View Full Version : Why are media awards biased against great teams?
Stephonit
02-13-2021, 01:27 AM
Despite the Jazz leading the league, the media doesn't recognize an MVP candidate on their team. Despite the Warriors being the greatest team of all-time the media didn't recognize a player on that team as MVP.
Are MVP awards slanted towards players on teams with mediocre team play?
Nike D'Antoni
02-13-2021, 01:38 AM
Year
MVP
Team Record
Team Win%
Seed
2020
Giannis Antetokounmpo
56-17
0.767
1st
2019
Giannis Antetokounmpo
60-22
0.732
1st
2018
James Harden
65-17
0.793
1st
2017
Russell Westbrook
47-35
0.573
6th
2016
Steph Curry
73-9
0.890
1st
2015
Steph Curry
67-15
0.817
1st
2014
Kevin Durant
59-23
0.720
2nd
2013
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2012
LeBron James
46-20
0.697
2nd
2011
Derick Rose
62-20
0.756
1st
2010
LeBron James
61-21
0.744
1st
2009
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2008
Kobe Bryant
57-25
0.695
1st
2007
Dirk Nowitzki
67-15
0.817
1st
2006
Steve Nash
54-28
0.659
2nd
2005
Steve Nash
62-20
0.756
1st
2004
Kevin Garnett
58-24
0.707
1st
2003
Tim Duncan
60-22
0.732
1st
2002
Tim Duncan
58-24
0.707
2nd
2001
Allen Iverson
56-26
0.683
1st
2000
Shaquille O'neal
67-15
0.817
1st
Nike D'Antoni
02-13-2021, 01:39 AM
You have to be number one or number two seed to win NBA league MVP.
Right now its Lakers/Jazz/Sixers/Bucks.
Year
MVP
Team Record
Team Win%
Seed
2020
Giannis Antetokounmpo
56-17
0.767
1st
2019
Giannis Antetokounmpo
60-22
0.732
1st
2018
James Harden
65-17
0.793
1st
2017
Russell Westbrook
47-35
0.573
6th
2016
Steph Curry
73-9
0.890
1st
2015
Steph Curry
67-15
0.817
1st
2014
Kevin Durant
59-23
0.720
2nd
2013
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2012
LeBron James
46-20
0.697
2nd
2011
Derick Rose
62-20
0.756
1st
2010
LeBron James
61-21
0.744
1st
2009
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2008
Kobe Bryant
57-25
0.695
1st
2007
Dirk Nowitzki
67-15
0.817
1st
2006
Steve Nash
54-28
0.659
2nd
2005
Steve Nash
62-20
0.756
1st
2004
Kevin Garnett
58-24
0.707
1st
2003
Tim Duncan
60-22
0.732
1st
2002
Tim Duncan
58-24
0.707
2nd
2001
Allen Iverson
56-26
0.683
1st
2000
Shaquille O'neal
67-15
0.817
1st
It would have been useful if you indicated which teams they played for during those seasons.
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2021, 02:41 AM
You have to be number one or number two seed to win NBA league MVP.
Right now its Lakers/Jazz/Sixers/Bucks.
and the Jazz have no MVP candidates supposedly :lol
J Shuttlesworth
02-13-2021, 02:54 AM
and the Jazz have no MVP candidates supposedly :lol
Probably because nobody on the team statistically has a case for MVP over someone like LeBron or Embiid
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2021, 02:59 AM
Probably because nobody on the team statistically has a case for MVP over someone like LeBron or Embiid
but they have a case over many others being talked about
SouBeachTalents
02-13-2021, 03:01 AM
Year
MVP
Team Record
Team Win%
Seed
2020
Giannis Antetokounmpo
56-17
0.767
1st
2019
Giannis Antetokounmpo
60-22
0.732
1st
2018
James Harden
65-17
0.793
1st
2017
Russell Westbrook
47-35
0.573
6th
2016
Steph Curry
73-9
0.890
1st
2015
Steph Curry
67-15
0.817
1st
2014
Kevin Durant
59-23
0.720
2nd
2013
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2012
LeBron James
46-20
0.697
2nd
2011
Derick Rose
62-20
0.756
1st
2010
LeBron James
61-21
0.744
1st
2009
LeBron James
66-16
0.805
1st
2008
Kobe Bryant
57-25
0.695
1st
2007
Dirk Nowitzki
67-15
0.817
1st
2006
Steve Nash
54-28
0.659
2nd
2005
Steve Nash
62-20
0.756
1st
2004
Kevin Garnett
58-24
0.707
1st
2003
Tim Duncan
60-22
0.732
1st
2002
Tim Duncan
58-24
0.707
2nd
2001
Allen Iverson
56-26
0.683
1st
2000
Shaquille O'neal
67-15
0.817
1st
/thread
SouBeachTalents
02-13-2021, 03:02 AM
It would have been useful if you indicated which teams they played for during those seasons.
What the fck :oldlol:
What the fck :oldlol:
Sorry not sorry
SouBeachTalents
02-13-2021, 03:05 AM
Sorry not sorry
You don't have to be sorry, just an idiotic thing to say
You don't have to be sorry, just an idiotic thing to say
Just forget i said anything like that, even if there are many casuals here who don't care that much anyway.
light
02-13-2021, 03:42 AM
Who would win MVP on the Jazz? Donovan Mitchell? Give me a break. Rudy Gobert? Please.
They're a good team but nobody stands out on an MVP level. Their lack of that MVP guy is what they're going to be missing in the playoffs.
Steph and KD cancelled eachother out. They were two recent MVPs on the same team together and how could anyone determine which one was most valuable?
Callystarr
02-13-2021, 04:36 AM
Who would win MVP on the Jazz? Donovan Mitchell? Give me a break. Rudy Gobert? Please.
They're a good team but nobody stands out on an MVP level. Their lack of that MVP guy is what they're going to be missing in the playoffs.
Steph and KD cancelled eachother out. They were two recent MVPs on the same team together and how could anyone determine which one was most valuable?
By your logic Detroit in 2004, San Antonio in 2014 had no chance of winning
iamgine
02-13-2021, 05:20 AM
Despite the Jazz leading the league, the media doesn't recognize an MVP candidate on their team. Despite the Warriors being the greatest team of all-time the media didn't recognize a player on that team as MVP.
Are MVP awards slanted towards players on teams with mediocre team play?
Because leading the league and MVP are a different thing.
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2021, 05:55 AM
Who would win MVP on the Jazz? Donovan Mitchell? Give me a break. Rudy Gobert? Please.
They're a good team but nobody stands out on an MVP level. Their lack of that MVP guy is what they're going to be missing in the playoffs.
Steph and KD cancelled eachother out. They were two recent MVPs on the same team together and how could anyone determine which one was most valuable?
No one said they would win it. Conley and Gobert should be mentioned.
Kblaze8855
02-13-2021, 09:23 AM
No one said they would win it. Conley and Gobert should be mentioned.
No. They shouldn’t. Borderline 2015 Hawks situation. Nobody on that team should get a single vote. Not even 5th place.
Jokic might come in 5th or 6th doing 27/11/9. A great record with an obvious ensemble cast doesn’t offset legendary seasons. Especially not when some have legendary seasons and a great record.
No. They shouldn’t. Borderline 2015 Hawks situation. Nobody on that team should get a single vote. Not even 5th place.
Jokic might come in 5th or 6th doing 27/11/9. A great record with an obvious ensemble cast doesn’t offset legendary seasons. Especially not when some have legendary seasons and a great record.
Imagine Jokic coming in under Gobert, Conley, Mitchell. That was would cringe worthy.
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2021, 09:48 AM
Earvin Magic Johnson
@MagicJohnson (https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson)
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Feb 9 (https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1359152652098109449)
The Tier One MVP candidates are LeBron James, Steph Curry, Joel Embiid, KD, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Luka Dončić, Nikola Jokić, and Kawhi Leonard.
Earvin Magic Johnson
@MagicJohnson (https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson)
·
Feb 9 (https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1359152805823537154)
Tier Two MVP candidates are Jaylen Brown, Damian Lillard, AD, Paul George, Jayson Tatum, and Bradley Beal.
Kblaze8855
02-13-2021, 10:38 AM
Problem? Whoever the best player on the Jazz is....he’s the worst or second worst player if included on the above list.
clipps
02-13-2021, 10:45 AM
It would have been useful if you indicated which teams they played for during those seasons.
You can't figure that shit out yourself? Moron?:facepalm
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2021, 03:11 PM
Problem? Whoever the best player on the Jazz is....he’s the worst or second worst player if included on the above list.
MVP isn't all NBA or all star. If Beal was so great don't you think Washington would win a game occasionally? 6 wins. How many do they have without Beal. :roll:
You don't have to be sorry, just an idiotic thing to say
Typical Axe. Dude just babbles incoherently.
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Ofc i am your dup. No wonder i got that talent from you to 'babble incoherently'. :rolleyes:
Btw get a grip lmao. It must've sucked to be a life-long bitter sore loser to the point that you're only good at being a condescending scum to posters you disagree with in a board like this. :oldlol:
But whatever makes you sleep at night i guess.
You can't figure that shit out yourself? Moron?:facepalm
At least it will allow everybody to see that lebron is the only one in the list that had mvps in two different teams, you buffoon.
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