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HBK_Kliq_2
02-24-2021, 11:24 PM
Draymond Green is the guy who can pass the ball like Bill Russell. Also Draymond Green is anchoring a warriors top 5 defense this season. This Warriors team would never be this good if you replace Draymond with Klay Thompson. Draymond is the anchor of the 73 win warriors. Those same 73 win Warriors that got blasted on their home court when Draymond was suspended. Draymond is actually the mastermind behind every single warriors ring, wow.

Kawhi in 2019 beat a better version of warriors then Lebron did in 2016 because Draymond was playing every game.

SATAN
02-24-2021, 11:26 PM
:oldlol:

DoctorP
02-24-2021, 11:29 PM
Probably. Green in the 60s would probably dominate.

hold this L
02-24-2021, 11:32 PM
Draymond Green is the guy who can pass the ball like Bill Russell. Also Draymond Green is anchoring a warriors top 5 defense this season. This Warriors team would never be this good if you replace Draymond with Klay Thompson. Draymond is the anchor of the 73 win warriors. Those same 73 win Warriors that got blasted on their home court when Draymond was suspended. Draymond is actually the mastermind behind every single warriors ring, wow.
What the hell are you even on abo..


Kawhi in 2019 beat a better version of warriors then Lebron did in 2016 because Draymond was playing every game.
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Wally450
02-24-2021, 11:32 PM
This dudes logic is because Draymond is a good defender that the 2019 Warriors were better than the 2016 Warriors.

How about the little fact that KD and Klay were out?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
02-24-2021, 11:54 PM
Draymond would be bagging groceries in the 60s since hed be used as a wing and useless

Babyboi isnt much better than Iggy if at all. He benefits greatly from the era he plays. Bogut even said recently hed be out of the league if Kerr didnt play him at the 4/5

RRR3
02-24-2021, 11:58 PM
What the hell are you even on abo..


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Typical HBK Brick. As I’m sure you know too well Draymond was infinitely better in 2016 than he was in 2019. What happened to him btw? He used to have some semblance of offensive skill. Where’d it go?

tpols
02-25-2021, 12:00 AM
Dray is like a half foot shorter than Russell.

HBK_Kliq_2
02-25-2021, 12:31 AM
Draymond cussed out Durant in 2019, then he averaged 17 points, 12 rebounds, 9 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks in the western conference finals. That's something Russell would do. You guys are underrating Draymond.

If Durant doesn't win with nets, Durant's entire legacy will be the guy who got cussed out by his own teammates for being a coward.

HBK_Kliq_2
02-25-2021, 12:33 AM
Dray is like a half foot shorter than Russell.


Draymond wingspan is 7"1. That is plenty enough length for this era.

hold this L
02-25-2021, 01:08 AM
Typical HBK Brick. As I’m sure you know too well Draymond was infinitely better in 2016 than he was in 2019. What happened to him btw? He used to have some semblance of offensive skill. Where’d it go?
He was riding high in 15 and 16. Might feel weird but him getting dunked on by Hart may have had some psychological damage to his ego, add KD coming in a few months later where he didn't shoot as well. Had some minor issues with his form and never recovered. Dray basically peaked for those amazing 2 seasons.

Still absolutely vital but his shooting is never coming back.

Kblaze8855
02-25-2021, 06:44 AM
There is no modern version of Russell. You would need prime Dray to rebound like Drummond to even have the discussion. The closest approach wise may be DPOY run Noah who was also the Bulls playmaker....except neither he nor Dray scored for more than a game or two. Russell wasnt a scorer at all...but believe it or not he actually led at least one title team in scoring in the playoffs. Maybe more but I know he did once. You will never see Dray or Noah lead a great team in scoring. They have one off nights....Dray had the huge game in losing 2016...but Russell had those games too. He had 30/40 to win a 3 point overtime game 7 the finals the year he led them in scoring. Dray may have scored like Russell considering pace but like I said....hed never lead a good team in scoring for a title run and he wasnt an all time rebounder. Russell was far from a go to scorer but his sheer athletic ability let him do more of it on command than guys like Draymond or Noah generally will.

You need to combine a number of people to get a modern Russell. You need like....Kidds mind in Josh Smiths body with Rodmans rebounding....KGs defensive instincts.....Drays passing....I dont know whos scoring. A non shooting Shawn Marion maybe? If Bill ran the floor instead of triggering the break his athletic ability would be hard to contend with. But getting every rebound and getting the ball up the court was more useful to the team than him scoring himself so that will be hard to account for.

Theres no easy comparison.

2much_knowledge
02-25-2021, 06:57 AM
There is no modern version of Russell. You would need prime Dray to rebound like Drummond to even have the discussion. The closest approach wise may be DPOY run Noah who was also the Bulls playmaker....except neither he nor Dray scored for more than a game or two. Russell wasnt a scorer at all...but believe it or not he actually led at least one title team in scoring in the playoffs. Maybe more but I know he did once. You will never see Dray or Noah lead a great team in scoring. They have one off nights....Dray had the huge game in losing 2016...but Russell had those games too. He had 30/40 to win a 3 point overtime game 7 the finals the year he led them in scoring. Dray may have scored like Russell considering pace but like I said....hed never lead a good team in scoring for a title run and he wasnt an all time rebounder. Russell was far from a go to scorer but his sheer athletic ability let him do more of it on command than guys like Draymond or Noah generally will.

You need to combine a number of people to get a modern Russell. You need like....Kidds mind in Josh Smiths body with Rodmans rebounding....KGs defensive instincts.....Drays passing....I dont know whos scoring. A non shooting Shawn Marion maybe? If Bill ran the floor instead of triggering the break his athletic ability would be hard to contend with. But getting every rebound and getting the ball up the court was more useful to the team than him scoring himself so that will be hard to account for.

Theres no easy comparison.

Interesting take. And no, Draymond is no bill russell at all. Never has, never will

Maybe if you mix a little bit of Boston KG, Gobert & rodman, you might get something similar to him

Manny98
02-25-2021, 07:02 AM
Rudy Gobert obviously

Axe
02-25-2021, 07:23 AM
Did bill russell ever tried to play dirty back then?

2much_knowledge
02-25-2021, 09:29 AM
Did bill russell ever tried to play dirty back then?

Not dirty in the Bill lambeer sense of the word but he was a cerebral mouthy player like Bird. Not the same but he was no saint

SouBeachTalents
02-25-2021, 09:31 AM
Idk who the hell you'd compare to Dray, he's a very unique player, but it sure as hell isn't Russell :lol

hold this L
02-25-2021, 09:37 AM
There is no modern version of Russell. You would need prime Dray to rebound like Drummond to even have the discussion. The closest approach wise may be DPOY run Noah who was also the Bulls playmaker....except neither he nor Dray scored for more than a game or two. Russell wasnt a scorer at all...but believe it or not he actually led at least one title team in scoring in the playoffs. Maybe more but I know he did once. You will never see Dray or Noah lead a great team in scoring. They have one off nights....Dray had the huge game in losing 2016...but Russell had those games too. He had 30/40 to win a 3 point overtime game 7 the finals the year he led them in scoring. Dray may have scored like Russell considering pace but like I said....hed never lead a good team in scoring for a title run and he wasnt an all time rebounder. Russell was far from a go to scorer but his sheer athletic ability let him do more of it on command than guys like Draymond or Noah generally will.

You need to combine a number of people to get a modern Russell. You need like....Kidds mind in Josh Smiths body with Rodmans rebounding....KGs defensive instincts.....Drays passing....I dont know whos scoring. A non shooting Shawn Marion maybe? If Bill ran the floor instead of triggering the break his athletic ability would be hard to contend with. But getting every rebound and getting the ball up the court was more useful to the team than him scoring himself so that will be hard to account for.

Theres no easy comparison.

You didn't need to write that. His entire purpose to make this comparison is somehow in his insane head, was to make the 2019 Warriors look better than the 2016 Warriors for the sole purpose of making the player he stans look good. That's it. My guess is he has never seen a single second of Russell play in his entire life.

ralph_i_el
02-25-2021, 01:04 PM
Draymond wingspan is 7"1. That is plenty enough length for this era.

Russell was an Olympic level athlete. Dray is a WNBA level athlete.

Airupthere
02-25-2021, 01:05 PM
Russell was an Olympic level athlete. Dray is a WNBA level athlete.

:oldlol:

k0kakw0rld
02-25-2021, 01:09 PM
Draymond Green is the guy who can pass the ball like Bill Russell. Also Draymond Green is anchoring a warriors top 5 defense this season. This Warriors team would never be this good if you replace Draymond with Klay Thompson. Draymond is the anchor of the 73 win warriors. Those same 73 win Warriors that got blasted on their home court when Draymond was suspended. Draymond is actually the mastermind behind every single warriors ring, wow.

Kawhi in 2019 beat a better version of warriors then Lebron did in 2016 because Draymond was playing every game.

You are out of your mind.

ralph_i_el
02-25-2021, 04:54 PM
:oldlol:

And I like the guy. It's just the truth.

MadDog
02-25-2021, 05:12 PM
OP is a crackhead. They play nothing alike and their athleticism is worlds apart. Draymond is unique because of his ability to impact games despite having role player numbers. Yeah Charles and Shaq clowned him for averaging a triple single. :oldlol: Good joke but his impact is star level. When Klay is on the floor Dray's playmaking is elite.

Axe
02-25-2021, 07:39 PM
Draymond wingspan is 7"1. That is plenty enough length for this era.
7'1? Sounds a lot like brian windhorst

light
02-25-2021, 08:56 PM
Modern day Bill Russell is Scottie Pippen.

He’s relatively modern.

Neither thought about stats when they played.

HBK_Kliq_2
02-27-2021, 12:45 AM
Draymond Russell is at again. 16 assists before 4th quarter

AirBonner
02-27-2021, 12:50 AM
Russell had a knack for winning almost every year he played. No one is like that

HBK_Kliq_2
11-22-2021, 05:19 PM
He's doing it again. Anchoring the #1 defense again, has a 99 defensive rating in the spread offense era.

Has led the season in DBPM 2 different times, led playoffs in DBPM 2 different times, led playoffs in defensive win shares 4 consecutive years.

Draymond Russell is at it again.

Bronbron23
11-22-2021, 05:24 PM
Draymond Green is the guy who can pass the ball like Bill Russell. Also Draymond Green is anchoring a warriors top 5 defense this season. This Warriors team would never be this good if you replace Draymond with Klay Thompson. Draymond is the anchor of the 73 win warriors. Those same 73 win Warriors that got blasted on their home court when Draymond was suspended. Draymond is actually the mastermind behind every single warriors ring, wow.

Kawhi in 2019 beat a better version of warriors then Lebron did in 2016 because Draymond was playing every game.

I've never seen dray with athleticism like this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j2AlFrOj5Mc

Bronbron23
11-22-2021, 05:27 PM
Draymond Green is the guy who can pass the ball like Bill Russell. Also Draymond Green is anchoring a warriors top 5 defense this season. This Warriors team would never be this good if you replace Draymond with Klay Thompson. Draymond is the anchor of the 73 win warriors. Those same 73 win Warriors that got blasted on their home court when Draymond was suspended. Draymond is actually the mastermind behind every single warriors ring, wow.

Kawhi in 2019 beat a better version of warriors then Lebron did in 2016 because Draymond was playing every game.

Despite the perception by some russell was an elite athlete. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.basketballnetwork.net/many-people-dont-know-bill-russell-was-an-olympic-level-high-jumper/amp/

Dray is nowhere near the modern day bill russell

Spurs m8
11-22-2021, 05:27 PM
The rookie, casual fan strikes again

HBK_Kliq_2
11-22-2021, 05:52 PM
https://youtu.be/QlvfhXAc9XQ

"Its 2022 and we're still winning without you and you're still a bitch"

Draymond win share per 48 lines up about evenly with his 2016 year wow

j3lademaster
11-22-2021, 09:02 PM
He's doing it again. Anchoring the #1 defense again, has a 99 defensive rating in the spread offense era.

Has led the season in DBPM 2 different times, led playoffs in DBPM 2 different times, led playoffs in defensive win shares 4 consecutive years.

Draymond Russell is at it again.What was the Warrior's defensive rating in the 2020 season?

HBK_Kliq_2
11-22-2021, 10:54 PM
What was the Warrior's defensive rating in the 2020 season?

He was tired as shit that season after 5 straight finals and barely played. Still has a very high DBPM

Bronbron23
11-22-2021, 11:03 PM
He was tired as shit that season after 5 straight finals and barely played. Still has a very high DBPM

It's just a really bad comparison man. Bill russell was a way better athlete. He'd be the the most athletic big in the game today as is. Give him modern training and it be even more ridiculous. Dray dosn't belong in the same sentence as russell

HBK_Kliq_2
11-22-2021, 11:36 PM
It's just a really bad comparison man. Bill russell was a way better athlete. He'd be the the most athletic big in the game today as is. Give him modern training and it be even more ridiculous. Dray dosn't belong in the same sentence as russell

Leadership, defense, passing, undersized center that was the cornerstone of a dynasty.

All the similarities are there. Warriors were not shit until they drafted draymond.

Axe
11-22-2021, 11:51 PM
From labelling kawhi as the goat and then labelling draymond green as the present-day bill russell.

Op has reached the rock bottom.

Baller789
11-23-2021, 03:43 AM
Draymond Green = rich man's Boris Diaw.

HBK_Kliq_2
11-23-2021, 04:50 AM
Draymond Green = rich man's Boris Diaw.

he was the best player on the 2016 warriors finals team and led them in VORP, as well as won the first two rounds without curry.

Diaw would never be capable of that

getting_old
11-23-2021, 09:59 AM
Did bill russell ever tried to play dirty back then?


His mind games psyching out Wilt were cruel and unusual punishment.

hold this L
11-23-2021, 10:10 AM
he was the best player on the 2016 warriors finals team and led them in VORP, as well as won the first two rounds without curry.

Diaw would never be capable of that

Jeff, time to make another alt to bring this specter of a website back to life. You're getting too predictable. :lol

Bronbron23
11-23-2021, 10:56 AM
Leadership, defense, passing, undersized center that was the cornerstone of a dynasty.

All the similarities are there. Warriors were not shit until they drafted draymond.

Sure i'm not saying dray sucks dude. He has alot of great qualities but he's no bill russell. There's a difference between draymond who's maybe top 20 in the league and bill russell who's top 5 all time.

That said i agree he's as important as anyone on the warriors team as far as impact is concerned. Warriors don't win anything without him.

getting_old
11-23-2021, 11:01 AM
Dwight Howard.... IF....

you deduct half of Dwight's dominance in his prime on O, and give Dwight an injection of 100% focus/killer instinct/ruthlessness in big games...

kids 20 years from now are going to look at DH's stats and place him among the GOATs.


the only direct comparison i easily make is Durant being the New McAdoo. Watched Bob in his prime years with the Braves, and Bob also had to cover the big men of the league, picking up the gruelling rebounding duties as well.

Baller789
11-23-2021, 07:34 PM
he was the best player on the 2016 warriors finals team and led them in VORP, as well as won the first two rounds without curry.

Diaw would never be capable of that

That's why it's callled a rich man.

Axe
11-23-2021, 07:53 PM
His mind games psyching out Wilt were cruel and unusual punishment.
Ah so that's why he had a losing record when they faced each other bt huh?

Axe
01-07-2022, 02:38 AM
So the warriors lost recently against muh young core duo with donkey not playing in the game :ohwell:

Axe
01-21-2022, 02:40 AM
Another loss in chase center seemed inevitable with the donkey missing yet another game. Their opponents? The pacers without their starters.

Kawhi_Why_Not
04-27-2022, 04:48 PM
Highest +/- this playoffs:
+68 — Giannis
+63 — Draymond
+62 — Max Strus


Draymond Russell at it again, while cuck curry comes off the bench