How many Finals was Lebron as dominant as 06' Wade?

[3ball]

Jordan - 5 times (91', 92', 93', 97', 98')


Highest "Clutch Points" in Finals History (last 5 within 5)

1) 98' Jordan... 30 points
2) 06' Wade..... 26 points
3) 97' Jordan... 22 points

[SATAN]

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[3ball]

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It's a good question imo

It's debatable whether Lebron has any becauseWade dominated the scoring load (far more than his sidekick), while lebron always needed an equal-scoring partner or close to it

Teammate scoring matters because equal-scoring teammates attract equal defensive attention, so Wade was facing the kitchen sink

[SATAN]

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[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW28jVKqg20

[Axe]

Op claimed he dunked on zach randolph lmao

[Manny98]

2016 - GOAT finals
2017 - 33/12/10 against the GOAT team
2018 - 34/8/10 against the GOAT team
2020 - 30/12/10 off GOAT efficiency

So Lebron had 4 god tier finals performances

Has Jordan had a finals as dominant as 2016 LeBron?

[DoctorP]

2016 - GOAT finals
2017 - 33/12/10 against the GOAT team
2018 - 34/8/10 against the GOAT team
2020 - 30/12/10 off GOAT efficiency

So Lebron had 4 god tier finals performances

Has Jordan had a finals as dominant as 2016 LeBron?

Warriors had a shitty defense

[Manny98]

Warriors had a shitty defense
The 2017 Warriors literally had the second best defense in the league :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

The 2017 Warriors literally had the second best defense in the league :oldlol:

not the other years

[DoctorP]

fine, whatever. Kong's good. we know

[3ball]

2016 - GOAT finals
2017 - 33/12/10 against the GOAT team
2018 - 34/8/10 against the GOAT team
2020 - 30/12/10 off GOAT efficiency

So Lebron had 4 god tier finals performances

Has Jordan had a finals as dominant as 2016 LeBron?


it's impossible to lose when your sidekick is destroying the opposing #1 option and league MVP - so that negates 2016

Similarly, AD was too dominant for Lebron to lose, so that negates 2020

And in 2017, he was blown away by KD despite having the Curry-killer.. 33 ppg is pathetic given the 100 pace and 115 drtg (worst defense ever in a Finals) and also since KD's production erased and superceded Lebron's

[Gohan]

Op claimed he dunked on zach randolph lmao

He probably did 3 ball kind of tall

[dankok8]

fine, whatever. Kong's good. we know

It's not that Warriors had a shitty defense. It's that almost no defense was played in those Finals... Including by Lebron himself who was a sieve in 2017 and 2018. Cavs allowed 2 of the 3 highest ORtg's in Finals history those two years (the other is 2014 Spurs).

To answer the OP, I think the 2016 Finals by Lebron can be argued vs. 2006 Wade. Not really any other one. Which isn't really an insult because 2006 Wade put up one of the greatest finals series in NBA history.

[TheGoatest]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/75/c7/b375c7a409b2c1eaafcf56ef23a110b3.jpg

Imagine accomplishing this insanely impressive statistical feat that has never been done in a playoff series of any length.
Then imagine doing it in a series that lasted 7 games, the longest a series can possibly last & eliminate the impact of 1 great game as much as possible on achieving this feat.
Then imagine it hasn't been done in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs, but the NBA finals.
Then imagine it's been done against a 73-9 team, the greatest record in the history of the league.
Then imagine it's been done after you've been down 2-0, and then 3-1 in that series and you end up winning the series.

The greatest single achievement in history of basketball.
I have no words except: WHAT. A. GOAT. :applause:

[warriorfan]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/75/c7/b375c7a409b2c1eaafcf56ef23a110b3.jpg

Imagine accomplishing this insanely impressive statistical feat that has never been done in a playoff series of any length.
Then imagine doing it in a series that lasted 7 games, the longest a series can possibly last & eliminate the impact of 1 great game as much as possible on achieving this feat.
Then imagine it hasn't been done in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs, but the NBA finals.
Then imagine it's been done against a 73-9 team, the greatest record in the history of the league.
Then imagine it's been done after you've been down 2-0, and then 3-1 in that series and you end up winning the series.

The greatest single achievement in history of basketball.
I have no words except: WHAT. A. GOAT. :applause:

Jason Terry

[Axe]

He probably did 3 ball kind of tall
He's a lying fraud

[light]

Jordan - 5 times (91', 92', 93', 97', 98')


Highest "Clutch Points" in Finals History (last 5 within 5)

1) 98' Jordan... 30 points
2) 06' Wade..... 26 points
3) 97' Jordan... 22 points

Five times.

Wade 2006 Finals PER: 30.5

LeBron 2020 Finals PER: 33.5
LeBron 2016 Finals PER: 33.4
LeBron 2014 Finals PER: 32.6
LeBron 2018 Finals PER: 30.9
LeBron 2017 Finals PER: 30.9

How many times was Wade as dominant as 2020 LeBron?

Never.

[3ball]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/75/c7/b375c7a409b2c1eaafcf56ef23a110b3.jpg

Imagine accomplishing this insanely impressive statistical feat that has never been done in a playoff series of any length.
Then imagine doing it in a series that lasted 7 games, the longest a series can possibly last & eliminate the impact of 1 great game as much as possible on achieving this feat.
Then imagine it hasn't been done in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs, but the NBA finals.
Then imagine it's been done against a 73-9 team, the greatest record in the history of the league.
Then imagine it's been done after you've been down 2-0, and then 3-1 in that series and you end up winning the series.

The greatest single achievement in history of basketball.
I have no words except: WHAT. A. GOAT. :applause:


^^^ A pippen role and stat line ultimately because Kyrie matched the scoring, destroyed the top guy on the other team, and closed the Finals, something Lebron hasn't done in 1743737 Finals appearances.

Of course, losing the Finals means you wouldn't make the Finals from the other conference, so Finals appearances are conference-dependant affairs and only winning them matters.

Dwight, Iverson, and Kidd were winning the East with 1-star teams, yet Lebron formed a super-team to ensure Finals runs (cheated)

[k0kakw0rld]

Jordan - 5 times (91', 92', 93', 97', 98')


Highest "Clutch Points" in Finals History (last 5 within 5)

1) 98' Jordan... 30 points
2) 06' Wade..... 26 points
3) 97' Jordan... 22 points
It doesn't matter. Stop wasting your time creating threads that result to nothing. You will never change people's opinion. So why you out there writing essays like we care?

[k0kakw0rld]

I'm pretty sure If LeBron ever was to have a free throw fest like Wade had in 06 we would never hear the end of it.


Stop with the hypocrisy

[3ball]

I'm pretty sure If LeBron ever was to have a free throw fest like Wade had in 06 we would never hear the end of it.


Stop with the hypocrisy


Lebron never reached peak-Wade scoring level, which has a lot to do with why Wade led the 11' Heat in playoff/Finals scoring and had issues with transfer of power... Lebron was Wade's "pippen", especially in those Finals (18/7/6 and frightened in the clutch)

Ultimately, Lebron was never as quick as peak Wade and could never win a series outside the 1st Round with 35 ppg scoring or more (can't win with scoring)... it's too many long robotic drives after another, which gets destroyed by good teams.. Otoh, Wade had the speed and superior pure scoring ability to dominate the scoring (35 ppg) and win on the highest level.

[TheGoatest]

^^^ A pippen role and stat line ultimately because Kyrie matched the scoring, destroyed the top guy on the other team, and closed the Finals, something Lebron hasn't done in 1743737 Finals appearances.

Of course, losing the Finals means you wouldn't make the Finals from the other conference, so Finals appearances are conference-dependant affairs and only winning them matters.

Dwight, Iverson, and Kidd were winning the East with 1-star teams, yet Lebron formed a super-team to ensure Finals runs (cheated)

First of all Kyrie Irving had a great scoring series for a second option. He didn't do jack shyt other than score, but he had a great scoring series. There's no denying that. Still not as great as great of a scoring series as LeBron. Neither in terms of total points scored, points per 36/48 minutes, scoring efficiency nor clutchness. Now as far as his overall impact on the series, he was light years away from LeBron's all 5 categories leading series. Kyrie's all-round impact was further away from LeBron that series than Pippen's all-round impact was in any of the 6 Bulls' finals compared to Jordan's all-round impact in those same finals.

Secondly, Kevin Love (8.5 ppg on .362 shooting) had more of an atrocious scoring series than Kyrie had a great scoring series.

Thirdly, Kyrie closed the series how exactly? Did he score the last point of game 7? Who did?
The Cavs were down going into the 4th quarter of game 7. LeBron proceeded to score 11 of the Cavs 18 points in the quarter. Kyrie scored 5, aka less than half than LeBron. And on top of that LeBron had one of the all-time great defensive highlights.
You haters LOVE to talk about game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals. Where LeBron was by far the best player on the Heat, but that's another story. How about game 6 of the 2016 finals? Where LeBron scored 10 straight points and 17 points overall for the Cavs in the 4th quarter. He literally scored or assisted on every single Cavs point of the 4th quarter until 2:59 was remaining in the game and the Cavs built a 108-88 lead. Oh yeah, and he also had the overall greatest statistical game in finals history in game 6 as a minor sidenote.
How many points did Kyrie score in the 4th quarter of game 6? 1. A technical free throw which LeGOAT drew out of a frustrated Stephen Curry. :oldlol:

4th quarter scoring in Cavs comeback games of the 2016 finals:

Game 5:
LeBron: 5
Kyrie: 12

Game 6:
LeBron: 17
Kyrie: 1

Game 7:
LeBron: 11
Kyrie: 5

Average:
LeBron: 11 ppg
Kyrie: 5.7 ppg

"Kyrie closed the series". :roll:

[k0kakw0rld]

First of all Kyrie Irving had a great scoring series for a second option. He didn't do jack shyt other than score, but he had a great scoring series. There's no denying that. Still not as great as great of a scoring series as LeBron. Neither in terms of total points scored, points per 36/48 minutes, scoring efficiency nor clutchness. Now as far as his overall impact on the series, he was light years away from LeBron's all 5 categories leading series. Kyrie's all-round impact was further away from LeBron that series than Pippen's all-round impact was in any of the 6 Bulls' finals compared to Jordan's all-round impact in those same finals.

Secondly, Kevin Love (8.5 ppg on .362 shooting) had more of an atrocious scoring series than Kyrie had a great scoring series.

Thirdly, Kyrie closed the series how exactly? Did he score the last point of game 7? Who did?
The Cavs were down going into the 4th quarter of game 7. LeBron proceeded to score 11 of the Cavs 18 points in the quarter. Kyrie scored 5, aka less than half than LeBron. And on top of that LeBron had one of the all-time great defensive highlights.
You haters LOVE to talk about game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals. Where LeBron was by far the best player on the Heat, but that's another story. How about game 6 of the 2016 finals? Where LeBron scored 10 straight points and 17 points overall for the Cavs in the 4th quarter. He literally scored or assisted on every single Cavs point of the 4th quarter until 2:59 was remaining in the game and the Cavs built a 108-88 lead. Oh yeah, and he also had the overall greatest statistical game in finals history in game 6 as a minor sidenote.
How many points did Kyrie score in the 4th quarter of game 6? 1. A technical free throw which LeGOAT drew out of a frustrated Stephen Curry. :oldlol:

4th quarter scoring in Cavs comeback games of the 2016 finals:

Game 5:
LeBron: 5
Kyrie: 12

Game 6:
LeBron: 17
Kyrie: 1

Game 7:
LeBron: 11
Kyrie: 5

Average:
LeBron: 11 ppg
Kyrie: 5.7 ppg

"Kyrie closed the series". :roll:
Damn!! :lebronamazed:

[8Ball]

I don't even need to post anymore to see 3ball get dumpstered.

Jordan never had a finals like 2016 LeBron. Led everyone in everything against a 73 win team. GOAT finals.

2020 Miami Heat better than 3/4 of Jordan's finals opponents.

[8Ball]

First of all Kyrie Irving had a great scoring series for a second option. He didn't do jack shyt other than score, but he had a great scoring series. There's no denying that. Still not as great as great of a scoring series as LeBron. Neither in terms of total points scored, points per 36/48 minutes, scoring efficiency nor clutchness. Now as far as his overall impact on the series, he was light years away from LeBron's all 5 categories leading series. Kyrie's all-round impact was further away from LeBron that series than Pippen's all-round impact was in any of the 6 Bulls' finals compared to Jordan's all-round impact in those same finals.

Secondly, Kevin Love (8.5 ppg on .362 shooting) had more of an atrocious scoring series than Kyrie had a great scoring series.

Thirdly, Kyrie closed the series how exactly? Did he score the last point of game 7? Who did?
The Cavs were down going into the 4th quarter of game 7. LeBron proceeded to score 11 of the Cavs 18 points in the quarter. Kyrie scored 5, aka less than half than LeBron. And on top of that LeBron had one of the all-time great defensive highlights.
You haters LOVE to talk about game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals. Where LeBron was by far the best player on the Heat, but that's another story. How about game 6 of the 2016 finals? Where LeBron scored 10 straight points and 17 points overall for the Cavs in the 4th quarter. He literally scored or assisted on every single Cavs point of the 4th quarter until 2:59 was remaining in the game and the Cavs built a 108-88 lead. Oh yeah, and he also had the overall greatest statistical game in finals history in game 6 as a minor sidenote.
How many points did Kyrie score in the 4th quarter of game 6? 1. A technical free throw which LeGOAT drew out of a frustrated Stephen Curry. :oldlol:

4th quarter scoring in Cavs comeback games of the 2016 finals:

Game 5:
LeBron: 5
Kyrie: 12

Game 6:
LeBron: 17
Kyrie: 1

Game 7:
LeBron: 11
Kyrie: 5

Average:
LeBron: 11 ppg
Kyrie: 5.7 ppg

"Kyrie closed the series". :roll:

Close the thread down its over.

[8Ball]

Jordan - 5 times (91', 92', 93', 97', 98')


Highest "Clutch Points" in Finals History (last 5 within 5)

1) 98' Jordan... 30 points
2) 06' Wade..... 26 points
3) 97' Jordan... 22 points

1-9

[DoctorP]

LeBrons a better player than Wade. Just another level.

[Jerry Springer]

2015, 2016, 2017 shit even 2018 even though the Cavs got swept.

[Jerry Springer]

How does what his sidekick did deal with what his performance was??

And 2017 he still averaged a triple double while KD only put up 2 more ppg, so overall Lebron was bringing more for his team so u could argue Lebron out performed everyone.

[Hey Yo]

Jordan - 5 times (91', 92', 93', 97', 98')


Highest "Clutch Points" in Finals History (last 5 within 5)

1) 98' Jordan... 30 points
2) 06' Wade..... 26 points
3) 97' Jordan... 22 points
with only 4 rebounds and 2 assists

[Shooter]

2016 - GOAT finals
2017 - 33/12/10 against the GOAT team
2018 - 34/8/10 against the GOAT team
2020 - 30/12/10 off GOAT efficiency

So Lebron had 4 god tier finals performances

Has Jordan had a finals as dominant as 2016 LeBron?

/ thread

[8Ball]

LeBron averaged a 32 point triple double on GOAT efficiency in his last 3 finals.

Jordan had a finals where he averaged 2 assists...

[KKittles30]

If LeBron could get half the whistles that pretty much all other NBA stars get he would be avg. 40 a game easy. But, "he so big and strong and look all the defenders just bounce off of him so that can't be a foul they barely touched him." If you watch he quits driving at a certain point in games as he knows the whistle has been swallowed and he will get no calls.

"D-Whistle" wasn't given to Dwyane Wade in 2006 as a nickname for nothing. If LeBron could've got 97 FTA in any NBA Finals he was in.. He would've dominated like Wade did too.

[SouBeachTalents]

If LeBron could get half the whistles that pretty much all other NBA stars get he would be avg. 40 a game easy. But, "he so big and strong and look all the defenders just bounce off of him so that can't be a foul they barely touched him." If you watch he quits driving at a certain point in games as he knows the whistle has been swallowed and he will get no calls.

"D-Whistle" wasn't given to Dwyane Wade in 2006 as a nickname for nothing. If LeBron could've got 97 FTA in any NBA Finals he was in.. He would've dominated like Wade did too.
LeBron got 94 in the '09 ECF, which I'd have to assume is his career playoff high, and averaged 39 ppg

[3ball]

LeBron got 94 in the '09 ECF, which I'd have to assume is his career playoff high, and averaged 39 ppg


That's the perfect example of lebron's high scoring actually being TOXIC, so he can't wn a series outside the 1st Round with 35 ppg scoring or more (can't win with scoring)... it's too many long robotic drives after another, which gets destroyed by good teams..

Otoh, Wade had the speed and superior pure scoring ability to dominate the scoring (35 ppg) and win on the highest level.

[8Ball]

That's the perfect example of lebron's high scoring actually being TOXIC, so he can't wn a series outside the 1st Round with 35 ppg scoring or more (can't win with scoring)... it's too many long robotic drives after another, which gets destroyed by good teams..

Otoh, Wade had the speed and superior pure scoring ability to dominate the scoring (35 ppg) and win on the highest level.

Jordan averaged 44 ppg against Boston in the 1st round and got swept.
Next year he averaged 36ppg in the 1st round and got swept again.

Jordan's high scoring was actually TOXIC to his team, so he can't win a series outside the 1st round without Pippen. Jordan has too many long robotic drives after another, which gets destroyed by good teams..


Jordan is also 1-9 without Pippen.

[Axe]

The retardation levels of 3ball must be so high that he has to insert baldan in every thread he makes about king kong bran.

[darwinmtds]

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