2005-2007 Spurs replace Duncan with Gobert and still win rings?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1=goberru01&p1yrfrom=2017&p1yrto=2021&player_id2=duncati01&p2yrfrom=2005&p2yrto=2008

Gobert 2017-present

Vs

Tim Duncan 2005-2008

Gobert is putting up 14 points, 12 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 51 win shares in 10254 minutes

Duncan is putting up 19 points, 11 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 46 win shares in 10364 minutes

Gobert has more rebounds, more blocks, more win shares despite less minutes. You give Gobert the great offensive backcourt of Parker/Manu and they win rings in those years I think.

[aj1987]

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1=goberru01&p1yrfrom=2017&p1yrto=2021&player_id2=duncati01&p2yrfrom=2005&p2yrto=2008

Gobert 2017-present

Vs

Tim Duncan 2005-2008

Gobert is putting up 14 points, 12 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 51 win shares in 10254 minutes

Duncan is putting up 19 points, 11 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 46 win shares in 10364 minutes

Gobert has more rebounds, more blocks, more win shares despite less minutes. You give Gobert the great offensive backcourt of Parker/Manu and they win rings in those years I think.

That's cause you're a ****ing retard. :cheers:

[FireDavidKahn]

Ehh, idk. You could give Duncan the ball and he'd go get a bucket. Gobert is insanely efficient but he mostly gets his points via pick and roll dump offs or put backs. You can't really give Gobert the ball and have him create a basket for the most part.

[hold this L]

Imagine comparing Gobert that gets destroyed in the playoffs against one of the most ice cold playoff performers in the history of the game.

[clipps]

****ing retard.

[Kblaze8855]

You just get worse and worse.

[And1AllDay]

wrong


next question

[JohnMax]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-western-conference-first-round-spurs-vs-clippers.html

38 year old Duncan averaged 17.9 ppg in 1st round of 2015 playoffs

[r0drig0lac]

vomit

[Uncle Drew]

You just get worse and worse.

Then do something about it, ****ing hell.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Imagine comparing Gobert that gets destroyed in the playoffs against one of the most ice cold playoff performers in the history of the game.

I bet its a nice luxury to average 12PPG for 3 straight finals wins and win the title like 2014 Duncan did.

I bet it's a nice luxury to throw up bricks all finals in 2005 and still win finals mvp like Duncan did.

2007 throws up bricks again and still sweeps.

You get the idea. Gobert can do a lot of these things. He may not have quite the post moves that Duncan did but giving Manu more touches is always a good thing.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You just get worse and worse.

It's just my theory. I'm not going to snap on anybody if they disagree.

[rmt]

I bet its a nice luxury to average 12PPG for 3 straight finals wins and win the title like 2014 Duncan did.

I bet its a nice luxury to average 15PPG for 3 straight finals games, win the title like 2014 Kawhi AND carry home the FMVP trophy.



I bet it's a nice luxury to throw up bricks all finals in 2005 and still win finals mvp like Duncan did.

I didn't know that averaging 20.6 pts 14.1 rebs 2.1 asst 2.1 blks against a great defensive team is throwing up bricks all finals.




2007 throws up bricks again and still sweeps.

You get the idea. Gobert can do a lot of these things. He may not have quite the post moves that Duncan did but giving Manu more touches is always a good thing.

You really are over the top with your Duncan hate to build up Kawhi. The better question is how did they give Gobert 2 DPOY awards and Duncan none?

[tpols]

They were a rig/hair away from being beat by the Suns, another hair away from being beat by the Pistons, and lost to the Mavericks. So even if you think the difference between Gobert and Duncan is slim (which is crazy) they still needed every bit of that gap to win.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I bet its a nice luxury to average 15PPG for 3 straight finals games, win the title like 2014 Kawhi AND carry home the FMVP trophy.




I didn't know that averaging 20.6 pts 14.1 rebs 2.1 asst 2.1 blks against a great defensive team is throwing up bricks all finals.




You really are over the top with your Duncan hate to build up Kawhi. The better question is how did they give Gobert 2 DPOY awards and Duncan none?

In the 3 straight wins over heat in 2014 finals, kawhi doubled Duncan's PPG (24 to 12).

I guess you learned your lesson after not giving kawhi the ball enough in 2013 huh.

2005/2007 finals duncan's efficiency was shit. Matter a fact, 2005 Duncan entire playoffs advanced stats suck for an all time great player.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

They were a rig/hair away from being beat by the Suns, another hair away from being beat by the Pistons, and lost to the Mavericks. So even if you think the difference between Gobert and Duncan is slim (which is crazy) they still needed every bit of that gap to win.

Yeah suns would of beat them if there players were suspended. So i expect their players to be suspended when Tim Gobert is playing as well? I don't see suns winning. Manu destroyed suns in the close out game and all Duncan did was block shots like he was Gobert.

Pistons series Manu was destroying them and him getting more shots would of been better for spurs offense. Gobert would of gave Manu more shots and ended the series sooner.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-western-conference-first-round-spurs-vs-clippers.html

38 year old Duncan averaged 17.9 ppg in 1st round of 2015 playoffs

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2011-nba-western-conference-first-round-grizzlies-vs-spurs.html

34 year old Duncan averaged 12 PPG. I can do that too. How did that 1st round exit from an 8th seed taste? Be happy you drafted kawhi right after

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Gobert has won the last 17/18 games and he's playing with a worse version of Parker/Manu in Conley/Mitchell. Alright, so that's where my theory came from. This 2020-21 jazz team probably wins the title in 2005/2007 if they replaced spurs, that was an era that had no super teams.

[light]

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1=goberru01&p1yrfrom=2017&p1yrto=2021&player_id2=duncati01&p2yrfrom=2005&p2yrto=2008

Gobert 2017-present

Vs

Tim Duncan 2005-2008

Gobert is putting up 14 points, 12 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 51 win shares in 10254 minutes

Duncan is putting up 19 points, 11 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 46 win shares in 10364 minutes

Gobert has more rebounds, more blocks, more win shares despite less minutes. You give Gobert the great offensive backcourt of Parker/Manu and they win rings in those years I think.

Gobert isn't anywhere near as good as Duncan though.

[light]

Gobert has won the last 17/18 games and he's playing with a worse version of Parker/Manu in Conley/Mitchell. Alright, so that's where my theory came from.

Yeah, see the thing is that they're not equal to the Spurs dynasty for having won 17 of 18 games in the regular season.

They had an 11 game win streak, lost a game, then a 6 game win streak.

That's not historically significant.

Nobody in Utah is popping champagne over that like you are.

[Xiao Yao You]

Ehh, idk. You could give Duncan the ball and he'd go get a bucket. Gobert is insanely efficient but he mostly gets his points via pick and roll dump offs or put backs. You can't really give Gobert the ball and have him create a basket for the most part.

Not hard to imagine Parker and especially Ginobli doing a lot more scoring though. Gobert would have done more if that was he was developed to do as well. His kob has been to rim run and dunk and he's done it better than anyone

[RRR3]

Not hard to imagine Parker and especially Ginobli doing a lot more scoring though. Gobert would have done more if that was he was developed to do as well. His kob has been to rim run and dunk and he's done it better than anyone
If Gobert was capable of developing an efficient post game he’d have done it by now. Even you can’t think Rudy could replicate what Duncan did :wtf:

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert has won the last 17/18 games and he's playing with a worse version of Parker/Manu in Conley/Mitchell. Alright, so that's where my theory came from. This 2020-21 jazz team probably wins the title in 2005/2007 if they replaced spurs, that was an era that had no super teams.

Conley is better than Parker. Ginobli was special

[Xiao Yao You]

If Gobert was capable of developing an efficient post game he’d have done it by now. Even you can’t think Rudy could replicate what Duncan did :wtf:

He hasn't been working on developing one. They don't want post ups. They want 3's and dunks

[Real Men Wear Green]

Tim Duncan is one if the greatest bigs of all time, uncontested top pf. Rudy Gobert is very good.

[Xiao Yao You]

Tim Duncan is one if the greatest bigs of all time, uncontested top pf. Rudy Gobert is very good.

Duncan was a center no matter what they chose to call him

[pandiani17]

What's this question? lol

[Kblaze8855]

People are the position they play no matter what you think they should be. In the plays generally run in their sets in his prime he was the 4. End of story.

[Axe]

Op acting like baggy biyombo has been an all-star already for five years in a row

[Mauzah]

One of the worst threads I have ever seen.

[Xiao Yao You]

Op acting like baggy biyombo has been an all-star already for five years in a row

been one of the best players in the league for more than 6

[RRR3]

been one of the best players in the league for more than 6
Why are you avoiding my thread?

[Axe]

been one of the best players in the league for more than 6
Need more proof. We'll see about that when the jazz face the lakers this feb. 24 and then later in the playoffs.

[Xiao Yao You]

Need more proof. We'll see about that when the jazz face the lakers this feb. 24 and then later in the playoffs.

Lakers and Sixers comig up are certainly the big tests. Just don't have the size to match up and who do they hide Bojan and Mitchell on?

[GOBB]

Stupid thread. Rudy is not helping them win a title in place of Duncan. Let’s stop the foolishness

[LBJ]

Safe to say, you haven't seen Duncan. The dude was feasting on young Chris Bosh at age 37. In game 6 of the NBA Finals, Duncan scored 25 points on 11-for-13 shooting and grabbed 8 rebounds in half time.

[SouBeachTalents]

They don't win a single ring