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Doomsday Dallas
03-08-2021, 09:39 PM
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Doomsday Dallas
03-08-2021, 09:59 PM
https://www.nfl.com/news/dak-prescott-cowboys-agree-to-new-contract
The Dallas Cowboys answered the offseason's largest looming question with a simple announcement Monday.
Dallas announced Monday the franchise has agreed to terms on a new contract with franchise quarterback Dak Prescott. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Prescott signed a four-year, $160 million deal to stay in Dallas.
The deal has a maximum value of $164 million, including $126 million in guaranteed money, and includes two key details: A no-trade clause, and a no-tag provision. Prescott's deal averages to $42 million a year over the first three seasons with $75 million in the first season and a $66 million signing bonus.
If we're ever going to get the job done, it's gonna be through the Offense.
Maybe, just maybe we can have a rebuilt defense by the year 2022... but we're gonna have to hit on more than one draft pick this year.
I suspect we will go with a cornerback at #10... but would prefer a defensive lineman.
Carbine
03-09-2021, 01:16 PM
Crazy money and terms for a good not great QB.
~primetime~
03-09-2021, 01:25 PM
I'm a bit torn TBH...the money is not as bad as it looks as it's set up to spread over 6 years and the cap hit is only $22m this year.
BUT...it really is a LOT of money
Here's the deal though...the alternative is Andy Dalton...Cowboys basically put in the position of overpaying Dak or moving forward without a QB and restarting the search completely which can take years.
Ton of money? I mean what the hell were you expecting for a franchise QB in the NFL? That’s the going rate for a franchise QB. He deserves every penny.
Doomsday Dallas
03-09-2021, 06:13 PM
The list has officially been updated with Prescott's salary cap figure. An estimated $5 million left in cap space left
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/
The way I see it, We have our star players set for the next 3-4 years.
Prescott & Zeke with Tyron, Z.Martin, L.Collins on the O-line and Cooper & Lamb as the weapons at WR.
You can't ask for much more than that on offense going into the next 3-4 years. I try to have faith in Tyron Smith's health, but have lost faith in LVE. LVE can no longer be depended on, so a LB is still needed on this roster.
We're not going to be able to resign any of the players we develop, so our window of opportunity is short.
Chidobe Awuzie, Jourdan Lewis, Xavier Woods will sign elsewhere which is why we should go CB at #10. Anthony Brown and Donovan Wilson should be solid in the secondary for 2021 but are UFAs after that.
Just build around D-Law, Jaylon Smith, T.Diggs best we can. Randy Gregory should be a beast in 21' if everything works out, just wish we could get Aldon Smith back. Also... more will be expected from Neville Gallimore (DT).
Still got a year left of Michael Gallop and two years of Pollard. We will see if Jarwin can hold up at TE, but Dalton Schultz is a solid back up.
All that said... I just can't imagine the Cowboys drafting anything but Defense with pick #10 and #44
DE, DT, CB, S, LB .... we will need help at all 5 spots going into 2022.
2022 will most likely be the only year in Dak's 4 year contract where he competes for that #1 seed.
I think it's possible he gets to the NFC championship game if all goes well in the next two drafts.
2021: 9-7
2022: 12-4
2023: 8-8
2024: 8-8
record over 4 year contract: 37-27, NFC championship game appearance
If Dak can do something like that, it will be money well spent imo.
Duderonomy
03-09-2021, 10:14 PM
They were unwilling to sign him when he was healthy, but now that he’s damaged goods they sign him to an elite contract? :roll:
Doomsday Dallas
03-09-2021, 10:52 PM
They were unwilling to sign him when he was healthy, but now that he’s damaged goods they sign him to an elite contract? :roll:
I'm okay with it I guess... everyone got hurt last year.
Injuries aside, We will be a top 5 offensive juggernaut in the league for the next 3-4 years.
We just need to scrape together a defense that can play worth a $hit... that will be the challenge here.
Doomsday Dallas
03-09-2021, 11:24 PM
DeMarcus Lawrence DE $25,000,000
Dak Prescott QB $22,200,000
Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000
Zack Martin G $17,018,000
Tyron Smith LT $14,025,000
Ezekiel Elliott RB $13,700,000
La'el Collins RT $12,050,000
Jaylon Smith ILB $9,800,000
Anthony Brown CB $5,750,000
Blake Jarwin TE $4,546,875
Leighton Vander Esch OLB $3,769,748
CeeDee Lamb WR $3,184,094
Connor Williams G $2,960,998
Greg Zuerlein K $2,833,333
Michael Gallup WR $2,665,495
Chris Jones P $2,500,000
Dalton Schultz TE $2,296,092
Jamize Olawale FB $1,750,000
Trevon Diggs CB $1,436,570
Trysten Hill DT $1,328,175
Darian Thompson FS $1,293,750
Dorance Armstrong DE $1,087,499
Neville Gallimore DT $1,063,739
Tony Pollard RB $1,016,945
Connor McGovern G $1,000,527
Randy Gregory DE $1,000,000
Reggie Robinson CB $962,318
Tyler Biadasz C $903,600
Donovan Wilson S $881,839
Brandon Knight RT $851,668
Terence Steele LT $783,333
Desperately need help on the Defensive Line and Secondary.
#10 - CB
#44 - DT
#75 - DE/LB
resign Aldon Smith.
resign Joe Looney
10-6 record is possible.
Duderonomy
03-09-2021, 11:34 PM
DeMarcus Lawrence DE $25,000,000
Dak Prescott QB $22,200,000
Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000
Zack Martin G $17,018,000
Tyron Smith LT $14,025,000
Ezekiel Elliott RB $13,700,000
La'el Collins RT $12,050,000
Jaylon Smith ILB $9,800,000
Anthony Brown CB $5,750,000
Blake Jarwin TE $4,546,875
Leighton Vander Esch OLB $3,769,748
CeeDee Lamb WR $3,184,094
Connor Williams G $2,960,998
Greg Zuerlein K $2,833,333
Michael Gallup WR $2,665,495
Chris Jones P $2,500,000
Dalton Schultz TE $2,296,092
Jamize Olawale FB $1,750,000
Trevon Diggs CB $1,436,570
Trysten Hill DT $1,328,175
Darian Thompson FS $1,293,750
Dorance Armstrong DE $1,087,499
Neville Gallimore DT $1,063,739
Tony Pollard RB $1,016,945
Connor McGovern G $1,000,527
Randy Gregory DE $1,000,000
Reggie Robinson CB $962,318
Tyler Biadasz C $903,600
Donovan Wilson S $881,839
Brandon Knight RT $851,668
Terence Steele LT $783,333
Desperately need help on the Defensive Line and Secondary.
#10 - CB
#44 - DT
#75 - DE/LB
resign Aldon Smith.
resign Joe Looney
10-6 record is possible.
If Jerry is serious about getting #4 before he kicks the bucket. He should have made a play for Deshaun or Wilson. Dak plays ok with he has help ,he's a borderline game manager. If the team is dogsh** he's gonna play awful. I cant see him having 3 good/great playoff games in a row to make or win a Superbowl.
Carbine
03-10-2021, 01:46 AM
Ton of money? I mean what the hell were you expecting for a franchise QB in the NFL? That’s the going rate for a franchise QB. He deserves every penny.
Tag him and prove he's worth the price coming off a big injury. I think someone from Philly would understand this concept seeing as their team had to swallow the biggest dead cal hit in a trade ever by giving Wentz a big extension prematurely.
Tag him and prove he's worth the price coming off a big injury. I think someone from Philly would understand this concept seeing as their team had to swallow the biggest dead cal hit in a trade ever by giving Wentz a big extension prematurely.
Wentz deal wasn’t bad. The team built around him was. The friction between him and Doug was.
Doomsday Dallas
03-10-2021, 08:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odHF8Yrkbw0
press conference w/ Jerry
Nanners
03-11-2021, 04:53 AM
Tag him and prove he's worth the price coming off a big injury. I think someone from Philly would understand this concept seeing as their team had to swallow the biggest dead cal hit in a trade ever by giving Wentz a big extension prematurely.
They tagged him last year, if they tagged him again and he had a good season he would have been preposterously expensive to keep next year.
~primetime~
03-11-2021, 11:04 AM
IIRC in reading the other day, tagging Dak was not an option for Dallas as it would have been his 2nd tag year and would have cost mid-$40M which is a number they couldn't possibly fit into this year's salary cap.
So the options were giving Dak this current contract, or moving forward with Andy Dalton and/or using up a high draft pick on a QB
I do think this is to much money for a QB coming off an injury like Dak's...BUT I do favor this direction as opposed to the alternative.
Carbine
03-11-2021, 11:16 AM
Tag and trade him for a bunch of picks then.
This roster would have been nice on a rookie QB contract. The offensive supporting cast is already in place for the QB, and those picks plus all that money they wouldn't have to give Dak could have been used to build a good defense before the rookie QB deal is up.
Probably could have built the defense up as soon as this year considering you could have went out and got two big time starters with Daks cap hit.
The problem with this Cowboys team isn't Dak, he's a good QB. It's the fact they don't have a defense and probably can't build one unless they hit the jackpot in the draft like the Seahawks did in the Richard Sherman draft where you are getting HOF type players in the fifth round.
Nanners
03-11-2021, 11:21 AM
IMO they're better off with an expensive but promising QB and zero cap room to improve their shitty defense, versus having a shit QB and enough cap space to sign two or three high end defensive free agents.
~primetime~
03-11-2021, 11:42 AM
Last season one the biggest issues believe it or not was the offensive line. Actually last season was a disaster from top to bottom pretty much, I really can't even think of anything positive, I guess CeeDee Lamb looks like the stud he is supposed to be, that's about it.
DeMarcus Lawrence is likely to be cut, if not cut it is a 100% certainty his contract will be restructured...he is $25m in cap space this coming year which is actually more than Dak will be.
Carbine
03-11-2021, 12:01 PM
The offensive line was hurt last year, they are presumably healthy to start this year.
Carbine
03-11-2021, 12:04 PM
IMO they're better off with an expensive but promising QB and zero cap room to improve their shitty defense, versus having a shit QB and enough cap space to sign two or three high end defensive free agents.
I agree with that, of course Dalton isn't the answer.
But had they traded Dak to Carolina for example for the #8 and future first round and taken a guy like Justin Fields or Zach Wilson. Thats enticing.
Charlie Sheen
03-11-2021, 12:56 PM
Tag and trade him for a bunch of picks then.
This roster would have been nice on a rookie QB contract. The offensive supporting cast is already in place for the QB, and those picks plus all that money they wouldn't have to give Dak could have been used to build a good defense before the rookie QB deal is up.
Probably could have built the defense up as soon as this year considering you could have went out and got two big time starters with Daks cap hit.
The problem with this Cowboys team isn't Dak, he's a good QB. It's the fact they don't have a defense and probably can't build one unless they hit the jackpot in the draft like the Seahawks did in the Richard Sherman draft where you are getting HOF type players in the fifth round.
What team is going to pay a bunch of picks for Dak? Its a buyers market. The Eagles couldn't even get a guaranteed first for Wentz.
Nanners
03-11-2021, 01:01 PM
But had they traded Dak to Carolina for example for the #8 and future first round and taken a guy like Justin Fields or Zach Wilson. Thats enticing.
its def possible that a trade like that works out in their favor, and it could ultimately put them over the top ... but its gotta be pretty damn hard to take that dive when you already have a young QB like Dak who has shown some flashes of greatness
Nanners
03-11-2021, 01:06 PM
What team is going to pay a bunch of picks for Dak? Its a buyers market. The Eagles couldn't even get a guaranteed first for Wentz.
Thats because the eagles destroyed Wentzs trade value
The Rams just traded away 2 firsts, a third, and Goff to get Matt Stafford... plenty of teams will give up a bunch of picks for a good QB
Charlie Sheen
03-11-2021, 01:32 PM
Thats because the eagles destroyed Wentzs trade value
The Rams just traded away 2 firsts, a third, and Goff to get Matt Stafford... plenty of teams will give up a bunch of picks for a good QB
The Rams and the Colts are out of the bidding. The Panthers would be bidding against who by offering this year's #8? Dak would enter a trade market where teams like Bears and Raiders are in a holding pattern Watson or Wilson to become officially available.
Doomsday Dallas
03-11-2021, 04:45 PM
DeMarcus Lawrence is likely to be cut, if not cut it is a 100% certainty his contract will be restructured...he is $25m in cap space this coming year which is actually more than Dak will be.
They restructured the offensive line's contract (Smith, Martin, and Collins)
Cowboys offensive linemen Zack Martin, Tyron Smith and La'el Collins have agreed to restructure their contracts ahead of the 2021 season, according to ESPN's Todd Archer. The restructures will clear roughly $17 million in salary cap space.
I think D-Law would be on the chopping block next year if he doesn't give us double digit sacks.
Doomsday Dallas
03-12-2021, 12:04 AM
DeMarcus Lawrence DE $25,000,000
Dak Prescott QB $22,200,000
Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000
Zack Martin G $17,018,000
Tyron Smith LT $14,025,000
Ezekiel Elliott RB $13,700,000
La'el Collins RT $12,050,000
Jaylon Smith ILB $9,800,000
Anthony Brown CB $5,750,000
Blake Jarwin TE $4,546,875
Leighton Vander Esch OLB $3,769,748
CeeDee Lamb WR $3,184,094
Connor Williams G $2,960,998
Greg Zuerlein K $2,833,333
Michael Gallup WR $2,665,495
Chris Jones P $2,500,000
Dalton Schultz TE $2,296,092
Jamize Olawale FB $1,750,000
Trevon Diggs CB $1,436,570
Trysten Hill DT $1,328,175
Darian Thompson FS $1,293,750
Dorance Armstrong DE $1,087,499
Neville Gallimore DT $1,063,739
Tony Pollard RB $1,016,945
Connor McGovern G $1,000,527
Randy Gregory DE $1,000,000
Reggie Robinson CB $962,318
Tyler Biadasz C $903,600
Donovan Wilson S $881,839
Brandon Knight RT $851,668
Terence Steele LT $783,333
DeMarcus Lawrence DE $25,000,000
Dak Prescott QB $22,200,000
Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000
Zack Martin G $9,968,000
Tyron Smith LT $7,350,000
Ezekiel Elliott RB $13,700,000
La'el Collins RT $6,800,000
Jaylon Smith ILB $9,800,000
Anthony Brown CB $5,750,000
Blake Jarwin TE $4,546,875
Leighton Vander Esch OLB $3,769,748
CeeDee Lamb WR $3,184,094
Connor Williams G $2,960,998
Greg Zuerlein K $2,833,333
Michael Gallup WR $2,665,495
Chris Jones P $2,500,000
Dalton Schultz TE $2,296,092
Jamize Olawale FB $1,750,000
Trevon Diggs CB $1,436,570
Trysten Hill DT $1,328,175
Darian Thompson FS $1,293,750
Dorance Armstrong DE $1,087,499
Neville Gallimore DT $1,063,739
Tony Pollard RB $1,016,945
Connor McGovern G $1,000,527
Randy Gregory DE $1,000,000
Reggie Robinson CB $962,318
Tyler Biadasz C $903,600
Donovan Wilson S $881,839
Brandon Knight RT $851,668
Terence Steele LT $783,333
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/
$20 million in cap space.
Although the salary cap limit is suppose to be lowered to $182.5 million so idk how much space we have.
2022
Dak Prescott QB $33,200,000 15.00 %
DeMarcus Lawrence DE $27,000,000 12.20 %
Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000 9.94 %
Zack Martin G $20,209,000 9.13 %
Tyron Smith LT $17,505,000 7.91 %
Ezekiel Elliott RB $16,500,000 7.45 %
La'el Collins RT $15,250,000 6.89 %
Jaylon Smith ILB $11,800,000 5.33 %
$161 million, 73.85% of the cap.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/2022/
Duderonomy
03-12-2021, 06:34 PM
Meanwhile the Pats got Cam for 14 mil and
About $6 million of the deal is tied to incentives
Give Cam all the weapons Dak has had plus 25 mil to spend on other players. https://giphy.com/gifs/nfl-newton-cam-cameron-L3oTUQIDkDJzRu6mzF
baudkarma
03-15-2021, 02:07 PM
Tag him and prove he's worth the price coming off a big injury. I think someone from Philly would understand this concept seeing as their team had to swallow the biggest dead cal hit in a trade ever by giving Wentz a big extension prematurely.
And what if he does prove himself? I'm assuming that the Cowboys worked him out and don't have any major concerns about his long-term health. If Dallas tags him in 2021 he counts 37.68 million against the cap, fully guaranteed. After the season, the Cowboys can either let him walk as an unrestricted free agent and get into bidding wars with every other team that thinks they're a QB away from being a contender, or they could franchise for the third season in a row. The cost of that third tag would be a little over $54 million. All fully guaranteed, and all counting directly against the 2022 cap.
Jerry Jones screwed up by not getting a deal in place with Dak after the 2019 season. He kept trying to "win" the negotiations by insisting on a five year deal, but Dak had all the leverage and wasn't going to budge off of four years. A deal signed after the 2019 season would have saved the Cowboys a few million.
baudkarma
03-15-2021, 02:48 PM
Meanwhile the Pats got Cam for 14 mil and
About $6 million of the deal is tied to incentives
Give Cam all the weapons Dak has had plus 25 mil to spend on other players. https://giphy.com/gifs/nfl-newton-cam-cameron-L3oTUQIDkDJzRu6mzF
The Patriots got Cam for that price because he had a terrible year in 2020. He finished 30th out of 33 eligible players in QBR, and that's a statistic that takes into account his running yards. He threw for 8 TDs and 10 interceptions. He was so ineffective that he was actually pulled in the middle of a few games and replaced with his backup. If you put him on the Cowboys he'd be better, sure. But not that much better. He's still not taking them to the playoffs unless the rest of the East is as pathetic as it was last season.
~primetime~
03-15-2021, 02:57 PM
And what if he does prove himself? I'm assuming that the Cowboys worked him out and don't have any major concerns about his long-term health. If Dallas tags him in 2021 he counts 37.68 million against the cap, fully guaranteed. After the season, the Cowboys can either let him walk as an unrestricted free agent and get into bidding wars with every other team that thinks they're a QB away from being a contender, or they could franchise for the third season in a row. The cost of that third tag would be a little over $54 million. All fully guaranteed, and all counting directly against the 2022 cap.
Jerry Jones screwed up by not getting a deal in place with Dak after the 2019 season. He kept trying to "win" the negotiations by insisting on a five year deal, but Dak had all the leverage and wasn't going to budge off of four years. A deal signed after the 2019 season would have saved the Cowboys a few million.
This 100%
Jerry should have signed Dak a long time a ago....would have been a big deal at the time but overall would have been a much better deal for Dallas.
Doomsday Dallas
03-15-2021, 06:05 PM
The deal was for $175 for 5 years. Dak said no deal. ($35 per year)
We end up getting him for $160 over 4 years... ($40 per year) + the $31 million he was franchised for in 2020.
$191 over 5 years is what Dak will make out with compared to the $175 mil that was offered.
Dak did about $15 - $16 million better than the original offer... Idk if his contract being spread out over 6 years is that much of a benefit to Jerry, or if that was structured in the original deal, but it should help us maneuver around the cap a little better.
I suppose Jerry could've offered him $180-$185 million and saved himself $5-$10 million.... but rumor was Dak was wanting a 4 year deal (in 2020) so he could get an even bigger contract in 2024, now he has to wait until 2025.
clipps
03-15-2021, 07:31 PM
Damn. A lot of money to the Cowboys triplets just to go 8-8. You Cowboys fans have low standards.
Carbine
03-16-2021, 03:09 PM
And what if he does prove himself? I'm assuming that the Cowboys worked him out and don't have any major concerns about his long-term health. If Dallas tags him in 2021 he counts 37.68 million against the cap, fully guaranteed. After the season, the Cowboys can either let him walk as an unrestricted free agent and get into bidding wars with every other team that thinks they're a QB away from being a contender, or they could franchise for the third season in a row. The cost of that third tag would be a little over $54 million. All fully guaranteed, and all counting directly against the 2022 cap.
Jerry Jones screwed up by not getting a deal in place with Dak after the 2019 season. He kept trying to "win" the negotiations by insisting on a five year deal, but Dak had all the leverage and wasn't going to budge off of four years. A deal signed after the 2019 season would have saved the Cowboys a few million.
If he proves himself he probably goes for the same amount. They didn't get any kind of discount on this one. They paid the absolute most for someone of his caliber. He's the second highest paid player in the NFL right?
Carbine
03-16-2021, 03:24 PM
My whole thing is - and it's not wrong to disagree with me - but the history of Superbowl winners with these big QB deals as the foundation of the team is rare.
At the end of the day winning the chip should be all that matters. Im going to take out Brady because he routinely has taken way below market value for a player of his value.
Teams that have won on a rookie QB deal since they've changed the payout structure for rookies.
Flacco
Roethlisberger
Rodgers
Wilson
Wentz (even though the backup won the title the team was still on a rookie QB deal)
All of those teams are excellent up and down the roster. That's a lot easier, though still incredibly hard because of the flexibility a rookie QB gives the salary cap, especially these days.
I think the Cowboys were the perfect candidate to win on a rookie QB deal. They already have an elite supporting cast on offense to surround the QB and all the extra money AND draft assets they got for Dak would have bolstered the defense in one off season.
I know someone mentioned earlier that there wouldn't be a big trade market for Dak. That person is kidding themselves. He would have gotten the Cowboys a haul. GMs have showed over and over again how incompetent they are. Someone may have offered three firsts if they were desperate enough, like the Bears who probably feel like they are a top ten QB away from winning a title.
Doomsday Dallas
05-08-2021, 08:00 PM
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/17/66/07/20931041/3/ratio3x2_400.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Int25_Qbwa8
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/galvnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/d3/1d32d45b-1529-5fdd-956a-8e9dc8679a95/608b6c9d89638.image.jpg
Duderonomy
05-09-2021, 01:24 PM
Have fun paying an top 15 QB 40 mill a season when they couldn't win with him making 2mil. Even the Rams and Eagles cut bait from their franchise QBs because they were only average .
Doomsday Dallas
05-13-2021, 11:09 PM
https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/73/2021/05/Dallas_TampaBay_W1_matchup.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w29dubyyiD4
Nanners
05-14-2021, 04:53 AM
My whole thing is - and it's not wrong to disagree with me - but the history of Superbowl winners with these big QB deals as the foundation of the team is rare.
At the end of the day winning the chip should be all that matters. Im going to take out Brady because he routinely has taken way below market value for a player of his value.
Teams that have won on a rookie QB deal since they've changed the payout structure for rookies.
Flacco
Roethlisberger
Rodgers
Wilson
Wentz (even though the backup won the title the team was still on a rookie QB deal)
All of those teams are excellent up and down the roster. That's a lot easier, though still incredibly hard because of the flexibility a rookie QB gives the salary cap, especially these days.
I think the Cowboys were the perfect candidate to win on a rookie QB deal. They already have an elite supporting cast on offense to surround the QB and all the extra money AND draft assets they got for Dak would have bolstered the defense in one off season.
I know someone mentioned earlier that there wouldn't be a big trade market for Dak. That person is kidding themselves. He would have gotten the Cowboys a haul. GMs have showed over and over again how incompetent they are. Someone may have offered three firsts if they were desperate enough, like the Bears who probably feel like they are a top ten QB away from winning a title.
I have been trying to promote this argument on this forum for years, and folks around here have almost universally treated me like im crazy :oldlol:
Not saying that the cowboys should have traded or let Dak walk... but theres no question that a QB overperforming their salary is highly correlated with superbowl wins (ignoring Brady)
In addition to the examples you mentioned, Mahomes was also on his rookie contract when the chiefs won.
Charlie Sheen
05-14-2021, 10:35 AM
IMO they're better off with an expensive but promising QB and zero cap room to improve their shitty defense, versus having a shit QB and enough cap space to sign two or three high end defensive free agents.
I missed this the first time I was in this thread. You're describing the last 4 seasons of seahawks football, right?
Nanners
05-14-2021, 12:31 PM
I missed this the first time I was in this thread. You're describing the last 4 seasons of seahawks football, right?
pretty sure its been more than 4 seasons :(
clipps
05-21-2021, 09:24 AM
8-8-1
Joey Turnbuckle
05-22-2021, 11:26 AM
Dak is black!
Doomsday Dallas
08-22-2021, 10:35 PM
https://hyperpix.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/the-prestige-logo-font-free-download-1200x900.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnIPaB5puMM
ROCSteady
08-24-2021, 02:24 PM
You ppl better pray to the Almighty his foot and shoulder hold up for the entire season.
No excuses. Your team has too much talent to continually be shite
clipps
09-03-2021, 03:59 AM
You Cowboy fakkets sure do have low standards when evaluating NFL talent.
Doomsday Dallas
09-03-2021, 08:16 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4aG2WHXoAAPUdq.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QMZ32Cc_A
baudkarma
09-04-2021, 11:12 AM
Have a look at the AT&T Stadium 2021 Suite Catering menu:
https://ss-marketing-content.s3.amazonaws.com/Catering+Landing+Pages/2021+Catering+Information/2021+Dallas+Cowboys+Suites+Menu.pdf
Background information... if you lease a luxury suite at AT&T Stadium, you are not allowed to bring in your own food and beverages. Everything must be purchased through Legends Catering, which oh by the way is owned by Jerry Jones. And the prices... I realize this is all going to be a tax writeoff for the suite owner, but the prices are mind-boggling. For example...
Assorted Gummi Bears or Butter Flavored Popcorn that serves 16-20 people: $1635
Chicken & Waffles for 1 person: $170
Pepperoni Pizza: $85
Kids meal: $30
2 gallons of iced tea: $60
Don't forget the 18% "service fee" and state sales tax that will be added to your order. Also don't forget to tip your suite attendant generously.
Doomsday Dallas
10-08-2021, 08:18 PM
https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTg0MzcyOTU5MTQ0NTg0Njgy/ee8b6291-72c8-4946-9cea-9dfadd67edcb.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O22BNakTsF8
emotional speech from -PT- there at the end.
Doomsday Dallas
10-20-2021, 08:10 PM
https://www.dafont.com/forum/attach/orig/1/3/13243.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHxuLFyPDKk
Doomsday Dallas
11-06-2021, 04:40 PM
https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox4news.com/www.fox4news.com/content/uploads/2021/11/764/432/COWBOYS-HELMET_mp4_00.00.06.24.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1F_PrHcj0M
Doomsday Dallas
11-07-2021, 10:08 PM
https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox4news.com/www.fox4news.com/content/uploads/2021/11/764/432/COWBOYS-HELMET_mp4_00.00.06.24.png
^ never again will I support that Stripe on the helmet. We've lost the right to carry the title of America's Team.
We are The Dallas Cowboys, not America's Team.
Week 9 was completely unacceptable, and as a representative of Cowboys Nation I have officially removed our "America's Team" status until we're holding SB trophy #6.
America doesn't deserve to be embarrassed like this.
bladefd
11-07-2021, 11:39 PM
^ never again will I support that Stripe on the helmet. We've lost the right to carry the title of America's Team.
We are The Dallas Cowboys, not America's Team.
Week 9 was completely unacceptable, and as a representative of Cowboys Nation I have officially removed our "America's Team" status until we're holding SB trophy #6.
America doesn't deserve to be embarrassed like this.
You will be right back to being a Cowboys homer in a few days. TBH, you Cowboys fans have been too predictable and pathetic over the last 25 years. Exactly why I can't stand your entire fanbase.
Doomsday Dallas
11-12-2021, 07:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uvFBF9aLM
Nanners
11-21-2021, 12:54 PM
I saw you rollin the other day dooms
https://i.ibb.co/80kPDsM/1637278429729-1.jpg
Doomsday Dallas
11-21-2021, 04:21 PM
I saw you rollin the other day dooms
https://i.ibb.co/80kPDsM/1637278429729-1.jpg
lol, I would never bring that much attention to myself... gotta keep a low profile in today's world.
we all need to remember what Frank Lucas taught us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PasZID3gui0
Duderonomy
11-21-2021, 08:49 PM
Dak wasn't back this week, the Chiefs raw dogged the boys.
Doomsday Dallas
11-21-2021, 09:43 PM
Dak wasn't back this week, the Chiefs raw dogged the boys.
Defense kept the game somewhat close.
missing Tyron, Amari, Lamb... but yes, Dak got outplayed today. Give the Chiefs defense credit.
Duderonomy
11-21-2021, 09:50 PM
Defense kept the game somewhat close.
missing Tyron, Amari, Lamb... but yes, Dak got outplayed today. Give the Chiefs defense credit.
Not saying they could've won
But 2 Red zone ints against a good team like the Chiefs.
Doomsday Dallas
11-21-2021, 09:52 PM
I'm happy we're at 7-3, but losing to the Raiders on Thursday would really suck.
need to get to 8-3 on Thanksgiving, rest up for 10 days and finish these remaining 6 games without any major injuries.
unlikely we will capture that 1st round bye, but all will be well as long we can stay healthy.
baudkarma
11-24-2021, 02:59 PM
One thing about the Cowboys that doesn't seem to have changed from the Garrett days. If they're missing a key player or two the whole team just falls apart. Other teams can lose a starting lineman or two or three, their best receiver, even their starting QB and still put up a respectable fight. Not the Cowboys.
Doomsday Dallas
11-24-2021, 09:30 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE5mQIkaUAAobaS.jpg
Pawn Sacrifice (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro04vhMQEQk)
Doomsday Dallas
11-29-2021, 09:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjngcTz3s0U
Duderonomy
11-30-2021, 09:54 PM
Good thing the Boys don't play in the AFC West 1-3 and they barely beat the chargers. Dallas will still make the playoffs but they can't beat the Bucs or Packers on the road.
Doomsday Dallas
12-14-2021, 10:29 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3f/e4/eb/3fe4ebda63f1e1020f458abfc20fc9c6.jpg
https://i.redd.it/jz9c9jdx8y081.png
Doomsday Dallas
12-15-2021, 03:11 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6x99IAjsvjgy
Charlie Sheen
12-15-2021, 06:41 PM
i got back into sports betting just to lay 500 on the boys to win the whole thing. :cheers:
i will not be held responsible as a jinx if they lose
Doomsday Dallas
12-21-2021, 08:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDm5iq_Iypc
https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Micah-Parsons-Cowboys-Trevor-Diggs.jpg
Duderonomy
12-23-2021, 10:04 AM
i got back into sports betting just to lay 500 on the boys to win the whole thing. :cheers:
i will not be held responsible as a jinx if they lose
Well the Bucs lost Goodwin . So it's between the Rams, Pack and Cowboys now.
I'm surprised Dooms didn't make a NFC east banner yet. Not that it means much
Doomsday Dallas
12-27-2021, 04:01 AM
I'm surprised Dooms didn't make a NFC east banner yet. Not that it means much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5rF80wLXAI
Doomsday Dallas
12-31-2021, 02:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ozTDDKtgo
https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Kyler-Murray-Cardinals-Cowboys-1200x900.jpg
Nanners
12-31-2021, 03:34 PM
I have hated the cowboys almost my entire life, but for some reason I find myself kinda rooting for them this year... I dunno why I suddenly feel this way, I guess I'm gonna claim its because I want dooms and primetime to be happy
Doomsday Dallas
12-31-2021, 05:49 PM
I have hated the cowboys almost my entire life, but for some reason I find myself kinda rooting for them this year... I dunno why I suddenly feel this way, I guess I'm gonna claim its because I want dooms and primetime to be happy
My youngest son is now 13, about the same age I was when the Cowboys won back 2 back Super Bowls in 92' & 93' ... about 30 years ago. (29 to be exact)
Been watching almost every game with him this season. I just want him to enjoy a DALLAS Super Bowl victory like I did when I was younger. That would be special.
Got to witness a NFL dynasty in my teenage years, and the greatest NBA ring ever achieved in my adult years,... can't ask for much more than that.
Dallas doesn't get the sweet taste of success in the sports world very often ... but when it does happen, it's f*cking magical.
The window of SB opportunity is going to be there for 3 years with Lamb, Parsons, Diggs, and Dak... We're a force again. Not quite like the early 90's but close enough.
Nanners
12-31-2021, 06:18 PM
My youngest son is now 13, about the same age I was when the Cowboys won back 2 back Super Bowls in 92' & 93' ... about 30 years ago. (29 to be exact)
Been watching almost every game with him this season. I just want him to enjoy a DALLAS Super Bowl victory like I did when I was younger. That would be special.
Got to witness a NFL dynasty in my teenage years, and the greatest NBA ring ever achieved in my adult years,... can't ask for much more than that.
Dallas doesn't get the sweet taste of success in the sports world very often ... but when it does happen, it's f*cking magical.
The window of SB opportunity is going to be there for 3 years with Lamb, Parsons, Diggs, and Dak... We're a force again. Not quite like the early 90's but close enough.
I am very happy to hear that. My dad grew up in new england and he is a huge patriots fan, and I was around 10 years old when we watched Brady win his first title... in the following years me and the old man had a lot of memorable and special times watching football together, and were still getting together almost every weekend to watch a game or two.
That said, lets not get too carried away with the Dallas stuff. The mavs title run was pretty damn epic, but was it really a greater championship than the Pistons in 2004 or the Cavs in 2016?
Anyway, the boys seem to have a phenomenal SB window right now, especially with their situation on defense. Parsons and Diggs are arguably the best in the entire league at their respective positions and they both locked into rookie contracts for the next couple years. Dak looks like one of the best QBs in the league and he has an insanely stacked group of receivers to throw at. The o-line is great and Zeke is great. It seems like the only potential weak spot on the team is McCarthy... if Dallas had a top tier coach they would be terrifying.
Doomsday Dallas
12-31-2021, 07:44 PM
That said, lets not get too carried away with the Dallas stuff. The mavs title run was pretty damn epic, but was it really a greater championship than the Pistons in 2004 or the Cavs in 2016?
It was greater... and It was basically the last opportunity for a title for three great players: Dirk, Kidd, and Marion, so much was on the line.
And you have to factor in our playoff run against Kobe & Durant... It wasn't just about beating the ultimate Super Team in the finals. Who did the CAVS and PISTONS beat going into the finals? I don't even remember. But people do remember Kobe, Phil and the Lakers getting swept.
Lebron has gone on to win it again... 16' Cavs is probably #2 in terms of "epic" and 04' Piston's #3... No doubt these 3 are the holy trinity of greatest and most cherished NBA rings ever... but sorry, Dallas is #1, not by much... but enough to where it should be clear to any average NBA fan without bias/favoritism.
If the Cowboys can beat Brady, Rodgers, and Mahomes in the Super Bowl... A doomsday defense led by rookie MLB Parsons... that's a potential scenario that could be more epic than my 2011 Mavs.
Hopefully we stay healthy these last two weeks and capture the #2 or #3 seed... looks like GB is getting the first round BYE.
Duderonomy
12-31-2021, 09:03 PM
I forgot Ware won a ring with Denver. https://www.patspulpit.com/2021/12/30/22860621/richard-seymour-pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-finalist-2022-nfl-wilfork
Nanners
12-31-2021, 10:50 PM
It was greater... and It was basically the last opportunity for a title for three great players: Dirk, Kidd, and Marion, so much was on the line.
And you have to factor in our playoff run against Kobe & Durant... It wasn't just about beating the ultimate Super Team in the finals. Who did the CAVS and PISTONS beat going into the finals? I don't even remember. But people do remember Kobe, Phil and the Lakers getting swept.
Lebron has gone on to win it again... 16' Cavs is probably #2 in terms of "epic" and 04' Piston's #3... No doubt these 3 are the holy trinity of greatest and most cherished NBA rings ever... but sorry, Dallas is #1, not by much... but enough to where it should be clear to any average NBA fan without bias/favoritism.
Now that I think about it a bit more, I tend to agree.
That mavs championship was amazing... I mean how on earth do you win a championship with either JJ Barea or Deshawn Stevenson and a 38 year old Jason Kidd as your 2 starting guards? I remember being blown away by Jason Kidds defense in that series, he shut down Lebron about as well as anyone I have ever seen.
If the Cowboys can beat Brady, Rodgers, and Mahomes in the Super Bowl... A doomsday defense led by rookie MLB Parsons... that's a potential scenario that could be more epic than my 2011 Mavs.
Hopefully we stay healthy these last two weeks and capture the #2 or #3 seed... looks like GB is getting the first round BYE.
I think its going to come down to coaching. The cowboys seem to have as much talent as anyone.
Doomsday Dallas
01-07-2022, 12:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9pAEa2IGy0
Duderonomy
01-09-2022, 11:54 AM
The boys are probably going to play the Cardinals, maybe the Rams if San Francisco balls out today. They aren't a lock to beat either one.
Duderonomy
01-09-2022, 08:44 PM
Cowboys-49ers, it's the 1990's again.
Doomsday Dallas
01-16-2022, 07:40 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-20-2015/Gue4TR.gif
Doomsday Dallas
01-22-2022, 01:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uvFBF9aLM
see you mfers at the end of 2022... and hopefully at the beginning of 2023
week 10's hype video sums up the entire 21/22 season.
imdaman99
01-23-2022, 06:46 PM
Lol Dak sucks against the rest of the NFL. Yeah he dominates the NFC East, drops 51 points on them multiple times a year. But I'm sorry the playoffs will not be NFC east opponent in the 1st round, NFC east opponent in the divisional round and then an NFC east opponent in the nfc championship game :lol
1987_Lakers
01-23-2022, 08:30 PM
Ezekiel Elliott is a perfect example why you never draft a RB in the top 10. Dude was a beast in his first few years in the NFL and now he is pretty pedestrian. Why do RB's have such short primes? I can't name one RB that was dominant in their 30's.
AirBonner
01-23-2022, 10:22 PM
Ezekiel Elliott is a perfect example why you never draft a RB in the top 10. Dude was a beast in his first few years in the NFL and now he is pretty pedestrian. Why do RB's have such short primes? I can't name one RB that was dominant in their 30's.
Cuz they get crushed by defenses literally on every other play?
Doomsday Dallas
01-24-2022, 12:20 AM
Ezekiel Elliott is a perfect example why you never draft a RB in the top 10. Dude was a beast in his first few years in the NFL and now he is pretty pedestrian. Why do RB's have such short primes? I can't name one RB that was dominant in their 30's.
I agree... never draft RB with an early 1st.
the stats may suggest otherwise... but Zeke really only gave us one dominate season: his rookie year, after that he lost a step.
This year it looks like he lost another step.
He's a durable and tough Running Back.... but the skills & speed obviously aren't what they use to be.
He'll be gone after next year. Probably play 2-3 more years for another team and retire.
We're gonna ride out 4 more years of Dak (1st year over)... and then move on from him too.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/ezekiel-elliott-18952/
You can afford to overpay for a decent a middle of the pack QB, but you can't overpay the RB too.
1987_Lakers
01-24-2022, 12:34 AM
Cuz they get crushed by defenses literally on every other play?
That is one factor, yes. But humans in general start running slower after age 25, I think that factors into it as well. The RB position relies so much on quickness and speed.
Nanners
01-27-2022, 02:40 AM
I think its going to come down to coaching. The cowboys seem to have as much talent as anyone.
called it
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