Memphis at Utah 1st of 3 of the next 4 games against Memphis

[Xiao Yao You]

Projected Starting Lineups
UTAH: G: Mike Conley G: Donovan Mitchell (https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/285727/donovan-mitchell) F: Bojan Bogdanovic (https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/296477/bojan-bogdanovic) F: Royce O’Neale (https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/298001/royce-o-neale) C: Rudy Gobert (https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297107/rudy-gobert)


MEM (predicted): G: Ja Morant G: Grayson Allen F: Dillon Brooks F: Kyle Anderson C: Jonas Valanciunas

[Xiao Yao You]

pick up the D

Rudy with 13 straight at the line. 86% the last 3

[Xiao Yao You]

making their run early again

[Xiao Yao You]

Happy 59th to Stockton!

[Xiao Yao You]

the last 8 minutes were great. Keep it up

[Xiao Yao You]

killing Jonas in pick and roll

[Xiao Yao You]

Not as good that quarter

Clarkson killing them. Trying to equal last game. Who would have thought that was possible?

Triple double watch for the world's best shooter Ingles

Favors was more active than usual

Mitchell at his best

[RRR3]

Not as good that quarter

Clarkson killing them. Trying to equal last game. Who would have thought that was possible?

Triple double watch for the world's best shooter Ingles

Favors was more active than usual

Mitchell at his best
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Did Curry die?

[Xiao Yao You]

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Did Curry die?

3rd best TS% ever. Best ever from non big.

[RRR3]

3rd best TS% ever. Best ever from non big.
Yes because he and Curry are guarded the same way and have comparable volume. You’re a retard.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yes because he and Curry are guarded the same way and have comparable volume. You’re a retard.

you're the one trolling every post I make :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

blowing the lead. Taking it at Favors

[Xiao Yao You]

getting worse every quarter

[Xiao Yao You]

Morant putting on a show

[Xiao Yao You]

Brevin Knight and Memphis play by play guy more impressed with Gobert than our resident trolls

[Xiao Yao You]

Memphis hanging

[Xiao Yao You]

getting chippy

[AirBonner]

No one appears to care about these two teams

[Xiao Yao You]

Usually only the trolls and I. Not sure where they went to. 20/10 performances usually scare them away

[Xiao Yao You]

Can't pull away

[Proctor]

No one appears to care about these two teams

He's pulling out all the stops, yelling at the clouds and throwing out bait like Ingles being the best shooter

Rough night, nobody cares about this any more than the Bulls game the other night

When the Jazz play a good team, let us know

[Xiao Yao You]

Why everyone wouldn't want to watch Morant play is beyond me though

[Xiao Yao You]

I know he's not Lebron but he's special

[Proctor]

Hey Gobert, feel free to stop Morant since apparently you can guard 1-5

[Xiao Yao You]

trying to choke

[Xiao Yao You]

Morant has passed it almost every time in the paint against Gobert. He's not stupid

[RRR3]

He's pulling out all the stops, yelling at the clouds and throwing out bait like Ingles being the best shooter

Rough night, nobody cares about this any more than the Bulls game the other night

When the Jazz play a good team, let us know
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[Proctor]

Mitchell to the rescue again

See this story too often

[Xiao Yao You]

chippy. Should be a great 3 game series!

[Proctor]

Gobert losing his composure and shoving Morant. :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert losing his composure and shoving Morant. :roll:

Morant led with a forearm the time before and than is crying when it gets physical from the other side

[Xiao Yao You]

Brooks with a prayer

[Proctor]

Gobert is acting like a soft bitch tonight. This will have to change in the playoffs for the Jazz to move on

[LoneyROY7]

Another all-star performance from Mitchell.

Where would they be without him?

[Proctor]

Another all-star performance from Mitchell.

Where would they be without him?

Lottery

[Xiao Yao You]

Another all-star performance from Mitchell.

Where would they be without him?

Morant with 32, Allen with 17, Brooks with 22. Great job Mitchell! :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

Escaped. Off night for Conley. Clarkson continues to suck. Favors can't stop anyone.

[RRR3]

Another all-star performance from Mitchell.

Where would they be without him?
They'd be fine since they could just run the offense through Dirk Gobertski

[Xiao Yao You]

They'd be fine since they could just run the offense through Dirk Gobertski

Probably be better. Certainly more consistent with Conley and Ingles running the show and Oni defending instead of Mitchell

[LoneyROY7]

Mitch averaging 29/6/5 over his last 10 games. :applause:

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitch averaging 29/6/5 over his last 10 games. :applause:

check out some of the shooting % and TO's though. Definitely an 0-9 from 3 in there. And of course little to no D

[RRR3]

Probably be better. Certainly more consistent with Conley and Ingles running the show and Oni defending instead of Mitchell
Mitchell is 13th in the entire NBA in ORAPTOR and 14th in ORPM, but sure they'd be better without him on offense :rolleyes:

God you're stupid.

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell is 13th in the entire NBA in ORAPTOR and 14th in ORPM, but sure they'd be better without him on offense :rolleyes:

God you're stupid.

O isn't D. If you're giving it back at the other end who cares?

[AirBonner]

Mitchell >>> Gobert

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Hol up they play each other 3 times in a week :biggums::biggums:

Shit Memphis got a BRUTAL schedule the next month. They might slip outta playins... May is kinda soft tho.

This finna go down to the wire for the playins.

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell >>> Gobert

I wish that was the case:cry:

[RRR3]

I wish that was the case:cry:
Certainly the case on offense.

[Callystarr]

blowing the lead. Taking it at Favors

Yeah the same exact lineup that Rudy has a -20 rating. Worse than Favors.

[Callystarr]

Another all-star performance from Mitchell.

Where would they be without him?

I see you guys pay 0 attention to defense. Thus the reason he finished -10.

Clueless fans

[Callystarr]

Mitch averaging 29/6/5 over his last 10 games. :applause:

Awww scoring, rebounds, and assists 🙄

How many forced up shots, and completely non existent defense. Dude couldnt even jeep Allen quiet.

[Callystarr]

Mitchell is 13th in the entire NBA in ORAPTOR and 14th in ORPM, but sure they'd be better without him on offense :rolleyes:

God you're stupid.

The jazz do play better without him.

Have you looked at his on/off numbers the last two seasons. Every category is a negative and he plays with the starters more than Gobert and Conley.

Watch the games and try paying attention to his pathetic defense

[Callystarr]

Mitchell >>> Gobert

FALSE...let me correct this for you

Rudy > Mike > Donovan

[Xiao Yao You]

Certainly the case on offense.

as long as efficiency and turnovers aren't an issue and all you care about are ppg sure

[Xiao Yao You]

FALSE...let me correct this for you

Rudy > Mike > Donovan

There's people I'd put between Mike and Mitchell. O'Neale and Ingles for sure

[Manny98]

There's people I'd put between Mike and Mitchell. O'Neale and Ingles for sure
:facepalm

[Callystarr]

There's people I'd put between Mike and Mitchell. O'Neale and Ingles for sure

They don’t realize that if Ingles shot as many times Donovan did, he would average 34 points a game LOL, Donovan what shoots the third most shots per game, but he’s not even top 10 in scoring, yeah that’s really efficient SMH

[Xiao Yao You]

They don’t realize that if Ingles shot as many times Donovan did, he would average 34 points a game LOL, Donovan what shoots the third most shots per game, but he’s not even top 10 in scoring, yeah that’s really efficient SMH

They only see ppg and ESPN highlites

[Manny98]

They don’t realize that if Ingles shot as many times Donovan did, he would average 34 points a game LOL, Donovan what shoots the third most shots per game, but he’s not even top 10 in scoring, yeah that’s really efficient SMH
It's not as simple as that
Ingles struggles to even create his own shot so it's virtually impossible for him to put up Mitchell's numbers in situation where he's the number 1 option

[Xiao Yao You]

It's not as simple as that
Ingles struggles to even create his own shot so it's virtually impossible for him to put up Mitchell's numbers in situation where he's the number 1 option

Ingles plays D and runs the offense better too

[Proctor]

Ingles plays D and runs the offense better too

So no rebuttal to what he said. Got it. Can't rank anyone either. Got it.

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Gobert iz zo good!!!!!

[RRR3]

So no rebuttal to what he said. Got it. Can't rank anyone either. Got it.

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Gobert iz zo good!!!!!
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[RRR3]

as long as efficiency and turnovers aren't an issue and all you care about are ppg sure
Tyson Chandler was definitely a better offensive player than Carmelo Anthony on the 2013 Knicks by this “logic”. Offensive impact stats show Mitchell is a massive positive on offense whereas Gobert is fairly neutral. Gobert is better overall of course but that’s because of defense.

[LoneyROY7]

They don’t realize that if Ingles shot as many times Donovan did, he would average 34 points a game LOL, Donovan what shoots the third most shots per game, but he’s not even top 10 in scoring, yeah that’s really efficient SMH

These Utah fans really are delusional. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

These Utah fans really are delusional. :oldlol:
Methinks Mitchell has too much melanin for these Mormons.

[Proctor]

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Gonna have to put a Jazz logo or Gobert jersey on this.

[Xiao Yao You]

Tyson Chandler was definitely a better offensive player than Carmelo Anthony on the 2013 Knicks by this “logic”. Offensive impact stats show Mitchell is a massive positive on offense whereas Gobert is fairly neutral. Gobert is better overall of course but that’s because of defense.

I'd certainly have rather had Chandler or almost anyone than Carmelo on my team. Not a great example.

Depends on what stats you are looking at or you could just watch a game for a change and you'll see the impact. Gobert had 25 last night because Memphis chose to stay with the shooters and let Rudy go. Tonight they may have to send help at Rudy and the 3 point line will open up

[Xiao Yao You]

Methinks Mitchell has too much melanin for these Mormons.

not a mormon. Utah isn't known for producing great athletes so people here appreciate basketball on a different level than just dunking and isos.

[Proctor]

I'd certainly have rather had Chandler or almost anyone than Carmelo on my team. Not a great example.

Depends on what stats you are looking at or you could just watch a game for a change and you'll see the impact. Gobert had 25 last night because Memphis chose to stay with the shooters and let Rudy go. Tonight they may have to send help at Rudy and the 3 point line will open up
That says nothing about Gobert's ability to score. Call it the Draymond effect.

Most teams will be happy to let Gobert have 25 if it means allowing the Jazz only 12 threes on a mediocre percentage. If they send help at Rudy, that's their own stupidity and surely isn't because Gobert is some offensive threat.

Neither one of these scenarios make Gobert look like anything noteworthy offensively. Either he's scoring a bundle because teams are happy to let him go, or the other team is naive and stupid and treating him like something he isn't. This doesn't show up in box scores though so it may not be clear to you.

[Xiao Yao You]

That says nothing about Gobert's ability to score. Call it the Draymond effect.

Most teams will be happy to let Gobert have 25 if it means allowing the Jazz only 12 threes on a mediocre percentage. If they send help at Rudy, that's their own stupidity and surely isn't because Gobert is some offensive threat.

Neither one of these scenarios make Gobert look like anything noteworthy offensively. Either he's scoring a bundle because teams are happy to let him go, or the other team is naive and stupid and treating him like something he isn't. This doesn't show up in box scores though so it may not be clear to you.

The topic was offense not scoring Proctor. Stay with us here. I know it's hard for you guys but there's more to offense than scoring. Most teams don't allow Rudy to score 25. That's why they have so many open 3's. The dunk is still the most effective shot in the game unless you're Joe Ingles. Rudy holds the record for dunks. 2nd all time in effective FG%. Not sure why it would be stupid to send help to stop that? Pick your poison. We haven't even factored in screens and offensive rebounding. I realize I'm wasting my breath on those that think ppg is all that matters. It's not 1980 anymore :lol

[Proctor]

The topic was offense not scoring Proctor. Stay with us here. I know it's hard for you guys but there's more to offense than scoring. Most teams don't allow Rudy to score 25. That's why they have so many open 3's. The dunk is still the most effective shot in the game unless you're Joe Ingles. Rudy holds the record for dunks. 2nd all time in effective FG%. Not sure why it would be stupid to send help to stop that? Pick your poison. We haven't even factored in screens and offensive rebounding. I realize I'm wasting my breath on those that think ppg is all that matters. It's not 1980 anymore :lol
Sounds like we agree then. Rudy does little else scoring wise than dunks. Apart from scoring, he's great at screens and rebounding (like a dozen or more other guys in the league). And he's allowed to score in bunches sometimes because teams don't want to allow the 3. Superb.

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[Xiao Yao You]

Sounds like we agree then. Rudy does little else scoring wise than dunks. Apart from scoring, he's great at screens and rebounding (like a dozen or more other guys in the league). And he's allowed to score in bunches sometimes because teams don't want to allow the 3. Superb.

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Why would you want him to do anything other than what he is the best at ever? Name a dozen guys that are elite screeners, rollers and offensive rebounders? You want to give up a dunk or an open 3? You have a choice. Some choose the 3 and regret it later and some choose the dunk and regret it later. Not an easy decision

[Proctor]

Why would you want him to do anything other than what he is the best at ever? Name a dozen guys that are elite screeners, rollers and offensive rebounders? You want to give up a dunk or an open 3? You have a choice. Some choose the 3 and regret it later and some choose the dunk and regret it later. Not an easy decision

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[Xiao Yao You]

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He's not the all time dunk record holder?

[RRR3]

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[Xiao Yao You]

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Homer and Rudy. Two icons. Well done! :cheers:

[Proctor]

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:lol:roll::applause:

[Xiao Yao You]

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Good thing they have Mitchell to run the offense! :lol

[Manny98]

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