How does gun control affect crime rates?

[Doomsday Dallas]

Please discuss.

I'll add my 2 cents later.

[SATAN]

You should really just add your 2 cents now instead of waiting to counterpoint anything posters who might have an opposing view to yours are going to say...

[Doomsday Dallas]

You should really just add your 2 cents now instead of waiting to counterpoint anything posters who might have an opposing view to yours are going to say...


I'm too busy atm... but I'll post some things here in a second.

a quick google search lead me to believe that stricter gun laws might actually lead to less crime... but I wanted to focus on crime rates here in the States... not in places like Europe or Japan

[Doomsday Dallas]

Actually, it's past midnight... I might expand on this in further detail another day, but wanted to get into some serious 2nd Amendment talk.

[warriorfan]

I appreciate the hustle op but it’s a lost cause. I mean we just shut down the country for an entire year over a flu with a 99.9% survival rate. There is no reasoning with these animals.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I appreciate the hustle op but it’s a lost cause. I mean we just shut down the country for an entire year over a flu with a 99.9% survival rate. There is no reasoning with these animals.


On certain subjects like Covid19... I agree, absolutely 100% it's a lost cause.

But this Gun Control issue... I'm not sure how to approach just yet... I mean, America does have a gun violence problem, but I just don't see any law providing a solution to the problem.




But David Hemenway, professor of public policy at Harvard School of Public Health, took issue with the methodology in an accompanying comment published in The Lancet. He pointed to the projection that deaths would be reduced by 90 percent. It was difficult to project, he wrote, whether any one law could decrease gun deaths. In an interview he said many studies about gun control are limited. "I could find serious problems with virtually any U.S. study about gun laws," he says.

For the study, researchers looked at 25 state gun control laws to try to draw conclusions about which ones had the most impact on gun deaths. Its findings suggest that nine laws were associated with an increase in gun deaths, nine were associated with a decrease, and the remaining showed no association. For example, laws that restrict firearm access to children, including age restrictions, were shown to be ineffective.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-10/study-some-gun-control-laws-result-in-more-deaths

- March 2016



Does Gun Control Reduce Crime?

Cliffs Notes

https://www.cliffsnotes.com/study-guides/criminal-justice/crime/does-gun-control-reduce-crime


A major question is whether or not gun‐control laws reduce crime. Thus far, handgun bans have failed to have any significant impact on murder rates because of the large number of handguns in circulation prior to the bans. Attempts to outlaw the manufacture and importation of handguns have failed because they stimulate the genesis of a black market for guns similar to the black market for drugs. Laws seeking to keep handguns out of the hands of criminals, juveniles, and mental defectives have failed to reduce crime because active criminals either have guns already or can steal them. Waiting periods and background checks temporarily stop some criminals and juveniles from getting guns, but many steal them or get them through the black market.

[Axe]

Unfortunately, the country's lockdown due to covid-19 is one of the reasons why distribution of stimulus checks had to be halted. That's bad news for some folks here who had to rely on them for the sake of living.

[welfarefan]

I have 2 guns from Ross but the local gun range in North Cali is 1 hour drive by car. Which makes it 2 day trip by huffy bike. I've only shot my gun twice :( btw did you guys hear about covid-20?

[Jasper]

In all of my years when I walked into a sporting goods store to look at guns , the last 5 years I have never seen more defense guns on display than ever before.
It is just plan "SAD"
Granted I have been a hunter for basically 50 years , and with appreciation of tools (a hunting gun is a tool) The value over years increases with appreciation. (Granted I can not afford a Purdey) but the appreciation is there , and now I seek out gun emporiums that would never ever deal with weapons for defense.
A while back I was watching a vid of a gal living on a homestead where no neighbors are around , living with her parents periodically and she is out and about carrying a side arm. What the HELL FOR ???? Someone going to jump out from a bush.. .give me a break.
That is called weak ass thinking in my point of view.
I will give you a hunting story : I will be going bear hunting north of us. Some guns carry a rifle to take out a bear , and also carry a pistol in case what they think could put them in a situation to 'defend themselves'
What do you think a 1000 pound bear would think of a pistol ?? In other words the pistol is a waste of time.
It's called common sense.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Look at the size of that headline on CNN,... Jesus.

Biden praises slain cop and pushes for stronger gun laws

[Patrick Chewing]

Because when a criminal uses a gun, the rest of us should be punished for it.

[~primetime~]

Because when a criminal uses a gun, the rest of us should be punished for it.

The laws can be changed to where law abiding citizens are not punished in any way.

How about we start by trying to prevent schizophrenic 21 year olds on SSRI meds from buying AR15s?.....YOU can still buy them though

not sure why anyone would have an issue with that.

[Patrick Chewing]

The laws can be changed to where law abiding citizens are not punished in any way.

How about we start by trying to prevent schizophrenic 21 year olds on SSRI meds from buying AR15s?.....YOU can still buy them though

not sure why anyone would have an issue with that.

That's not what our government leaders are saying, hombre.

[Hey Yo]

Look at the size of that headline on CNN,... Jesus.

Biden praises slain cop and pushes for stronger gun laws

When a bad guy shoots a cop, we blame the gun, but when a cop shoots a bad guy, we blame the cop.

[paksat]

The laws can be changed to where law abiding citizens are not punished in any way.

How about we start by trying to prevent schizophrenic 21 year olds on SSRI meds from buying AR15s?.....YOU can still buy them though

not sure why anyone would have an issue with that.

let's ban drugs too

[Axe]

let's ban drugs too
No more crack rocks anymore :mad:

[Doomsday Dallas]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1285378/pg1


I'm curious how others view this issue...

Those who do not remember (or know) history are doomed to repeat. The second amendment (and all it means to freedom) is the last hope - not only of our nation, but every nation. If we allow "them" to have our guns, the following is our doom:

1911 - Turkey est. Gun Control. 1915-17 1.5 million Armenians were murdered

1929 - Soviet Union est. Gun Control. 1929-53 20 million dissidents were killed.

1935 - China est. Gun Control. 1948-52 20 million citizens were killed.

1938 - Germany est. Gun Control. 1939-45 they killed millions of Jews and other Europeans.

1964 - Guatemala est. Gun Control. 1964-81 100,000 Mayan Indians rounded up and killed.

1970 - Uganda est. Gun Control. 1971-79 300,000 Christians were killed.

1956 - Cambodia est. Gun Control. 1975-77 1 million people were exterminated.

1979 - Rwanda est. Gun Control. 1994 800,000 people killed in 100 days.

[Cleverness]

Which part of the Constitution gives the federal gov't authority to have control people's guns?

[Gray GOAT]

Why would you need or want a gun in the first place?

[Patrick Chewing]

Why would you need or want a gun in the first place?

Because there are bad people out there. You can remove all the guns off the face of the Earth, that still doesn't remove people from wanting to cause harm to you.


Some of you truly think that if there are no guns, that murders, robberies, and assaults would just cease. If anything, a criminal is more emboldened to rob you or assault you if he knows you don't have a gun.

I mean, to ask such a question of why people need guns astounds the hell out of me.