New data about Wilt's blocked shot stats in the playoffs

[coastalmarker99]

Here is what I have found in regards to Wilt's blocked shot totals in the playoffs.

1962 East Conference Playoffs Warriors VS Nationals
GAME 2 28 PTS 26 REBS 4 ASTS 12 BLKS

GAME 5 56 PTS 35 REBS 12 BLKS

1962 East Conference Finals Warriors VS Celtics
Game 7 22 PTS 22 REBS 14 BLKS

1964 West Conference Finals Warriors VS Hawks
GAME 2 28 PTS 27 REBS 5 ASTS 15 BLKS
GAME 7 39 PTS 30 REBS 6 ASTS 12 BLKS


1965 East Conference Playoffs 76ers VS Royals
GAME 2 30 PTS 15 REBS 10 ASTS 12 BLKS

GAME 3 17 PTS 15 REBS 6 ASTS 9 BLKS
GAME 4 38 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 11 BLKS


1965 East Conference Finals 76ers VS Celtics
GAME 1 33 PTS 31 REBS 11 BLKS
GAME 2 30 PTS 39 REBS 8 ASTS 8 BLKS

1967 PLAYOFFS 15 Games 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS


1968 East Conference Playoffs 76ers VS Knicks
GAME 1 37 PTS 29 REBS 7 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 2 24 PTS 17 REBS 8 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 3 18 PTS 24 REBS 8 ASTS 11 BLKS

GAME 4 23 PTS 27 REBS 5 ASTS 6 BLKS

GAME 5 26 PTS 21 REBS 7 ASTS 14 BLKS
GAME 6 25 PTS 27 REBS 3 ASTS 10 BLKS

CONFERENCE PLAYOFF AVERAGE 25.5 PTS 24.1 REBS 6.3 ASTS 10.5 BLKS


1968 PLAYOFFS 13 Games 23.7 PTS 24.7 REBS 6.5 ASTS 9.7 BLKS


1969 PLAYOFFS 18 Games 13.9 PTS 24.7 REBS 2.6 ASTS 8.5 BLKS


1970 Western Conference Playoffs Lakers VS Suns
GAME 5 36 PTS 14 REBS 2 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 6 12 PTS 26 REBS 11 ASTS 12 BLKS
GAME 7 30 PTS 27 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS


1970 Western Conference Finals Lakers VS Hawks
GAME 1 16 PTS 17 REBS 8 ASTS 11 BLKS

GAME 2 24 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 7 BLKS
GAME 4 11 PTS 21 REBS 3 ASTS 10 BLKS


1971 PLAYOFFS 12 Games 18.3 PTS 20.2 REBS 4.4 ASTS 6.0 BLKS


1972 Western Conference Playoffs Lakers VS Bulls
GAME 3 16 PTS 14 REBS 9 BLKS

1972 Western Conference Finals Lakers VS Bucks
GAME 3 7 PTS 14 REBS 4 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 5 12 PTS 26 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS
GAME 6 20 PTS 24 REBS 9 BLKS

1972 NBA FINALS LAKERS VS. KNICKS

GAME 1 12 PTS 19 REBS 0 BLKS

GAME 2 23 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS
GAME 3 26 PTS 20 REBS 9 BLKS

GAME 4 12 PTS 24 REBS 12 BLKS

GAME 5 24 PTS 29 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS

NBA FINALS AVERAGE 19.4 PTS 23.3 REBS 7.4 BLKS

1973 PLAYOFFS 17 Games 10.4 PTS 22.5 REBS 3.5 ASTS 6.9 BLKS

[coastalmarker99]

Looking at the stats we can see that Wilt had a total of 22 playoff triple-doubles involving blocks and 2 quadruple doubles over the duration of this data which is just crazy to think about.

[coastalmarker99]

Also, it must be noted that during the 1968 playoffs semifinals vs the Knicks who by the way had a hall of fame duo of Reed and Walt Bellamy as their frontcourt.









That an injured Wilt who was struggling with bad knees and hamstring problems had a monster series in which he led both teams in points (153), rebounds (145) and assists (38) plus blocks (63)


This is just mindblowing to think about as only one other player in Nba history has repeated the feat Wilt did over the course of this series in leading both teams in 4 different stat areas and that is one Lebron James in the 2016 finals.

[coastalmarker99]

To put Wilt's greatness into perspective if blocked shots had been officially tracked over the course of Wilt's career by the Nba.


Then Wilt would be the official all-time leader in triple-doubles in both the regular season and playoffs.



Plus Wilt would also be the official all-time leader in quadruple doubles in both the regular season and playoffs.


Also, the most blocks in a single game would belong to Wilt with (23) against the suns on Christmas day 1968

Most blocks in a single half would also belong to Wilt with 15 against the suns on Christmas day 1968



Most blocks per game in a season would also belong to Wilt with (6.3) in the 1973 season

Most career blocks: would also belong to Wilt with him having 5 thousand plus blocks to his name for his entire career


Most blocks per game in a career: would also belong to Wilt with him averaging around (8.7 blocks for his entire career)

Most blocks in a NBA Finals game: would also belong to Wilt with 12 in 1972 and 15 in 1967

Most blocks in a non-NBA Finals playoff game would also belong to Wilt with his 14 blocks against both the Celtics and Knicks.


Most times a player who has blocked 10 plus shots in a game would also belong to Wilt in both the regular season and playoffs.


The most blocked shots over the course of a 4-game series would belong to Wilt with 33 blocks against the Royals in the 1965 playoffs


The most blocked shots over the course of a 5 game series would belong to Wilt with a total of 37 blocks against the Knicks in the 1972 finals.


The most blocked shots over the course of a 6 game series would also belong to Wilt with a total of 63 against the Knicks in the 1968 playoffs.


The most blocked shots over the course of a playoff run would also belong to Wilt instead of Hakeem.

[FultzNationRISE]

Whats this got to do with Lebron?

[coastalmarker99]

Whats this got to do with Lebron?

It's illustrating the point on just how fantastic Wilt was as an all-round player that it took what everyone considers the greatest all-round player of all time in Lebron for someone to even just surpass the feat that Wilt pulled of in 1968 vs the Knicks.




Also, it is to show just how versatile both Wilt and Lebron's games are as they are the only top ten players of all time that are so gifted in so many different areas of the game.

[FultzNationRISE]

It's illustrating the point on just how fantastic Wilt was as an all-round player that it took what everyone considers the greatest all-round player of all time in Lebron for someone to even just surpass the feat that Wilt pulled of in 1968 vs the Knicks.




Also, it is to show just how versatile both Wilt and Lebron's games are as they are the only top ten players of all time that are so gifted in so many different areas of the game.


Good deal.

[BigShotBob]

Where's the frame/video of Wilt blocking a shot by reaching over the side of the backboard?

Also just to note, a lot of Wilt's blocks would be goaltending by today's standards. But they changed the rules because of him so you could say he was just hat dominant.

[coastalmarker99]

Where's the frame/video of Wilt blocking a shot by reaching over the side of the backboard?

Also just to note, a lot of Wilt's blocks would be goaltending by today's standards. But they changed the rules because of him so you could say he was just hat dominant.



Goaltending has existed since 1944 and yes the Refs of that era did call goaltending on Wilt case in point this video down below so i question the idea that you have that a lot of Wilt's blocks would be goaltending by today's standards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RFeBW9WdEs

[Psileas]

I agree, there would be several more records that would be owned by Wilt (and some by Russell) if blocked shots were counted. It's funny how the 23 block game vs Phx (and probably a few others at 17+ blocks) actually exists on film, yet can't count as official because of those crappy omissions.
However, I think Wilt's highest block seasons would either happen in the early 60's (maybe 1960 or 1961) or in 1967 or '68, not '73.

[coastalmarker99]

I agree, there would be several more records that would be owned by Wilt (and some by Russell) if blocked shots were counted. It's funny how the 23 block game vs Phx (and probably a few others at 17+ blocks) actually exists on film, yet can't count as official because of those crappy omissions.
However, I think Wilt's highest block seasons would either happen in the early 60's (maybe 1960 or 1961) or in 1967 or '68, not '73.


Here is the shot blocking data about Wilt's 1967 playoff run if you are interested in it.






1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS.
CINCINNATI ROYALS

GAME 1 41 PTS 22 REBS 5 ASTS 9 BLKS

GAME 2 37 PTS 27 REBS 11 ASTS 6 BLKS
GAME 3 16 PTS 30 REBS 19 ASTS 14 BLKS

GAME 4 18 PTS 27 REBS 9 ASTS 12 BLKS

CONFERENCE PLAYOFF AVERAGE 28.0 PTS 26.5 REBS 11.0 ASTS 10.2 BLKS

1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS.
BOSTON CELTICS

GAME 1 24 PTS 32 REBS 13 ASTS 12 BLKS

GAME 2 15 PTS 29 REBS 5 ASTS 5 BLKS

GAME 3 20 PTS 41 REBS 9 ASTS 5 BLKS

GAME 4 20 PTS 22 REBS 10 ASTS 8 BLKS

GAME 5 29 PTS 36 REBS 13 ASTS 7 BLKS

CONFERENCE FINAL AVERAGE 21.6 PTS 32.0 REBS 10.0 ASTS 7.4 BLKS

1967 NBA FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS. SAN FRANCISCO WARRIORS

GAME 1 16 PTS 33 REBS 10 ASTS 9 BLKS

GAME 2 10 PTS 38 REBS 10 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 3 26 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 8 BLKS

GAME 4 10 PTS 27 REBS 8 ASTS 15 BLKS

GAME 5 20 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 13 BLKS

GAME 6 24 PTS 23 REBS 4 ASTS 6 BLKS

NBA FINALS AVERAGE 17.6 PTS 28.5 REBS 6.8 ASTS 10.1 BLKS

1967 Playoffs 15 games 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS

[Turbo Slayer]

Wilt is fascinating. Some say that he is choker. Others say that he is one of the best players of alltime.

[3ball]

That's why I have him at #2 with a case for #1

He played in an 8-team league with 80% of the good players on 1 team (russell had 9 HOF teammates) - all designed to take down 1 man (wilt)

He averaged 34/25 only 5 years before Kareem achieved his highs of 34/16, so against a lot of the same comp

[coastalmarker99]

That's why I have him at #2 with a case for #1

He played in an 8-team league with 80% of the good players on 1 team (russell had 9 HOF teammates) - all designed to take down 1 man (wilt)

He averaged 33 points a game with the Warriors in the playoffs before he then changed his playstyle to become a playmaker with the 76ers and then finally a defensive anchor only with the Lakers.





Wilt is by far the most unique player in the top ten of all time with his ability to consistently succeed in any role for his teams which by the way posted two of the best records in Nba history in 1967 and 1972 with Wilt winning two finals Mvp's on the 76ers and Lakers in those seasons before Jordan's bulls surpassed their regular-season wins record.

[coastalmarker99]

That's why I have him at #2 with a case for #1

He played in an 8-team league with 80% of the good players on 1 team (russell had 9 HOF teammates) - all designed to take down 1 man (wilt)

He averaged 34/25 only 5 years before Kareem achieved his highs of 34/16, so against a lot of the same comp



my analysis of Wilt's '67 playoff run is as follows:

15 games: 21.7pts 29.1reb 11.3ast(by today's criteria)11.5blk

13 triple-doubles(by today's criteria)
7 quadruple-doubles(by today's criteria)

By today's assist interpretation, Wilt is the only player in history to average a quadruple-double in the regular season and playoffs in the same season!

[3ball]

my analysis of Wilt's '67 playoff run is as follows:

15 games: 21.7pts 29.1reb 11.3ast(by today's criteria)11.5blk

13 triple-doubles(by today's criteria)
7 quadruple-doubles(by today's criteria)

By today's assist interpretation, Wilt is the only player in history to average a quadruple-double in the regular season and playoffs in the same season!


Yeah and when I see recent footage showing him getting shoulder-level with the rim on a block after his athletic prime (and then saving the ball from going out of bounds), or sprinting like a 22 year-old for a chase-down block - it looks surreal..

[coastalmarker99]

Yeah and when I see recent footage showing him getting shoulder-level with the rim on a block after his athletic prime (and then saving the ball from going out of bounds), or sprinting like a 22 year-old for a chase-down block - it looks surreal..

Indeed it does look surreal and with Wilt being the greatest athlete to ever step foot on a basketball court plus the amount of skill he possessed in his game there should be no doubt in peoples minds that if a prime Wilt was playing nowadays that he would be dominating the Nba as the best player in the league over Lebron.

[Manny98]

Nice stats but it's all irrelevant when you don't win and dominate when it counts

[coastalmarker99]

Nice stats but it's all irrelevant when you don't win and dominate when it counts


You could say the same thing about Lebron's playoff stats and his inability to dominate and win in the finals when it counts the most as Jordan did for his entire career going 6 for 6 in the finals with two three-peats to boot.


Every single criticism you have about Wilt's lack of winning can easily just as well be applied to Lebron who truthfully feasted on an incredibly weak east with a super team backing him up and as a result of this. he was given many finals appearances that he wouldn't have gotten close to if he played in the west such as in 2018 2014 2016 2007.




Plus for the record Wilt dominated in big games and the stats back me up on this.






In elimination games, from 1960-66, Wilt averaged 40ppg in 12 games. He had 3 of his 4 50+ point games were in those elimination games all wins that's not a choker. Also in his nine-game seven's in his post-season career, Chamberlain averaged 24.4 ppg, 26.3 rpg, and shot .62.6... which is not only the highest FG% ever in game seven's by an all-time "great"...it was achieved in league's that shot about .43.5 on average




In elimination games, from 1967-73, Wilt averaged 23ppg in 12 games (different roles). despite the fact he wasn't the main scoring option anymore (he was defensive-minded Wilt at this time), but still was able to pull out a 45/27 game, 30/27/11 blocks (reported), etc...

You round his scoring average to 31.5ppg in 24 elimination games, with him having a rebounding average of 20+, high fg%, high blocks, and his enigma of low ft% for his total career which means that during elimination games that Wilt increased his regular-season scoring and his rebound numbers as well wow what a choker Wilt is.

[Psileas]

Coastal, I know that we're nowhere close to having seen all the highlights from the '67 Finals (among others), but from the available footage here and there, there seem to be hardly any blocked shots at all and this makes it hard to believe that these numbers are very realistic. Of course, most of this footage is based on scoring alone, so I don't try to be too dismissive, but how many of these figures have been reported by media and how many are guesstimations?

[BigShotBob]

Goaltending has existed since 1944 and yes the Refs of that era did call goaltending on Wilt case in point this video down below so i question the idea that you have that a lot of Wilt's blocks would be goaltending by today's standards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RFeBW9WdEs

If I remember correctly the parameters of goaltending were different. Not only that, but they also widened the lane to make it harder for Wilt to block shots. Not saying it worked mind you, but I'm just pointing it out for the uneducated.

Thanks for the video.

[Manny98]

You could say the same thing about Lebron's playoff stats and his inability to dominate and win in the finals when it counts the most as Jordan did for his entire career going 6 for 6 in the finals with two three-peats to boot.


Every single criticism you have about Wilt's lack of winning can easily just as well be applied to Lebron who truthfully feasted on an incredibly weak east with a super team backing him up and as a result of this. he was given many finals appearances that he wouldn't have gotten close to if he played in the west such as in 2018 2014 2016 2007.




Plus for the record Wilt dominated in big games and the stats back me up on this.






In elimination games, from 1960-66, Wilt averaged 40ppg in 12 games. He had 3 of his 4 50+ point games were in those elimination games all wins that's not a choker. Also in his nine-game seven's in his post-season career, Chamberlain averaged 24.4 ppg, 26.3 rpg, and shot .62.6... which is not only the highest FG% ever in game seven's by an all-time "great"...it was achieved in league's that shot about .43.5 on average




In elimination games, from 1967-73, Wilt averaged 23ppg in 12 games (different roles). despite the fact he wasn't the main scoring option anymore (he was defensive-minded Wilt at this time), but still was able to pull out a 45/27 game, 30/27/11 blocks (reported), etc...

You round his scoring average to 31.5ppg in 24 elimination games, with him having a rebounding average of 20+, high fg%, high blocks, and his enigma of low ft% for his total career which means that during elimination games that Wilt increased his regular-season scoring and his rebound numbers as well wow what a choker Wilt is.
LeBron has double the rings as Iilt :oldlol:

[zeerghit]

LeBron has double the rings as Iilt :oldlol:

and?

[Manny98]

and?
You can't compare Lebron to that choking mental midget who was Bill Russells punching bag for an entire decade

[zeerghit]

You can't compare Lebron to that choking mental midget who was Bill Russells punching bag for an entire decade

so Kobe, Kareem, Jordan >>>>>>>>> Lebron, yes?
btw Lebron = Warriors punching bag aswell, yes?

[Airupthere]

so Kobe, Kareem, Jordan >>>>>>>>> Lebron, yes?
btw Lebron = Warriors punching bag aswell, yes?

:lebronamazed:

[dankok8]

I love how Lebron fans say rings don't matter but when comparing him to someone like Wilt they are very quick to point out that Lebron won 4 and Wilt won 2...

[Manny98]

I love how Lebron fans say rings don't matter but when comparing him to someone like Wilt they are very quick to point out that Lebron won 4 and Wilt won 2...
When did I ever say rings don't matter

I said that rings aren't everything but they still matter to an extent

Wilt underachieved more in the playoffs more than any other ATG, he's not even top 10 tbh

[Manny98]

so Kobe, Kareem, Jordan >>>>>>>>> Lebron, yes?
btw Lebron = Warriors punching bag aswell, yes?
LeBron isn't a choker like Chokerlain :oldlol:

LeBron has the same amount of championships as the best player than Kareem and Kobe combined

[coastalmarker99]

Coastal, I know that we're nowhere close to having seen all the highlights from the '67 Finals (among others), but from the available footage here and there, there seem to be hardly any blocked shots at all and this makes it hard to believe that these numbers are very realistic. Of course, most of this footage is based on scoring alone, so I don't try to be too dismissive, but how many of these figures have been reported by media and how many are guesstimations?

All of the blocked shot numbers I've posted are from definitive sources. They include the late, great Harvey Pollack, UPI, AP, newspaper reporters who covered the Warriors/76ers/Lakers, books, and magazine articles. For example, it was reported by the Philadelphia Daily News that Wilt blocked 14 shots in Game 7 of the 1962 Eastern Conference Finals. Check out the following link... https://www.youtube.com/watchv=uJGCySdvlPo&t=274s&ab_channel=WiltChamberlainArchive
which contains almost 14 minutes of Wilt blocking shots with some of those highlights showing Wilt blocking 2 consecutive shots from the same player. Examples include Wilt blocking consecutive shots from Sam Jones in Game 4 of the 1967 Eastern Conference Finals and blocking back to back skyhooks from Kareem in Game 1 of the 1971 Western Conference Finals. Wilt Chamberlain was simply the greatest shot-blocking 7 foot center in NBA history.

[coastalmarker99]

When did I ever say rings don't matter

I said that rings aren't everything but they still matter to an extent

Wilt underachieved more in the playoffs more than any other ATG, he's not even top 10 tbh



You are a complete joke and retard if you think that the greatest individual player of all time by far with all of his records and stats plus his 2 rings and 2 finals MVP's is not a top ten player of all time.



And secondly, every stat we have of Wilt in the playoffs suggests that Wilt was not an underachiever compared to the other greats in the top ten of all time so therefore your logic falls apart once again.

[Manny98]

I have Wilt 11th all time

Sorry but he has way too many blips on his resume + his stats are largely inflated

[Psileas]

All of the blocked shot numbers I've posted are from definitive sources. They include the late, great Harvey Pollack, UPI, AP, newspaper reporters who covered the Warriors/76ers/Lakers, books, and magazine articles. For example, it was reported by the Philadelphia Daily News that Wilt blocked 14 shots in Game 7 of the 1962 Eastern Conference Finals. Check out the following link... https://www.youtube.com/watchv=uJGCySdvlPo&t=274s&ab_channel=WiltChamberlainArchive
which contains almost 14 minutes of Wilt blocking shots with some of those highlights showing Wilt blocking 2 consecutive shots from the same player. Examples include Wilt blocking consecutive shots from Sam Jones in Game 4 of the 1967 Eastern Conference Finals and blocking back to back skyhooks from Kareem in Game 1 of the 1971 Western Conference Finals. Wilt Chamberlain was simply the greatest shot-blocking 7 foot center in NBA history.

Don't get me wrong, I know Wilt is probably the GOAT shot blocker, I was just mentioning what I've seen in the 1967 Finals footage. Maybe there is an overemphasis on offensive clips from that series, since there's not too much shot blocking footage. We need a more complete picture out of those games.

[coastalmarker99]

Don't get me wrong, I know Wilt is probably the GOAT shot blocker, I was just mentioning what I've seen in the 1967 Finals footage. Maybe there is an overemphasis on offensive clips from that series, since there's not too much shot blocking footage. We need a more complete picture out of those games.



Indeed we do need a more complete picture of those games man and the good news is that both the Abc archives and Nba archives have a ton of footage of Wilt playing in the playoffs from 1964 to 1973 with the 76ers and Lakers.



As they have the entire 1970 and 1969 plus 1972 and 1973 finals on tape which is great news.


Plus they have Wilt's battles vs the Hawks and Warriors in 1969.

And also against the Suns and Hawks once again in 1970.

And finally against the Bulls in 1971,1972 and 1973




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