Jazz at Wizards

[Xiao Yao You]

Conley out.

Neto questionable. Another guy I loved that Snyder and probably Callystar didn't :cry:

[RRR3]

Conley out.

Neto questionable. Another guy I loved that Snyder and probably Callystar didn't :cry:
You tend to like scrubs. Besides Rudy I mean.

[imdaman99]

Washedbrook sighting

[RRR3]

Washedbrook sighting
I miss prime WB badly. 11-17 Brook was flames.

[imdaman99]

I miss prime WB badly. 11-17 Brook was flames.

Primebrook takes almost any team to the playoffs if he plays all the games.

[Axe]

A hot first quarter for dc

[RRR3]

Primebrook takes almost any team to the playoffs if he plays all the games.
WB in his prime on this Wizards team would be fun.

[JohnMax]

Westbrook is most athletic player in NBA history


I think we need to reconsider how we define athleticism.

What makes Westbrook special are his reflexes and body control. You don’t really get to run two steps in a straight line and swat at a bunch of sticks on a pole with your fingertips, which is how max vertical leaps are measured in testing. You’re often driving at an angle, dribbling a basketball with guys swarming around you trying to poke it away, contorting your body to avoid a defender (and maybe they still get a piece of you anyway). You don’t always get to choose to jump off of your dominant leg, or finish with your dominant hand. You may have to decelerate, change direction, and then re-accelerate before attempting to finish.

Westbrook can do all of that and still generate a remarkable amount of controlled power. Some athletes can generate a greater amount of maximal force in a clean, controlled testing environment, but can’t control all of it in the same way during unpredictable, messy in-game action - so it’s of little use. That’s why Russell Westbrook can go out on the court and prove himself to be a better athlete than other guys who may have a slightly better workout.

[LoneyROY7]

Da fugg Russ has 20 points early in the 2nd.

[RRR3]

Da fugg Russ has 20 points early in the 2nd.
Jazz should put the best perimeter defender in the league on him!

[LoneyROY7]

Jazz getting smacked early, but Washington will almost assuredly give it all back.

[Manny98]

Utah getting destroyed without their best player Conley

No surprise

[RRR3]

Utah getting destroyed without their best player Conley

No surprise
It’s COTM’s fault for not putting Rudy on WB!

[AirBonner]

Conley >>>> Toody

[LoneyROY7]

Maybe not. Utah getting throughly BULLIED.

[Xiao Yao You]

You tend to like scrubs. Besides Rudy I mean.

I like guys that can play basketball. Neto is one of them

[Xiao Yao You]

Westbrook is most athletic player in NBA history

also one of the dumbest

[RRR3]

I like guys that can play basketball. Neto is one of them
Kind of weird to like Neto and Niang and hate Mitchell and Favors when the latter two are obviously better.

[Xiao Yao You]

better pick up the D. Thought maybe Morgan would give them a boost but Favors came back. Bojan, Mitchell, Favors. Clarkson and COTM awful once again. An all too recurring theme! Ingles, Rudy and Royce trying to keep them in it

[RRR3]

“Everyone on the Jazz sucks besides Gobert, Conley, Ingles and Niang”-Xiao

[Manny98]

better pick up the D. Thought maybe Morgan would give them a boost but Favors came back. Bojan, Mitchell, Favors. Clarkson and COTM awful once again. An all too recurring theme! Ingles, Rudy and Royce trying to keep them in it

Everyone's fault but Rudy and Niang :roll:

[Manny98]

It’s COTM’s fault for not putting Rudy on WB!

Who is that?

[Xiao Yao You]

Kind of weird to like Neto and Niang and hate Mitchell and Favors when the latter two are obviously better.

Neto and Niang are minimum vet players at the end of rotations/benches. Mitchell is soon to be a max player that is supposed to be the best player and Favors is getting 10 million a year to back up their actual best player

[Xiao Yao You]

“Everyone on the Jazz sucks besides Gobert, Conley, Ingles and Niang”-Xiao

all too often it is the case

[RRR3]

all too often it is the case
I mean not really since all of those players I mentioned are better than Niang.

[RRR3]

Everyone's fault but Rudy and Niang :roll:
Seriously, Toody is apparently a modern Bill Russell on defense who is the single best candidate to defend Steph Curry all game, and also elite on offense, but he also apparently never shoulders any responsibility? Wtf

[Xiao Yao You]

I mean not really since all of those players I mentioned are better than Niang.

If you are the guy taking most of the shots and you aren't hitting them and also turning it over and not playing D you are hurting the team more than the guy that defends and doesn't take many shots or turn it over. I realize that's pretty advanced for a box score watcher to understand

[Xiao Yao You]

Seriously, Toody is apparently a modern Bill Russell on defense who is the single best candidate to defend Steph Curry all game, and also elite on offense, but he also apparently never shoulders any responsibility? Wtf

They are one of the worst teams in the league without Gobert so why would he get blamed?

[Manny98]

Seriously, Toody is apparently a modern Bill Russell on defense who is the single best candidate to defend Steph Curry all game, and also elite on offense, but he also apparently never shoulders any responsibility? Wtf
Exactly if he's good as Xiao claims him to be he should take over the game on offense in the second half and be assigned to stopping red hot Westbrook

[Manny98]

They are one of the worst teams in the league without Gobert so why would he get blamed?
So far it looks like they're one of the worst teams without Conley :confusedshrug:

[Axe]

Interesting lead

[RRR3]

Toody 0-6 at the line.

[Xiao Yao You]

So far it looks like they're one of the worst teams without Conley :confusedshrug:

they've won every game he's missed

[Manny98]

Toody 0-6 at the line.
:roll:

[Manny98]

Mitchell carrying:applause:

[RRR3]

Mitchell carrying:applause:
But he’s worse than Georges Niang!

[Xiao Yao You]

Nice of Mitchell to show up finally. Too bad t=he can never do it for 4 quarters

[Xiao Yao You]

But he’s worse than Georges Niang!

No one said that. Niang does his job as 9th man on a vet minimum. Donovan is ineffective and turns over the ball a lot and plays no D and will soon be a max player. I'll take the cheap guy doing his job over the overpaid guy that's not

[RRR3]

Nice of Mitchell to show up finally. Too bad t=he can never do it for 4 quarters
Showed up pretty good in the playoffs.

[Im so nba'd out]

vintage brodie performance

[Manny98]

Showed up pretty good in the playoffs.

Literally averaged 36/5/5 in his last playoff series :lol

Xiao is pathetic with his Mitchell hate

[RRR3]

Niang is dreadful.

[RRR3]

Literally averaged 36/5/5 in his last playoff series :lol

Xiao is pathetic with his Mitchell hate
He hates Mitchell because he gets the most attention on the Jazz and he wishes it was Rudy.

[Proctor]

Niang is putrid.

[Xiao Yao You]

Showed up pretty good in the playoffs.

too bad about his defense which is why the Jazz lost and have been losing recently

[Xiao Yao You]

He hates Mitchell because he gets the most attention on the Jazz and he wishes it was Rudy.

Don't hate him. Not a fan of a guy getting paid max that is inefficient, turns it over a lot and plays no D

[RRR3]

too bad about his defense which is why the Jazz lost and have been losing recently
1. You don’t get to complain about defense when he averaged 36 PPG on 69.6 TS%
2. Pretty sure he wasn’t the one getting barbecued by Jokic

[Xiao Yao You]

1. You don’t get to complain about defense when he averaged 36 PPG on 69.6 TS%
2. Pretty sure he wasn’t the one getting barbecued by Jokic

When you lose because of defense you get to complain

[RRR3]

When you lose because of defense you get to complain
Guess we can complain about Toody getting massacred by Jokic and having a meh 0.1 DPBM in the playoffs.

[Proctor]

Gobert playing like shit, fouling stupidly and picking up 4th quarter techs :applause:

[RRR3]

Gobert playing like shit, fouling stupidly and picking up 4th quarter techs :applause:
COTM refuses to put him on Beal and WB smh. Doesn’t he know he’s the best perimeter defender in the league??

[Proctor]

COTM refuses to put him on Beal and WB smh. Doesn’t he know he’s the best perimeter defender in the league??

:roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Guess we can complain about Toody getting massacred by Jokic and having a meh 0.1 DPBM in the playoffs.

Rudy was guarding the Nuggets not Jokic. He has to have help to stop a whole team. Other than O'Neale and Ingles he had none. This year Conley and Niang have stepped up at that end. Miss Mike tonite as you can tell

[Manny98]

Game is begging for "elite offensive player" Gobert to take over

[RRR3]

Rudy was guarding the Nuggets not Jokic. He has to have help to stop a whole team. Other than O'Neale and Ingles he had none. This year Conley and Niang have stepped up at that end. Miss Mike tonite as you can tell
I mean 0.1 DPBM suggests he didn’t play up to his standards in the playoffs. I know you like pretending like Rudy never messes up ever tho.

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert playing like shit, fouling stupidly and picking up 4th quarter techs :applause:

You watching the game? How is it a stupid foul when he stops a layup for his first of the game and Lopez fouls him and they call it on Gobert?

[RRR3]

Game is begging for "elite offensive player" Gobert to take over
Too busy shutting down Beal and WB on the perimeter.

[Xiao Yao You]

I mean 0.1 DPBM suggests he didn’t play up to his standards in the playoffs. I know you like pretending like Rudy never messes up ever tho.

no one said that. Rudy Gobert is not the problem with the Utah Jazz. He is the reason they don't suck

[RRR3]

It must be nice for the Jazz guards when Favors comes in and they now they can throw non-lob passes to him cuz he actually knows how to play offense.

[Manny98]

Too busy shutting down Beal and WB on the perimeter.

:lol

[RRR3]

no one said that. Rudy Gobert is not the problem with the Utah Jazz. He is the reason they don't suck
The team they have this year pswould still be good without Rudy.

[RRR3]

Jazz offense suddenly looks good with Toody on the bench.

[Proctor]

Mitchell saving this game as usual

[RRR3]

Toody on the sidelines in crunch time. Odd for a player on the same level as Bill Russell.

[Xiao Yao You]

It must be nice for the Jazz guards when Favors comes in and they now they can throw non-lob passes to him cuz he actually knows how to play offense.

probably not so nice that they don't have Rudy at the rim when their guy drives past them

[RRR3]

probably not so nice that they don't have Rudy at the rim when their guy drives past them
Toody just got beat at the rim two plays in a row

[Xiao Yao You]

The team they have this year pswould still be good without Rudy.

They'd probably score points. They'd be horribly defensively like they are often even with Rudy

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell saving this game as usual

yeah Beal only has 41 and Westbrook 31. Way to go Mitchell! :facepalm

[Proctor]

Ingles stepped up in Conley's absence

Bojan, Gobert were low effort yet again

[RRR3]

yeah Beal only has 41 and Westbrook 31. Way to go Mitchell! :facepalm
Maybe the best perimeter defender in the league should guard them.

[Xiao Yao You]

Toody just got beat at the rim two plays in a row

and yet he's still the best in the league despite not stopping every guy that gets past his teammates

[RRR3]

Toody is helpless at the line.

[Xiao Yao You]

Ingles stepped up in Conley's absence

Bojan, Gobert were low effort yet again

When has Gobert ever been low effort?

[Xiao Yao You]

Maybe the best perimeter defender in the league should guard them.

certainly shouldn't be Mitchell and Bojan as has been the case

[Proctor]

1-8 at the line for Gobert. Hell of a defender but offensively in line with the likes of a Mutombo or Ben Wallace

[imdaman99]

Rudy dominating on the boards.

[RRR3]

Toody is a disaster on offense.

[Proctor]

COTM needs to take Gobert out. He's useless under pressure. Great when there is a blowout

[RRR3]

COTM needs to take Gobert out. He's useless under pressure. Great when there is a blowout
Jazz need some offense so yeah Favors would be the move.

[Mask the Embiid]

Games like this are why people refer to the Jazz as pretenders/frauds.Great game by Donovan and jingling joe.No one else deserves to get on the team bus....royce o'neal can run behind the bus though i guess...

[RRR3]

COTM needs to take Gobert out. He's useless under pressure. Great when there is a blowout
It was disgusting watching that stiff sling bricks at the rim like a broken trebuchet. Work on your FTs good god

[Xiao Yao You]

Jazz need some offense so yeah Favors would be the move.

except that Rudy is the catalyst for the offense and the defense. They gave up more points than they have all year so offense isn't what they needed tonite

[RRR3]

He’s the catalyst of the offense and he can’t create for himself or others? seems unlikely.

[Xiao Yao You]

Games like this are why people refer to the Jazz as pretenders/frauds.Great game by Donovan and jingling joe.No one else deserves to get on the team bus....royce o'neal can run behind the bus though i guess...

great game by Donovan despite Beal and Westbrook scoring 72 :roll:

O'Neale, Gobert and Ingles play D.

[Xiao Yao You]

He’s the catalyst of the offense and he can’t create for himself or others? seems unlikely.

screens, pressure at the rim, offensive boards. I realize it's hard for you to understand the intricacies of the game

[RRR3]

screens, pressure at the rim, offensive boards. I realize it's hard for you to understand the intricacies of the game
Being able to create for others and/or yourself is a prerequisite to being the catalyst of an offense. I realize it’s hard for you to understand the intricacies of the game.

[AirBonner]

Toody letting two pg’s go off damn

[Proctor]

except that Rudy is the catalyst for the offense and the defense. They gave up more points than they have all year so offense isn't what they needed tonite
Need a new catalyst then. They lost the game and Rudy was low effort all around.

He was an effective catalyst of a 2-10 effort at the FT line though. He will have to step up in the playoffs if he doesn't want to get torn to shreds by other Capela tier centers and above.

[imdaman99]

I don't think Westbrook is washed up, he's just a slow starter especially because of that quad injury and his time in the bubble was miserable. There wasn't much time off after the season. Washed up guys don't have ridiculous games like this.

Or maybe he just has pride, and he's done it a few times this year. Either way it's gonna suck if he doesn't make it to the playoffs. Would love to see him against the Nets, win or lose :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

Being able to create for others and/or yourself is a prerequisite to being the catalyst of an offense. I realize it’s hard for you to understand the intricacies of the game.

tell it to COTM. His description not mine

[RRR3]

I don't think Westbrook is washed up, he's just a slow starter especially because of that quad injury and his time in the bubble was miserable. There wasn't much time off after the season. Washed up guys don't have ridiculous games like this.

Or maybe he just has pride, and he's done it a few times this year. Either way it's gonna suck if he doesn't make it to the playoffs. Would love to see him against the Nets, win or lose :lol
He’s not getting to the rim. At all. Like 14-15% of his shots are at the rim that’s so low for him.

[RRR3]

tell it to COTM. His description not mine
So Quin Snyder is always right?

[Xiao Yao You]

Need a new catalyst then. They lost the game and Rudy was low effort all around.

He was an effective catalyst of a 2-10 effort at the FT line though. He will have to step up in the playoffs if he doesn't want to get torn to shreds by other Capela tier centers and above.

his usual double double with 2 blocks and 2 steals. He wasn't the problem

[Xiao Yao You]

So Quin Snyder is always right?

he's smarter than all of us

[RRR3]

2-10 at the line, 10 points


“He wasn’t the problem”





:yaohappy:

[Proctor]

his usual double double with 2 blocks and 2 steals. He wasn't the problem

He missed 8 FTs and they lost by 9. Sorry he sucked

[Xiao Yao You]

who else would have Bojan on Beal! Takes a real genius to think outside the box like that

[Xiao Yao You]

He missed 8 FTs and they lost by 9. Sorry he sucked

the 131 points they gave up is why they lost

[RRR3]

he's smarter than all of us
I bet he thinks Mitchell is good, though :yaohappy:


Whoops.

[Xiao Yao You]

2-10 at the line, 10 points


“He wasn’t the problem”





:yaohappy:

If Rudy or Ingles have to score they are in trouble as we saw tonite

[RRR3]

who else would have Bojan on Beal! Takes a real genius to think outside the box like that
So wait. According to Xiao, Snyder is a dumbass. But also according to Xiao Toody is the catalyst of the Jazz offense because a dumbass said so.





Dude you literally make no sense.

[Xiao Yao You]

I bet he thinks Mitchell is good, though :yaohappy:


Whoops.

Everyone thinks Mitchell is great. Bet Beal and Westbrook are especially impressed with him tonite

[Proctor]

If Rudy or Ingles have to score they are in trouble as we saw tonite

Rudy is supposedly elite offensively so scoring should be like breathing for him

[RRR3]

Rudy is supposedly elite offensively so scoring should be like breathing for him
Or at least hitting 30% of his FTs but apparently that’s too much to ask.

[Callystarr]

Conley out.

Neto questionable. Another guy I loved that Snyder and probably Callystar didn't :cry:

Actually I liked him.

The only person we dont agree on is Favors. Maybe your man crush Niang

[Callystarr]

It’s COTM’s fault for not putting Rudy on WB!

No its his fault because he wants more D but he keeps starting Bogey and plays clarkson and Mitchell together

[Callystarr]

Kind of weird to like Neto and Niang and hate Mitchell and Favors when the latter two are obviously better.

Mitchell doesnt play d thats why

[Callystarr]

“Everyone on the Jazz sucks besides Gobert, Conley, Ingles and Niang”-Xiao

This is pretty much true

[Callystarr]

they've won every game he's missed

They have won every game a starter has missed this year, you and I both know Utah is better with Mike

[Callystarr]

Showed up pretty good in the playoffs.

He showed up in one series... he is overrated

[RRR3]

They have won every game a starter has missed this year, you and I both know Utah is better with Mike
He claims this team would suck without Gobert.

[Callystarr]

Don't hate him. Not a fan of a guy getting paid max that is inefficient, turns it over a lot and plays no D

I can agree here

[Callystarr]

Guess we can complain about Toody getting massacred by Jokic and having a meh 0.1 DPBM in the playoffs.

Who hasn't jokic massacred? There isn't a center in this league that can stop him

[Callystarr]

What is it with the constant rolling of Rudy? I guess you haven't arrived unless you can Beach Road by internet folk

[RRR3]

Who hasn't jokic massacred? There isn't a center in this league that can stop him
He’d never shut up about Favors is he was in Gobert’s place last playoffs and played the exact same way. He loves DBPM when it makes Rudy look amazing but when he had a 0.1 DBPM in the playoffs somehow it’s all Mitchell’s fault.

[Callystarr]

Ingles stepped up in Conley's absence

Bojan, Gobert were low effort yet again

Gobert low effort? Smh

[RRR3]

What is it with the constant rolling of Rudy? I guess you haven't arrived unless you can Beach Road by internet folk
Why are you ok with Xiao’s constant trolling? Saying Rudy is almost equivalent to Bill Russell, better than Embiid, elite on offense, is the best perimeter defender in the league and would do a better job than anyone else guarding Curry isn’t trolling?

[Callystarr]

1-8 at the line for Gobert. Hell of a defender but offensively in line with the likes of a Mutombo or Ben Wallace

How do you call him out because of his offense, but say that he had good defense, but you don't say anything about Donovan Mitchell's defense? You might as well put Casper out there, when he's on the floor it's like four on five

[Callystarr]

tell it to COTM. His description not mine

I mean I know that I disagree with you a lot on things, but why do you even bother exchanging with people who clearly are just trying to troll? It's the same people..

[Callystarr]

So wait. According to Xiao, Snyder is a dumbass. But also according to Xiao Toody is the catalyst of the Jazz offense because a dumbass said so.





Dude you literally make no sense.

Rudy is the catalyst to both sides of the vall. Joe wouldn't be able to get a shot off without Rudy. Yall love stats but not when it proves u wrong.

[Callystarr]

He claims this team would suck without Gobert.

They would. They have a horrible record when he is not in the lineup.

Utah is undefeated this year when missing a starter

[RRR3]

Rudy is the catalyst to both sides of the vall. Joe wouldn't be able to get a shot off without Rudy. Yall love stats but not when it proves u wrong.
See this is just blatant bullshit. As I’ve shown before impact stats clearly display Gobert is relatively neutral in terms of offensive impact. The reason Xiao gets trolled is because he says patently untrue things about Rudy. Now you’re starting to do the same, which explains why you can’t see Xiao is a ridiculous troll.

[Callystarr]

Why are you ok with Xiao’s constant trolling? Saying Rudy is almost equivalent to Bill Russell, better than Embiid, elite on offense, is the best perimeter defender in the league and would do a better job than anyone else guarding Curry isn’t trolling?

Because his statements are backed up stats. There is more to stats than points and rebounds. I hate Rudy its like henhas two left feet but his impact on both ends is incredible.

[Callystarr]

See this is just blatant bullshit. As I’ve shown before impact stats clearly display Gobert is relatively neutral in terms of offensive impact. The reason Xiao gets trolled is because he says patently untrue things about Rudy. Now you’re starting to do the same, which explains why you can’t see Xiao is a ridiculous troll.

I disagree with him quite a bit....did u not see his opening comment to me?

[Callystarr]

He’d never shut up about Favors is he was in Gobert’s place last playoffs and played the exact same way. He loves DBPM when it makes Rudy look amazing but when he had a 0.1 DBPM in the playoffs somehow it’s all Mitchell’s fault.

I have never agreed with him on his outlook on favors

[Callystarr]

He’d never shut up about Favors is he was in Gobert’s place last playoffs and played the exact same way. He loves DBPM when it makes Rudy look amazing but when he had a 0.1 DBPM in the playoffs somehow it’s all Mitchell’s fault.
Donovan Mitchell is very overrated, yes he had a wonderful series, but he hasn't even had a month where he shot efficiently in his entire career. He is overrated, great for the franchise in terms of community building at cetera, but on the floor I wouldn't have paid that man 15 million dollars let alone 35

[RRR3]

Because his statements are backed up stats. There is more to stats than points and rebounds. I hate Rudy its like henhas two left feet but his impact on both ends is incredible.
I never denied Rudy is a great i player I denied bullshit like him being the best perimeter defender in the NBA, being not only capable of guarding Steph Curry 1v1 but do so better than anyone else, being elite on offense, being better than Embiid and being capable of stepping into Bill Russell’s career on the Celtics and producing similar results. Do you not agree those are ridiculous statements? I agree Rudy is a great player but all of those statements are nonsense.

[Xiao Yao You]

He claims this team would suck without Gobert.

I don't claim. Again my statements are based on facts. They've never done anything but suck without Gobert

[Xiao Yao You]

He’d never shut up about Favors is he was in Gobert’s place last playoffs and played the exact same way. He loves DBPM when it makes Rudy look amazing but when he had a 0.1 DBPM in the playoffs somehow it’s all Mitchell’s fault.

wasn't all Mitchell's fault. Plenty of blame to go around but you want to ignore the fact that Mitchell doesn't play D just because he puts up the big scoring numbers that you base all your opinions on

[Xiao Yao You]

Why are you ok with Xiao’s constant trolling? Saying Rudy is almost equivalent to Bill Russell, better than Embiid, elite on offense, is the best perimeter defender in the league and would do a better job than anyone else guarding Curry isn’t trolling?

Never said any of that of course. Just you putting words in my mouth again

[Xiao Yao You]

How do you call him out because of his offense, but say that he had good defense, but you don't say anything about Donovan Mitchell's defense? You might as well put Casper out there, when he's on the floor it's like four on five

Mitchell scores points and flirts with triple doubles occasionally. That's all that matters

[Xiao Yao You]

See this is just blatant bullshit. As I’ve shown before impact stats clearly display Gobert is relatively neutral in terms of offensive impact. The reason Xiao gets trolled is because he says patently untrue things about Rudy. Now you’re starting to do the same, which explains why you can’t see Xiao is a ridiculous troll.

Watch a game! There's plenty of stats that show his impact as well

[Xiao Yao You]

I never denied Rudy is a great i player I denied bullshit like him being the best perimeter defender in the NBA, being not only capable of guarding Steph Curry 1v1 but do so better than anyone else, being elite on offense, being better than Embiid and being capable of stepping into Bill Russell’s career on the Celtics and producing similar results. Do you not agree those are ridiculous statements? I agree Rudy is a great player but all of those statements are nonsense.

It's ridiculous that you keep making these statements up

[Manny98]

Saying Gobert is the catalyst of Utah's offense is like saying Andrew Bogut was the Catalyst of the Warriors offense :oldlol:

"Because Screens"

[Xiao Yao You]

Saying Gobert is the catalyst of Utah's offense is like saying Andrew Bogut was the Catalyst of the Warriors offense :oldlol:

"Because Screens"

Bogut was the top rim runner in the league?

[Callystarr]

I never denied Rudy is a great i player I denied bullshit like him being the best perimeter defender in the NBA, being not only capable of guarding Steph Curry 1v1 but do so better than anyone else, being elite on offense, being better than Embiid and being capable of stepping into Bill Russell’s career on the Celtics and producing similar results. Do you not agree those are ridiculous statements? I agree Rudy is a great player but all of those statements are nonsense.

He is surprisingly a great perimeter defender. Have you see how many times a bc player tried to take him off the dribble and its blocked straight up, or they leave him only to be blocked from
Behind....60% thats the result anytime they try!

[Callystarr]

wasn't all Mitchell's fault. Plenty of blame to go around but you want to ignore the fact that Mitchell doesn't play D just because he puts up the big scoring numbers that you base all your opinions on

All Facts

[RRR3]

He is surprisingly a great perimeter defender. Have you see how many times a bc player tried to take him off the dribble and its blocked straight up, or they leave him only to be blocked from
Behind....60% thats the result anytime they try!
The fact that you refused to deny any of those statements means you’re almost as bad as Xiao. Jesus. I know you guys don’t have stars often but Toody is NOT on that level my god. He sure didn’t look good guarding Jamal Murray in the playoffs I can tell you that much.

[Manny98]

Bogut was the top rim runner in the league?
Setting screens and running to the rim is all Rudy can do because he's garbage at everything else offensively :oldlol:

Can't face up, can't post up, can't shoot to save his life.

And Capela and AD are both better rim runners and lob targets than Rudy

[Callystarr]

Setting screens and running to the rim is all Rudy can do because he's garbage at everything else offensively :oldlol:

Can't face up, can't post up, can't shoot to save his life.

And Capela and AD are both better rim runners and lob targets than Rudy

Is that why they have more dunks than he does? ��

[Manny98]

He is surprisingly a great perimeter defender. Have you see how many times a bc player tried to take him off the dribble and its blocked straight up, or they leave him only to be blocked from
Behind....60% thats the result anytime they try!
He literally got exploited on defense in the Rockets series a couple of years ago and against the Nuggets this year because he's not quick enough to come out onto the perimeter

Rudy can hold his own defending elite guards for a couple of possessions but you guys act like he's Scottie Pippen and can defend all 5 positions

[Callystarr]

The fact that you refused to deny any of those statements means you’re almost as bad as Xiao. Jesus. I know you guys don’t have stars often but Toody is NOT on that level my god. He sure didn’t look good guarding Jamal Murray in the playoffs I can tell you that much.

Nope, like said before...you guys love stats except when it proves your argument wrong

[RRR3]

Is that why they have more dunks than he does? ��
The reason he has more dunks than AD is solely because AD can shoot and create his own offense and thus doesn’t rely completely on lob dunks. That’s literally it.

[RRR3]

Nope, like said before...you guys love stats except when it proves your argument wrong
I’ve given you guys stats that prove Rudy has minimal offense impact and they’s always ignored.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Seems to me that the Lakers are going to get the top seed after all, Jazz and Suns wont be able to keep up. After all, Lebron has yet again the best team in the league since 2011-2016, the Lakers are so stacked and theres no excuse not winning it.

[Xiao Yao You]

Setting screens and running to the rim is all Rudy can do because he's garbage at everything else offensively :oldlol:

Can't face up, can't post up, can't shoot to save his life.

And Capela and AD are both better rim runners and lob targets than Rudy

He's elite at screening, rim running and offensive rebounding. What else does the best defender in the world need to do at that end? Showed he can shoot too. Dunks are more efficient. Those other guys are usually hurt so I wouldn't know if they are better or not

[Xiao Yao You]

He literally got exploited on defense in the Rockets series a couple of years ago and against the Nuggets this year because he's not quick enough to come out onto the perimeter

Rudy can hold his own defending elite guards for a couple of possessions but you guys act like he's Scottie Pippen and can defend all 5 positions

They lost to Houston because of bad offense. They lost to Denver because him, O'Neale and Ingles were the only guys defending. Same problem they are having now except Conley and Niang also defend now too

[Xiao Yao You]

I’ve given you guys stats that prove Rudy has minimal offense impact and they’s always ignored.

you can't pick and choose the stats. Many stats that show his impact at that end. They aren't a top 5 offense because he's making a minimal impact

[mehyaM24]

rudy gobert & the jazz actually have haters? :oldlol: they have the west's best record & are still lowkey

[Xiao Yao You]

Seems to me that the Lakers are going to get the top seed after all, Jazz and Suns wont be able to keep up. After all, Lebron has yet again the best team in the league since 2011-2016, the Lakers are so stacked and theres no excuse not winning it.

Jazz still have the easiest schedule. Despite their bad play no on else can pass them. Their recent play might be the best thing to happen to them actually. I didn't expect the front office to make any moves when they were playing well. There's no reason not to seek help now. Have a roster spot open for a buyout as well

[Xiao Yao You]

rudy gobert & the jazz actually have haters? :oldlol: they have the west's best record & are still lowkey

trolls will troll

[RRR3]

you can't pick and choose the stats. Many stats that show his impact at that end. They aren't a top 5 offense because he's making a minimal impact
I don’t pick and choose the stats. The stats that I’ve shown you are based on IMPACT (I.e. how the team does when he’s on the court versus off adjusted for various factors). The stats you’ve displayed are just based on his box score and Rudy generally produces good looking box scores so it’s not surprising his box score offensive stats are good.

[Xiao Yao You]

I don’t pick and choose the stats. The stats that I’ve shown you are based on IMPACT (I.e. how the team does when he’s on the court versus off adjusted for various factors). The stats you’ve displayed are just based on his box score and Rudy generally produces good looking box scores so it’s not surprising his box score offensive stats are good.

his teammates box scores reflect his impact. Open 3's, assists, 2nd chances, layups etc. Watch a game. See how integral he is to their offense

[Xiao Yao You]

Ben Anderson: Rudy Gobert is questionable tonight with a left hip contusion. Mike Conley is back against the @Toronto Raptors. – via Twitter BensHoops




the trolls might get a night off?

[RRR3]

his teammates box scores reflect his impact. Open 3's, assists, 2nd chances, layups etc. Watch a game. See how integral he is to their offense
If he was integral to their offense it would be reflected in the impact stats. I’m not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you.

[Xiao Yao You]

If he was integral to their offense it would be reflected in the impact stats. I’m not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you.

top 5 offense. Open 3's because of screens and his pressure on the rim. Open drives because of his screens and pressure on the rim. 2nd chances because of his offensive rebounding.

[Manny98]

Just checked Rudy literally has a negative ORPM

But yeah keep telling us how Rudy can defend 1-5 and is one of the best offensive players in the league :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Just checked Rudy literally has a negative ORPM

But yeah keep telling us how Rudy can defend 1-5 and is one of the best offensive players in the league :oldlol:
He frequently has a negative or at best slightly positive ORPM. Same with ORAPTOR. I’d imagine OLEBRON is the same.

[Manny98]

He frequently has a negative or at best slightly positive ORPM. Same with ORAPTOR. I’d imagine OLEBRON is the same.
He's barely average offensively.

He can't score at a high volume and isn't a playmaker.

Yet Xiao wants to act like he's Embiid and Jokic level on offense :facepalm

[Proctor]

He's barely average offensively.

He can't score at a high volume and isn't a playmaker.

Yet Xiao wants to act like he's Embiid and Jokic level on offense :facepalm

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=31982&dateline=1542148632

[mehyaM24]

He frequently has a negative or at best slightly positive ORPM. Same with ORAPTOR. I’d imagine OLEBRON is the same.

they named a stat after this dude? :roll: GOAT shit

[Xiao Yao You]

He's barely average offensively.

He can't score at a high volume and isn't a playmaker.

Yet Xiao wants to act like he's Embiid and Jokic level on offense :facepalm

Not a scorer or playmaker just makes a huge impact at the offensive end. Hard for trolls to wrap their feeble minds around

[Manny98]

Not a scorer or playmaker just makes a huge impact at the offensive end. Hard for trolls to wrap their feeble minds around
"Huge" is an exaggeration he's barely a positive in most offensive metrics.

[RRR3]

"Huge" is an exaggeration he's barely a positive in most offensive metrics.
He doesn’t care. He thinks Rudy is an “offensive catalyst” because Quin Snyder said so. The same Quin Snyder he constantly says is an idiot.

[Xiao Yao You]

He doesn’t care. He thinks Rudy is an “offensive catalyst” because Quin Snyder said so. The same Quin Snyder he constantly says is an idiot.

why do you love putting words in my mouth? COTM not an idiot just not a great head coach