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Kblaze8855
03-04-2021, 02:51 PM
https://youtu.be/6VbcBkfokiI

Beautiful? Inefficient? What’s your take?

Would a coach allow that to happen in 2021?

Does it? It may and I’ve just not noticed. Someone get me the most shots taken by a guard with no 3s this year. I’d care to know but not enough to investigate. I’m gonna go get an oil change while someone figures that out.

SouBeachTalents
03-04-2021, 03:07 PM
It's gotta be this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbezMUTAtg8&ab_channel=NBAHighlights

LoneyROY7
03-04-2021, 03:09 PM
Kobe was impressive...because of his skill set. Not because of all the long 2s, but because of his ability to break down the defense from different angles.

T-mac was meh. He's always been a guy who took a ton of jumpshots, who wasn't a great jumpshooter. Hyped off one year. Never been super impressed tbh.

Airupthere
03-04-2021, 03:14 PM
I notice much less dribbling. Just a few jab steps and shimmies and that's it.

SouBeachTalents
03-04-2021, 03:30 PM
Anyone curious about Jordan's, 45 shot attempts without a single 3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AQuOvE7iZQ&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights

ShawkFactory
03-04-2021, 03:42 PM
Kobe was impressive...because of his skill set. Not because of all the long 2s, but because of his ability to break down the defense from different angles.

T-mac was meh. He's always been a guy who took a ton of jumpshots, who wasn't a great jumpshooter. Hyped off one year. Never been super impressed tbh.

He was scoring 27 a game, swatting shots and dunking on people for 2 years before 2003.

RRR3
03-04-2021, 03:44 PM
He was scoring 27 a game, swatting shots and dunking on people for 2 years before 2003.
He’s always been butthurt about T-Mac for some reason.

LoneyROY7
03-04-2021, 03:47 PM
There's nothing I'm butthurt about T-mac for, no personal issue with him whatsoever. I judge players off of what I see. I've watched plenty of T-mac and he has never been visually impressive to me.

His offense was centered around pull-up jumpshots and he wasn't a great jumpshooter. It is what it is.

ShawkFactory
03-04-2021, 03:49 PM
There's nothing I'm butthurt about T-mac for, no personal issue with him whatsoever. I judge players off of I what I see. I've watched plenty of T-mac and he has never been visually impressive to me.

His offense centered around pull jumpshots and he wasn't a great jumpshooter. It is what it is.

I think you need to watch him some more. That might have been the case his later years in Houston but Orlando Tmac could do literally everything offensively.

LoneyROY7
03-04-2021, 03:52 PM
I think you need to watch him some more. That might have been the case his later years in Houston but Orlando Tmac could do literally everything offensively.

Nope, I've watched a lot of his Orlando work.

ShawkFactory
03-04-2021, 03:55 PM
Nope, I've watched a lot of his Orlando work.

Then I'm confused at the why you think he was just a jump shooter. He was very skilled at getting to the basket and finishing. And his passing ability as a 2 was second to pretty much no one.

RRR3
03-04-2021, 03:56 PM
I think you need to watch him some more. That might have been the case his later years in Houston but Orlando Tmac could do literally everything offensively.
T-Mac was basically done after 2005. Anyone harping on his “inefficiency” clearly isn’t familiar with the league wide efficiency at the time he was playing in. He definitely became inefficient in his later Houston years after injuries reduced his abilities but at his best he was not inefficient relative to the league, and especially considering volume. I really hate when people compare modern day efficiency to people who had their best years between 98-04. League wide TS% was ****ing 51.6% in 2004. It’s 57.2% today. Comparing stats from different eras without context is absurd.

LoneyROY7
03-04-2021, 04:02 PM
Then I'm confused at the why you think he was just a jump shooter. He was very skilled at getting to the basket and finishing. And his passing ability as a 2 was second to pretty much no one.

He could finish, but he wasn't overly quick in the half-court, hence the reason he settled for a ton of pull-up jumpers. You compare him to Kobe at that time for example, Kobe was just more dynamic...the first step, the handles, just a way more fluid scorer.

paksat
03-04-2021, 04:08 PM
Kobe was impressive...because of his skill set. Not because of all the long 2s, but because of his ability to break down the defense from different angles.

T-mac was meh. He's always been a guy who took a ton of jumpshots, who wasn't a great jumpshooter. Hyped off one year. Never been super impressed tbh.

he shots 1% less than kobe for his career from 2 point land and 1% better than kobe from 3 point land

his shooting % was also being dropped down in houston as he fought injury after injury

so I don't get you're coming from with this, his team was also way worse in orlando than the lakers.

Airupthere
03-04-2021, 04:15 PM
He could finish, but he wasn't overly quick in the half-court, hence the reason he settled for a ton of pull-up jumpers. You compare him to Kobe at that time for example, Kobe was just more dynamic...the first step, the handles, just a way more fluid scorer.

I would say at that time, prime for prime, it was really close.

red1
03-04-2021, 04:26 PM
you desperately need some chucking with how bad some of these current offenses are at times



we couldve used a fearless chucker the last two years. they dont make fearless chuckers the way they used to.

ShawkFactory
03-04-2021, 04:59 PM
He could finish, but he wasn't overly quick in the half-court, hence the reason he settled for a ton of pull-up jumpers. You compare him to Kobe at that time for example, Kobe was just more dynamic...the first step, the handles, just a way more fluid scorer.

He first step and footwork certainly weren’t quite on par with Kobe, but he had some of the best handles I’ve ever seen, and he was extremely crafty with how he used them. I view him as like a 6’8 Kyrie with not quite as consistent of a jumper.

Mr. Woke
03-04-2021, 06:15 PM
Kobe and Tmac were chuckers.

Gimme LBJ and KD any day of the week.

Axe
03-04-2021, 10:49 PM
The best missers back in the day