the player of a winning team
Winning teams
Jazz
Lakers
Sixers
etc.
Bronbron23
02-12-2021, 10:57 PM
If the Warriors make the playoffs without Klay, you have to give it to Curry. He's putting up incredible numbers and has already had a 57 point game and 62 point game. If you don't understand how great he's playing, then you ain't been watching. He had another 10 three pointer game last night. Do you realize that nobody else, even Klay has 4 ten 3 pointer games and Curry has 17?
He's shooting over 43 percent from the 3 point line and over 93 percent from the free throw line. He's averaging 30 points a game. And many times he's being guarded like crazy. The shots he's making look video game-ish. He is shooting just like 2016, but he's also added strength and muscle and is making crazy and one shots.
If you take Curry off the Warriors team, they'd be the worst team in the league.
Historically speaking you have to have a very good record which i dought the warriors will. They'll probably just sneak in the playoffs at 7 or 8. If he can get the warriors to at least 5th place he'd have a great argument
light
02-12-2021, 11:00 PM
Making the playoffs without a star sidekick is not enough. If that was the case LeBron would have 8 MVPs.
Walk on Water
02-12-2021, 11:36 PM
MVP goes to the player of a winning team
Winning teams
Jazz
Lakers
Sixers
etc.
Warriors are over 500. They were the worst last year.
Nike D'Antoni
02-12-2021, 11:38 PM
Warriors are over 500. They were the worst last year.
They are outside the top 10 in the league. You gotta be at least top four for MVP, the only unique case was Westbrook.
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 12:01 AM
They are outside the top 10 in the league. You gotta be at least top four for MVP, the only unique case was Westbrook.
The Warriors are the same number of games back as the Nuggets but the biased media say Jokic is a candidate while strongly objecting to Curry. Curry of course is carrying the team that finished dead last the previous year. Even Durant is considered a candidate and he is playing on a superteam while missing games and the Nets are currently only one win ahead of the Warriors.
The Westbrook case merely highlights what the real agenda is. Who should have won the MVP in 2017 if wins record was the most important criteria? Harden? No. He didn't have the best record. Neither did Kawhi. Nor did the inferior player. Who had the best record? Curry!
They reinterpreted the standards to make it harder for Curry to win then and they are reinterpreting the standards now to make it harder for Curry to win now.
You gotta love how Curry's excellence is exposing the fraudulent media bias against him.
The media are exposed.
TheGoatest
02-13-2021, 01:51 AM
Lakers going 2-0 with LeBron averaging 27-8-8 while the Sixers lost a game in the last couple of days since this was published:
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Haters:
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And1AllDay
02-13-2021, 01:52 AM
Lakers going 2-0 with LeBron averaging 27-8-8 while the Sixers lost a game in the last couple of days since this was published:
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Haters:
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lemvp
leking sizing
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Nike D'Antoni
02-13-2021, 01:53 AM
Year
MVP
Team Record
Team Win%
Seed
2020
Giannis Antetokounmpo
56-17
0.767
1st
2019
Giannis Antetokounmpo
60-22
0.732
1st
2018
James Harden
65-17
0.793
1st
2017
Russell Westbrook
47-35
0.573
6th
2016
Steph Curry
73-9
0.890
1st
2015
Steph Curry
67-15
0.817
1st
2014
Kevin Durant
59-23
0.720
2nd
2013
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2012
LeBron James
46-20
0.697
2nd
2011
Derick Rose
62-20
0.756
1st
2010
LeBron James
61-21
0.744
1st
2009
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2008
Kobe Bryant
57-25
0.695
1st
2007
Dirk Nowitzki
67-15
0.817
1st
2006
Steve Nash
54-28
0.659
2nd
2005
Steve Nash
62-20
0.756
1st
2004
Kevin Garnett
58-24
0.707
1st
2003
Tim Duncan
60-22
0.732
1st
2002
Tim Duncan
58-24
0.707
2nd
2001
Allen Iverson
56-26
0.683
1st
2000
Shaquille O'neal
67-15
0.817
1st
And1AllDay
02-13-2021, 01:54 AM
Year
MVP
Team Record
Team Win%
Seed
2020
Giannis Antetokounmpo
56-17
0.767
1st
2019
Giannis Antetokounmpo
60-22
0.732
1st
2018
James Harden
65-17
0.793
1st
2017
Russell Westbrook
47-35
0.573
6th
2016
Steph Curry
73-9
0.890
1st
2015
Steph Curry
67-15
0.817
1st
2014
Kevin Durant
59-23
0.720
2nd
2013
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2012
LeBron James
46-20
0.697
2nd
2011
Derick Rose
62-20
0.756
1st
2010
LeBron James
61-21
0.744
1st
2009
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2008
Kobe Bryant
57-25
0.695
1st
2007
Dirk Nowitzki
67-15
0.817
1st
2006
Steve Nash
54-28
0.659
2nd
2005
Steve Nash
62-20
0.756
1st
2004
Kevin Garnett
58-24
0.707
1st
2003
Tim Duncan
60-22
0.732
1st
2002
Tim Duncan
58-24
0.707
2nd
2001
Allen Iverson
56-26
0.683
1st
2000
Shaquille O'neal
67-15
0.817
1st
its always 1st or 2nd seed
russ was the only exception due to averaging trip dub in modern times (rare)
Walk on Water
02-13-2021, 01:58 AM
The Warriors are the same number of games back as the Nuggets but the biased media say Jokic is a candidate while strongly objecting to Curry. Curry of course is carrying the team that finished dead last the previous year. Even Durant is considered a candidate and he is playing on a superteam while missing games and the Nets are currently only one win ahead of the Warriors.
The Westbrook case merely highlights what the real agenda is. Who should have won the MVP in 2017 if wins record was the most important criteria? Harden? No. He didn't have the best record. Neither did Kawhi. Nor did the inferior player. Who had the best record? Curry!
They reinterpreted the standards to make it harder for Curry to win then and they are reinterpreting the standards now to make it harder for Curry to win now.
You gotta love how Curry's excellence is exposing the fraudulent media bias against him.
The media are exposed.
I agree 100 pct with everything you said.
TheGoatest
02-13-2021, 01:59 AM
Wesbrook's stat-padded triple double had everyone fooled that he was the MVP as the 6th seed back in 2017. He accomplished a statistical feat that hadn't been done in 50 years, and throughout those years it was constantly talked about as being one of the most impressive statistical feats in history. It took that for the voters to overlook him being 6th seed. It was a con job that only happens once in a lifetime. Aside from that, no other player lower than 3rd seed has been named as MVP since the media began voting for the award. Curry has 0 chance unless both the Warriors start winning a ton of games and while a bunch of other teams all start losing a lot of games. It's not going to happen.
And1AllDay
02-13-2021, 02:00 AM
Wesbrook's stat-padded triple double had everyone fooled that he was the MVP as the 6th seed back in 2017. He accomplished a statistical feat that hadn't been done in 50 years, and throughout those years it was constantly talked about as being one of the most impressive statistical feats in history. It took that for the voters to overlook him being 6th seed. It was a con job that only happens once in a lifetime. Aside from that, no other player lower than 3rd seed has been named as MVP since the media began voting for the award. Curry has 0 chance unless both the Warriors start winning a ton of games and while a bunch of other teams all start losing a lot of games. It's not going to happen.
this
rules to mvp
1st seed
2nd seed
or do a season stat that hasnt been done for 50 years, so basically...
1st seed
2nd seed
thats the barrier. no 1st or 2nd seed, no mvp talks. period.
Mr. Woke
02-13-2021, 10:36 AM
Nope.
hold this L
02-13-2021, 11:33 AM
Curry isn't and shouldn't win MVP unless they finish 3-4th.
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 12:01 PM
Wesbrook's stat-padded triple double had everyone fooled that he was the MVP as the 6th seed back in 2017. He accomplished a statistical feat that hadn't been done in 50 years, and throughout those years it was constantly talked about as being one of the most impressive statistical feats in history. It took that for the voters to overlook him being 6th seed. It was a con job that only happens once in a lifetime. Aside from that, no other player lower than 3rd seed has been named as MVP since the media began voting for the award. Curry has 0 chance unless both the Warriors start winning a ton of games and while a bunch of other teams all start losing a lot of games. It's not going to happen.
The real reason Westbrook got the MVP that year was they wanted an excuse to give it to anyone aside from the best player on the best team that year: Stephen Curry.
Here's an easy narrative to sell if Curry takes this team to the playoffs: the inferior player who is believed by many people to be the greatest floor raiser couldn't take a bad team to the playoffs in the Western Conference but Curry does with the team with the worst record the previous year. There will be zero reason to select the inferior player ahead of Curry.
8Ball
02-13-2021, 01:39 PM
Reason why Steph didn't get MVP in 2017 was because voters saw what happened to a light skin brotha (that doesn't play defense) when a bunch of bigger dark skin dudes flex their muscles.
LeBron put the beatdown on Steph's unanimous MVP season in the finals.
TheGoatest
02-13-2021, 02:02 PM
LOL @ arguing Steph Curry should've won MVP any season while playing with Kevin Durant.
He should be more than happy with his current 2 x MVP resumé because his first MVP from 2014-15 is one of the weakest MVPs of the modern era, alongside the Westbrook, Rose and Nash MVPs.
hold this L
02-13-2021, 03:34 PM
LOL @ arguing Steph Curry should've won MVP any season while playing with Kevin Durant.
He should be more than happy with his current 2 x MVP resumé because his first MVP from 2014-15 is one of the weakest MVPs of the modern era, alongside the Westbrook, Rose and Nash MVPs.
Warriors got 67 wins that year, that's been accomplished once in the entire decade by a team other than the Warriors. Something the guy you stan has never accomplished nor will ever accomplish.
You're an idiot.
TheGoatest
02-13-2021, 06:27 PM
Warriors got 67 wins that year, that's been accomplished once in the entire decade by a team other than the Warriors. Something the guy you stan has never accomplished nor will ever accomplish.
You're an idiot.
Klay Thompson: All-NBA 3rd team that season
Draymond Green: All-defense 1st team that season
Andrew Bogut: All-defense 2nd team that season
Plus they had the guy who went on to win Finals MVP who is neither Steph Curry nor one of the 3 guys above.
Yes, the Warriors most certainly got 67 wins that season. Again, one of the weakest MVPs in the modern era.
Year
MVP
Team Record
Team Win%
Seed
2020
Giannis Antetokounmpo
56-17
0.767
1st
2019
Giannis Antetokounmpo
60-22
0.732
1st
2018
James Harden
65-17
0.793
1st
2017
Russell Westbrook
47-35
0.573
6th
2016
Steph Curry
73-9
0.890
1st
2015
Steph Curry
67-15
0.817
1st
2014
Kevin Durant
59-23
0.720
2nd
2013
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2012
LeBron James
46-20
0.697
2nd
2011
Derick Rose
62-20
0.756
1st
2010
LeBron James
61-21
0.744
1st
2009
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2008
Kobe Bryant
57-25
0.695
1st
2007
Dirk Nowitzki
67-15
0.817
1st
2006
Steve Nash
54-28
0.659
2nd
2005
Steve Nash
62-20
0.756
1st
2004
Kevin Garnett
58-24
0.707
1st
2003
Tim Duncan
60-22
0.732
1st
2002
Tim Duncan
58-24
0.707
2nd
2001
Allen Iverson
56-26
0.683
1st
2000
Shaquille O'neal
67-15
0.817
1st
Only king kong has one each for two different teams
hold this L
02-13-2021, 09:01 PM
Klay Thompson: All-NBA 3rd team that season
Draymond Green: All-defense 1st team that season
Andrew Bogut: All-defense 2nd team that season
Plus they had the guy who went on to win Finals MVP who is neither Steph Curry nor one of the 3 guys above.
Yes, the Warriors most certainly got 67 wins that season. Again, one of the weakest MVPs in the modern era.
You're too stupid to even reason with at this point. Imbecile.
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 09:02 PM
Klay Thompson: All-NBA 3rd team that season
Draymond Green: All-defense 1st team that season
Andrew Bogut: All-defense 2nd team that season
Plus they had the guy who went on to win Finals MVP who is neither Steph Curry nor one of the 3 guys above.
Yes, the Warriors most certainly got 67 wins that season. Again, one of the weakest MVPs in the modern era.
Curry haters keep trying to say what is up is down and what is down is up.
The narrative in your post is based once again on the BULL**** haters have tried to pass off about Curry earlier this season.
It's based on the theory that Curry needed help to carry a team. You still pushing that line after what we've seen this year with an almost completely different and new team?
All those guys from 2015 pretty much got nothing previously in their careers.
The Warriors were +2800 title odds on betting markets at the beginning of the season that year. To give a comparison the Warriors started this year at +3000.
Now we are seeing Steph Curry carrying the absolute worst team from last year to a .500 record and playoffs contention. From 0.23 to 0.50. Curry is worth about 22 wins all on his own. Would his 2015 Warriors teammates gotten all those accolades that year if he didn't play and they had a 45-win season? Not a chance.
Curry haters have been so wrong about Curry that it behooves me to give the correct interpretation of 2015:
Contrary to what haters would have everyone believe, Curry's 2015 season is one of the greatest carry jobs in NBA history. It rivals 1994 Olajuwon and 2011 Nowitzki in bringing an underdog team to a championship. Indeed, objectively speaking it may exceed them.
But the warriors only started to win that much when steve kerr took over the team, right?
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 09:10 PM
But the warriors only started to win that much when steve kerr took over the team, right?
What we learned from the 2020 season: Kerr and Draymond without Steph = last place.
Walk on Water
02-13-2021, 09:12 PM
Curry isn't and shouldn't win MVP unless they finish 3-4th.
If it ended today Steph would be MVP.
What we learned from the 2020 season: Kerr and Draymond without Steph = last place.
Tbh it goes both ways if you think of it.
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 09:19 PM
Tbh it goes both ways if you think of it.
No it doesn't.
TheGoatest
02-13-2021, 10:44 PM
You're too stupid to even reason with at this point. Imbecile.
Translation: I am a moron who got owned and have no retaliation for the argument provided.
Curry haters keep trying to say what is up is down and what is down is up.
The narrative in your post is based once again on the BULL**** haters have tried to pass off about Curry earlier this season.
It's based on the theory that Curry needed help to carry a team. You still pushing that line after what we've seen this year with an almost completely different and new team?
All those guys from 2015 pretty much got nothing previously in their careers.
The Warriors were +2800 title odds on betting markets at the beginning of the season that year. To give a comparison the Warriors started this year at +3000.
Now we are seeing Steph Curry carrying the absolute worst team from last year to a .500 record and playoffs contention. From 0.23 to 0.50. Curry is worth about 22 wins all on his own. Would his 2015 Warriors teammates gotten all those accolades that year if he didn't play and they had a 45-win season? Not a chance.
Curry haters have been so wrong about Curry that it behooves me to give the correct interpretation of 2015:
Contrary to what haters would have everyone believe, Curry's 2015 season is one of the greatest carry jobs in NBA history. It rivals 1994 Olajuwon and 2011 Nowitzki in bringing an underdog team to a championship. Indeed, objectively speaking it may exceed them.
Shit like this is why no one takes you seriously.
TheGoatest
02-13-2021, 11:25 PM
Curry haters keep trying to say what is up is down and what is down is up.
The narrative in your post is based once again on the BULL**** haters have tried to pass off about Curry earlier this season.
It's based on the theory that Curry needed help to carry a team. You still pushing that line after what we've seen this year with an almost completely different and new team?
All those guys from 2015 pretty much got nothing previously in their careers.
The Warriors were +2800 title odds on betting markets at the beginning of the season that year. To give a comparison the Warriors started this year at +3000.
Now we are seeing Steph Curry carrying the absolute worst team from last year to a .500 record and playoffs contention. From 0.23 to 0.50. Curry is worth about 22 wins all on his own. Would his 2015 Warriors teammates gotten all those accolades that year if he didn't play and they had a 45-win season? Not a chance.
Curry haters have been so wrong about Curry that it behooves me to give the correct interpretation of 2015:
Contrary to what haters would have everyone believe, Curry's 2015 season is one of the greatest carry jobs in NBA history. It rivals 1994 Olajuwon and 2011 Nowitzki in bringing an underdog team to a championship. Indeed, objectively speaking it may exceed them.
This dude really called 3 x All-NBA/defensive Teamers + Finals MVP = Hakeem's supporting cast from 1994. :oldlol: "Greatest carry season ever". He couldn't even carry the Finals MVP trophy in his hands when the season was over. And the guy from the losing team was closer to winning it than him.
Why in the world are you mentioning preseason odds when we're discussing how good the Warriors were as a team in 2014-15? What does one have to do with another?
What were the odds that Klay Thompson would be All-NBA 3rd team, Draymond would be All-defense 1st team, Bogut would be All-defense 2nd team and Iguodala would be Finals MVP? Do you have preseason odds for that?
You speak of the 2015 Warriors prior to Curry. Klay and Dray were drafted by the Warriors, so they played with Curry from day 1. Iguodala was an all-star and all-defense teamer. Andrew Bogut was an All-NBA 3rd team with the Bucks. And both were still good in 2014-15. And those two were the #4 and #5 guys on the team.
Curry had been with the Warriors since 2009. They hadn't done jack shyt the first few season he was with them. They only got really good once they got all their pieces next to Curry: Klay, Dray, Iggy, Bogut and the new coach in Kerr.
What we learned from the 2020 season: Kerr and Draymond without Steph = last place.
Klay played last season? You must've been in another parallel universe than me.
The one I was in Klay didn't play a single game whereas Steph still played 5 games with a 1-4 record where all of the losses were blowouts.
Curry aside, the Warriors clearly have better depth this season than they did last season.
BAOSMF21
02-13-2021, 11:25 PM
Maybe if he gets them to the 2 seed, but no way...really see Donovan Mitchell being the MVP, if they continue to win, although they have had as weak a schedule as the Lakers.
DoctorP
02-13-2021, 11:28 PM
If the Warriors make the playoffs without Klay, you have to give it to Curry. He's putting up incredible numbers and has already had a 57 point game and 62 point game. If you don't understand how great he's playing, then you ain't been watching. He had another 10 three pointer game last night. Do you realize that nobody else, even Klay has 4 ten 3 pointer games and Curry has 17?
He's shooting over 43 percent from the 3 point line and over 93 percent from the free throw line. He's averaging 30 points a game. And many times he's being guarded like crazy. The shots he's making look video game-ish. He is shooting just like 2016, but he's also added strength and muscle and is making crazy and one shots.
If you take Curry off the Warriors team, they'd be the worst team in the league.
the mvp usually goes to the best player on the top 1-3 team
Bronbron23
02-13-2021, 11:29 PM
Warriors gonna be 14-13 and steph is sitting on 1-9 from 3 while playing all time shit defense in the biggest game of the season so far. Mvp doe:facepalm
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 11:32 PM
Shit like this is why no one takes you seriously.
2015 Warriors Preseason Odds: Championship +2800
2011 Mavericks Preseason Odds: Championship +2000
1994 Rockets Preseason Odds: Championship +1200
2015 Warriors won a championship at longer odds. That's just how it is.
2015 Warriors Preseason Odds: Championship +2800
2011 Mavericks Preseason Odds: Championship +2000
1994 Rockets Preseason Odds: Championship +1200
2015 Warriors won a championship at longer odds. That's just how it is.
This is literal retard logic.
Bronbron23
02-13-2021, 11:35 PM
2015 Warriors Preseason Odds: Championship +2800
2011 Mavericks Preseason Odds: Championship +2000
1994 Rockets Preseason Odds: Championship +1200
2015 Warriors won a championship at longer odds. That's just how it is.
I wonder how many other underdogs would of won if their opponent lost their 2nd and 3rd best players
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 11:37 PM
I wonder how many other underdogs would of won if their opponent lost their 2nd and 3rd best players
I wonder how many other players would be doubted if they beat the rest of the All-NBA First Team on their way to a championship?
Bronbron23
02-13-2021, 11:47 PM
I wonder how many other players would be doubted if they beat the rest of the All-NBA First Team on their way to a championship?
I know your not taking about 2015 when they beat the amazing pels/ grizzlies and rockets? Please tell me your talking about a different year
I know your nit taking about 2015 when they beat the amazing pels/ grizzlies and rockets? Please tell me your talking about a different year
He’s a troll. He thinks Curry is better than Jordan.
2015 Warriors Preseason Odds: Championship +2800
2011 Mavericks Preseason Odds: Championship +2000
1994 Rockets Preseason Odds: Championship +1200
2015 Warriors won a championship at longer odds. That's just how it is.
Wow it's funny how you act as if the warriors never won 67 games and thus had league hca in the playoffs during that season.
Bronbron23
02-13-2021, 11:53 PM
He’s a troll. He thinks Curry is better than Jordan.
Thing is i Don't even think he's trolling. I think steph fans really believe this shit. We disagree about bron and mj but at least it's close and both guys have great arguments to why they're the best. Steph has no argument whatsoever. It's crazy how much these guys are in denial witn steph.
Stephonit
02-14-2021, 12:01 AM
Thing is i Don't even think he's trolling. I think steph fans really believe this shit. We disagree about bron and mj but at least it's close and both guys have great arguments to why they're the best. Steph has no argument whatsoever. It's crazy how much these guys are in denial witn steph.
You guys are in denial about the inferior player. 1-3 against Curry including getting swept. Hasn't led a team to more than 66 wins despite 18 attempts. Couldn't win his first ring in less tries than Curry either. Couldn't win the franchise that drafted him more rings. Hasn't won without joining another already established superstar.
Curry did better on all the above.
You guys are in denial about the inferior player. 1-3. Hasn't lead a team to more than 66 wins despite 18 attempts. Couldn't win his first ring in less tries than Curry either. Couldn't win the franchise that drafted him more rings. Hasn't won without joining another already established superstar.
Huh who's inferior? Last time i checked, they both have fmvps and iconic playoff moments too.
Stephonit
02-14-2021, 12:03 AM
Huh who's inferior? Last time i checked, they both have fmvps and iconic playoff moments too.
Media manufactured. Compare facts instead of opinions and then you see the truth.
Media manufactured. Compare facts instead of opinions and then you see the truth.
Oh i forgot they didn't have any teens or kids choice awards
I think i can see where you're coming from now huh
imdaman99
02-14-2021, 12:05 AM
Nope this is not a carryjob + narratives like Russ had in 17. And he was superclutch too, especially late in the season.
Bronbron23
02-14-2021, 12:05 AM
You guys are in denial about the inferior player. 1-3 against Curry including getting swept. Hasn't led a team to more than 66 wins despite 18 attempts. Couldn't win his first ring in less tries than Curry either. Couldn't win the franchise that drafted him more rings. Hasn't won without joining another already established superstar.
Bruh Curry needed kd. Yall act like steph and the warriors were a dynasty winning multiple chips before kd. He had one asterisk chip and an epic choke job which lead to his own team losing faith in him because they knew the first chip was a lucky asterisk and they'd never win another one with steph as the best player. Not as long as the best player in the world was in his way.
Stephonit
02-14-2021, 12:10 AM
Bruh Curry needed kd. Yall act like steph and the warriors were a dynasty winning multiple chips before kd. He had one asterisk chip and an epic choke job which lead to his own team losing faith in him because they knew the first chip was a lucky asterisk and they'd never win another one with steph as the best player. Not as long as the best player in the world was in his way.
Riight, he needed KD! LOL! You still believe that dumb narrative? Why not think Lillard is better than Steph too while you're at it? Some people will believe anything the media puts out no matter how far it is from facts.
The inferior player required the league to suspend Green in one game and foul out Curry in another before he could have his best triumph! Impressive!
Stephonit
02-16-2021, 08:46 PM
His chances are going to go up if he keeps playing like he did against the Cavs. Efficient 36 points and sitting out the 4th. 2016 again.
Wouldn't hurt if his teammates could do more of the following too:
https://streamable.com/fvmh3f
Stephonit
02-16-2021, 09:12 PM
Lebron is the MVP.
Please enlighten us on what he is doing that is notable this year.
Stephonit
02-24-2021, 07:21 AM
A smooth 37/6/6 outing versus the Knicks. Nothing terribly fancy but one cannot help but get the feeling one is watching a master at work.
No curry, no problem against the hornets with less than a minute remaining.
Until draymond had to rig it against themselves.
hold this L
02-24-2021, 07:40 AM
A smooth 37/6/6 outing versus the Knicks. Nothing terribly fancy but one cannot help but get the feeling one is watching a master at work.
Needs a much better record though. Can't win MVP with a slightly better .500 record. If they start going on runs for the rest of the season, then yes. They need to win 4-1 for the next 5 matches for that to happen, far too inconsistent.
Bench is a huge blight right now as they are killing leads both in the 2nd and 4th quarter. I wish I knew the solution outside of needing 1-2 new different depth players.
Smoke117
02-24-2021, 07:47 AM
You guys are in denial about the inferior player. 1-3 against Curry including getting swept. Hasn't led a team to more than 66 wins despite 18 attempts. Couldn't win his first ring in less tries than Curry either. Couldn't win the franchise that drafted him more rings. Hasn't won without joining another already established superstar.
Curry did better on all the above.
So you think Curry is greater all time than Lebron?...:roll:
Stephonit
02-24-2021, 08:25 AM
So you think Curry is greater all time than Lebron?...:roll:
Isn't it obvious?
tpols
02-24-2021, 10:18 AM
So you think Curry is greater all time than Lebron?...:roll:
He whooped his ass for almost a decade... so yea.
Smoke117
02-24-2021, 04:41 PM
He whooped his ass for almost a decade... so yea.
Well, I already know you're stupid so it doesn't surprise me you actually believe this, too.
light
02-24-2021, 04:57 PM
If you take Curry off the Warriors team, they'd be the worst team in the league.
Not true.
The Warriors are 0.1 points BETTER than their opponent with Curry off court.
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-24-at-12.46.11-PM.png
Compare that to the Lakers who are -2.6 points WORSE than their opponent with LeBron off court.
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-24-at-12.54.19-PM.png
Net On - Off Curry is only +2.2 whereas LeBron is +11.6.
No contest.
The Lakers are a lottery team without LeBron.
The Lakers were still bad without LeBron even when AD was playing.
LeBron has carried the Lakers to the 2nd best record in the league and is still clearly the MVP.
Well, I already know you're stupid so it doesn't surprise me you actually believe this, too.
He thinks Jason Kidd is better than LeBron :roll:
HBK_Kliq_2
02-24-2021, 05:36 PM
Not true.
The Warriors are 0.1 points BETTER than their opponent with Curry off court.
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-24-at-12.46.11-PM.png
Compare that to the Lakers who are -2.6 points WORSE than their opponent with LeBron off court.
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-24-at-12.54.19-PM.png
Net On - Off Curry is only +2.2 whereas LeBron is +11.6.
No contest.
The Lakers are a lottery team without LeBron.
The Lakers were still bad without LeBron even when AD was playing.
LeBron has carried the Lakers to the 2nd best record in the league and is still clearly the MVP.
and Papa Kawhi is +13.8 the real MVP
Smoke117
02-24-2021, 05:38 PM
and Papa Kawhi is +13.8 the real MVP
Not really. That's barely higher than Paul George's +12.6. George has been too good for Kawhi to be league MVP.
and Papa Kawhi is +13.8 the real MVP
The flaw is the mvp of load management
hold this L
02-24-2021, 10:04 PM
Not true.
The Warriors are 0.1 points BETTER than their opponent with Curry off court.
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-24-at-12.46.11-PM.png
Compare that to the Lakers who are -2.6 points WORSE than their opponent with LeBron off court.
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Screen-Shot-2021-02-24-at-12.54.19-PM.png
Net On - Off Curry is only +2.2 whereas LeBron is +11.6.
No contest.
The Lakers are a lottery team without LeBron.
The Lakers were still bad without LeBron even when AD was playing.
LeBron has carried the Lakers to the 2nd best record in the league and is still clearly the MVP.
Lets see on court without Oubre and see what results you get babyboi.
warriorfan
02-24-2021, 10:34 PM
Lets see on court without Oubre and see what results you get babyboi.
Not a good stat for bron stans to bring up. Steph Curry is the god of on/off numbers. No one in the league comes close to him over the past 5 years. :lol
Kiddlovesnets
02-25-2021, 12:14 AM
Nah his team has a mediocre record, and he’s like the 8-11th best player in current league with Lebron, Durant, Kawhi, Harden, Embiid, Giannis and AD all better than him.
Walk on Water
02-25-2021, 12:16 AM
Nah his team has a mediocre record, and he’s like the 8-11th best player in current league with Lebron, Durant, Kawhi, Harden, Embiid, Giannis and AD all better than him.
That's not true. Curry is having better years than all of those players. You're not watching.
Kiddlovesnets
02-25-2021, 12:18 AM
That's not true. Curry is having better years than all of those players. You're not watching.
Well he takes far more shots to pad his stats, and the team has a mediocre record.
Walk on Water
02-25-2021, 12:20 AM
Well he takes far more shots to pad his stats, and the team has a mediocre record.
You do realize that the Warriors haven't lost more than 2 games in a row all year?
Stephonit
02-25-2021, 02:12 AM
You do realize that the Warriors haven't lost more than 2 games in a row all year?
I wonder if they even realize that the Warriors are currently in the 8th slot in the West the same number of games back from the Jazz as the Nuggets and that if they were in the Eastern Conference they'd have the 4th best record?
Curry is doing this with a team that the previous year was last in the league and that is composed with an almost entirely new cast he has barely played with before this season.
There aren't many precedents for what Curry is currently doing with a previous last place team. Wade's 2009 carry job is probably the closest.
Nah his team has a mediocre record, and he’s like the 8-11th best player in current league with Lebron, Durant, Kawhi, Harden, Embiid, Giannis and AD all better than him.
:cheers:
That's not true. Curry is having better years than all of those players. You're not watching.
You should be grateful he's not using a fake injury as an excuse anymore in this second straight season without klay.
Stephonit
02-25-2021, 08:12 AM
Question: Are the Lakers without Anthony Davis better or worse than the current Warriors?
Turbo Slayer
02-25-2021, 08:12 AM
Question: Are the Lakers without Anthony Davis better or worse than the current Warriors? Hello stupid. Still trolling? I'm not surprised.
Question: Are the Lakers without Anthony Davis better or worse than the current Warriors?
Well at least bran has made the finals without ad.
Otoh how 'bout curry without klay? Let that sink inside your head for a while.
Stephonit
02-25-2021, 08:19 AM
Hello stupid. Still trolling? I'm not surprised.
There are poor hapless souls out there that still believe that on a level playing field the inferior player is actually better than Curry?
Stephonit
02-25-2021, 08:27 AM
Well at least bran has made the finals without ad.
Otoh how 'bout curry without klay? Let that sink inside your head for a while.
Curry won a championship with Klay as his best teammate. Let that sink inside your head for a while.
Curry won a championship with Klay as his best teammate. Let that sink inside your head for a while.
So in other words, no klay, no play? :confusedshrug:
Nice self ether btw.
Turbo Slayer
02-25-2021, 08:35 AM
Curry won a championship with Klay as his best teammate. Let that sink inside your head for a while. Every championship needs elite teammates.
Hate to say it but Bron had AD, Playoff Rondo, Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, and Love. Curry had Draymond, Klay, Iguodala, and KD. I could go on with every freaking ATG entire careers.
You are not doing Curry any favors when you troll.
Sorry about calling you a idiot, my bad.
Stephonit
02-25-2021, 08:38 AM
So in other words, no klay, no play? :confusedshrug:
Nice self ether btw.
Self-ether? You think Klay > Pippen? Klay > Wade? Klay > Shaq? Klay > Kareem?
But I just realized that maybe the concept involved is too complicated for you. Self-ether, whatever.
Self-ether? You think Klay > Pippen? Klay > Wade? Klay > Shaq? Klay > Kareem?
But I just realized that maybe the concept involved is too complicated for you. Self-ether, whatever.
Huh. I never implied any of that lmao.
Stephonit
02-25-2021, 08:41 AM
Every championship needs elite teammates.
Hate to say it but Bron had AD, Playoff Rondo, Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, and Love. Curry had Draymond, Klay, Iguodala, and KD. I could go on with every freaking ATG entire careers.
You are not doing Curry any favors when you troll.
Sorry about calling you a idiot, my bad.
There is no trolling going on. That you would assume so just shows how stuck your thinking has become inside the media morass. Draymond, Klay, Iguodala and KD? Did any of them win a championship before teaming up with Curry? No.
There is no trolling going on. That you would assume so just shows how stuck your thinking has become inside the media morass. Draymond, Klay, Iguodala and KD? Did any of them win a championship before teaming up with Curry? No.
Kd didn't but at least he went to the finals first with a young squad and were even on the verge of another trip there with his first team during the 2016 wcf. That is until he blew it all up.
k0kakw0rld
02-25-2021, 01:21 PM
What? 30 points per game 43 pct 3s. 13 games in a row with 4 or more 3s. Warriors would be the worst team in the league without him.
SHUT THE FK UP. Whether yo say it or nah. It isn't going to happen.
Stephonit
02-25-2021, 01:46 PM
If Curry takes this ragtag group to the playoffs in the Western Conference wouldn't that be yet another thing that he has done that the inferior player couldn't? Wouldn't it then be plausible to argue that Curry is a better floor raiser?
hold this L
02-25-2021, 01:49 PM
If Curry takes this ragtag group to the playoffs in the Western Conference wouldn't that be yet another thing that he has done that the inferior player couldn't? Wouldn't it then be plausible to argue that Curry is a better floor raiser?
If they stay fit, I think they will finish around 6th this season, maybe 5th if some teams like the Suns/Blazers can't keep their first half of the season form all throughout. Defensively the team is sound, they have an identity as a scrappy fighter team. Need to release the Chef offensively a bit more, as last night his game was tailored to defend rather than go all out.
No defense for that terrible shooting, but Kerr has to find a balance there.
tontoz
02-25-2021, 07:14 PM
GS would currently be the 4th seed in the East at 18-15. Just sayin.
If Curry takes this ragtag group to the playoffs in the Western Conference wouldn't that be yet another thing that he has done that the inferior player couldn't? Wouldn't it then be plausible to argue that Curry is a better floor raiser?
:facepalm
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