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Gohan
03-29-2021, 05:23 PM
Unfortunately he won’t lmbao:roll::roll::banana:

Nets got this

Kiddlovesnets
03-29-2021, 05:28 PM
Lakers have a superteam, Lebron + Davis + Drummond hell of a big three. Theres no excuse if Lebron doesnt win it all, he again has the best team in the league since 2016 and its nothing special if he wins anyway.

mehyaM24
03-29-2021, 05:34 PM
race 2 the GOAT. kyrie\durant\harden\lma\blake? its on sight

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AirBonner
03-29-2021, 06:07 PM
Lakers have a superteam, Lebron + Davis + Drummond hell of a big three. Theres no excuse if Lebron doesnt win it all, he again has the best team in the league since 2016 and its nothing special if he wins anyway.

Harden, Durant, Kyrie are all in absolute prime. LeBron is old as hell. No excuses

Kiddlovesnets
03-29-2021, 06:21 PM
Harden, Durant, Kyrie are all in absolute prime. LeBron is old as hell. No excuses

KD is no longer in prime, hes injured most of the time and probably need load management in playoffs. Lebron has big three yet again and theres no excuse if he cant take this Lakers superteam to championship.

Full Court
03-29-2021, 06:32 PM
Even if the Lakers do take the title this year, Lebron still won't be top 5 GOAT. The media hype job seems to be effective though, since people keep saying this.

KirbyPls
03-29-2021, 06:34 PM
Even if the Lakers do take the title this year, Lebron still won't be top 5 GOAT. The media hype job seems to be effective though, since people keep saying this.

Sure thing, "Coach."

L8krH8tr
03-29-2021, 06:38 PM
LOL nobody gave a flying F about Lefraud and the Fakers ring last year. ESPN talked about it for less than 24 hours.

Airupthere
03-29-2021, 06:42 PM
How can the defending champs with an upgraded superteam lineup not be favorite to win? If they win, it will be as expected.

AirBonner
03-29-2021, 06:47 PM
KD is no longer in prime, hes injured most of the time and probably need load management in playoffs. Lebron has big three yet again and theres no excuse if he cant take this Lakers superteam to championship.
Drummond is not part of a big 3 lol

SATAN
03-29-2021, 06:48 PM
Unfortunately he won’t lmbao:roll::roll:



Hahahaha!! LMAO! Wow you are the funniest person on ish! lolol! Hahahaha!!!

mehyaM24
03-29-2021, 06:49 PM
Even if the Lakers do take the title this year, Lebron still won't be top 5 GOAT

correct - it makes lebron arguably THE goat.

https://i.postimg.cc/T1L82VPd/D60t8e3-W0-AAxr6-J.jpg

Kiddlovesnets
03-29-2021, 06:49 PM
Drummond is not part of a big 3 lol

Drummond averages 18/14 and is a prime all star player, his signing gives the Lakers big three and they are now a super team. Of course his stats will decline with Lebron stealing his rebounds but that’s still a big three for you.

SATAN
03-29-2021, 06:51 PM
and is a prime all star player,

Huh??

Kiddlovesnets
03-29-2021, 06:54 PM
Huh??

Drummond averages 18/14 and can put up 25/20 at any night.

SATAN
03-29-2021, 06:57 PM
Why doesn't he average 25/20 then? :lol

:facepalm

Kiddlovesnets
03-29-2021, 06:59 PM
Why doesn't he average 25/20 then? :lol

:facepalm

Are you drunk? He averages 18/14 and this isn’t good enough? Even prime Shaq didn’t average 25/20, but he’s capable of putting up 25/20 at any game when necessary. Lebron can also put up 40/10/10 but he doesn’t do this every night, this isn’t 60s basketball.

3ball
03-29-2021, 07:04 PM
hell of a big three. Theres no excuse if Lebron doesnt win it all,





He had a great big 3 in 2017 and 2014 but there were still tons of excuses

His Finals appearances are treated like Finals wins.. there will always be excuses and the losses will be erased from history.. instead of 4/10 being a knock, people act like it's a boon

Bay Area Baller
03-29-2021, 07:06 PM
You all smell like stinky fish. Facts. Take a shower I can smell you from here.

Kiddlovesnets
03-29-2021, 07:08 PM
He had a great big 3 in 2017 and 2014 but there were still tons of excuses

His Finals appearances are treated like Finals wins.. there will always be excuses and the losses will be erased from history.. instead of 4/10 being a knock, people act like it's a boon

Yeah the media and fans will try to find all excuses. Lebron has by far the best team in the league right now, and yet they are hyping the nets as if we were 2017 Warriors. The narrative is that, if Lebron wins he’s GOAT since he beat a superteam, if he loses this isn’t his fault. People never bother to think that, maybe Lebron fails to win the finals because he simply ain’t good enough. The Lakers are favorites to win and they are trying to depict as if Lebron is against the world alone again.

3ball
03-29-2021, 07:10 PM
Yeah the media and fans will try to find all excuses. Lebron has by far the best team in the league right now, and yet they are hyping the nets as if we were 2017 Warriors. The narrative is that, if Lebron wins he’s GOAT since he beat a superteam, if he loses this isn’t his fault. People never bother to think that, maybe Lebron fails to win the finals because he simply ain’t good enough. The Lakers are favorites to win and they are trying to depict as if Lebron is against the world alone again.


His career is the definition of manufactured

Imagine if Jordan was playing in a weak conference that 1-star teams were routinely winning, but he still teamed up with Magic and McHale... :facepalm:... And still mostly lost... :facepalm::facepalm:

HoopsNY
03-29-2021, 07:30 PM
Unfortunately he won’t lmbao:roll::roll::banana:

Nets got this

Nets got what exactly? Who is playing defense for them?

mehyaM24
03-29-2021, 07:38 PM
Nets got what exactly? Who is playing defense for them?


brooklyn are title favorites according to vegas. obviously they got something right.

DoctorP
03-29-2021, 07:38 PM
same low iq topics repeated constantly

HoopsNY
03-29-2021, 07:49 PM
brooklyn are title favorites according to vegas. obviously they got something right.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be considered, but this hype is a little overrated. There are a lot of questions including health, chemistry, and defense. These are major questions.

Axe
03-29-2021, 07:51 PM
Chill out because they'll be fine. The more you jinx them tho, the merrier.

Thenameless
03-29-2021, 08:00 PM
brooklyn are title favorites according to vegas. obviously they got something right.

It's probably pretty close now that the Lakers got Drummond. Should be a good final if both teams make it.

Kiddlovesnets
03-29-2021, 08:03 PM
It's probably pretty close now that the Lakers got Drummond. Should be a good final if both teams make it.

It’s not really close though, Lakers now have their new big three(Lebron/Davis/Drummond) and they are a super team with younger core and more balanced rosters. The Lakers will be overwhelming favorites if everyone on that team is healthy, Durant will make a case for top 5 all time if he beats this Lakers superteam this year.

SATAN
03-30-2021, 03:18 AM
I don't know anything about basketball. Never played a game in my life.

We know.

light
03-30-2021, 05:11 AM
Unfortunately he won’t lmbao:roll::roll::banana:

Nets got this

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a1deae2a355c503106bf0e29b6c685f1

Imagine thinking you can win a title relying on Harden, Irving, Griffin and Aldridge.

Sportal
03-30-2021, 06:44 AM
Lakers have a superteam, Lebron + Davis + Drummond hell of a big three. Theres no excuse if Lebron doesnt win it all, he again has the best team in the league since 2016 and its nothing special if he wins anyway.

You need to stop with that bs. That is not a thing, it is not going to become a thing.

If LeBron does go through the Nets and both teams are healthy, I would really find it hard listening to people say that LeBron is not the GOAT.

LAmbruh
03-30-2021, 07:18 AM
said the same in 2013 vs goat Spurs

then again in 2016 vs 73-9 Warriors

then again in 2020 @ 36yo dominating Western Conference 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2 on a 2nd year rebuild Lakers

Truth is Lebron has been better as a player than Jordan for a longggg time, 2012 technically, 2009 realistically, 2016 officially. Everything since has just been extra credit to his resume. Lots of cherries on top to say the least

It would be nice to get to play Jimmy Butler in the Finals every year like those gritty 1.5 all-star 90's behemoths. Unfortunately Lebron isn't guarded by 35yo Jeff Hornacek in back 2 back Finals, instead he gets wave after wave of prime Durant, Iggy, Klay, Draymond checking him. And that's just 1 Finals. Michaels toughest defensive opponent was 6'2, 170 lbs point guard. :oldlol:

The man himself even lul'd, we all did

https://media.giphy.com/media/VIVWFx6c91AAwWLwWB/giphy.gif

Marchesk
03-30-2021, 10:39 AM
Hahahaha!! LMAO! Wow you are the funniest person on ish! lolol! Hahahaha!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBuZaxYxYEc&ab_channel=TubeFunniez

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 10:57 AM
You need to stop with that bs. That is not a thing, it is not going to become a thing.

If LeBron does go through the Nets and both teams are healthy, I would really find it hard listening to people say that LeBron is not the GOAT.

This is no BS, there are even people saying the same about Griffin and Aldridge. Drummond is in his prime and he averages 18/14, by any definition this is an all-star level player. So yes the Lakers have their own big three, and they have 2 sixth men of the year level player in Shroder and Harrell, they have the best and deepest rosters in the league. As overwhelming favorites to win the title, theres no excuse if Lebron not to win it all.

Lebron already couldnt be GOAT after losing in 2007, since any loss in NBA Finals is sufficient to disqualify a player from GOAT conversation. The question though, is whether Lebron is even the #2 greatest player behind MJ. I cant find reasons to put Lebron ahead of Kareem and Magic, if he fails to win with this Lakers superteam. Big three + 2 x 6th man of the year, its an utter failure if he loses in Finals again.

AirBonner
03-30-2021, 11:02 AM
This is no BS, there are even people saying the same about Griffin and Aldridge. Drummond is in his prime and he averages 18/14, by any definition this is an all-star level player. So yes the Lakers have their own big three, and they have 2 sixth men of the year level player in Shroder and Harrell, they have the best and deepest rosters in the league. As overwhelming favorites to win the title, theres no excuse if Lebron not to win it all.

Lebron already couldnt be GOAT after losing in 2007, since any loss in NBA Finals is sufficient to disqualify a player from GOAT conversation. The question though, is whether Lebron is even the #2 greatest player behind MJ. I cant find reasons to put Lebron ahead of Kareem and Magic, if he fails to win with this Lakers superteam. Big three + 2 x 6th man of the year, its an utter failure if he loses in Finals again.

No one gives a fvck about your stupid takes stfu

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 11:05 AM
No one gives a fvck about your stupid takes stfu

Actually a lot of people agree with me, its not a stupid take, at least far better than that trollish 1-9 nonsense.
:lol

AirBonner
03-30-2021, 11:06 AM
Actually a lot of people agree with me, its not a stupid take, at least far better than that trollish 1-9 nonsense.
:lol
No one agrees with you. Not even other Nets fans

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 11:07 AM
No one agrees with you. Not even other Nets fans

And who agrees with this 1-9 nonsense other than you and your alts?
:pimp:

AirBonner
03-30-2021, 11:09 AM
And who agrees with this 1-9 nonsense other than you and your alts?
:pimp:

What alts? Only account pal

mehyaM24
03-30-2021, 11:11 AM
No one agrees with you. Not even other Nets fans

has to be trolling right? don't see how anyone can think drummond, a waived player, is part of a "big 3". the only big 3 is over in brooklyn.

AirBonner
03-30-2021, 11:13 AM
has to be trolling right? don't see how anyone can think drummond, a waived player, is part of a "big 3". the only big 3 is over in brooklyn.

Brooklyn has a big 6:

Harden 8x all star
Durant 11x all star
Irving 6x all star
Griffin 6x all star
Aldridge 7x all star
Jordan 3x all star

mehyaM24
03-30-2021, 11:16 AM
Brooklyn has a big 6:

Harden 8x all star
Durant 11x all star
Irving 6x all star
Griffin 6x all star
Aldridge 7x all star
Jordan 3x all star

their top 3 are also in their prime. if they somehow fumble this championship, it'll be the WOAT chokejob.

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 11:27 AM
has to be trolling right? don't see how anyone can think drummond, a waived player, is part of a "big 3". the only big 3 is over in brooklyn.

Not really. A lot of people are saying as if Griffin and Aldridge are still all-star players. Drummond is averaging 18/14 right now, hes much better than Rodman when he joined up with the Bulls. By stats and comparison, a prime Drummond is qualified as one of the big three.

Hey Yo
03-30-2021, 11:45 AM
Brooklyn has a big 6:

Harden 8x all star
Durant 11x all star
Irving 6x all star
Griffin 6x all star
Aldridge 7x all star
Jordan 3x all star

Big 7 when you add Joe Harris who's shooting almost 49% from 3 on 6.6 attempts per game

LAmbruh
03-30-2021, 12:15 PM
Brooklyn has a big 6:

Harden 8x all star
Durant 11x all star
Irving 6x all star
Griffin 6x all star
Aldridge 7x all star
Jordan 3x all star
Holy shit :biggums:

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LAmbruh
03-30-2021, 12:17 PM
Big 7 when you add Joe Harris who's shooting almost 49% from 3 on 6.6 attempts per game
Harris is the best 3 point shooter in the league. That’s wild

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 12:28 PM
Brooklyn has a big 6:

Harden 8x all star
Durant 11x all star
Irving 6x all star
Griffin 6x all star
Aldridge 7x all star
Jordan 3x all star

You act as if Griffin, Aldridge and DJ are not washed right now.According to your logic, Lakers have big 7:

Lebron, Davis, Drummond, Gasol, Shroder, Harrell and Kuzma.

Gimmedarock
03-30-2021, 12:49 PM
Don’t matter about this title. I’ve said it a while now. Bron be GOAT. Fact is he been GOAT. Rings should only be part of it. Russell has two hands worth of rings but he’s not GOAT. Lebron passes the eye test. He’s clearly better than everyone he’s played against. He passes the stay test. He gonna be the points leader and maybe assist leader one day. He got rings. Plus, he’s an influence on our culture. This year doesn’t matter.

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 12:51 PM
Don’t matter about this title. I’ve said it a while now. Bron be GOAT. Fact is he been GOAT. Rings should only be part of it. Russell has two hands worth of rings but he’s not GOAT. Lebron passes the eye test. He’s clearly better than everyone he’s played against. He passes the stay test. He gonna be the points leader and maybe assist leader one day. He got rings. Plus, he’s an influence on our culture. This year doesn’t matter.

Lebron already lost the chance to be GOAT ever since he was swept by Spurs in 2007, the 100% finals record is a necessary condition for surpassing MJ, and any loss in the finals is enough to disqualify a player from GOAT conversation. Read this thread for further explanation:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485815-Reminder-A-100-Finals-winning-percentage-is-a-NECESSARY-condition-for-GOAT

Ainosterhaspie
03-30-2021, 02:47 PM
Don’t matter about this title. I’ve said it a while now. Bron be GOAT. Fact is he been GOAT. Rings should only be part of it. Russell has two hands worth of rings but he’s not GOAT. Lebron passes the eye test. He’s clearly better than everyone he’s played against. He passes the stay test. He gonna be the points leader and maybe assist leader one day. He got rings. Plus, he’s an influence on our culture. This year doesn’t matter.

Almost no chance he takes top career assists spot. He's 92% of the way to top points spot, but only 61% of the way to top assist spot. It will probably take two full seasons to pass Kareem, but would take about 10 to pass Stockton.

Axe
03-30-2021, 05:00 PM
What alts? Only account pal
:lol

Gimmedarock
03-30-2021, 05:27 PM
Perfect record in the finals shouldn’t matter. Lebron’s made there almost every year. To me, it’s got to be championships plus stats plus impact on the game. If Jordan made it to the finals 3 times and on all 3, would he still be GOAT? What about the brutal competition Lebron has faced. Shouldn’t that count? Just focusing on a record in the finals should make player GOAT. MY 2 cents.

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 05:30 PM
Perfect record in the finals shouldn’t matter. Lebron’s made there almost every year. To me, it’s got to be championships plus stats plus impact on the game. If Jordan made it to the finals 3 times and on all 3, would he still be GOAT? What about the brutal competition Lebron has faced. Shouldn’t that count? Just focusing on a record in the finals should make player GOAT. MY 2 cents.

Lebron made there when he started to collude to make superteams, before he left Cleveland in 2020 he didnt make it to the finals very often at all. The East was notoriously bad from 2012 to 2018, Lebron's Heat and Cavs basically had byes in playoffs until the finals. He had plenty of times to prepare for the finals and get ready for the exhausted Western Conference champions, and yet he went 3/7 during these 7 years.

Gohan
03-30-2021, 05:44 PM
Lmao nets will whoop lakers in blowout fashion most games if they get Durant back

DoctorP
03-30-2021, 06:19 PM
Almost no chance he takes top career assists spot. He's 92% of the way to top points spot, but only 61% of the way to top assist spot. It will probably take two full seasons to pass Kareem, but would take about 10 to pass Stockton.

If the steroids/HGH allow him to play until 45-47 yo he has a chance.

3ball
03-30-2021, 06:53 PM
What if he gets matched or out-produced by a teammate like the 2011, 2016, or 2020 Playoffs, or carried in the ECF by a sidekick like 2014?

So those shared loads don't compare to MJ's carry-jobs where his sidekick had a low statistical peak and Jordan out-produced him on all 6 championship by more than Dirk out-produced his sidekick in 2011..

So Jordan has 6 rings that were bigger carry-jobs than Dirk's 2011 run - this is mathematical fact, and it dwarfs lebron's shared load rings

SATAN
03-30-2021, 07:35 PM
You act as if Griffin, Aldridge and DJ are not washed right now.According to your logic, Lakers have big 7:

Lebron, Davis, Drummond, Gasol, Shroder, Harrell and Kuzma.

Kuzma? :oldlol:

Nothing you say even makes sense.

Kiddlovesnets
03-30-2021, 07:40 PM
Kuzma? :oldlol:

Nothing you say even makes sense.

According to his logic, it makes sense. Kuzma is objectively better than DJ after all.
:cheers: