View Full Version : Why Dems opposed to the boarder wall, but feel need have wall surrounding the Capital
Hey Yo
02-24-2021, 01:32 PM
Why is that??
They bitched and moaned and said the boarder wasn't needed. That it's a huge waste of tax payers money.
So who's paying for the 3 and half miles of wall with razor wire at the top surrounding the Capital? Who's paying for the National Guard? What are they afraid of that they need all this security? Why the need to make people feel that the Dems are protecting themselves from something?
What's the current threat for all this security??
Patrick Chewing
02-24-2021, 01:44 PM
The Democrats are hoping for violence. The longer that wall stays up, the more it triggers the wrong kind of people. The Democrats are inciting the American citizen with this blatant display of force.
bladefd
02-24-2021, 04:08 PM
Republicans also were involved in the calling of the national guard. You make it sound like only democrats in congress called for the national guard and the only ones to fence up the capitol hill. I expect that to be taken down in a few months once things cool off and the insurrection idiots who need to be prosecuted are prosecuted.
Hey Yo
02-24-2021, 04:20 PM
Republicans also were involved in the calling of the national guard. You make it sound like only democrats in congress called for the national guard and the only ones to fence up the capitol hill. I expect that to be taken down in a few months once things cool off and the insurrection idiots who need to be prosecuted are prosecuted.
Republicans wanted the National Guard at the inauguration, asked multiple times and was told that's not necessary. Show me where multiple non Dems want the Capital looking the way it is now. Plus you say "once things cool off" What needs to cooling? Have there been threats made to the Capital since "everything has cooled off" over a month ago?
Plus, you still didn't answer why the border wall is such a silly idea. Who's tax money has been wasted on the razor wire Capital wall? Why is it they're letting all these illegal immigrants that can threaten U.S lives while they hide behind their wall and National Guard?
Nanners
02-24-2021, 04:21 PM
its a little strange that the cap fence is still up... its not exactly a good look to have your capitol surrounded by military and razor wire for months on end
Patrick Chewing
02-24-2021, 04:30 PM
Republicans also were involved in the calling of the national guard. You make it sound like only democrats in congress called for the national guard and the only ones to fence up the capitol hill. I expect that to be taken down in a few months once things cool off and the insurrection idiots who need to be prosecuted are prosecuted.
Democrats are in power now and are keeping it up now.
Once things cool off? Cool off from what? What protests and violent so-called insurrections are happening that would necessitate that way staying there till the end of the year?
bladefd
02-24-2021, 04:50 PM
We have modern technology and ways to track/watch over our vast borders without needing a massive wall sitting across it. Talk to me when the capitol hill has an actual wall around it and not a fence w/ barbed wire. Metal fence doesn't require much maintenance and it's not in place permanently. It can be removed within a day (it was put in place within a day or two). Border wall would have to be thousands of miles long.
Do you not see the difference between building a permanent wall thousands of miles long and 30ft tall costing tens of billions of dollars versus a 10ft barrier fence perhaps a single mile long costing say a million dollar at most? If you can't comprehend the difference then I'm wasting my time.
Hey Yo
02-24-2021, 05:16 PM
We have modern technology and ways to track/watch over our vast borders without needing a massive wall sitting across it. Talk to me when the capitol hill has an actual wall around it and not a fence w/ barbed wire. Metal fence doesn't require much maintenance and it's not in place permanently. It can be removed within a day (it was put in place within a day or two). Border wall would have to be thousands of miles long.
Do you not see the difference between building a permanent wall thousands of miles long and 30ft tall costing tens of billions of dollars versus a 10ft barrier fence perhaps a single mile long costing say a million dollar at most? If you can't comprehend the difference then I'm wasting my time.
Why track the boarder now when the guy you voted for is letting any and all ILLEGAL immigrants to freely come into the country w/o documentation??
"We're going to beat this pandemic............... but first I'm going to let all illegals into the country and that will REALLY get the U.S back on track to recovery. Sounds about right for your boy Joe, huh??
The fence at the Capital wraps all the way around and it's 3 and half miles long. What are they protecting themselves from?? As long as your girl Pelosi is in office, I'd bet the razor wire wall stays yup much longer.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/capitolfence_01292021getty.png
Real Men Wear Green
02-24-2021, 05:37 PM
There was a riot on January 6th with a lot of people trying to overturn the election and many of them hoping to harm various members of Congress. Those Congresspeople in turn felt threatened and hence security is being beefed up. And now you know.
FultzNationRISE
02-24-2021, 05:45 PM
There was a riot on January 6th with a lot of people trying to overturn the election and many of them hoping to harm various members of Congress. Those Congresspeople in turn felt threatened and hence security is being beefed up. And now you know.
^ When a poster like this says "now you know..."
You can pretty safely assume the REAL truth is far, far away from whatever he just "explained."
rawimpact
02-24-2021, 05:47 PM
There was a riot on January 6th with a lot of people trying to overturn the election and many of them hoping to harm various members of Congress. Those Congresspeople in turn felt threatened and hence security is being beefed up. And now you know.
That was nearly two months ago and an isolated incident on a landmark day, unless you have evidence to believe it will happen again? But I was under the impression Dems did not believe walls were effective means of preventing individuals from crossing, am I wrong?
Man, I wish I could hold a poker face and flip the switch/my views as often as these guys and not feel guilty about it.
Patrick Chewing
02-24-2021, 05:47 PM
There was a riot on January 6th with a lot of people trying to overturn the election and many of them hoping to harm various members of Congress. Those Congresspeople in turn felt threatened and hence security is being beefed up. And now you know.
Yeah....January 6th. January 6th.
Hey Yo
03-05-2021, 02:34 AM
National Guard ordered to stay another 2mos.
and why is that??
bladefd
03-05-2021, 03:47 AM
National Guard ordered to stay another 2mos.
and why is that??
Ask Qanon. Why the bombing threats?
Having said that, I'm not happy with congress closing shop yesterday just because there was a threat for March 4. You have all that protection - stop being cowards and do your jobs.
Cleverness
03-05-2021, 04:28 AM
its a little strange that the cap fence is still up... its not exactly a good look to have your capitol surrounded by military and razor wire for months on end
"Capitol surrounded by military and razor wire for months on end," thousands of political prisoners, people aren't allowed to go outside, can't even assemble 2 people for lunch at the local deli, free speech online is tightly censored in favor of the current Official Narrative on any given topic, only a tiny % of the country actually supports its rulers, trillions of dollars being handed out to whoever they want, gotta wait another 2-4-6 years to "vote" in the next round of professional liars and crooks... great system
Hey Yo
03-05-2021, 10:49 AM
Ask Qanon. Why the bombing threats?
Having said that, I'm not happy with congress closing shop yesterday just because there was a threat for March 4. You have all that protection - stop being cowards and do your jobs.
Alleged threats
Just more made up bullshit to make people think that wall covered in razor wire and keeping the guardsman another 2mos is justifiable. Then May will roll around and more bogus claims of threats will pop up out of nowhere to keep the fence up longer and the guardsman longer.
KennyPowers
03-05-2021, 02:59 PM
https://i.ibb.co/L5zX2rz/20210305-124726.jpg
Long Duck Dong
03-05-2021, 03:07 PM
There was a riot on January 6th with a lot of people trying to overturn the election and many of them hoping to harm various members of Congress. Those Congresspeople in turn felt threatened and hence security is being beefed up. And now you know.
Just one Mexican alone killed at least 16 Americans and eluded authorities by going back and forth from the unprotected Mexican border. Which is the bigger threat? There were worse illegal Mexican serial killers in the US but they mainly concentrated on Mexican and Central American nationals living in the US.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81ngel_Maturino_Res%C3%A9ndiz
JohnnySic
03-05-2021, 03:53 PM
Illegals are an important voter base for the Dems, that's why.
The situation at the capital is all a political hoax; protection against those mythical white supremacists that cause so much trouble in legend but few have ever identified in reality.
rawimpact
03-05-2021, 04:27 PM
California is dumb enough to allow 1 year olds and prisoners to collect 11 billion dollars of fraud unemployment, they're not competent enough to be doing mail in ballots
Mr. Woke
03-05-2021, 04:59 PM
We have gotta protect the Capitol from the violent fascists that permeate the right wing.
Lakers Legend#32
03-05-2021, 05:15 PM
Because violent Trump supporters have already tried to overthrow the government once already.
Real Men Wear Green
03-06-2021, 08:46 AM
Because violent Trump supporters have already tried to overthrow the government once already.
I tried explaining that to them. The actual reason doesn't fit their world view so they can't accept it.
Chick Stern
03-06-2021, 01:12 PM
I tried explaining that to them. The actual reason doesn't fit their world view so they can't accept it.
Well, they can’t spell in thread titles, so you can’t expect them to understand reason.
Hey Yo
03-06-2021, 04:35 PM
A series of no-shows for Q
Before March 4, the QAnon follower's calendar was marked with dates that had been hailed as moments of reckoning but didn't happen.
In 2017, the first "Q drop" - the cryptic messages from the anonymous "Q" figure behind the movement - claimed that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would soon be arrested, based on an unfounded allegation that she was involved in child sex trafficking. This, of course, never happened, but the QAnon conspiracy theory was born.
Devotees of the conspiracy theory eagerly anticipated the release of the Mueller report in 2019, expecting its findings to lead to the arrest and possibly the execution of leading Democrats. Once again, QAnon believers were disappointed.
Then, in a bid to reconcile their belief that Trump would remain president, they believed that January 6, the date of the deadly insurrection at the US Capitol, was a precursor to "the storm," a violent event that would result in the execution of child-abusive elites.
The goalpost was moved to January 20, when Trump would seize power before Biden could take his oath.
But Trump was not inaugurated again on January 20. He left Washington, DC, to move to Florida. Some QAnon believers were left confused and crestfallen.
Mental gymnastics ensued. Some QAnon influencers argued that Biden's inauguration had happened in a Hollywood studio and was therefore invalid; others claimed that Trump had sent signals in his final address indicating that he'd remain in office. These influencers promoted to their followers the idea that, somehow, their theory was not yet over.
"QAnon is dealing with a very difficult cognitive-dissonance situation," Michael Barkun, a professor emeritus of political science at Syracuse University.
Several top QAnon voices disavowed the March 4 conspiracy theory. These influencers have likely been attempting to keep their followers on board with the QAnon conspiracy theory despite its myriad disappointments, Backovic told Insider.
A post on Wednesday on a QAnon Telegram channel with nearly 200,000 subscribers called the plan "BS" - though the same page had told its followers that the "new Republic" would begin on March 4.
Another top conspiracy theorist told their 71,000 subscribers on Wednesday morning that a "Q drop" had contained a hint that the March 4 conspiracy theory was a false flag. "March 4 is a Trap," the post said.
The latest disappointment has led to the introduction of new dates, with increasingly desperate explanations.
Some QAnon influencers have suggested that March 20 is when Trump will seize control. It appears to be a misinterpretation of the Presidential Transition Enhancement Act of 2019, which provides certain transition-related services to an administration up to 60 days after the inauguration.
The claim, first made on a popular QAnon Telegram channel, appeared to be gaining ground with supporters offline too. A QAnon supporter told The Washington Post's Dave Weigel over the weekend that he believes that Trump remains in command of the military and will be inaugurated on March 20.
Dave Weigel@daveweigel
Met Ken, who informed me that Trump is still in command of the military, and Trump will be inaugurated again on March 20. (Biden is acting as president as a ruse while the Pope and others are rounded up.)
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1366105390920966149
If Ken said it........ it MUST be ****ing true :oldlol: Mark you calendars!!!!
In another Telegram message board for QAnon believers, one post encouraged people to remain open-minded about Q's plan. "Dates for late March, April, May, and more dates in the fall have been tossed out there," the post said. "While we can speculate and hope, no specific dates have been landed on… don't get caught up in the dates, watch what's happening."
Others are simply set on a resounding victory for Trump in 2024.
"Whether it's some date in March or whether ultimately it will be a second Trump term after an election in 2024," Barkun told Insider, "there will be some further set of explanations and a further set of dates."
The cycle continues.
https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-fake-inauguration-march-4-134411261.html
So funny that Board Dems here believe this shit. Believe that the country is in danger with wrong prediction, after wrong prediction by Q.
Real Men Wear Green
03-07-2021, 05:27 AM
So Democrats are Qanon...a fascinating bit of insanity there.
ItsMillerTime
03-07-2021, 08:17 AM
OP gunning hard to take away the Most Retarded Poster award from Chewing.
Patrick, you better make more threads about Dr. Seuss and whatever else you're outraged about. Quickly!
Hey Yo
03-07-2021, 01:50 PM
So Democrats are Qanon...a fascinating bit of insanity there.
No.... they're the ones who believe the shit that Qanon is spewing. March 4th passes, nothing happened, so we better keep the razor wire fence up and keep the guardsman another 2mos.
Don't forget, "Ken" said March 20th is the new date now and when that date passes, you guys will say the Capitol is still in danger.
Real Men Wear Green
03-07-2021, 03:09 PM
No.... they're the ones who believe the shit that Qanon is spewing. March 4th passes, nothing happened, so we better keep the razor wire fence up and keep the guardsman another 2mos.
Don't forget, "Ken" said March 20th is the new date now and when that date passes, you guys will say the Capitol is still in danger.
Right. Just like it was Antufa saboteurs that staged the Jan 6 riot to begin with. Got it.
Hey Yo
03-07-2021, 04:12 PM
Right. Just like it was Antufa saboteurs that staged the Jan 6 riot to begin with. Got it.
So you believe everything that guys like Ken say. Got it.
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