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TheGoatest
03-04-2021, 03:35 AM
Prior to the 2013-14 season LeBron had made 5 straight All-defensive 1st teams.
In the 2013-14 season he made the All-defensive 2nd team.
Then, in the following 6 seasons he hasn't made any all-defensive teams.

Quite an abrupt change, isn't it?

Well, guess what? Prior to the 2013-14 season, the NBA coaches selected all-defensive team members. Starting with the 2013-14 season the media selected the all-defensive teams.

Now, what was it you LeBron haters like to call him? "LeSPN"? Preaching the gospel that LeBron is a media-manufactured star?

In fact, the empirical evidence shows that you should thank your lucky stars that media is the one who votes for awards and honors. Because if it was the coaches, who actually go against him on a nightly basis who were voting, LeBron would have:

3-4 more MVPs
1-2 DPOYs
2015 Finals MVP
Several more All-defensive selections

You have no greater ally than the LeBron-hating media. And if LeBron doesn't win the MVP this season, it will be the media that comes to your rescue once again.

warriorfan
03-04-2021, 03:37 AM
Jason Terry

TheGoatest
03-04-2021, 03:43 AM
Jason Terry

Stephen Curry has:

-Lost the Finals MVP to Andre Iguodala
-Received fewer Finals MVP votes than a player from a team that lost the finals
-Received fewer Finals MVP votes than Fred VanVleet

The dude is a HUMAN FINALS MVP TROPHY REPELLENT. :roll:

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/025/91e/5cb67d260ccf703e1d6bbe0689b9b4e0c4-bug-zapper-lede.rsquare.w700.jpg

The hilarious thing is that had the Warriors won the 2016 Finals, he wouldn't have gotten that Finals MVP either. It would've been Draymond, or still Lebron. :oldlol:

warriorfan
03-04-2021, 03:44 AM
Stephen Curry has:

-Lost the Finals MVP to Andre Iguodala
-Received fewer Finals MVP votes than a player from a team that lost the finals
-Received fewer Finals MVP votes than Fred VanVleet

The dude is a HUMAN FINALS MVP TROPHY REPELLENT. :roll:

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/025/91e/5cb67d260ccf703e1d6bbe0689b9b4e0c4-bug-zapper-lede.rsquare.w700.jpg

The hilarious thing is that had the Warriors won the 2016 Finals, he wouldn't have gotten that Finals MVP either. It would've been Draymond, or still Lebron. :oldlol:

Did he ever get outscored in the NBA Finals by Jason Terry?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
03-04-2021, 03:44 AM
Only made All Defense teams with 2 of the best defensive coaches of the millenium in Mike Brown and Erik Spoelstra

Didnt play a lick of defense in his return to Cleveland

Lakers didnt improve at all defensively with him in 2019

Got AD, DPOY Dwight, Danny, Vogel and became an elite defense

Then got Denis, DPOY Marc, Wes and Trez while losing Dwight and Danny and remained elite

thankfully the voters weren't blinded by the narrative that "Bran is playing great defense" when the reality is he just gets to freelance while being surrounded by elite defenders at every position and one of the best defensive minds of this era

FultzNationRISE
03-04-2021, 03:44 AM
Prior to the 2013-14 season LeBron had made 5 straight All-defensive 1st teams.
In the 2013-14 season he made the All-defensive 2nd team.
Then, in the following 6 seasons he hasn't made any all-defensive teams.

Quite an abrupt change, isn't it?

Well, guess what? Prior to the 2013-14 season, the NBA coaches selected all-defensive team members. Starting with the 2013-14 season the media selected the all-defensive teams.

Now, what was it you LeBron haters like to call him? "LeSPN"? Preaching the gospel that LeBron is a media-manufactured star?

In fact, the empirical evidence shows that you should thank your lucky stars that media is the one who votes for awards and honors. Because if it was the coaches, who actually go against him on a nightly basis who were voting, LeBron would have:

3-4 more MVPs
1-2 DPOYs
2015 Finals MVP
Several more All-defensive selections

You have no greater ally than the LeBron-hating media. And if LeBron doesn't win the MVP this season, it will be the media that comes to your rescue once again.

https://cdn.mscdirect.com/global/images/ProductImages/3535450-21.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/dtnd0y8HUgwsIjm4ZZ/giphy.gif

Axe
03-04-2021, 03:52 AM
Stephen Curry has:

-Lost the Finals MVP to Andre Iguodala
-Received fewer Finals MVP votes than a player from a team that lost the finals
-Received fewer Finals MVP votes than Fred VanVleet

The dude is a HUMAN FINALS MVP TROPHY REPELLENT. :roll:

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/025/91e/5cb67d260ccf703e1d6bbe0689b9b4e0c4-bug-zapper-lede.rsquare.w700.jpg

The hilarious thing is that had the Warriors won the 2016 Finals, he wouldn't have gotten that Finals MVP either. It would've been Draymond, or still Lebron. :oldlol:
He is one of those who believe that no fmvp is more iconic than this

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKVEJbfRgZ56MdI4QLLMtTU7tnFGJv8 _l_OQ&usqp=CAU

aj1987
03-04-2021, 04:01 AM
Only made All Defense teams with 2 of the best defensive coaches of the millenium in Mike Brown and Erik Spoelstra

Didnt play a lick of defense in his return to Cleveland

Lakers didnt improve at all defensively with him in 2019

Got AD, DPOY Dwight, Danny, Vogel and became an elite defense

Then got Denis, DPOY Marc, Wes and Trez while losing Dwight and Danny and remained elite

thankfully the voters weren't blinded by the narrative that "Bran is playing great defense" when the reality is he just gets to freelance while being surrounded by elite defenders at every position and one of the best defensive minds of this era

You are a ****ing idiot. Mike Brown was a trash ass coach (even defensively) without LeBron. Remember his stint with the Lakers? Of Course you don't.

Harrell is a mediocre defender and Gasol has been average at best. The Lakers without AD have still maintained a crazy good defensive rating.

In the 4 games Schroder and AD missed, the Lakers held their opponents to 111 points a night. This is WITH an OT game in there as well, in which they gave up 127 points.

Held the Nets to 109 points (they score 121 a game and are the #1 offense).

Held the Jazz to 114 points (they score 116.4 a game and are the #2 offense).

Held the Heat to 96 points (they score 106.9 a game).

All those game were without AD AND Schroder.

LeBron shits on K_ as a defender that has you hurting right now. Even current LeBron is miles better than peak K_ as a defender.


LeBron is also currently 2nd in the league in defensive win shares.

LeBron is also currently 5th in the league in defensive rating.

LeBron is also currently 9th in the league in defensive RPM, with the next closest Laker being AD at 31.

Not matter how much you throw out random autistic and inane ramblings, facts are facts.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
03-04-2021, 04:10 AM
You are a ****ing idiot. Mike Brown was a trash ass coach (even defensively) without LeBron. Remember his stint with the Lakers? Of Course you don't.

Harrell is a mediocre defender and Gasol has been average at best. The Lakers without AD have still maintained a crazy good defensive rating.

In the 4 games Schroder and AD missed, the Lakers held their opponents to 111 points a night. This is WITH an OT game in there as well, in which they gave up 127 points.

Held the Nets to 109 points (they score 121 a game and are the #1 offense).

Held the Jazz to 114 points (they score 116.4 a game and are the #2 offense).

Held the Heat to 96 points (they score 106.9 a game).

All those game were without AD AND Schroder.

LeBron shits on K_ as a defender that has you hurting right now. Even current LeBron is miles better than peak K_ as a defender.


LeBron is also currently 2nd in the league in defensive win shares.

LeBron is also currently 5th in the league in defensive rating.

LeBron is also currently 9th in the league in defensive RPM, with the next closest Laker being AD at 31.

Not matter how much you throw out random autistic and inane ramblings, facts are facts.

Stopped reading at Mike Brown isnt an elite defensive coach. Sorry Apu facts are facts. 13th in defense is far higher than that Lakers personell had any business of being.

A bad Cavs team went from 27th to 19th on defense with him too.

Hes been the defensive coach for the Warriors too and theyre a top 5 defense this season.

aj1987
03-04-2021, 04:12 AM
Stopped reading at Mike Brown isnt an elite defensive coach. Sorry Apu facts are facts. 13th in defense is far higher than that Lakers personell had any business of being.

A bad Cavs team went from 27th to 19th on defense with him too.

You are a ****ing idiot. Mike Brown was a trash ass coach (even defensively) without LeBron. Remember his stint with the Lakers? Of Course you don't.

Harrell is a mediocre defender and Gasol has been average at best. The Lakers without AD have still maintained a crazy good defensive rating.

In the 4 games Schroder and AD missed, the Lakers held their opponents to 111 points a night. This is WITH an OT game in there as well, in which they gave up 127 points.

Held the Nets to 109 points (they score 121 a game and are the #1 offense).

Held the Jazz to 114 points (they score 116.4 a game and are the #2 offense).

Held the Heat to 96 points (they score 106.9 a game).

All those game were without AD AND Schroder.

LeBron shits on K_ as a defender that has you hurting right now. Even current LeBron is miles better than peak K_ as a defender.


LeBron is also currently 2nd in the league in defensive win shares.

LeBron is also currently 5th in the league in defensive rating.

LeBron is also currently 9th in the league in defensive RPM, with the next closest Laker being AD at 31.

Not matter how much you throw out random autistic and inane ramblings, facts are facts, chimp.

Spurs m8
03-04-2021, 05:21 AM
WOULD have dpoy hahaha okay

Stfu clown....facts are LeSiv has no DPOY

Post 2014 he doesn't even have all defensive team
OR EVEN ALL DEFENSIVE SECOND TEAM HAHAHA
And as you said...thats even with the media voting...and they slurp this bitch on the daily...because they are paid to do so

Kuzma has to literally push this clown into his spots because he is terrible.

Axe
03-04-2021, 05:30 AM
Kuzma? Wtf you talking about, buffoon. :yaohappy:

dankok8
03-04-2021, 11:27 AM
Lebron's defense fell off quite sharply after 2013. Even in 2014 it was much worse than before. He had a brief resurgence in the 2016 playoffs but his defense never reached elite levels again after 2013 with any kind of consistency.

Airupthere
03-04-2021, 11:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZlvjFqb5kE

StrongLurk
03-04-2021, 11:46 AM
Lebron should've made All-Defense last year, and should this year. But who knows if the media will vote for him.

All-defense teams awards are like 80% narrative anyways, pretty unimportant.

LeCramp
03-04-2021, 11:51 AM
You are a ****ing idiot. Mike Brown was a trash ass coach (even defensively) without LeBron. Remember his stint with the Lakers? Of Course you don't.

Harrell is a mediocre defender and Gasol has been average at best. The Lakers without AD have still maintained a crazy good defensive rating.

In the 4 games Schroder and AD missed, the Lakers held their opponents to 111 points a night. This is WITH an OT game in there as well, in which they gave up 127 points.

Held the Nets to 109 points (they score 121 a game and are the #1 offense).

Held the Jazz to 114 points (they score 116.4 a game and are the #2 offense).

Held the Heat to 96 points (they score 106.9 a game).

All those game were without AD AND Schroder.

LeBron shits on K_ as a defender that has you hurting right now. Even current LeBron is miles better than peak K_ as a defender.


LeBron is also currently 2nd in the league in defensive win shares.

LeBron is also currently 5th in the league in defensive rating.

LeBron is also currently 9th in the league in defensive RPM, with the next closest Laker being AD at 31.

Not matter how much you throw out random autistic and inane ramblings, facts are facts, chimp.

Calm down son defending a man who gives no shits about you....you're weird bro smh

TheGoatest
03-04-2021, 03:13 PM
Lebron should've made All-Defense last year, and should this year. But who knows if the media will vote for him.

Considering he was overwhelmingly a G and not F last season, he should've definitely been all-defense 1st team. The anti-LeBron media didn't even give him 2nd.
I mean, it's so obvious that there are people in the media who have actual votes and impact on how players get rewarded for their play that are just as insecure and butthurt about LeBron as there are losers and their alts on this forum.

Bronbron23
03-04-2021, 03:44 PM
Prior to the 2013-14 season LeBron had made 5 straight All-defensive 1st teams.
In the 2013-14 season he made the All-defensive 2nd team.
Then, in the following 6 seasons he hasn't made any all-defensive teams.

Quite an abrupt change, isn't it?

Well, guess what? Prior to the 2013-14 season, the NBA coaches selected all-defensive team members. Starting with the 2013-14 season the media selected the all-defensive teams.

Now, what was it you LeBron haters like to call him? "LeSPN"? Preaching the gospel that LeBron is a media-manufactured star?

In fact, the empirical evidence shows that you should thank your lucky stars that media is the one who votes for awards and honors. Because if it was the coaches, who actually go against him on a nightly basis who were voting, LeBron would have:

3-4 more MVPs
1-2 DPOYs
2015 Finals MVP
Several more All-defensive selections

You have no greater ally than the LeBron-hating media. And if LeBron doesn't win the MVP this season, it will be the media that comes to your rescue once again.

Bruh wtf are u going on about? Bron in general hasn't played great defense in the regular season for the last 6 years or so. Not because he can't. He's just saving himself for post season where he picks up the intensity and plays all defense type defense. Dpoys and all defense are regular season awards though.

Bron is definitely still one of the best defenders in the game when he's engaged. He just dosn't do it consistently throughout the regular season to earn an award or team defense.

2much_knowledge
03-05-2021, 03:16 AM
Its amazing how Aj and goatness (maybe the same person) go in depth, so in detail and insightful when they make their passionate lebron rants but ouside of lebron, they make retarded post and nonsense opinions. Why won't you guys try to apply it to other subjects too? Lol

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
03-05-2021, 03:21 AM
Its amazing how Aj and goatness (maybe the same person) go in depth, so in detail and insightful when they make their passionate lebron rants but ouside of lebron, they make retarded post and nonsense opinions. Why won't you guys try to apply it to other subjects too? Lol

Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

2much_knowledge
03-05-2021, 03:30 AM
Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

Ohh. I see

Airupthere
03-05-2021, 11:59 AM
Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

:lebronamazed:

TheGoatest
03-06-2021, 12:26 AM
Bruh wtf are u going on about? Bron in general hasn't played great defense in the regular season for the last 6 years or so. Not because he can't. He's just saving himself for post season where he picks up the intensity and plays all defense type defense. Dpoys and all defense are regular season awards though.

Bron is definitely still one of the best defenders in the game when he's engaged. He just dosn't do it consistently throughout the regular season to earn an award or team defense.

GTFO with you trying to milk the "LeBron doesn't play defense" reputation generated by haters. Your counter-argument that he doesn't play defense consists of posting random, out of context gifs and youtube videos of a some player scoring while being guarded by LeBron, as if you couldn't do that with Bill Russell.
There is a ton of evidence that he was tremendous on the defensive end last season, easily worthy of all-defensive selection.
The fact that the media is anti-LeBron has been exposed. It cannot be refuted.

Bronbron23
03-06-2021, 12:49 AM
GTFO with you trying to milk the "LeBron doesn't play defense" reputation generated by haters. Your counter-argument that he doesn't play defense consists of posting random, out of context gifs and youtube videos of a some player scoring while being guarded by LeBron, as if you couldn't do that with Bill Russell.
There is a ton of evidence that he was tremendous on the defensive end last season, easily worthy of all-defensive selection.
The fact that the media is anti-LeBron has been exposed. It cannot be refuted.

Nah dude. I watch plenty of lakers games and cle games when he was there. You got your stan goggles on. Anyone can see bron hasn't played elite defensive consistently in the reg season in a while with the exception last year and this year he's been good . during his cle run and his first year with lakers he was mediocre during reg season and then He would definitely amp it up come playoffs. Your reasoning makes no sense. The nba gave bron first team all defense for years straight. Why would they all of a sudden just stop giving it to him?

Just look at brons drtg over the last 6 years. During miami when he was first team defense his drtg was low 100's. Then he gets to cle and his drtg is high 100's. Just a coincidence though right? Lately his been better. Last year they could of gave him a first team defense. Not a dpoy though.

LAL
03-06-2021, 01:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZlvjFqb5kE

That's not a ball player. That's a clown.

TheGoatest
03-06-2021, 07:04 AM
Nah dude. I watch plenty of lakers games and cle games when he was there. You got your stan goggles on. Anyone can see bron hasn't played elite defensive consistently in the reg season in a while with the exception last year and this year he's been good . during his cle run and his first year with lakers he was mediocre during reg season and then He would definitely amp it up come playoffs. Your reasoning makes no sense. The nba gave bron first team all defense for years straight. Why would they all of a sudden just stop giving it to him?

Just look at brons drtg over the last 6 years. During miami when he was first team defense his drtg was low 100's. Then he gets to cle and his drtg is high 100's. Just a coincidence though right? Lately his been better. Last year they could of gave him a first team defense. Not a dpoy though.

Well, you're at least somewhat better than the other haters because at least you admit that he got robbed of an all-defensive selection last season.

His defensive rating last season was better than Ben Simmons' this season.

As for those Cavs seasons, he carried the worst defensive supporting cast of all time that ended up winning a championship. Nobody on those Cavs could play a lick of defense. At one point, there was an analysis that concluded Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love to be literally the worst pick and roll defensive duo in the entire league. Yet he was the one strong link in that atrocious defensive chain. As a small forward, he averaged 2.3 blocks over 7 finals games to lead everyone in the 2016 finals, and was the Cavs best and only rim protector throughout the series.

YouTube videos, eh?

How about this one showing LeBron completely neutralizing MVP Giannis (well, LeBron was the real MVP as he went on to prove in the playoffs, but that's another story) in the Lakers-Bucks game, right before the league shut down due to Covid-19:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9t8XPWD_cU

Or this one where he played tremendous defense on Kawhi in the Lakers-Clippers meeting in the bubble, right down to the buzzer where he forced him to pass the ball to Paul George, whom he also forced to miss:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7elOsgDL7Cc

Or then him confirming his regular season defensive prowess in the playoffs, when he shut down Jamal Murray, who had multiple 50 point plus multiple other 40+ games in the playoffs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PC28KS58xY

LeBron haters agenda = EXPOSED

:oldlol:

Bronbron23
03-06-2021, 01:37 PM
Well, you're at least somewhat better than the other haters because at least you admit that he got robbed of an all-defensive selection last season.

His defensive rating last season was better than Ben Simmons' this season.

As for those Cavs seasons, he carried the worst defensive supporting cast of all time that ended up winning a championship. Nobody on those Cavs could play a lick of defense. At one point, there was an analysis that concluded Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love to be literally the worst pick and roll defensive duo in the entire league. Yet he was the one strong link in that atrocious defensive chain. As a small forward, he averaged 2.3 blocks over 7 finals games to lead everyone in the 2016 finals, and was the Cavs best and only rim protector throughout the series.

YouTube videos, eh?

How about this one showing LeBron completely neutralizing MVP Giannis (well, LeBron was the real MVP as he went on to prove in the playoffs, but that's another story) in the Lakers-Bucks game, right before the league shut down due to Covid-19:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9t8XPWD_cU

Or this one where he played tremendous defense on Kawhi in the Lakers-Clippers meeting in the bubble, right down to the buzzer where he forced him to pass the ball to Paul George, whom he also forced to miss:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7elOsgDL7Cc

Or then him confirming his regular season defensive prowess in the playoffs, when he shut down Jamal Murray, who had multiple 50 point plus multiple other 40+ games in the playoffs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PC28KS58xY

LeBron haters agenda = EXPOSED

:oldlol:

Dude all those videos are of bron on lakers where i already said he's first team defense worthy.

As far as the cavs being trash defensively i Don't think you know what your talking about. they had weak links but they weren't as bad as your going on about. Actually in the playoffs when bron was engaged they were pretty good defensively. They held one of the best offensive teams ever to multiple sub 100 point games. They won in 16 because of their defensive not their offense.

TheGoatest
03-07-2021, 10:46 AM
Dude all those videos are of bron on lakers where i already said he's first team defense worthy.

As far as the cavs being trash defensively i Don't think you know what your talking about. they had weak links but they weren't as bad as your going on about. Actually in the playoffs when bron was engaged they were pretty good defensively. They held one of the best offensive teams ever to multiple sub 100 point games. They won in 16 because of their defensive not their offense.

Yeah. Because of LeBron.
The 2016 Cavs' offensive rating was 3rd in the league. Their defensive rating was 10th. That is remarkably low by championship team standards, who are always around top 5 in defensive rating. Aside from LeBron, they didn't have a single noteworthy rim protector or lockdown perimeter defender. Aside from LeBron, their best rim protector was Tristan Thompson, whose career high average in bpg is 1.1, and their best perimeter defender was Iman Shumpert, who was a great defender very early in his career with the Knicks and has been living on that reputation ever since. Those Cavs were as close to an "All-O, No-D" championship team as it gets.

Bronbron23
03-07-2021, 05:41 PM
Yeah. Because of LeBron.
The 2016 Cavs' offensive rating was 3rd in the league. Their defensive rating was 10th. That is remarkably low by championship team standards, who are always around top 5 in defensive rating. Aside from LeBron, they didn't have a single noteworthy rim protector or lockdown perimeter defender. Aside from LeBron, their best rim protector was Tristan Thompson, whose career high average in bpg is 1.1, and their best perimeter defender was Iman Shumpert, who was a great defender very early in his career with the Knicks and has been living on that reputation ever since. Those Cavs were as close to an "All-O, No-D" championship team as it gets.

Yeah forsure lebron was the best defender and main reason why they got much better. They had solid pieces though. Tristan, iman and jr at thw time wete very goid defensively. Plus what you said kind of supports my claim that bron doesn't go full out in regular season compared to playoffs. If it's all bron why the great improvement defensively between reg and post season?

dankok8
03-07-2021, 06:12 PM
There are several SF's who were better defensively than Lebron even last year... Kawhi, Siakam, Covington, Butler, Tucker just off of the top of my head. He was definitely a positive defensive player though.

aj1987
03-08-2021, 01:39 AM
Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

You're the retard who jumped ship from the Thunder to the Spurs to the Warriors to the Raptors and now the Nets. CP3 has a better chance of winning a title before you stop running from team to team like a ho. Also, link me to ONE post where I put down Wade only to prop up LeBron. Just one. ****ing idiot.

Spo is a top 10 GOAT coach? Put down the crack pipe, unplug your computer, and drink a gallon of bleach. Not really surprising, considering some of the shit you post here, including saying that Anthony Davis was a garbage player.

warriorfan
03-08-2021, 01:49 AM
Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

:roll:

All these fake bran stan heat fans came out of the woodwork after the decision. Check apu and them’s registration dates :lol . Then bran ghosted them. Now they just show up every once in awhile to make an angry post to defend their bran. :roll:

TheGoatest
03-08-2021, 02:09 AM
Yeah forsure lebron was the best defender and main reason why they got much better. They had solid pieces though. Tristan, iman and jr at thw time wete very goid defensively. Plus what you said kind of supports my claim that bron doesn't go full out in regular season compared to playoffs. If it's all bron why the great improvement defensively between reg and post season?

Just because Tristan and Iman were better defensively than they were offensively doesn't mean they were particularly good defensive players. None of LeBron's supporting cast from the 2016 Cavs had a single all-defensive selection throughout their entire careers. Technically Anderson Varejao did, but he barely played. But go and check how many championship teams throughout history had only one player who was all-defense in his career. Hakeem's Rockets and that's about it.

Spurs m8
03-08-2021, 03:50 AM
:roll:

All these fake bran stan heat fans came out of the woodwork after the decision. Check apu and them’s registration dates :lol . Then bran ghosted them. Now they just show up every once in awhile to make an angry post to defend their bran. :roll:

Explains why AJ always seems so upset :roll::roll:

TheGoatest
03-08-2021, 04:28 AM
There are several SF's who were better defensively than Lebron even last year... Kawhi, Siakam, Covington, Butler, Tucker just off of the top of my head. He was definitely a positive defensive player though.

Kawhi wasn't able to put the clamps on Jamal Murray when he dropped 40 on the Clippers in game 7, like LeBron was able to do in his Denver series. Nor Giannis in the regular season for that matter.
Those other names are laughable.
Also, LeBron played guard last season, not forward.

scuzzy
03-08-2021, 05:08 AM
Another dominant thread victory for Lebron Fam, exploded right out the gate into a murderous killing spree.


Spit roasted

aj1987
03-08-2021, 07:58 AM
Another dominant thread victory for Lebron Fam, exploded right out the gate into a murderous killing spree.


Spit roasted

Not really difficult when dealing with obese losers afflicted with autism. :cheers:

Crack boy and Cuck m8 still melting down in this thread? One more title for LeBron, and the would have two less single digit IQ cretins. :oldlol: