Wow the Warriors struggle makes their 73 win season even more amazing

[Walk on Water]

Think about it. Curry is having a hard time getting the Warriors over 500, even with Green. The 73 win team didn't even have Durant. All these guys like Barbosa, Speights and Bogut were unwanted on other teams.

Wow. Curry only had Klay as his only star and they won 73. Green has proven he's not a star. Warriors were not a superteam. It's just that Curry carried them. The Cavaliers were actually much more talented and it was the Warriors that overachieved.

[Mr.GOAT2408]

The league was watered down in the mid 10s and having Barbosa, Speights, Bogut deep in your rotation was a luxury afforded by Curry's very team friendly contract (due to injury), no one thinks Green is anything special as a franchise player but as a role player it's a different matter, him and Curry compliment each over so well and it peaked in 2016

That team would def not be winning 73 games today or any previous era, they overachieved even getting that much in 2016, they were definitely not a super team though just a deep team with starters that compliment each other's skillsets well

Cavs were also better than record would have indicated, they basically coasted in the RS lmao it was def more evenly matched than the record would indicate, the Warriors weren't even at full strength heading into that series, they were lucky to have even made it that far because besides just overcoming 1 - 3 they probably would have lost to the Spurs if OKC hadn't beaten them the previous round

[Axe]

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[Stanley Kobrick]

it's true, Klay was the sole catalyst difference between a 73 win dynasty and Curry's 11th and 15th seed Warriors recently. really makes you respect Klay even more

[Axe]

it's true, Klay was the sole catalyst difference between a 73 win dynasty and Curry's 11th and 15th seed Warriors recently. really makes you respect Klay even more
The donkey also does his part defensively but i'm afraid op is clueless about it. :ohwell:

[Stanley Kobrick]

The donkey also does his part defensively but i'm afraid op is clueless about it. :ohwell:
not many stephen curry stans are familiar with defense otherwise they wouldn't be his stans. klay, iggy and green being NBA all-defensive team, i believe they called it the death lineup or something. the lineup when they removed curry from the final possession vs Cavs on x-mas

[Stephonit]

not many stephen curry stans are familiar with defense otherwise they wouldn't be his stans. klay, iggy and green being NBA all-defensive team, i believe they called it the death lineup or something. the lineup when they removed curry from the final possession vs Cavs on x-mas

Not many Curry haters understand the otherworldly offense that Steph provides else they'd be in utter awe of him. One could have Klay, Andre, and Green in a lineup and provide excellent defense but get trounced because they don't have the extremely rare talent that Steph has of being able to crack open opposing defenses. Even with Durant that lineup without Steph looked no better than what Durant had in OKC. It is only with Curry that it became transcendent.

[pandiani17]

Think about it. Curry is having a hard time getting the Warriors over 500, even with Green. The 73 win team didn't even have Durant. All these guys like Barbosa, Speights and Bogut were unwanted on other teams.

Wow. Curry only had Klay as his only star and they won 73. Green has proven he's not a star. Warriors were not a superteam. It's just that Curry carried them. The Cavaliers were actually much more talented and it was the Warriors that overachieved.

These guys were really, really great role players. They would play many more minutes in many teams around the league.

[r0drig0lac]

no

[Stanley Kobrick]

Not many Curry haters understand the otherworldly offense that Steph provides else they'd be in utter awe of him. One could have Klay, Andre, and Green in a lineup and provide excellent defense but get trounced because they don't have the extremely rare talent that Steph has of being able to crack open opposing defenses. Even with Durant that lineup without Steph looked no better than what Durant had in OKC. It is only with Curry that it became transcendent.

without stephen curry the warriors won 2 playoff rounds with ease. without stephen currythe warriors were also up 2-1 vs blazers in 2016 semi's, you remember curry came back from injury in gm4 and said i'm here i'm back. his only iconic playoff moment people can recall

[Stephonit]

without stephen curry the warriors won 2 playoff rounds with ease. without stephen currythe warriors were also up 2-1 vs blazers in 2016 semi's, you remember curry came back from injury in gm4 and said i'm here i'm back. his only iconic playoff moment people can recall

What 2 playoff rounds are you referring to? The only one I remember Steph not playing in was the 2018 first round against the Spurs when they didn't have Kawhi and KD was with the Warriors. Steph played in all the other Warriors playoffs series. Maybe you forget because of the Post Curry Traumatic Stress Disorder you suffer from but even in the 2016 Rockets series when Steph got injured on two separate occasions, he played close to 20 minutes in two of those games both of which the Warriors won and he was the leading scorer in the first game. It would thus be incorrect to say he didn't contribute to winning that series.

In the following 2016 Blazers series the Warriors were lucky to be up 2-1 without Steph. They were close to losing both the games they won and they were double digits behind early in Steph's comeback game before he brought them back and swept the rest of the series. It was most likely going to be a 2-2 series if Curry didn't make a reappearance. It is what made Curry's appearance doubly disheartening for the Trail Blazers, they knew they had a chance with him out but when he came back they were quickly snuffed out.

[Stephonit]

https://twitter.com/MachHomie/status/1378446039187873793

"The Golden State Warriors have the 7th worst offense in NBA history when Stephen Curry isn’t on the floor.
With him, they have the 13th best offense in the league.
We are watching one of the greatest floor raising jobs of all time.

When you filter out garbage time without Curry, it becomes the worst offense in NBA history."

[Bronbron23]

it's true, Klay was the sole catalyst difference between a 73 win dynasty and Curry's 11th and 15th seed Warriors recently. really makes you respect Klay even more

This

[Stanley Kobrick]

What 2 playoff rounds are you referring to? The only one I remember Steph not playing in was the 2018 first round against the Spurs when they didn't have Kawhi and KD was with the Warriors. Steph played in all the other Warriors playoffs series. Maybe you forget because of the Post Curry Traumatic Stress Disorder you suffer from but even in the 2016 Rockets series when Steph got injured on two separate occasions, he played close to 20 minutes in two of those games both of which the Warriors won and he was the leading scorer in the first game. It would thus be incorrect to say he didn't contribute to winning that series.

In the following 2016 Blazers series the Warriors were lucky to be up 2-1 without Steph. They were close to losing both the games they won and they were double digits behind early in Steph's comeback game before he brought them back and swept the rest of the series. It was most likely going to be a 2-2 series if Curry didn't make a reappearance. It is what made Curry's appearance doubly disheartening for the Trail Blazers, they knew they had a chance with him out but when he came back they were quickly snuffed out.
4-1 vs Rockets
2-1 vs Blazers
4-1 vs Spurs
1-0 vs Pelicans

11-3 is GSW record without Stephen Curry the Western Conference playoffs, unless your insinuating Klay Thomspon's injury in 2019 didn't affect the series because he played 32 minutes in the closeout and 40+ everyone before that. interesting either way, the instant Klay gets briefly injured Warriors lose series. fascinating actually

[Kiddlovesnets]

The 73 wins Warriors were at best a 56 wins team in playoffs though. They struggled against 55 wins Thunder, and lost to 57 wins Cavaliers, so 56 wins looks logical for how good they actually were. You may argue that they would've steamrolled the Thunder/Cavaliers instead of struggling had Curry not gone down with an injury against Rockets in the first round, but thats a different topic.

[Stephonit]

4-1 vs Rockets
2-1 vs Blazers
4-1 vs Spurs
1-0 vs Pelicans

11-3 is GSW record without Stephen Curry the Western Conference playoffs, unless your insinuating Klay Thomspon's injury in 2019 didn't affect the series because he played 32 minutes in the closeout and 40+ everyone before that. interesting either way, the instant Klay gets briefly injured Warriors lose series. fascinating actually

Didn't realize your PCTSD was so advanced. It appears it causes you to block out facts like Steph playing in two games of the 2016 Rockets series that they won despite it being explicitly explained to you. Remember to take your meds before you post again.

[Bronbron23]

Didn't realize your PCTSD was so advanced. It appears it causes you to block out facts like Steph playing in two games of the 2016 Rockets series that they won despite it being explicitly explained to you. Remember to take your meds before you post again.

Well seems like you have the same pctsd or you don't actually watch games. Giving credit to curry for game 4 when he hit 2 shots and had 6 pts on 22% shooting and was the only player that didn't have a positive +/-.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Every title team needs that elite wing defender to keep things together. Iggy was theirs. Lakers sucked in 2003 when rick fox didn't play anymore.

You replace that guy with career shitheads like oubre and Wiggins and these are the results.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Didn't realize your PCTSD was so advanced. It appears it causes you to block out facts like Steph playing in two games of the 2016 Rockets series that they won despite it being explicitly explained to you. Remember to take your meds before you post again.
just like Draymond and Bogut played in all of 2016 Finals. as did Durant and Klay in all of 2019 Finals. :cheers:

[Stephonit]

Well seems like you have the same pctsd or you don't actually watch games. Giving credit to curry for game 4 when he hit 2 shots and had 6 pts on 22% shooting and was the only player that didn't have a positive +/-.

Yes Bronbron23 we know you love to cherry-pick and are selective in what you choose to remember. The simple fact of the matter is Curry was there for 18 minutes in Game 4 before being injured a second time after being injured in Game 1. Maybe his presence or his subsequent second injury inspired his teammates. The exact dynamics at play when it comes to team sports is difficult to measure. But he was there and he was playing. Now why don't you explain why you're ignoring Steph being the leading scorer in Game 1?

[Bronbron23]

Yes Bronbron23 we know you love to cherry-pick and are selective in what you choose to remember. The simple fact of the matter is Curry was there for 18 minutes in Game 4 before being injured a second time after being injured in Game 1. Maybe his presence or his subsequent second injury inspired his teammates. The exact dynamics at play when it comes to team sports is difficult to measure. But he was there and he was playing. Now why don't you explain why you're ignoring Steph being the leading scorer in Game 1?

It's not cherry picking. You made it sound like steph was responsible for game 4 when he was in fact terrible in the limited minutes he played. As far as game one he was great. I've never said curry wasn't great. All i said was the warriors are better with klay and no steph then steph and no klay. This isn't because klay is better. It's because when down an important piece klays skill set helps the warriors maintain better than stephs does. Again this pretty simple. With no steph the warriors get worse offensively but much better defensively. With no klay the worries still get worse offensively but they also get worse defensively.

[Bronbron23]

Think about it. Curry is having a hard time getting the Warriors over 500, even with Green. The 73 win team didn't even have Durant. All these guys like Barbosa, Speights and Bogut were unwanted on other teams.

Wow. Curry only had Klay as his only star and they won 73. Green has proven he's not a star. Warriors were not a superteam. It's just that Curry carried them. The Cavaliers were actually much more talented and it was the Warriors that overachieved.

And shit dude. The 73 win warriors had an epic meltdown led by non other than steph curry. No regular season achievement can make that shit better.

[Stephonit]

It's not cherry picking. You made it sound like steph was responsible for game 4 when he was in fact terrible in the limited minutes he played. As far as game one he was great. I've never said curry wasn't great. All i said was the warriors are better with klay and no steph then steph and no klay. This isn't because klay is better. It's because when down an important piece klays skill set helps the warriors maintain better than stephs does. Again this pretty simple. With no steph the warriors get worse offensively but much better defensively. With no klay the worries still get worse offensively but they also get worse defensively.

What I said was Steph played in all Warriors playoffs series except for the 2018 first round series against the Spurs a series Durant was notably playing for the Warriors. The proposition that the Warriors led by Klay were easily winning series without Curry and were contenders even without him is therefore dubious.

As for your second point it is specious pabulum. Klay does not have the consistent knock-out power that Curry does. There is often a significant difference between best and second best and the difference between Curry and Klay or Curry and Chris Paul as another example illustrates this very well. If you would rather have Klay on your team than Steph it just shows you have fallen for the dumb idea that being good at everything will trump more focused excellence and exposes you as a clueless evaluator of talent. But I guess it shouldn't be surprising coming from someone who has such selective memory. In your fixation on downplaying Curry and propping up Klay you ignore all the instances Klay has disappeared. You rationalize that Klay is more consistent but anyone who has watched the Warriors knows he isn't.

[999Guy]

Didn't realize your PCTSD was so advanced. It appears it causes you to block out facts like Steph playing in two games of the 2016 Rockets series that they won despite it being explicitly explained to you. Remember to take your meds before you post again.
9-3 without you in the PS is insane for any superstar. Steph had loaded teams.


Steph was great but his team success had way more to do it’s the team as a whole than just him.

It’s now obvious to the average idiot, it should be obvious to you.

Curry may well have been the league’s best player for a few yrs there, but GS W/L had nothing to do with it.

Curry’s still probably the best guard in the NBA, and he won’t make the playoffs. Team game.

[Bronbron23]

What I said was Steph played in all Warriors playoffs series except for the 2018 first round series against the Spurs a series Durant was notably playing for the Warriors. The proposition that the Warriors led by Klay were easily winning series without Curry and were contenders even without him is therefore dubious.

As for your second point it is specious pabulum. Klay does not have the consistent knock-out power that Curry does. There is often a significant difference between best and second best and the difference between Curry and Klay or Curry and Chris Paul as another example illustrates this very well. If you would rather have Klay on your team than Steph it just shows you have fallen for the dumb idea that being good at everything will trump more focused excellence and exposes you as a clueless evaluator of talent. But I guess it shouldn't be surprising coming from someone who has such selective memory. In your fixation on downplaying Curry and propping up Klay you ignore all the instances Klay has disappeared. You rationalize that Klay is more consistent but anyone who has watched the Warriors knows he isn't.

Nah like most steph stans your emotions don't allow you be unbiased. Im not saying klay is better in general or i'd rather have him on my team. Steph is the better player and as you say the player with the it factor or knock out punch. In most situations i'd rather have steph but it depends on the team and situation. On those warriors teams i'd probably rather have klay and no steph then steph without klay. This is for the simple fact that without steph they were stil decent offensively but they were very good defensively. They no longer had a weakness on the defensive end.

And based on the sample of games we have i don't know how with a straight face you can say otherwise. We know for a fact those warriors teams could compete in the playoffs without steph. We have no idea if steph could do the same. Based on the games steph has played without him it dosn't look likely.

As far as me saying they could contend that's debatable i guess. They were on there way to beating portland to play in the western conference finals. That's a contender in my eyes. Maybe not a strong one but one still. I don't think they were gonna win or anything but with their defense and deep bench i wouldn't have been surprised if they came close.

[Stephonit]

9-3 without you in the PS is insane for any superstar. Steph had loaded teams.


Steph was great but his team success had way more to do it’s the team as a whole than just him.

It’s now obvious to the average idiot, it should be obvious to you.

Curry may well have been the league’s best player for a few yrs there, but GS W/L had nothing to do with it.

Curry’s still probably the best guard in the NBA, and he won’t make the playoffs. Team game.


Sorry I'm smarter than the average idiot so this explanation of yours isn't obvious to me at all.

[999Guy]

Sorry I'm smarter than the average idiot so this explanation of yours isn't obvious to me at all.

So the idea that Curry was not mostly(as in literally mostly like you would imply, not more than others like I’m saying) responsible for GS breaking win records is not obvious to you?

He’s on a .500 team now, and it means nothing, but GS W/L when they won a ton means everything?

Your arguments for Curry being best and I remember you even saying goat level, were nonsense. This year has exposed it in a clear way. Nobody carries a team to winning 67 games per year. Or least nobody has so far.

[Axe]

Well seems like you have the same pctsd or you don't actually watch games. Giving credit to curry for game 4 when he hit 2 shots and had 6 pts on 22% shooting and was the only player that didn't have a positive +/-.
Curry has never won anything remotely close to 73 wins without steve kerr and his then assistant coach luke walton yet that stan somehow thinks the head coach himself is overrated when he's the catalyst to pioneering the warriors into a dynasty during his rookie year.

[Bronbron23]

Curry has never won anything remotely close to 73 wins without steve kerr and his then assistant coach luke walton yet that stan somehow thinks the head coach himself is overrated when he's the catalyst to pioneering the warriors into a dynasty during his rookie year.

Yeah curry fans are crazy with this shit. Steph is great but it was always that team as a whole that made them special. They played great team offense which steph gets the lion share of the credit for and they played great team defense which steph gets very little credit for. Take away any one of the necessary pieces and they go from a championship contender to a mediocre team.

[Stephonit]

So the idea that Curry was not mostly(as in literally mostly like you would imply, not more than others like IÂ’m saying) responsible for GS breaking win records is not obvious to you?

HeÂ’s on a .500 team now, and it means nothing, but GS W/L when they won a ton means everything?

Your arguments for Curry being best and I remember you even saying goat level, were nonsense. This year has exposed it in a clear way. Nobody carries a team to winning 67 games per year. Or least nobody has so far.

Him being on a .500 team now would mean nothing to those who know nothing. But to those who are aware of history and know how rare it is for a bottom dwelling team to reach the playoffs the very next year, it would be notable.

A person aware of the probabilities would actually recognize that this year, contrary to what you seem to think, is confirming even more that Curry is an all-time great player. It is a great data point to contrast with his years where he led a team to 67 wins three straight years (something no one else in NBA history can claim) with only Klay Thompson and Draymond Green as his primary support. This year is confirming yet again with a different cast if 2013 wasn't enough that Curry is a terrific floor raiser as well as possibly the greatest ceiling raiser in NBA history.

[Stephonit]

Yeah curry fans are crazy with this shit. Steph is great but it was always that team as a whole that made them special. They played great team offense which steph gets the lion share of the credit for and they played great team defense which steph gets very little credit for. Take away any one of the necessary pieces and they go from a championship contender to a mediocre team.


The crazy ones are those who see Curry leading a team with Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to 73 wins and don't recognize how absolutely incredible he was to be able to do that while other far more stacked and proven teams in NBA history weren't.

People in the future will be looking back and comparing Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to Pippen and Rodman and McHale and Parish and Magic and Worthy and be floored that Curry was able to do so much with such unproven talents.

Klay Thompson as good as he has been has never been the level of MVP candidate that Pippen or McHale were for example and Draymond Green was a second rounder who when left as arguably the best player on the team swiftly led them to the bottom of the standings.

[Bronbron23]

The crazy ones are those who see Curry leading a team with Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to 73 wins and don't recognize how absolutely incredible he was to able to do that while other far more stacked and proven teams in NBA history weren't.

People in the future will be looking back and comparing Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to Pippen and Rodman and McHale and Parish and Magic and Worthy and be floored that Curry was able to do so much with such unproven talents.

Klay Thompson as good as he has been has never been the level of MVP candidate that Pippen or McHale were for example.

Well klay has never had a chance to lead the warriors in his prime like pip did. If he had of all signs point to him putting up better offensive numbers than pip while still being great defensively. No reason why tbe warriors couldn't habe gone 50 plus wins with klay leading them but i guess will never know.

As far klay being viewed as pip in the future he probably won't even be viewed close to that. He's probably done due to his injuries and he's gonna finish with way less chips, numbers and accolades as pip. Steph on the other hand won't be viewed as mj if that's what your getting at. He'll most likely be viewed as he should be. A top 20 player qnd the greatest shooter ever who just wasn't quite great enough to be the best player on the floor on the biggest stage.

[Stephonit]

Well klay has never had a chance to lead the warriors in his prime like pip did. If he had of all signs point to him putting up better offensive numbers than pip while still being great defensively. No reason why tbe warriors couldn't habe gone 50 plus wins with klay leading them but i guess will never know.

As far klay being viewed as pip in the future he probably won't even be viewed close to that. He's probably done due to his injuries and he's gonna finish with way less chips, numbers and accolades as pip. Steph on the other hand won't be viewed as mj if that's what your getting at. He'll most likely be viewed as he should be. A top 20 player qnd the greatest shooter ever who just wasn't quite great enough to be the best player on the floor on the biggest stage.

The closest approximation we have of a Klay-led Warriors would look like is what we saw in 2016 with Curry injured. A Klay-led Warriors might have been a 50-win team but it also could have been a 40-win team. The Trail Blazers were a good comparison.

How Steph will ultimately be evaluated will flummox many. He has claim to some of the greatest team records. Those who fixate on traditional individual accolades and numbers might argue as you do but anyone who takes impact seriously in what is ultimately a team sport will not be able to ignore the fact Steph sits atop most of the impact measurements. It's a Bill Russell situation all over again.

[Axe]

Yeah curry fans are crazy with this shit. Steph is great but it was always that team as a whole that made them special. They played great team offense which steph gets the lion share of the credit for and they played great team defense which steph gets very little credit for. Take away any one of the necessary pieces and they go from a championship contender to a mediocre team.
These are the type of seemingly clueless fans who only became fans of the golden state warriors too after they broke the record for most wins in regular season but barely know the past of the team itself, like how many times did they win the finals before 00s or the number of hall-of-famers plus retired numbers, etc.

[999Guy]

Him being on a .500 team now would mean nothing to those who know nothing. But to those who are aware of history and know how rare it is for a bottom dwelling team to reach the playoffs the very next year, it would be notable.

A person aware of the probabilities would actually recognize that this year, contrary to what you seem to think, is confirming even more that Curry is an all-time great player. It is a great data point to contrast with his years where he led a team to 67 wins three straight years (something no one else in NBA history can claim) with only Klay Thompson and Draymond Green as his primary support. This year is confirming yet again with a different cast if 2013 wasn't enough that Curry is a terrific floor raiser as well as possibly the greatest ceiling raiser in NBA history.

Well this year he’s leading a team to .500 with Draymond as his support, stupid.

Which would lead someone to question where Klay falls in this. You are using the same level of logic as BronBron23.

Curry + Klay + Draymond = 67 wins

Curry + Draymond = 41

Klay = ?

That’s your logic level. Have fun being just as stupid as your arch nemesis in this thread because of bad ideas about winning.

[Bronbron23]

The closest approximation we have of a Klay-led Warriors would look like is what we saw in 2016 with Curry injured. A Klay-led Warriors might have been a 50-win team but it also could have been a 40-win team. The Trail Blazers were a good comparison.

How Steph will ultimately be evaluated will flummox many. He has claim to some of the greatest team records. Those who fixate on traditional individual accolades and numbers might argue as you do but anyone who takes impact seriously in what is ultimately a team sport will not be able to ignore the fact Steph sits atop most of the impact measurements. It's a Bill Russell situation all over again.

Bill russell? Defense wins chips and bill russell is one of the greatest defenders to ever play the game. Intelligence also wins chips and russell is also known to be one of the most cerebral players. He was also a great rebounder and a goid scorer. He impacted the game on every level. This is why he has so nany chips. Curry is nothing like russell dude. He impacts the game in one way and that's scoring. Yeah he's one of the best to do it in that area but dosn't impact the game like russell did.

[light]

Think about it. Curry is having a hard time getting the Warriors over 500, even with Green. The 73 win team didn't even have Durant. All these guys like Barbosa, Speights and Bogut were unwanted on other teams.

Wow. Curry only had Klay as his only star and they won 73. Green has proven he's not a star. Warriors were not a superteam. It's just that Curry carried them. The Cavaliers were actually much more talented and it was the Warriors that overachieved.

Curry didn't carry them fully. They had the 5th ranked defense, remember, and that definitely wasn't due to Steph Curry.

The Splash Bros plus Draymond's defense and triple doubles, plus Klay's defense, plus Iggy's defense and grit... that's 4 hall of famers, right?

Golden State was much more talented than the Cavs defensively.

The difference was LeBron James. When he gets into that Game 5 Detroit mode, Game 6 Boston mode, Game 7 Spurs mode, there's nothing you can do, you're going to lose, and he got into that mode in games 5, 6 and 7 against the Warriors. He averaged something like 36/12/10 on 51% from the field, 42% from three, over those last 3 games - b2b 40 pt games.

That was maybe the greatest finals performance of all time from LeBron.

[Bronbron23]

The closest approximation we have of a Klay-led Warriors would look like is what we saw in 2016 with Curry injured. A Klay-led Warriors might have been a 50-win team but it also could have been a 40-win team. The Trail Blazers were a good comparison.

How Steph will ultimately be evaluated will flummox many. He has claim to some of the greatest team records. Those who fixate on traditional individual accolades and numbers might argue as you do but anyone who takes impact seriously in what is ultimately a team sport will not be able to ignore the fact Steph sits atop most of the impact measurements. It's a Bill Russell situation all over again.

And i love how traditional measurements are all of a sudden irrelevant because curry dosn't measures up to them. Steph stans are awesome:facepalm

[LeCola]

They were a coach team which wins games with great pace and space system.

They signed Durant and won games with talent, lost the system.

Then they lost Durant and Klay.

Now, they have neither the system nor talent.

[Bronbron23]

They were a coach team which wins games with great pace and space system.

They signed Durant and won games with talent, lost the system.

Then they lost Durant and Klay.

Now, they have neither the system nor talent.

High iq post

[Stephonit]

Curry didn't carry them fully. They had the 5th ranked defense, remember, and that definitely wasn't due to Steph Curry.

The Splash Bros plus Draymond's defense and triple doubles, plus Klay's defense, plus Iggy's defense and grit... that's 4 hall of famers, right?

Golden State was much more talented than the Cavs defensively.

The difference was LeBron James. When he gets into that Game 5 Detroit mode, Game 6 Boston mode, Game 7 Spurs mode, there's nothing you can do, you're going to lose, and he got into that mode in games 5, 6 and 7 against the Warriors. He averaged something like 36/12/10 on 51% from the field, 42% from three, over those last 3 games - b2b 40 pt games.

That was maybe the greatest finals performance of all time from LeBron.

Oh dear. More ignorance on display. Defense is great but without sufficient offense it's insufficient. Curry providing enough offense is what has allowed the Warriors to devote more to defense in the other positions. Without the stuff Curry provides at best you get something like the grit and grind Grizzlies. Great defensive team but just didn't have the oomph to get to the next level.

The difference was LeBron James? Ha! Maybe off the court, where he was able to petition for Draymond's suspension. Maybe it was personally LeBron's greatest finals performance but to insinuate that running to the refs and then relying on Kyrie to hit the crucial shots is what makes for the greatest finals performance by anyone is a horse load of malarkey that anyone outside of LeBron worshippers should laugh at.

[RRR3]

Tough night for Steppedonshit. Curry couldn’t even beat the injury plagued Hawks :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

Tough night for Steppedonshit. Curry couldn’t even beat the injury plagued Hawks :oldlol:

You seem upset. Everything okay bro?

[Stanley Kobrick]

Tough night for Steppedonshit. Curry couldn’t even beat the injury plagued Hawks :oldlol:
bouncing back and forth between stephonit, walk on water, welfarefan main account. those lengthy essays making those lonely welfare weekends even harder :(

[Axe]

bouncing back and forth between stephonit, walk on water, welfarefan main account. those lengthy essays making those lonely welfare weekends even harder :(
:ohwell: