The only difference between Paul George and Pippen is the winning spotlight

[3ball]

Much of Pippen's accolades was driven by the winning spotlight and PG actually couldn't get away with playing like Pippen

(averaging 16 on 40% like Pippen did in every big series or 2.0 BPM in the 93' Playoffs or 17 on 41% for the 96-98' Playoffs)

[RRR3]

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[ZionDunks]

Paul George has no cultural relevance man. No one even knows who he is or cares.

Hilarious thread

[Axe]

At least pippen has been to the finals more than thrice and one game away from it without his first scoring option

[SouBeachTalents]

Jordan is considered the GOAT by many and it's still not good enough for OP. Scottie Pippen can't even be considered a good player, neither can LeBron. It'll be 2030 and OP will still be making these threads, he'll never find peace :(

[SATAN]

Sick of hearing people mention Paul George as one of the best defenders of all time tbh

[light]

Riiiight. Other than that they are identical people.

Please.

They are totally different. Pippen is more like a defensive Magic Johnson while George is more like a Kobe Bryant wannabe.

[Uncle Drew]

The only difference between Pippen and George is that Pippen was a far superior player. If George Paul retired today, people would've forgotten him tomorrow. Pippen, on the other hand, is a legend, a top 25 player and will be remembered for a lifetime.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Papa Kawhi is showing George the light. This is Kawhi's 7th season as the leader of VORP on a top 3 SRS team, while George has never even been on a top 5 SRS team other then the two he played with Kawhi. Also look at George's FG% since 2016: 43% and this season with Kawhi: 47%

Now just don't throw them in the prison bubble or else he will have his migraine like 1990. Clippers also had to play the GOAT euro players in Luka\Jokic, so they got tired and were living in a prison.

[coastalmarker99]

Papa Kawhi is showing George the light. This is Kawhi's 7th season as the leader of VORP on a top 3 SRS team, while George has never even been on a top 5 SRS team other then the two he played with Kawhi. Also look at George's FG% since 2016: 43% and this season with Kawhi: 47%

Now just don't throw them in the prison bubble or else he will have his migraine like 1990. Clippers also had to play the GOAT euro players in Luka\Jokic, so they got tired and were living in a prison.


No it was the fact that Kawhi produced the worst choke in Nba history and utterly disappeared in games 5 to 7 when he only scored 14 points on 22 shots as the Nuggets blew them out.


Kawhi has a serious history of choking in the playoffs and one fluke ring in 2019 plus role player ring in 2014 doesn't change that narrative at all.





He choked in the 2013 finals when he missed free throws that could have won the series for the Spurs


He choked in 2015 and 2016 against both the Clippers and Thunder.




He faked an injury in 2018 and hid like a coward as his teammates and coach fought hard on the court without him.





Durant owns Kawhi it is a fact he cooked him in the 2016 playoffs and he would have also cooked him in the 2019 finals if he was fully healthy and able to play in that series.

[nayte]

Why you guys still argue with 3ball is a mystery. him and LeBron fans are two sides to the same coin.lol

[3ball]

Jordan is considered the GOAT by many and it's still not good enough for OP. Scottie Pippen can't even be considered a good player, neither can LeBron. It'll be 2030 and OP will still be making these threads, he'll never find peace :(


Every poll shows that most people think Jordan is goat, not just "many" people

Otoh, lebron lacks the skill to play with certain player types, so he needed to hand-pick his teams.. he hand-picked the league favorites and then mostly lost.. he's the goat loser, aka he mostly loses regardless of cast, coach or odds

[Doranku]

lol you wanna talk about 40% shooting? Playoff P is the king of 40% clunkers.

Playoff P has shot 40% or less in 49/89 (55%) of his playoff games.

Scottie only shot 40% or less in 78/208 (38%) of his playoff games.

Somehow, despite being a 6'8 athletic SF and playing in the easiest era EVER for a perimeter player to score, Playoff P even edges out Iverson in this department. :lol He was the only person I could think of who could even compare.

Playoff P sucks. '91-93 Scottie is two tiers above anything we've seen from PG in the playoffs.

[Axe]

Every poll shows that most people think Jordan is goat

Lebron's career is completely manufactured - he lacks the skill to play with certain player types, so he needed to hand-pick his teams.. he hand-picked the league favorites and then mostly lost.. he's the goat loser, aka he mostly loses regardless of cast, coach or odds
The reason why jordan also gets clowned at is because of folks like you.

[3ball]

lol you wanna talk about 40% shooting? Playoff P is the king of 40% clunkers.

Playoff P has shot 40% or less in 49/89 (55%) of his playoff games.

Scottie only shot 40% or less in 78/208 (38%) of his playoff games.

Somehow, despite being a 6'8 athletic SF and playing in the easiest era EVER for a perimeter player to score, Playoff P even edges out Iverson in this department. :lol He was the only person I could think of who could even compare.

Playoff P sucks. '91-93 Scottie is two tiers above anything we've seen from PG in the playoffs.


Pippen has weaker stats than PG but far more accolades because of the winning spotlight

Pippen's career statistical ranks place him about 120th all-time.. only the winning spotlight inflated him

He averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals and has many series like this... Again, PG would be crucified for playing like this

[tpols]

lol you wanna talk about 40% shooting? Playoff P is the king of 40% clunkers.

Playoff P has shot 40% or less in 49/89 (55%) of his playoff games.

Scottie only shot 40% or less in 78/208 (38%) of his playoff games.

Somehow, despite being a 6'8 athletic SF and playing in the easiest era EVER for a perimeter player to score, Playoff P even edges out Iverson in this department. :lol He was the only person I could think of who could even compare.

Playoff P sucks. '91-93 Scottie is two tiers above anything we've seen from PG in the playoffs.

How would Pippen's efficiency fare if his best offensive help over his career up until last year was Roy Hibbert, David West, and Russell Westbrook? And conversely, how would "Playoff P's" efficiency look if he got to play with prime Michael Jordan his whole career? Things to think about.... Pippen's playoff efficiency sucked with the Rockets, Blazers, and the one year he was the man in 1994.

[nayte]

Speaking on efficiency and points. A fair point tbh. People use that against Kobe playing with Shaq .

[ShawkFactory]

Every poll shows that most people think Jordan is goat, not just "many" people

Otoh, lebron lacks the skill to play with certain player types, so he needed to hand-pick his teams.. he hand-picked the league favorites and then mostly lost.. he's the goat loser, aka he mostly loses regardless of cast, coach or odds

I’ve never seen someone prove another persons point as aggressively as you just did :lol

[TheGoatest]

The only difference between pre-1987 Jordan and pre-2004 Tracy McGrady is that the post-1987 Jordan got Scottie Pippen on his team and post-2004 Tracy McGrady didn't.

[dankok8]

The Pippen vs. George comparison isn't terrible in general but they are very different players. Pippen is a much better defender and playmaker and George is the better shooter and scorer.

[pandiani17]

This thread:facepalm Scottie Pippen is a much better player than PG, until now at least. PG will have to start adding accolades to his resume pretty soon if he wants to be in the same conversation as Pippen.

[tpols]

This thread:facepalm Scottie Pippen is a much better player than PG, until now at least. PG will have to start adding accolades to his resume pretty soon if he wants to be in the same conversation as Pippen.

That's the whole point. Paul George played with Roy Hibbert, David West, Lance Stephenson, and Russell Westbrook as his best help for 95% of his career. Pippen had Michael Jordan. If Paul George was the winning sidekick for 6 titles, he'd have a ton more accolades. The same way a guy like Draymond Green can have a bunch of all league awards and all star selections. The Dubs winning spotlight and system awarded him more shine and accolades than he would have gotten on the Magic. Dray on almost any other team is his usual 2nd round self. Now Pippen was a lotto pick top 5 but so was Paul George. So they are on equal talent planes with different career helps and situations.

[LeCola]

PG is more talented, Pippen is more mentally skilled.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

No it was the fact that Kawhi produced the worst choke in Nba history and utterly disappeared in games 5 to 7 when he only scored 14 points on 22 shots as the Nuggets blew them out.


Kawhi has a serious history of choking in the playoffs and one fluke ring in 2019 plus role player ring in 2014 doesn't change that narrative at all.





He choked in the 2013 finals when he missed free throws that could have won the series for the Spurs


He choked in 2015 and 2016 against both the Clippers and Thunder.




He faked an injury in 2018 and hid like a coward as his teammates and coach fought hard on the court without him.





Durant owns Kawhi it is a fact he cooked him in the 2016 playoffs and he would have also cooked him in the 2019 finals if he was fully healthy and able to play in that series.

What idiot have you been listening too? wrong on every point

- How did he disappear in games 5 and 6? he averaged over 30PPG in those games, any team with decent depth would have won

- kawhi led the 2013 spurs in minutes in the finals, led them in VORP during the playoff run. It wasn't his fault that Duncan missed a wide open layup in game 7 and Tony Parker had 47% TS

- kawhi was also the best player on spurs in 2014 and led them in VORP during reg season and playoffs. Averaged 24PPG in 3 straight finals wins to Duncan's 12PPG

- 2015 clippers had two players better then anybody kawhi on his team (paul and griffin). No homecourt and would of still won series if DUncan got his old ass up and blocked midget Chris Paul for the final game winner. Tony Parker also had a -7. BPM. So Kawhi was able to squeeze out the last of Parker in 2014, similar to how he did with Lowry in 2019.

- 2016 lost against two MVPS and had Aldridge hahaha i don't think anybody in history would of won this series. You talk about how the narrative hasn't changed for Kawhi but when does the narrative change for Durant is the better question? When will Durant ever win a playoff series without an MVP on his team?

- 2019 had the greatest playoff run in NBA history. Why does Kawhi have to beat the Durant Warriors but Lebron doesn't have too? Kawhi did the same thing as Lebron did in 2016 (eliminated the 73 win of Curry\Klay\Dray with 1 of them missing roughly a game).

I hope i taught you a few things about the GOAT today. Check my past posts and there's plenty more where that came from.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

How would Pippen's efficiency fare if his best offensive help over his career up until last year was Roy Hibbert, David West, and Russell Westbrook? And conversely, how would "Playoff P's" efficiency look if he got to play with prime Michael Jordan his whole career? Things to think about.... Pippen's playoff efficiency sucked with the Rockets, Blazers, and the one year he was the man in 1994.

Pippen led the 2000 blazers in VORP and they were a top 2 SRS team, Jordan has never led a top SRS team without Pippen.

Kawhi has led 5 different top 3 SRS teams without George.

That's the difference.

[tpols]

Pippen led the 2000 blazers in VORP and they were a top 2 SRS team, Jordan has never led a top SRS team without Pippen.

Kawhi has led 5 different top 3 SRS teams without George.

That's the difference.

Kawhi hops teams. That's the only difference. If Kawhi only played with one offensive star his whole career he wouldn't have any sample size to draw from without ______. Just as MJ doesn't have any sample size to draw from without Pippen because he played his whole career with the guy. Stop playing stupid.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi hops teams. That's the only difference. If Kawhi only played with one offensive star his whole career he wouldn't have any sample size to draw from without ______. Just as MJ doesn't have any sample size to draw from without Pippen because he played his whole career with the guy. Stop playing stupid.

There was no excuse for Jordan's teams to not be be more dominant in the regular season pre Pippen. Even a guy like James Harden can carry teams in regular season. Kawhi also has never even played with a superstar in his prime before unless you count George or washed up guys like Duncan.