Ray: Bran is a product of MJ, anybody saying hes GOAT is growing up now (zoomer)

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

"Question: Who would you say is the GOAT, then?

RA: In my opinion, M.J. is the GOAT. LeBron is a product of M.J., so a lot of what’s in LeBron — in his DNA — comes from Michael. For anybody that says that LeBron is the GOAT, they’re growing up in today’s era, and they believe what they believe based on how it feels and what he means to them, and that’s OK. But the way M.J. affected the game, man, he had a stranglehold on the league and he struck fear in everyone because he was an unstoppable player."

Another one of Brans teammates. And another player more in his era than MJs damn. It must be like 90/10 MJ now we remember that poll.

Ray basically say its a zoomer opinion hes right TBH.

Trolling aside and being objective Bran aint even top 5

Whats crazy is Rays statement might be true biologically too since we dont know what that lil freak Gloria was doing or who in her days :oldlol:

[dbugz]

Dwyane Wade says LeBron James can never be greater than Michael Jordan (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dwyane-wade-says-lebron-james-can-never-be-greater-than-michael-jordan/)

Carmelo Anthony wasn’t comfortable with the question, but he acknowledges there is just one basketball GOAT — Michael Jordan (https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/carmelo-anthony-weighs-in-on-michael-jordan-lebron-james-goat-debate/)

Mike Malone: Killer Mentality Made Michael Jordan Better Than LeBron James (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887907-michael-malone-killer-mentality-made-michael-jordan-better-than-lebron-james)

Mario Chalmers And JR Smith Say Michael Jordan Is The GOAT (https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/05/05/mario-chalmers-and-jr-smith-say-michael-jordan-is-the-goat/)

Udonis Haslem, former LeBron James teammate, says Michael Jordan is the GOAT (https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/udonis-haslem-former-lebron-james-teammate-says-michael-jordan-goat/551975)

Ray Allen still takes Michael Jordan over LeBron James as the greatest of all time (https://clutchpoints.com/nba-news-ray-allen-still-takes-michael-jordan-over-lebron-james-as-the-greatest-of-all-time/)

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[FultzNationRISE]

Yo, Ray Allen is seriously gonna get himself a damn ass beating if he doesnt start keeping his mouth shut.

Im gettin sick of this fool poppin off about shit he doesnt understand.

He’s on notice.

[warriorfan]

"Question: Who would you say is the GOAT, then?

RA: In my opinion, M.J. is the GOAT. LeBron is a product of M.J., so a lot of what’s in LeBron — in his DNA — comes from Michael. For anybody that says that LeBron is the GOAT, they’re growing up in today’s era, and they believe what they believe based on how it feels and what he means to them, and that’s OK. But the way M.J. affected the game, man, he had a stranglehold on the league and he struck fear in everyone because he was an unstoppable player."

Another one of Brans teammates. And another player more in his era than MJs damn. It must be like 90/10 MJ now we remember that poll.

Ray basically say its a zoomer opinion hes right TBH.

Trolling aside and being objective Bran aint even top 5

Whats crazy is Rays statement might be true biologically too since we dont know what that lil freak Gloria was doing or who in her days :oldlol:

:oldlol:

Gloria has collected DNA from over half of the NBA going back to the early 80’s.

[TheGoatest]

LeBron haters reducing themselves to an argument which can be used to claim that Dr. J. is better than Jordan.

Anyone who says that Jordan is greater than LeBron has some emotional or nostalgic investment in Jordan.

[Airupthere]

"Question: Who would you say is the GOAT, then?

RA: In my opinion, M.J. is the GOAT. LeBron is a product of M.J., so a lot of what’s in LeBron — in his DNA — comes from Michael. For anybody that says that LeBron is the GOAT, they’re growing up in today’s era, and they believe what they believe based on how it feels and what he means to them, and that’s OK. But the way M.J. affected the game, man, he had a stranglehold on the league and he struck fear in everyone because he was an unstoppable player."

Another one of Brans teammates. And another player more in his era than MJs damn. It must be like 90/10 MJ now we remember that poll.

Ray basically say its a zoomer opinion hes right TBH.

Trolling aside and being objective Bran aint even top 5

Whats crazy is Rays statement might be true biologically too since we dont know what that lil freak Gloria was doing or who in her days :oldlol:

Whoomp there it is! :banana:

[Mauzah]

But hey guys Laimbeer and Zeke say Lebron is the GOAT so it must be true

:roll:

[FultzNationRISE]

But hey guys Laimbeer and Zeke say Lebron is the GOAT so it must be true

:roll:


Pretty sure those two know an awful lot about basketball you ****ing cawksucker, ILL ****ING KILL YOU

[Airupthere]

But hey guys Laimbeer and Zeke say Lebron is the GOAT so it must be true

:roll:

And I’m sure they’re the least biased people on this subject :roll:

[JohnMax]

Team hopper can't even successfully win majority of his team hopped rings. Dude ain't even top 20 all-time player if we're being honest. But corporate media has a hidden agenda to promote this fraud.

[8Ball]

All the old farts have MJ nolstalgia. Good thing they are dying one by one.

MJ's career is just way too short compared to LeBron's.

18 great years vs 13.

[zeerghit]

Team hopper can't even successfully win majority of his team hopped rings. Dude ain't even top 20 all-time player if we're being honest. But corporate media has a hidden agenda to promote this fraud.

please tell us 20 better players

[8Ball]

please tell us 20 better players

LeBron year 17 = Better than peak Magic Johnson.

[FultzNationRISE]

All the old farts have MJ nolstalgia. Good thing they are dying one by one.

MJ's career is just way too short compared to LeBron's.

18 great years vs 13.


IT AINT THE ONLY THING


:dancin :banana: :hammertime: :banana: :dancin

[Airupthere]

Team hopper can't even successfully win majority of his team hopped rings. Dude ain't even top 20 all-time player if we're being honest. But corporate media has a hidden agenda to promote this fraud.

2/4 with a superteam. Can’t even do 1 3peat.

[Mauzah]

Pretty sure those two know an awful lot about basketball you ****ing cawksucker, ILL ****ING KILL YOU

Jesus man seek help :oldlol:

[jlip]

It's conceivable to agree with Ray's conclusion while considering the rationale for his conclusion to be completely faulty and deficient. Using Ray's logic, MJ couldn't be the GOAT either because he's the product of players that preceded him. Oscar Robertson basically invented, or at least popularized, the fade away jumper. MJ, himself, stated that he patterned his high flying acrobatic style of play after David Thompson and Dr. J.

Again, the conclusion that MJ may be the GOAT is reasonable, but the argument provided for saying so is foolish as it disqualifies MJ from the conversation.

[BigKobeFan]

Dwyane Wade says LeBron James can never be greater than Michael Jordan (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dwyane-wade-says-lebron-james-can-never-be-greater-than-michael-jordan/)

Carmelo Anthony wasn’t comfortable with the question, but he acknowledges there is just one basketball GOAT — Michael Jordan (https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/carmelo-anthony-weighs-in-on-michael-jordan-lebron-james-goat-debate/)

Mike Malone: Killer Mentality Made Michael Jordan Better Than LeBron James (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887907-michael-malone-killer-mentality-made-michael-jordan-better-than-lebron-james)

Mario Chalmers And JR Smith Say Michael Jordan Is The GOAT (https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/05/05/mario-chalmers-and-jr-smith-say-michael-jordan-is-the-goat/)

Udonis Haslem, former LeBron James teammate, says Michael Jordan is the GOAT (https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/udonis-haslem-former-lebron-james-teammate-says-michael-jordan-goat/551975)

Ray Allen still takes Michael Jordan over LeBron James as the greatest of all time (https://clutchpoints.com/nba-news-ray-allen-still-takes-michael-jordan-over-lebron-james-as-the-greatest-of-all-time/)

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This generation is lame...its a stomach chop instead of a crouch chop.

[light]

Ray Allen doesn’t realize that the same thing applies to MJ and Dr. J and to him and MJ.

“For anybody that says that Jordan is the GOAT, they grew up in his era, and they believe what they believe based on how it felt and what he meant to them, and that's OK.”

Another thing Ray Allen fails to realize is that a lot of people his age - people who grew up watching Michael Jordan like he did - a lot of those people are now LeBron James stans.

That's one of the biggest problems Jordan has - that a chunk of his supporters have jumped over to LeBron.

It's one reason why MJ's GOAT market share keeps dwindling.

To wit:

Daryl Morey grew up in Michael Jordan's era.

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[HighFlyer23]

The MJ corporate and league and media backing in the 80s and 90s was the first for any athlete.

Of course enough people were programmed to believe he was the greatest thing since apple pie. Other athletes promoted themselves or let their own abilities serve as marketing.

[Axe]

He still has an edge in terms of longevity

[Chick Stern]

MJ ain’t the GOAT, and RA is continually butt hurt about other SGs.

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron isn't even better than me. I've dominated him in the playoffs. Ray Allen also has the right to say what he wants he saved Lebron's legacy.

[Axe]

Lebron isn't even better than me. I've dominated him in the playoffs. Ray Allen also has the right to say what he wants he saved Lebron's legacy.
:oldlol:

[sdot_thadon]

It's conceivable to agree with Ray's conclusion while considering the rationale for his conclusion to be completely faulty and deficient. Using Ray's logic, MJ couldn't be the GOAT either because he's the product of players that preceded him. Oscar Robertson basically invented, or at least popularized, the fade away jumper. MJ, himself, stated that he patterned his high flying acrobatic style of play after David Thompson and Dr. J.

Again, the conclusion that MJ may be the GOAT is reasonable, but the argument provided for saying so is foolish as it disqualifies MJ from the conversation.


LeBron haters reducing themselves to an argument which can be used to claim that Dr. J. is better than Jordan.

Anyone who says that Jordan is greater than LeBron has some emotional or nostalgic investment in Jordan.

Thread pretty much chokes on Mjs **** and dies after these posts.

[nayte]

The thread dies because of hurt LeBron stans who makes essays because someone has a different opinion then you. The delusion is funny with you lot

[kawhileonard2]

LeBron haters reducing themselves to an argument which can be used to claim that Dr. J. is better than Jordan.

Anyone who says that Jordan is greater than LeBron has some emotional or nostalgic investment in Jordan.

The GOAT"s in every sport have turned franchise that never won anything into dynasties. Who did Lebron turn into a dynasty?

MJ, Brady, Montana, Babe Ruth all turned franchises into dynasties. Lebron had to leave the franchise that drafted him in order to win and had to join someone who won as the man.

[2much_knowledge]

Lebron is still so far behind of Mj that its absolutely hilarious that people fall for the Nba and media trick of digging miscellaneous records and stats to make ignorants and youngins believe they could be watching the best ever to make profit and views and people fall for it lolololol. Its pathetic.

[3ball]

LeBron haters reducing themselves to an argument which can be used to claim that Dr. J. is better than Jordan.

Anyone who says that Jordan is greater than LeBron has some emotional or nostalgic investment in Jordan.


the stats and performance show Jordan was far superior

just like everyone else in history, lebron needs an equal-scoring teammate for half his rings (1b).. Lebron can't win with a true 2nd option that scores far less in the championship

[Smoke117]

What does that even mean, a product of MJ? LeBron pretty much plays nothing like Jordan did. If you said that about Kobe then that would be obvious as he literally tried to imitate him down to a T, but LeBron? Just an odd thing to say.

[TheGoatest]

What does that even mean, a product of MJ? LeBron pretty much plays nothing like Jordan did. If you said that about Kobe then that would be obvious as he literally tried to imitate him down to a T, but LeBron? Just an odd thing to say.

It basically means: "Jordan played before LeBron and that is our argument as to why Jordan is greater than LeBron." The same thing that can be said about Jordan in relation to Dr. J.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Yo, Ray Allen is seriously gonna get himself a damn ass beating if he doesnt start keeping his mouth shut.

Im gettin sick of this fool poppin off about shit he doesnt understand.

He’s on notice.

What about Kuz and THT?

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[kawhileonard2]

Ray Allen is a wise man.

[light]

LeBron is not just a product of MJ. He's a product of everyone that has come before him, just like Jordan was.

[kawhileonard2]

LeBron is not just a product of MJ. He's a product of everyone that has come before him, just like Jordan was.

Considering Lebron never managed to win a gold medal without Kobe I'm going to say he is a coward for leaving an organization that drafted him and him never winning with them until he went back to form a superteam.

[And1AllDay]

All the old farts have MJ nolstalgia. Good thing they are dying one by one.

MJ's career is just way too short compared to LeBron's.

18 great years vs 13.


IT AINT THE ONLY THING


:dancin :banana: :hammertime: :banana: :dancin

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang !

[Ainosterhaspie]

What does that even mean, a product of MJ? LeBron pretty much plays nothing like Jordan did. If you said that about Kobe then that would be obvious as he literally tried to imitate him down to a T, but LeBron? Just an odd thing to say.

Yep. Makes no sense. Nothing else he says makes sense either, but especially that. There's almost nothing about LeBron's game that is like Jordan's. I honestly can't think of a single thing he does like Jordan on the floor.

[And1AllDay]

ray allen still hurt he only won 1 ring with the boston big 3 becos of bran :oldlol:

[kawhileonard2]

All the old farts have MJ nolstalgia. Good thing they are dying one by one.

MJ's career is just way too short compared to LeBron's.

18 great years vs 13.

Despite that more league mvp's, finals mvp's, dynasties, no bronze medals than Lebron and did so for the franchise that drafted him while Lebron formed superteams and hopped from team to team. What a fraud Lebron is.

[mehyaM24]

Yep. Makes no sense. Nothing else he says makes sense either, but especially that. There's almost nothing about LeBron's game that is like Jordan's. I honestly can't think of a single thing he does like Jordan on the floor.

ray could have meant jordan was an inspiration to lebron. or role model. without jordan who knows if lebron becomes a basketball player - he might have played football instead.

[RogueBorg]

LeBron haters reducing themselves to an argument which can be used to claim that Dr. J. is better than Jordan.

Anyone who says that Jordan is greater than LeBron has some emotional or nostalgic investment in Jordan.

Ok Zoomer
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[deathawaitu]

The man is right

Look at all the zoomer on this forum sucking off lebron

Also RA gave Lebron a ring. These zoomer should appreciate RA more

[8Ball]

The man is right

Look at all the zoomer on this forum sucking off lebron

Also RA gave Lebron a ring. These zoomer should appreciate RA more

I'd rather be a zoomer than a old Jordan boomer any day of the week.

Still holding on to that Jordan 1998 shoe? :roll:

[KirbyPls]

Born in 1980 and saw MJ's entire career. Mj was incredible, but Lebron is the best basketball player I've ever seen. Jordan is close (and probably a bit more consistently incredible) but Lebron's best is better than any other player's best, and Lebron is one of the most consistent players ever as well.

It's not just new fans that think Lebron is GOAT.

[tontoz]

I am an old fart and MJ is my favorite player ever but saying Lebron is a product of MJ is nuts. Completely different games and mindsets.

[Axe]

I think role model is a much more accurate term but vice versa.

[2much_knowledge]

Born in 1980 and saw MJ's entire career. Mj was incredible, but Lebron is the best basketball player I've ever seen. Jordan is close (and probably a bit more consistently incredible) but Lebron's best is better than any other player's best, and Lebron is one of the most consistent players ever as well.

It's not just new fans that think Lebron is GOAT.

Lol you just from Ohio. Or maybe Jordan torched your team in the 90s and you still sour

[hateraid]

:oldlol:

Gloria has collected DNA from over half of the NBA going back to the early 80’s.

I wonder how much DNA you collected passing around the crackpipe and sticking your weewee in crack whores? Hmm...

[kawhileonard2]

ray could have meant jordan was an inspiration to lebron. or role model. without jordan who knows if lebron becomes a basketball player - he might have played football instead.

Or working at burgerking.

[Full Court]

"But the way M.J. affected the game, man, he had a stranglehold on the league and he struck fear in everyone because he was an unstoppable player."

This is exactly what people who claim Lebron is the GOAT just don't understand, and why I think most of them never actually saw Jordan play.

[dbugz]

Dwyane Wade says LeBron James can never be greater than Michael Jordan (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dwyane-wade-says-lebron-james-can-never-be-greater-than-michael-jordan/)

Carmelo Anthony wasn’t comfortable with the question, but he acknowledges there is just one basketball GOAT — Michael Jordan (https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/carmelo-anthony-weighs-in-on-michael-jordan-lebron-james-goat-debate/)

Mike Malone: Killer Mentality Made Michael Jordan Better Than LeBron James (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887907-michael-malone-killer-mentality-made-michael-jordan-better-than-lebron-james)

Mario Chalmers And JR Smith Say Michael Jordan Is The GOAT (https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/05/05/mario-chalmers-and-jr-smith-say-michael-jordan-is-the-goat/)

Udonis Haslem, former LeBron James teammate, says Michael Jordan is the GOAT (https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/udonis-haslem-former-lebron-james-teammate-says-michael-jordan-goat/551975)

Ray Allen still takes Michael Jordan over LeBron James as the greatest of all time (https://clutchpoints.com/nba-news-ray-allen-still-takes-michael-jordan-over-lebron-james-as-the-greatest-of-all-time/)

[90sgoat]

Once Libron is out of the league and holds no power, you'll be hearing this on the daily.

[Mauzah]

I'd rather be a zoomer than a old Jordan boomer any day of the week.

Still holding on to that Jordan 1998 shoe? :roll:

I'd rather drive a limousine for Jayson Williams than be an uninformed Bronstan. You guys are literally spoon fed the truth and you still can't grasp it.

[dankok8]

This threads are getting boring... :facepalm