Jazz at Peicans

[Xiao Yao You]

Going for the season sweep. Hopefully the stiff can hang with Adams!

[Axe]

Inb4 the gobert trolls will be out later

[AirBonner]

Baby Shaq gunna bully toody again

[Xiao Yao You]

Inb4 the gobert trolls will be out later

you know they're coming. They've been looking forward to it since Rudy dominated Vuc 2 days ago

[fourkicks44]

Peican pie

[L8krH8tr]

Zions Girth and Adams make Gobert look like a TWINk.

[Axe]

Seems a great start for pels

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy nailing jumpers again. Too bad the trolls don't actually watch the games

Zion might have to settle for jumpers after being denied by Gobert

[Callystarr]

Rudy nailing jumpers again. Too bad the trolls don't actually watch the games

Zion might have to settle for jumpers after being denied by Gobert

Loved it.

[RRR3]

Rudy nailing jumpers again. Too bad the trolls don't actually watch the games

Zion might have to settle for jumpers after being denied by Gobert
Zion averages 29.5 PPG on 69.7% shooting against the Jazz this year I don’t think he’s worried.

[AirBonner]

Adams having his way with toody

[AirBonner]

End of 1st q:

Gobert: 2pts 1reb

Adams: 4pts 5reb

[Callystarr]

Clearly you must not be watching the game, because Rudy is impacting the game on the defensive end, and the commentators have mentioned it on multiple occasions

[Xiao Yao You]

pretty good D in 1st. Keep it up

[Xiao Yao You]

Clearly you must not be watching the game, because Rudy is impacting the game on the defensive end, and the commentators have mentioned it on multiple occasions

they don't watch anything but box scores

[Callystarr]

they don't watch anything but box scores

I'm beginning to sense that, especially with their comments

[Callystarr]

they don't watch anything but box scores

Jordan Clarkson is really becoming a better passer

[RRR3]

I'm beginning to sense that, especially with their comments
Or maybe we’re just mocking Xiao talking about Rudy as if he’s Hakeem

[Callystarr]

Or maybe we’re just mocking Xiao talking about Rudy as if he’s Hakeem

I'm not a huge Rudy fan, but people like to talk about statistics so much, but they want to ignore them when it comes to Rudy, his impact on the offense and defense cannot be denied.

[Xiao Yao You]

Or maybe we’re just mocking Xiao talking about Rudy as if he’s Hakeem

Only one bringing up Hakeem is you

[Axe]

Only one bringing up Hakeem is you
Which only brings back the question on who's the better big man; davis or gobert? To the point that it was forced to have its own thread lmao.

[Xiao Yao You]

Not much D this quarter. Luckily the Pelicans play no D

[Callystarr]

Not much D this quarter. Luckily the Pelicans play no D

Utah's defense has not been very good lately and comparison... Perimeter defense is not good, they depend too much on Rudy's

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell sucks at the end of quarters. Give it to Conley!

[RRR3]

I'm not a huge Rudy fan, but people like to talk about statistics so much, but they want to ignore them when it comes to Rudy, his impact on the offense and defense cannot be denied.
He actually has fairly neutral or even negative impact offensively according to RPM, RAPTOR and LEBRON iirc. Massive defensive impact no doubt.

[Callystarr]

He actually has fairly neutral or even negative impact offensively according to RPM, RAPTOR and LEBRON iirc. Massive defensive impact no doubt.

You are cherry picking Advanced stats, when I can show you Advanced stats that say directly the opposite. At the end of the day these are different analytics, that have different systems that they utilized to produce these results, there's no one that is right or wrong, but like I said it depends on which Advanced stats and which analytics you want to utilize. Mike Conley is great in Raptor rating, but his PER is terrible

[Xiao Yao You]

You are cherry picking Advanced stats, when I can show you Advanced stats that say directly the opposite. At the end of the day these are different analytics, that have different systems that they utilized to produce these results, there's no one that is right or wrong, but like I said it depends on which Advanced stats and which analytics you want to utilize. Mike Conley is great in Raptor rating, but his PER is terrible

he wouldn't pick any stats that show Rudy's great impact. They aren't a top 5 offense without his screens or pressure on the rim

[Xiao Yao You]

4th all time in blocks. Here he comes Tag!

[RRR3]

You are cherry picking Advanced stats, when I can show you Advanced stats that say directly the opposite. At the end of the day these are different analytics, that have different systems that they utilized to produce these results, there's no one that is right or wrong, but like I said it depends on which Advanced stats and which analytics you want to utilize. Mike Conley is great in Raptor rating, but his PER is terrible
You’re welcome to try and find an impact stat that shows Rudy is a great or even good offensive player. Box score influenced stats like BPM, WS/48, VORP and PER do not count.

[RRR3]

Rudy nailing jumpers again. Too bad the trolls don't actually watch the games

Zion might have to settle for jumpers after being denied by Gobert
:yaohappy:

8-13, 19 points in 24 minutes.


You’re ALWAYS wrong :roll:

I’m pretty close to being convinced Zion literally can’t be guarded though, so this is hardly an indictment on Rudy, since it’s not like anyone else can stop Zion either.

[Xiao Yao You]

:yaohappy:

8-13, 19 points in 24 minutes.


You’re ALWAYS wrong :roll:

I’m pretty close to being convinced Zion literally can’t be guarded though, so this is hardly an indictment on Rudy, since it’s not like anyone else can stop Zion either.

especially since Rudy isn't guarding him

[Xiao Yao You]

You’re welcome to try and find an impact stat that shows Rudy is a great or even good offensive player. Box score influenced stats like BPM, WS/48, VORP and PER do not count.

sure let's not count the ones where he's amongst the best

[RRR3]

especially since Rudy isn't guarding him
If Rudy was capable of shutting him down he would be guarding him. Steven Adams isn’t exactly an offensive threat but then again you probably think he is because he scores so efficiently :rolleyes:

[LoneyROY7]

Looking for Toody's paint protection like:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/gIfgb4RSmErc07m4n9/source.gif

[RRR3]

sure let's not count the ones where he's amongst the best
All of those same stats say Hassan Whiteside is a HOFer and I can tell you as a Heat fan he’s a net negative. You desperately cling to outdated stats because your mad love for Rudy is so intense you have a psychological NEED for him to be great on both ends, but the fact he is he’s pretty meh in terms of offensive impact. He does his job, but he hurts spacing and is completely dependent on others to set him up.

[RRR3]

zIoN mIgHt hAvE tO taKe MiDrAnGe aGaiNsT rUdY


https://youtu.be/hIes0cweieA


Good god he bumped Rudy out of the way like he was a little kid.

[Xiao Yao You]

If Rudy was capable of shutting him down he would be guarding him. Steven Adams isn’t exactly an offensive threat but then again you probably think he is because he scores so efficiently :rolleyes:

Someone has to keep Adams off the offensive glass. A lot of ways to be an offensive threat. I realize that's tough for you to get your head around

[Callystarr]

This is one of those games that Rudy and favors should have started together, and favors minutes should have mirror Zion, is he going to stop him heyal no... they are destroying us on the boards, that is the one thing that has irritated me sometimes with Quin Snyder is he does not make adjustments very well in terms of rotation

[Xiao Yao You]

All of those same stats say Hassan Whiteside is a HOFer and I can tell you as a Heat fan he’s a net negative. You desperately cling to outdated stats because your mad love for Rudy is so intense you have a psychological NEED for him to be great on both ends, but the fact he is he’s pretty meh in terms of offensive impact. He does his job, but he hurts spacing and is completely dependent on others to set him up.

Him attracting several defenders at the rim creates open shots or spacing

[Xiao Yao You]

This is one of those games that Rudy and favors should have started together, and favors minutes should have mirror Zion, is he going to stop him heyal no... they are destroying us on the boards, that is the one thing that has irritated me sometimes with Quin Snyder is he does not make adjustments very well in terms of rotation

than you lose the spacing. That's the problem with Favors being your only PF. COTM doesn't make changes

[Xiao Yao You]

can't keep exchanging buckets

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert was on Zion on the last possession and forced him to pass

[AlternativeAcc.]

Rudy got destroyed again

Does this guy ever show up?

[tontoz]

Props to Lonzo for making himself into a legit 3 pt shooter.

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy stopped Zion 3 straight. Too many guys for 1 guy to stop though. Ingram, Lonzo, Redick...

[Xiao Yao You]

Props to Lonzo for making himself into a legit 3 pt shooter.

even made a couple of layups tonite!

[Callystarr]

than you lose the spacing. That's the problem with Favors being your only PF. COTM doesn't make changes

So what if we lose spacing, we just need to be more efficient than the other team. They're outrebounding us 51 to 36.

So clearly our problem is we do not have the size to rebound against this team, and our defense has been terrible because we have not been able to stop individuals like Zion.

[Xiao Yao You]

So what if we lose spacing, we just need to be more efficient than the other team. They're outrebounding us 51 to 36.

So clearly our problem is we do not have the size to rebound against this team, and our defense has been terrible because we have not been able to stop individuals like Zion.

As I said since last year they need a PF. Favors isn't the answer. Morgan should start but won't. Bojan should be traded for one. Won't happen

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell looks tired

[Callystarr]

As I said since last year they need a PF. Favors isn't the answer. Morgan should start but won't. Bojan should be traded for one. Won't happen

I agree with everything that you're saying, but I'm talking about existing roster choices that we could have made, and of course Morgan would have played in this game if they're both starting, I don't understand why they don't play Morgan

[Xiao Yao You]

I agree with everything that you're saying, but I'm talking about existing roster choices that we could have made, and of course Morgan would have played in this game if they're both starting, I don't understand why they don't play Morgan

If Morgan went to Duke he'd play

[RRR3]

Blatant foul by Toody :facepalm

Xiao must be reffing.

[Xiao Yao You]

Finally playing some D. Too bad Mitchell can't play 4 quarters

[Xiao Yao You]

Blatant foul by Toody :facepalm

Xiao must be reffing.

I'm at home. Sorry to disappoint

[RRR3]

Toody blows the clutch layup :roll: :roll: :roll:


Elite on offense doe!

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell doing his best Rubio impression on the lay up

[Callystarr]

Finally playing some D. Too bad Mitchell can't play 4 quarters

I hate that Utah gave him all that money, he's the least efficient shooter on the team, he's the forest decision maker.

[Xiao Yao You]

Toody blows the clutch layup :roll: :roll: :roll:


Elite on offense doe!

Rudy looks a lot like Mitchell I guess

[Xiao Yao You]

I hate that Utah gave him all that money, he's the least efficient shooter on the team, he's the forest decision maker.

Yep he should have had to earn a max deal.

[Proctor]

Next time less Gobert and more Bojan

[Xiao Yao You]

horrible

[Xiao Yao You]

Next time less Gobert and more Bojan

as good as Bojan was tonite he was probably a net negative. That's a problem

[RRR3]

This game is on Toody. He had a layup to win the game and he gagged it. What a ****ing stiff.

[Xiao Yao You]

their worst loss since the Knicks

[Xiao Yao You]

This game is on Toody. He had a layup to win the game and he gagged it. What a ****ing stiff.

the only guy playing defense and 22/9/5 blocks and it's on him sure. Not 11 -33 from the backcourt :lol

[AirBonner]

Relying on toody for offense is a losing strategy

[Xiao Yao You]

rare bad night for Ingles too

[RRR3]

the only guy playing defense and 22/9/5 blocks and it's on him sure. Not 11 -33 from the backcourt :lol
Bro you miss a layup to win the game it’s on you. You know this. I’m not denying Rudy had a great game otherwise I’m sure he did but that was an easy putback and he missed it.

[Xiao Yao You]

Bro you miss a layup to win the game it’s on you. You know this. I’m not denying Rudy had a great game otherwise I’m sure he did but that was an easy putback and he missed it.

shouldn't have been a put back. Mitchell missed a wide open layup Rubio style

[RRR3]

shouldn't have been a put back. Mitchell missed a wide open layup Rubio style
You’re not wrong although I wouldn’t call it wide open. But Mitchell blew it for sure. But Rudy has to make that putback when he’s in that position.

[k 96]

Good game by the Jazz, but an even better one by my Pelicans! :rockon:

[Xiao Yao You]

Good game by the Jazz, but an even better one by my Pelicans! :rockon:

it was hardly a good game by the Jazz

[AirBonner]

it was hardly a good game by the Jazz

A role player dropped 30+ points jazz need more help

[Xiao Yao You]

A role player dropped 30+ points jazz need more help

indeed they do. A PF and a coach for starters

[DoctorP]

Jazz lose again? They need to fill up their basketball nut sack after unloading on the Lakers

[light]

The Jazz are 3-3 over their last 6 and have to face the Sixers next.

Lakers will probably take over the no. 1 seed before long.

[ZionDunks]

Zion Williamson is playing like an mvp

Seriously I’ve never seen a dude on a roll like this. Dominating. Saving Bum Van Gundy’a
Job

[Xiao Yao You]

The Jazz are 3-3 over their last 6 and have to face the Sixers next.

Lakers will probably take over the no. 1 seed before long.

not likely. The Jazz schedule is easier over the 2nd half

[Xiao Yao You]

Zion Williamson is playing like an mvp

Seriously I’ve never seen a dude on a roll like this. Dominating. Saving Bum Van Gundy’a
Job

maybe if he plays any D

[Callystarr]

Next time less Gobert and more Bojan

Gobert is consistent night in and night out

[Callystarr]

Why arent you on jazz nation fb page them jazz fans need your input lol..

[Marchesk]

maybe if he plays any D

Also maybe if the Pelicans had a winning record. Their whole team played well and finally managed to close out a game. Lonzo is looking like a legitimate starter.

[Manny98]

Straight bullied

https://streamable.com/1ryyjp

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.nba.com/watch/video/utah-jazz-highlights-vs-new-orleans-pelicans-84hper?plsrc=nba&game-highlights=0022000533

first play here the bully gets bullied. Great players making plays against each other. NBA basketball. You new to the sport? :confusedshrug:

[Xiao Yao You]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1366559631477121025

[Xiao Yao You]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1366558575728893952

pretty! Hit another one that didn't count

[Manny98]

First time I have ever seen Rudy hit a jumpshot wow amazing!

[RRR3]

If you watch Zion’s highlights from yesterday there are legit like 5-6 plays he bullies Rudy on :lol

https://youtu.be/gynIqgnKrew

[Marchesk]

If you watch Zion’s highlights from yesterday there are legit like 5-6 plays he bullies Rudy on :lol

https://youtu.be/gynIqgnKrew

At least one of those is an offensive foul, but he's getting the Shaq benefit of the doubt from the refs already.

[RRR3]

At least one of those is an offensive foul, but he's getting the Shaq benefit of the doubt from the refs already.
I believe it was Kblaze who advised you to just stop hating on him now before you end up suffering like LeBron haters do. It’s always a losing battle to hate on generational talents.

[Marchesk]

I believe it was Kblaze who advised you to just stop hating on him now before you end up suffering like LeBron haters do. It’s always a losing battle to hate on generational talents.

I'll make up my own mind on the matter, thanks. And it's not like Lebron stans don't hate on every other generational talent like KD or Steph. Or AD when he gets too much credit for the Laker's success.

[tontoz]

Seems like Zion can bully anybody. It isn't fair for someone to be that big and that quick.

25.5 ppg shooting 62% at age 20. If i was in the NBA and had to guard him i might try the load management thing lol.

[Xiao Yao You]

At least one of those is an offensive foul, but he's getting the Shaq benefit of the doubt from the refs already.

He was leading with elbows. The defender already is at a disadvantage these days. Zion has enough to work with at 285. He doesn't need more help

[Xiao Yao You]

The Jump: SVG on Zion: “Someday, he’s going to start to get the calls he deserves” (https://*********.com/social/) #NBA #NBATwitter #TheJump #WontBowDown
– via Twitter NBATheJump (https://twitter.com/NBATheJump)





against him hopefully

[RRR3]

against him hopefully
God damn you are so butthurt :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

I'll make up my own mind on the matter, thanks. And it's not like Lebron stans don't hate on every other generational talent like KD or Steph. Or AD when he gets too much credit for the Laker's success.


Its well within your rights. Lots of people decide to be lames. For every great player....hell human of any kind....there’s a flock of painfully lame guys looking to downplay everything they do and hate on someone they don’t know.

You will never be alone in that. Lames multiply at astounding rates when great things are being done.

Some 19 year old could get called up to the big leagues and hit 22 home runs in 8 games and someone just like you would be ready to talk about how many of those games his team lost and what Mickey Mantle did as a rookie.

Thats the nature of greatness. It makes lames pop out of the ground like mushrooms after rain.

You’re always under there waiting to be activated by someone being praised for their great play or deeds.

An unpleasant part of life.

[ZionDunks]

Did the Peicans win