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Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 08:46 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/FKbjxVcR/uilv2z3tyzq61.png


I understand some people in OTC are at the level of 2nd grade spelling bee so if you would like we and others can help finger paint a better picture. the bright yellow line you are seeing is 2020 and that spike hovering above 16 (week 16) is the initial US Covid-19 invasion in March. these colored lines represent US deaths. you may notice the slight difference compared to other years. cdc.gov gives you lots of fun colored web tools to play with

but what was the underlying phenomenon that caused so many more deaths you may be wondering. good question
:wtf:


Cauce and Counts of US Deaths per CDC
(https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6)

Causes of death included in this dataset are tabulated by underlying cause of death ICD-10 codes. COVID-19 deaths by underlying cause and multiple cause of death are also included.

https://i.postimg.cc/7PmzBLRx/fgvjfghjfgh.jpg

notice: influenza added separately stays consistent throughout 2020 like other years and not bundled in covid cases
notice: lists covid-19 cases separately as underlying cause and indirectly as complications - similar to HIV

hopefully in this easy eye friendly presentation we can somewhat grasp why the entire globe panicked and made it #1 priority to eradicate Covid-19 quickly. but in no means is it a way to herd you sheeple into wearing mcwhopper muzzle masks, expectations for those few ilk is always the same.


fake data, global conspiracy. no i can't explain their crooked motives, and when i say their, i have no idea who they are.


super top secret wise men pulling strings again :(

Manny98
04-04-2021, 09:04 AM
Sweden a country that refused to go into lockdown or enforce any extreme measures didn't see a increase in total deaths in comparison to other European countries
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-mortality-rate-2020-eu-countries-b1822057.html

Japan recorded it's lowest death rate in 2020 in 11 years
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/02/23/national/coronavirus-japan-deaths-2020/

Interesting how countries that didn't participate in the NWO agenda and went on as normal as if Covid-19 never existed didn't see an increase in their death rate :biggums:

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 09:14 AM
Sweden a country that refused to go into lockdown or enforce any extreme measures didn't see a increase in total deaths in comparison to other European countries
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-mortality-rate-2020-eu-countries-b1822057.html

Japan recorded it's lowest death rate in 2020 in 11 years
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/02/23/national/coronavirus-japan-deaths-2020/

Interesting how countries that didn't participate in the NWO agenda and went on as normal as if Covid-19 never existed didn't see an increase in their death rate :biggums:


Japans smaller total may be linked to a sharp fall in seasonal influenza infections as people took strict infection prevention measures, including wearing face masks and washing their hands, amid the novel coronavirus pandemic.interesting japan article you linked, strict mask codes and covid laws

but who are these nwo round table men of the illuminati? can we at least get a name or initials of these elites corrupting the world for shits and giggles

Manny98
04-04-2021, 09:22 AM
interesting japan article you linked, strict mask codes and covid laws

but who are these nwo round table men of the illuminati? can we at least get a name or initials of these elites corrupting the world for shits and giggles

Here's one


https://youtu.be/n2fp0Jeyjvw

LAmbruh
04-04-2021, 09:27 AM
March: 0 knowns cases

9 months: masks, lockdowns, social distancing

January: 600k dead, 10m permanently injured, just in US




dat seasonal flu doe :lol

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 09:33 AM
Here's one


https://youtu.be/n2fp0Jeyjvw
you must be new to the illuminati secret society, everyone knows they use puppets as global leaders and not themselves. do not be ashamed, it takes many years to rank up and find the truth in scientology as well. but we have to start somewhere and youtube is the best place we have right now

Manny98
04-04-2021, 09:39 AM
you must be new to the illuminati secret society, everyone knows they use puppets as global leaders and not themselves. do not be ashamed, it takes many years to rank up and find the truth in scientology as well. but we have to start somewhere and youtube is the best place we have right now

Who said illuminati?

I'm talking about how the world is turning into a communist surveillance state society and they're are using this "pandemic" as a catalyst to push forward these changes

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 09:51 AM
Who said illuminati?

I'm talking about how the world is turning into a communist surveillance state society and they're are using this "pandemic" as a catalyst to push forward these changes
but the world has many different societies and cultures who are strongly fixated on preserving their bloodlines. recently some meltingpot societies even tried building walls to preserve this 150 year young patriotism

you are convinced the world will just fall in line together under Lord Saron and his all seeing eye? i don't think so, you Brits already tried and we resisted, that's why us in Merica all have guns. uncle jerry and francis in Nashville tennesse won't be redcoated again

Objectivity
04-04-2021, 10:44 AM
To play a devil’s advocate, how alarming is the excess mortality if the average age of deceased is more or less the usual life expectancy?

What about other usual arguments of covid lockdowns & restrictions on people’s mental health, likely increases in suicides, family violence etc.

And finally, with the risk of coming of as mildly autistic, how about the possible benefit of removing the excess elderly population and relieving the fiscal burden on social security, medicare...

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 11:05 AM
To play a devil’s advocate, how alarming is the excess mortality if the average age of deceased is more or less the usual life expectancy?

What about other usual arguments of covid lockdowns & restrictions on people’s mental health, likely increases in suicides, family violence etc.

And finally, with the risk of coming of as mildly autistic, how about the possible benefit of removing the excess elderly population and relieving the fiscal burden on social security, medicare...
that's not devils advocate, tobacco company has been using population control as a lobbying argument in court for decades. plus "stupid are smokers stupid should die". The elderly don't have a choice, sure 600k is kinda bad but what about 800k next year, 700k following year, year after year. We really not going to visit granny on X-mas bc little timmy has covid again?

it's never been about the survival rate, that's the elementary talking point. the root issue is getting sick, then getting many sick and now your community and workforce is at home sick. somewhere in the midst of all that people with weak immune systems morbidly suffer and many others now have permanent health issues. it's super contagious, the biggest economic and social crusher we've seen since the depression. it made 2008 recession look like a kiddy park in only 1 month. it took 1 little assistant to infect the entire white house and staff who was under the highest level of precaution. that's insane

Manny98
04-04-2021, 11:12 AM
To play a devil’s advocate, how alarming is the excess mortality if the average age of deceased is more or less the usual life expectancy?

What about other usual arguments of covid lockdowns & restrictions on people’s mental health, likely increases in suicides, family violence etc.

And finally, with the risk of coming of as mildly autistic, how about the possible benefit of removing the excess elderly population and relieving the fiscal burden on social security, medicare...

They completely ignore suicide deaths being at all time high due to these lockdowns

Also deaths from other diseases has also gone up like cancer because of treatment delays.

Manny98
04-04-2021, 11:15 AM
that's not devils advocate, tobacco company has been using population control as a lobbying argument in court for decades. plus "stupid are smokers stupid should die". The elderly don't have a choice, sure 600k is kinda bad but what about 800k next year, 700k following year, year after year. We really not going to visit granny on X-mas bc little timmy has covid again?

it's never been about the survival rate, that's the elementary talking point. the root issue is getting sick, then getting many sick and now your community and workforce is at home sick. somewhere in the midst of all that people with weak immune systems morbidly suffer and many others now have permanent health issues. it's super contagious, the biggest economic and social crusher we've seen since the depression. it made 2008 recession look like a kiddy park in only 1 month. it took 1 little assistant to infect the entire white house and staff who was under the highest level of precaution. that's insane
Have you ever thought to ask yourself whether the solution (Lockdowns, taking away people's basic freedoms ect.) is more damaging than the issue (virus with a 99.% survival rate)

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 11:22 AM
They completely ignore suicide deaths being at all time high due to these lockdowns

Also deaths from other diseases has also gone up like cancer because of treatment delays.
most definitly not. everyone knows multiple people who have committed suicide, same with cancer. it's a big deal and billions in charity pour in each year. bad strawman on your behalf because if there was a suicide vaccine or cancer vaccine, we know who's ilk would be crying about taking it :(

but lets have fun and say testicular cancer with current survival rate of 98% becomes contagious and can be transferred to even women. are we still throwing tantrum in mcdonalds because they wouldn't let you order a big mac without wearing a cup?

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 11:41 AM
Have you ever thought to ask yourself whether the solution (Lockdowns, taking away people's basic freedoms ect.) is more damaging than the issue (virus with a 99.% survival rate)have i thought if this temporary issue is more damaging than the permanent one? no that's just common sense, and biggest priorities come uno which is why every global leader put everything aside and put their top people on it

99% survival rate. that's like crazy stuff. 2000 kids in highschool and 20 die because 99%. wow, that's like a school shooting. no wonder why they rushed to get a vaccine. me math, very smaht. on top of 20 dead, 500 classmates sick, 50 on breathing machines, 25 permanent issues. 99% 99% like jayz 99% sick but still aint dead son

Manny98
04-04-2021, 12:57 PM
most definitly not. everyone knows multiple people who have committed suicide, same with cancer. it's a big deal and billions in charity pour in each year. bad strawman on your behalf because if there was a suicide vaccine or cancer vaccine, we know who's ilk would be crying about taking it :(

but lets have fun and say testicular cancer with current survival rate of 98% becomes contagious and can be transferred to even women. are we still throwing tantrum in mcdonalds because they wouldn't let you order a big mac without wearing a cup?
The thing is it doesn't matter if the survival rate is 1% or 99.9% it should be up to the individual not the government if they want to take the risk of not wearing the mask or take a vaccine

warriorfan
04-04-2021, 01:18 PM
Op feeling even more lonely than normal today. :(

bladefd
04-04-2021, 02:33 PM
The thing is it doesn't matter if the survival rate is 1% or 99.9% it should be up to the individual not the government if they want to take the risk of not wearing the mask or take a vaccine

Which government is forcing people to take a vaccine? Are you an idiot or a complete idiot? Every single post I read from you in this thread is completely idiotic. I think you are a complete idiot.

Manny98
04-04-2021, 02:37 PM
Which government is forcing people to take a vaccine? Are you an idiot or a complete idiot? Every single post I read from you in this thread is completely idiotic. I think you are a complete idiot.
Have you been living under a rock?

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 06:10 PM
The thing is it doesn't matter if the survival rate is 1% or 99.9% it should be up to the individual not the government if they want to take the risk of not wearing the mask or take a vaccine
unfortunately we live in a a society where rules and order exist. because we as humans are not perfect and wired correctly. we learn about good and bad in kindergarten, then traffic school and crosswalks in 1st grade. etcetera

in other words manny, no it shouldn't be up to the individual if they want to go 100 mph in residential area or drive drunk or rape. when automobiles were first invented commercially and they started causing accidental deaths, laws were written accordingly.

civilians in 1900's were initially upset at stop signs

as they were the 1960's with the first DUI laws

then again in the 1990's with seatbelts

regulations are implemented, order is established, any type of change and people get :mad:

bad news is we never had years of tests and analysists with covid-19 like we did with Model-T, so all countries panicked and acted vastly different. good news is Covid-19 has a vaccine so the big bad fish-o-filet Bane cosplay is temporary. bye bye red light stop, green light go. now if Elon Musk can just tweek those tesla autopilot Tesla systems we can start pre-gaming in the car again and get muh freedoms back. :D

MrFonzworth
04-04-2021, 06:22 PM
The thing is it doesn't matter if the survival rate is 1% or 99.9% it should be up to the individual not the government if they want to take the risk of not wearing the mask or take a vaccine

What a god awful take. I hope all of your loved ones know you're retarded so you don't have an influence in any way.

LAmbruh
04-04-2021, 06:25 PM
unfortunately we live in a a society where rules and order exist. because we as humans are not perfect and wired correctly. we learn about good and bad in kindergarten, then traffic school and crosswalks in 1st grade. etcetera

in other words manny, no it shouldn't be up to the individual if they want to go 100 mph in residential area or drive drunk or rape. when automobiles were first invented commercially and they started causing accidental deaths, laws were written accordingly.

civilians in 1900's were initially upset at stop signs

as they were the 1960's with the first DUI laws

then again in the 1990's with seatbelts

regulations are implemented, order is established, any type of change and people get :mad:

bad news is we never had years of tests and analysists with covid-19 like we did with Model-T, so all countries panicked and acted vastly different. good news is Covid-19 has a vaccine so the big bad fish-o-filet Bane cosplay is temporary. bye bye red light stop, green light go. now if Elon Musk can just tweek those tesla autopilot Tesla systems we can start pre-gaming in the car again and get muh freedoms back. :D Elon do need to get on that Tesla 2.21 mega patch doe and scrap the Mars exit plan

Dude charges more for each level of auto pilot upgrades, literally $2500 pay-to-sleep n drive and $5000 pay-to-drink and drive DLC's

:kobe:

bladefd
04-04-2021, 06:26 PM
Have you been living under a rock?

True. You have been a complete idiot for years, and I didn't notice.

Axe
04-04-2021, 06:36 PM
The thing is it doesn't matter if the survival rate is 1% or 99.9% it should be up to the individual not the government if they want to take the risk of not wearing the mask or take a vaccine
In other words then the government itself shouldn't be held accountable in case a lot of individuals succumb to covid, since they did not come up short of doing what's the best for their own people. So it's not their fault that many citizens refused to listen. You already claimed in the other thread that herd immunity isn't possible for the virus would still linger for a long time yet you have a hard time complying with the precautionary measures. You think your precious freedom is at stake when lives are much more important.

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 06:46 PM
Elon do need to get on that Tesla 2.21 mega patch doe and scrap the Mars exit plan

Dude charges more for each level of auto pilot upgrades, literally $2500 pay-to-sleep n drive and $5000 pay-to-drink and drive DLC's

:kobe:
it's pretty obvious elon and bezos have found the cure to immortality and want no part of this dying world anymore. they are the only ones with the funds to make an escape though and their arc can't fit 10 billion. you would chunk up a deuce too. on the bright side elon was kind enough to leave us the battery patents and cheap solar to slow our suffocation and death. they are both on a silent race to be the Mars gawd who saved an entire species at it's brink of extinction. but us earthlings will always know jeff bezos was no tippin pippen

Axe
04-04-2021, 06:46 PM
unfortunately we live in a a society where rules and order exist. because we as humans are not perfect and wired correctly. we learn about good and bad in kindergarten, then traffic school and crosswalks in 1st grade. etcetera

in other words manny, no it shouldn't be up to the individual if they want to go 100 mph in residential area or drive drunk or rape. when automobiles were first invented commercially and they started causing accidental deaths, laws were written accordingly.

civilians in 1900's were initially upset at stop signs

as they were the 1960's with the first DUI laws

then again in the 1990's with seatbelts

regulations are implemented, order is established, any type of change and people get :mad:

bad news is we never had years of tests and analysists with covid-19 like we did with Model-T, so all countries panicked and acted vastly different. good news is Covid-19 has a vaccine so the big bad fish-o-filet Bane cosplay is temporary. bye bye red light stop, green light go. now if Elon Musk can just tweek those tesla autopilot Tesla systems we can start pre-gaming in the car again and get muh freedoms back. :D
High iq post. :cheers:

Sadly, manny might be the type to wait for whatever bad things or unfortunate accidents may happen to himself first before he completely realizes the importance of these. For all we know, he'd also blame others for his stubborness... 'Bu-but my freedom tho'. :ohwell:

Manny98
04-04-2021, 07:07 PM
unfortunately we live in a a society where rules and order exist. because we as humans are not perfect and wired correctly. we learn about good and bad in kindergarten, then traffic school and crosswalks in 1st grade. etcetera

in other words manny, no it shouldn't be up to the individual if they want to go 100 mph in residential area or drive drunk or rape. when automobiles were first invented commercially and they started causing accidental deaths, laws were written accordingly.

civilians in 1900's were initially upset at stop signs

as they were the 1960's with the first DUI laws

then again in the 1990's with seatbelts

regulations are implemented, order is established, any type of change and people get :mad:

bad news is we never had years of tests and analysists with covid-19 like we did with Model-T, so all countries panicked and acted vastly different. good news is Covid-19 has a vaccine so the big bad fish-o-filet Bane cosplay is temporary. bye bye red light stop, green light go. now if Elon Musk can just tweek those tesla autopilot Tesla systems we can start pre-gaming in the car again and get muh freedoms back. :D
So not wearing a mask should be considered a crime even though there's no evidence that masks even help (no drop in number of cases after mask compliance) and we have vaccinated the majority of the adult population?

welfarefan
04-04-2021, 07:08 PM
most definitly not. everyone knows multiple people who have committed suicide, same with cancer. it's a big deal and billions in charity pour in each year. bad strawman on your behalf because if there was a suicide vaccine or cancer vaccine, we know who's ilk would be crying about taking it :(

but lets have fun and say testicular cancer with current survival rate of 98% becomes contagious and can be transferred to even women. are we still throwing tantrum in mcdonalds because they wouldn't let you order a big mac without wearing a cup?

imagine having an entire month dedicated to breast cancer awareness and only 24 hours for fathers day. yikes tittyboi society loves wearing pink yikes :lol

Manny98
04-04-2021, 07:09 PM
High iq post. :cheers:

Sadly, manny might be the type to wait for whatever bad things or unfortunate accidents may happen to himself first before he completely realizes the importance of these. For all we know, he'd also blame others for his stubborness... 'Bu-but my freedom tho'. :ohwell:
If i die of Covid that's a risk I am willing to take

Manny98
04-04-2021, 07:11 PM
In other words then the government itself shouldn't be held accountable in case a lot of individuals succumb to covid, since they did not come up short of doing what's the best for their own people. So it's not their fault that many citizens refused to listen. You already claimed in the other thread that herd immunity isn't possible for the virus would still linger for a long time yet you have a hard time complying with the precautionary measures. You think your precious freedom is at stake when lives are much more important.
If lives are so important then why not mandate the use of face masks during flu season?

Why not ban obese people from fast food restaurants?

Why not ban smoking altogether?

All of those things killl WAY more than this virus yet no one gives a shit, why is that
You call me selfish for not wanting to wear a mask but I think serving an obese person fast food is way more selfish and harmful as you're essentially helping kill them

Manny98
04-04-2021, 07:15 PM
True. You have been a complete idiot for years, and I didn't notice.
Because you don't agree with my views it makes me an idiot?

Typical close minded Lefties :facepalm

highwhey
04-04-2021, 07:16 PM
What a god awful take. I hope all of your loved ones know you're retarded so you don't have an influence in any way.

:roll:

Axe
04-04-2021, 07:16 PM
If i die of Covid that's a risk I am willing to take
Well, nobody's stopping you from that. The only reason why you get this type of attention here is because you continue to whine about the face masks and make fun of others who are willing to comply even if they choose to do so regardless if you think it works or not.

Axe
04-04-2021, 07:26 PM
If lives are so important then why not mandate the use of face masks during flu season?

Why not ban obese people from fast food restaurants?

Why not ban smoking altogether?

All of those things killl WAY more than this virus yet no one gives a shit, why is that
You call me selfish for not wanting to wear a mask but I think serving an obese person fast food is way more selfish and harmful as you're essentially helping kill them
I never implied that you were selfish; you have the freewill to do whatever you desire or want and so do we but somehow, you still keep on downplaying the fact that covid itself has logged 130+ million cases worldwide and since you wouldn't be convinced by its death rate, it still did a lot to slow the economy down to the point that whatever you were enjoying in the last three years have become not so enjoyable since you cannot do them anymore. Also not all obese people would die from eating and not all smokers would die from puffing their sticks so i don't see your logic behind these examples. :confusedshrug:

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 07:27 PM
So not wearing a mask should be considered a crime even though there's no evidence that masks even help (no drop in number of cases after mask compliance) and we have vaccinated the majority of the adult population?
that's what our boomer parents said too. 99% of the time we boozed and drive people don't get hurt? why punish for the 1%. good news is the no shirts no shoes no service tyranny is once again, temporary. and for most that's not even a minor inconvenience in their daily pile of gripes. in fact it doesn't even register on their radar.

kind of like how frequent beach bums in spain aren't the same community who complain about wearing mandatory masks to build a sand castle. they zip up that goofy wetsuit every 7am to shred the gnar and get pitted, so pitted.

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 07:34 PM
If i die of Covid that's a risk I am willing to take
no one is worried about the drunk guy Manny, you are free to drink and die at home. it's the going on the road part and taking down a soccer van of 5 innocent ones who are sober and vaccinated, or a maybe even a senior living home of 40.

we keep going back to this argument, the "my body my choice" goes out the window with the contagion factor. your prime minister of England isn't going to be cool spending another 30 days in intensive care like Boris Johnson recently, every year.

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 07:52 PM
High iq post. :cheers:

Sadly, manny might be the type to wait for whatever bad things or unfortunate accidents may happen to himself first before he completely realizes the importance of these. For all we know, he'd also blame others for his stubborness... 'Bu-but my freedom tho'. :ohwell:
it's the fearless undeveloped brain we all had. climbing those skyscraper trees, busting acid grinds down 5 flights of hand rails, sledding 80mph and catching hella air. but little by little, first a broken wrist, then busted a tailbone in 3rd grade, maybe a shoulder in highschool. the injury experiences pile up. like relationships, like deaths, you learn to be much more precautious. now that 50 foot tree at 6yo seems much much spookier to vault at 30 years old. because experiences, trial and error, growing up

when does the it's not cool to wear a seatbelt fade? around age 14 or something. covid-19 might give them those girl coodies :(

Manny98
04-04-2021, 07:57 PM
no one is worried about the drunk guy Manny, you are free to drink and die at home. it's the going on the road part and taking down a soccer van of 5 innocent ones who are sober and vaccinated, or a maybe even a senior living home of 40.

we keep going back to this argument, the "my body my choice" goes out the window with the contagion factor. your prime minister of England isn't going to be cool spending another 30 days in intensive care like Boris Johnson recently, every year.
Ok so why doesnt anyone advocate wearing masks for the flu since it kills 400,000 on average each year :confusedshrug:

72-10
04-04-2021, 08:10 PM
to the OP I didn't bother to read the whole thread, so I don't know if it was popsted elsewhere, do you have any information on how the world's other countries are faring?

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 08:46 PM
Ok so why doesnt anyone advocate wearing masks for the flu since it kills 400,000 on average each year :confusedshrug:
250k of 8 billion vs 600k of 330 million. It's quite a big leap, big brain maths n stuff. One that's been around forever vs one that just spawned. one that leaves healthy adults a mild fever vs one that commonly leads to pneumonia and permanent alveoli scarring. Those tiny airs sacs in your lungs that exchange carbon dioxide into oxygen. The most vital of all organs, even more than the brain. no air no brain, 5-10 minutes and it's vegetable time

People have a choice to get the flu vaccine my guy, it's advocated loudly each season and senior citizens pile in pharmacies because they know, through life experience how much harder it is to recover from influenza at 75yo vs. that mild hangover at 25yo. Until there's a choice for HIV vaccine then lil shawty has a right to may or may not felatio without that happy meal rubber on. unless.... Her body, Muh choice, too? minimum 5 years in prison not disclosing your HIV my guy, all McBurger does with covid-19 is tell you to bounce :ohwell:

scuzzy
04-04-2021, 09:00 PM
Until there's a choice for HIV vaccine then lil shawty has a right to may or may not felatio without that happy meal rubber on. unless.... Her body, Muh choice, too? minimum 5 years in prison not disclosing your HIV my guy, all McBurger does with covid-19 is tell you to bounce :ohwell:

Is it really rape tho if she skeet skeet?

Stanley Kobrick
04-04-2021, 09:08 PM
Is it really rape tho if she skeet skeet?
does a person like being forcibly tickled because they can't stop laughing as you grind your fingernails into their armpits? yes, and that bitch will take this covid-19 like a good tickle girl too, muh freedom

Manny98
04-04-2021, 09:30 PM
250k of 8 billion vs 600k of 330 million. It's quite a big leap, big brain maths n stuff. One that's been around forever vs one that just spawned. one that leaves healthy adults a mild fever vs one that commonly leads to pneumonia and permanent alveoli scarring. Those tiny airs sacs in your lungs that exchange carbon dioxide into oxygen. The most vital of all organs, even more than the brain. no air no brain, 5-10 minutes and it's vegetable time

People have a choice to get the flu vaccine my guy, it's advocated loudly each season and senior citizens pile in pharmacies because they know, through life experience how much harder it is to recover from influenza at 75yo vs. that mild hangover at 25yo. Until there's a choice for HIV vaccine then lil shawty has a right to may or may not felatio without that happy meal rubber on. unless.... Her body, Muh choice, too? minimum 5 years in prison not disclosing your HIV my guy, all McBurger does with covid-19 is tell you to bounce :ohwell:
You do realize that influenza can kill young healthy adults and cause long term lung damage?

You're underestimating the seasonal flu and overestimating Covid-19 when reality is the survival rates for both are more or less the same but for one we go on as usual and for the other we shut down society :facepalm

The average age of people dying of Covid is literally higher than the average life expectancy ffs :oldlol:

Manny98
04-04-2021, 09:33 PM
I never implied that you were selfish; you have the freewill to do whatever you desire or want and so do we but somehow, you still keep on downplaying the fact that covid itself has logged 130+ million cases worldwide and since you wouldn't be convinced by its death rate, it still did a lot to slow the economy down to the point that whatever you were enjoying in the last three years have become not so enjoyable since you cannot do them anymore. Also not all obese people would die from eating and not all smokers would die from puffing their sticks so i don't see your logic behind these examples. :confusedshrug:
The vaccine is hear, the majority of adults have already been vaccinated, hospitalisations have gone down to a manageable amount.

No reason to continue with these lockdowns, time to get back to normal life

Cleverness
04-04-2021, 10:30 PM
1) y axis misleading, but w/e

2) People who died with covid-19 lived longer than people who died without it. When was the last pandemic virus that had a median age of death above average life expectancy?

3) Excess deaths for car accidents, drug overdoses, and homicides skyrocketed in 2020.

4) How many lives have been saved by each of Trump's guidelines?

-Travel bans
-Social distancing
-Masks
-Mass testing & trace

5) What do you think the gov't should have done in April 2020 when field hospitals were torn down and Navy ships were sailing out due to hospitals being eerily empty?

6) Why were the hospitals emptier in 2020 than previous years?

Axe
04-04-2021, 10:39 PM
The vaccine is hear, the majority of adults have already been vaccinated, hospitalisations have gone down to a manageable amount.

No reason to continue with these lockdowns, time to get back to normal life
How long did they take to make those vaccines? It was urgent iirc.

Axe
04-04-2021, 10:50 PM
it's the fearless undeveloped brain we all had. climbing those skyscraper trees, busting acid grinds down 5 flights of hand rails, sledding 80mph and catching hella air. but little by little, first a broken wrist, then busted a tailbone in 3rd grade, maybe a shoulder in highschool. the injury experiences pile up. like relationships, like deaths, you learn to be much more precautious. now that 50 foot tree at 6yo seems much much spookier to vault at 30 years old. because experiences, trial and error, growing up

when does the it's not cool to wear a seatbelt fade? around age 14 or something. covid-19 might give them those girl coodies :(
Yes, all that to live and tell the tale. It'd be wise to be more precautious these days. I think i'm gonna start doing so by buying a 9mm pistol just in case some little brats try to throw big dirty stones on my windows. You never know because nothing's more satisfying and rewarding than being prepared for the most thrilling surprises in life.

Cleverness
04-04-2021, 10:51 PM
How long did they take to make those vaccines? It was urgent iirc.

The vaccines were made in warp speed.

It was a Trump Christmas Miracle, Experts say.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpQL6IxUwAIdqkW?format=jpg&name=small

Axe
04-04-2021, 11:02 PM
The vaccines were made in warp speed.

It was a Trump Christmas Miracle, Experts say.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpQL6IxUwAIdqkW?format=jpg&name=small
So the same old guy who called the virus 'kung flu'

Cleverness
04-04-2021, 11:09 PM
So the same old guy who called the virus 'kung flu'

he also said 'covfefe'

Axe
04-04-2021, 11:10 PM
he also said 'covfefe'
:lol:roll:

I can't forget that. It was way before covid happened.

SATAN
04-05-2021, 02:42 AM
There's people now saying this is all a world wide attempted genocide and people are dying from the vaccine left right and center. If you're repeating this kind of shit online for shits and giggles, it's not funny.

Stanley Kobrick
04-05-2021, 02:44 AM
1) y axis misleading, but w/e

the very #1 was fake news above all. :( what a shame, never crossed the mind.


fake data, global conspiracy. no i can't explain their crooked motives, and when i say their, i have no idea who they are.

tweeternest knows the safest plays, his core audience is the manny's "where do babies come from" the welfarefan "sandy hook actors". tweeterness knows the tweety/pasta doesn't fool me. because tweeterness know I know his tweetybird. oh and it's a bigger ugly bird. much much uglier than L. Ron. Hubbard.


https://i.postimg.cc/52f1FJwD/sdgfsedfgsd.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gnt1fftK)


200+ tweeto graphs for subs and likes really putting on a toll :(

https://i.postimg.cc/hPLcjv79/tfyiftgyghj.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RNZjpMdF)

your secret society treasures are safe with me tweeterness :)

SATAN
04-05-2021, 02:48 AM
wow

Stanley Kobrick
04-05-2021, 03:12 AM
wow
we can't scorn them, these are delicate brains we are harvesting. it's not like tom cruise just woke up one day and said he wanted to be a scientologist. L. Ron Hubbard saw that goofball do interviews...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0


Hubbard watching Tom and cartoon dollar $ign$ started popping out


looked at his top bounty men. "he's the guy, give me 5-10 minutes that's all i need"

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/033/487/rick.jpg


20 years later and gullible Tommy still thinking he's the smartest guy in the room. backing up those Brink Trucks into Scientology. poor katie cut off from her kids. that will be another 5 million for supervised visits Katie. from both you and Tom


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WTFzyf-ShM

scuzzy
04-05-2021, 03:55 AM
the very #1 was fake news above all. what a shame, never crossed the mind.



tweeternest knows the safest plays, his core audience is the manny's "where do babies come from" the welfarefan "sandy hook actors". tweeterness knows the tweety/pasta doesn't fool me. because tweeterness know I know his tweetybird. oh and it's a bigger ugly bird. much much uglier than L. Ron. Hubbard.

200+ tweeto graphs for subs and likes really putting on a toll :(

https://i.postimg.cc/hPLcjv79/tfyiftgyghj.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RNZjpMdF)

your secret society treasures are safe with me tweeterness :)

Even friendly funny 4chan guy ZenMaster sniffed him out quick. You can only plagiarize and requote anti-vax facebook tweets so much until people start noticing your just another shill that was easier to fool.

Twitterness had a good run though, he had a commune of cashew, tpols, welfarefan, the usual IQ spectrum who believe in Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy because they read big boy facts on the back of Fruity Loops boxes

It was suppose to be Happy Camp Refuge. Too many sik. Too many ded. The Clever Congregation now down to Manny and Welfarefan's usual lap dog pom poms dance. :(

We've all seen the finale to this hippie classic


https://i.postimg.cc/d3cFJZwZ/members-Bodies-Jim-Jones-Peoples-Temple-vat.jpg
http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/06-01a-koolaid.jpg

save yourself Manny!

warriorfan
04-05-2021, 04:07 AM
Even friendly funny 4chan guy ZenMaster sniffed him out quick. You can only plagiarize and requote anti-vax facebook tweets so much until people start noticing your just another shill that was easier to fool.

Twitterness had a good run though, he had a commune of cashew, tpols, welfarefan, the usual IQ spectrum who believe in Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy because they read big boy facts on the back of Fruity Loops boxes

It was suppose to be Happy Camp Refuge. Too many sik. Too many ded. The Clever Congregation now down to Manny and Welfarefan's usual lap dog pom poms dance. :(

We've all seen the finale to this hippie classic


https://i.postimg.cc/d3cFJZwZ/members-Bodies-Jim-Jones-Peoples-Temple-vat.jpg
http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/06-01a-koolaid.jpg

save yourself Manny!

99.9% survival rate

I don’t know why you and Stanley are so scared about this. It’s not like you guys go outside anyways.

Scuzz and Stanley, The lonely bros.

scuzzy
04-05-2021, 04:31 AM
You see, I can tug on good boi's chain and he comes sprinting in wagging that tail

55 posts deep, 8am, 5am, 2am. The minute I *snap fingers* he jumps

That's a good well trained boy

Come here boy

Wanna play?




Now fetch to Jeff


https://i.postimg.cc/LsC9zsRn/dfhdhdfjh.png


Shoot i threw that one pretty far, he might not come back :(

https://i.postimg.cc/nLCbfGbh/Capture11.png (https://postimages.org/)




Don't be scared. Wheel off on your huffy and bring it back to papi


https://i.postimg.cc/xC54kkS4/gmgvjhmnghjmgf-1.png

I want this post gonzo by 7am, before 3am for extra credit

Good bois get good treats

Stanley Kobrick
04-05-2021, 05:10 AM
You see, I can tug on good boi's chain and he comes sprinting in wagging that tail

55 posts deep, 8am, 5am, 2am. The minute I *snap fingers* he jumps

That's a good well trained boy

Come here boy

Wanna play?




Now fetch to Jeff


https://i.postimg.cc/LsC9zsRn/dfhdhdfjh.png


Shoot i threw that one pretty far, he might not come back :(

https://i.postimg.cc/nLCbfGbh/Capture11.png (https://postimages.org/)




Don't be scared. Wheel off on your huffy and bring it back to papi


https://i.postimg.cc/xC54kkS4/gmgvjhmnghjmgf-1.png

I want this post gonzo by 7am, before 3am for extra credit

Good bois get good treats

Oh wow, the Welfarefan really did come jumping in this thread like a cheerleader for her quarterback. ppl charge good money for that delivery service, all welfare needs is someone is a permanent lap to sit on. no more part time mr jabbar, stalker or egokiller. he's looking to be permanently adopted, the 2x Ticket Stub Chub will rollie emoji all your funnies he swears he just needs a home and warm lap. :(

scuzzy
04-05-2021, 05:26 AM
Oh wow, the Welfarefan really did come jumping in this thread like a cheerleader for her quarterback. ppl charge good money for that delivery service, all welfare needs is someone is a permanent lap to sit on. no more part time mr jabbar, stalker or egokiller. he's looking to be permanently adopted, the 2x Ticket Stub Chub will rollie emoji all your funnies he swears he just needs a home and warm lap. :(
I just don't know what it is man

He'll come running when I whistle but every time I get that one ball he never comes back. Maybe something about that ball internally spooks him like PTSD or something. He's an old that barks at kids for throwing rocks and bites on tires of the neighbors truck.

Getting worse with age too, really unusual.

Manny98
04-05-2021, 05:27 AM
How long did they take to make those vaccines? It was urgent iirc.

Vaccines usually take years to properly develope and test

This one took months, and there's multiple reports all over the internet of people suffering terrible side effects from taking the vaccines

What's the point of taking a vaccine that's not 100% safe for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate :oldlol:

Stanley Kobrick
04-05-2021, 05:45 AM
Vaccines usually take years to properly develope and test

This one took months, and there's multiple reports all over the internet of people suffering terrible side effects from taking the vaccines

What's the point of taking a vaccine that's not 100% safe for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate :oldlol:
us sheeple are not at that level of youtube suggestions yet, the nwo algorithm. we just don't know keemoe therapy makes you feel super worse than the cancers itself. it's better off with essential oils especially since autism survivability is like 100% now people are just soo stupid. funny how nobody acknowledges acne deaths anymore but make a big fuss about suicide when its a fact golden gate jumpers survivability of 90% of 100% so 9 of every 10 don't die, literally

Axe
04-05-2021, 05:48 AM
Vaccines usually take years to properly develope and test

This one took months, and there's multiple reports all over the internet of people suffering terrible side effects from taking the vaccines

What's the point of taking a vaccine that's not 100% safe for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate :oldlol:
Duh

I asked you that question earlier because you said there should be no more lockdowns since a lot of the population have been vaccinated already and then now, you answer with this. :hammerhead:

welfarefan
04-05-2021, 05:59 AM
imagine legit making my landlord and friend use a condom on me when Magic Johnson is hella alive and legit, yikes let legit that sink in :lol

Manny98
04-05-2021, 05:59 AM
Duh

I asked you that question earlier because you said there should be no more lockdowns since a lot of the population have been vaccinated already and then now, you answer with this. :hammerhead:
Well their shouldn't be any lockdowns

The vunarable have been vaccinated time to open up and learn to live with this like the flu

welfarefan
04-05-2021, 06:09 AM
Well their shouldn't be any lockdowns

The vunarable have been vaccinated time to open up and learn to live with this like the flu

funny how they legit just forgot to send us our Pedo Joe stimulus bucks once the vunariable were all hella vaccinated, seems legit :oldlol:

warriorfan
04-05-2021, 10:15 AM
Scuzzy and highwhey.

The incel bros. :lol

hiphopanonymous
04-05-2021, 10:18 AM
In b4 "how do we know it wasnt the oppressive quarantining lifestyle adjustment that killed everyone"


And the inevitable deflections like 'forget about that what we need to worry about is hunter biden / sleepy joe / border walls' :facepalm :oldlol:

warriorfan
04-05-2021, 10:49 AM
In b4 "how do we know it wasnt the oppressive quarantining lifestyle adjustment that killed everyone"


And the inevitable deflections like 'forget about that what we need to worry about is hunter biden / sleepy joe / border walls' :facepalm :oldlol:

99.9%

Bye.

ZenMaster
04-05-2021, 10:53 AM
Even friendly funny 4chan guy ZenMaster sniffed him out quick. You can only plagiarize and requote anti-vax facebook tweets so much until people start noticing your just another shill that was easier to fool.

Twitterness had a good run though, he had a commune of cashew, tpols, welfarefan, the usual IQ spectrum who believe in Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy because they read big boy facts on the back of Fruity Loops boxes

It was suppose to be Happy Camp Refuge. Too many sik. Too many ded. The Clever Congregation now down to Manny and Welfarefan's usual lap dog pom poms dance. :(

We've all seen the finale to this hippie classic


https://i.postimg.cc/d3cFJZwZ/members-Bodies-Jim-Jones-Peoples-Temple-vat.jpg
http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/06-01a-koolaid.jpg

save yourself Manny!

Why are you referencing me here? I'm confident you spend more time worrying about 4chan than me btw.

Manny98
04-05-2021, 10:56 AM
In b4 "how do we know it wasnt the oppressive quarantining lifestyle adjustment that killed everyone"


And the inevitable deflections like 'forget about that what we need to worry about is hunter biden / sleepy joe / border walls' :facepalm :oldlol:
Well we do know that the lockdown caused a notable spike in the rate of suicides in 2020

We also know that there was large excess in cancer deaths in 2020 due to delayed treatments

Again im not denying that Covid-19 exists but let's not be ignorant and act like the sole reason for the massive spike in death rate in the US is because of this virus

~primetime~
04-05-2021, 10:56 AM
drinking game...take a shot every time manny or warrior type 99.9%...the covid rate of death for healthy young people

~primetime~
04-05-2021, 10:59 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/FKbjxVcR/uilv2z3tyzq61.png


^^^ the 'spikes' in death follow the covid infection spikes to a tee:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

were there "waves" of suicides that went in sink with covid spikes?...no, also although suicides are up it isn't anywhere near these numbers

Manny98
04-05-2021, 11:01 AM
drinking game...take a shot every time manny or warrior type 99.9%...the covid rate of death for healthy young people
99.5% from ages 50-69
99.99% for under 50s

https://i.postimg.cc/VkYHg5Qw/COVID-19-survival-rates.jpg

~primetime~
04-05-2021, 11:10 AM
^^^ right so .5% of everyone over age 50 is a actually a shit ton of humans

age 70+ is over 5%...and that is why healthy people are getting vaccinated...for their 70 year old mom/dad...NOT for themselves who are 99.9%


anyway...not sure why TF I am even posting in here...same small group repeating the same things

Manny98
04-05-2021, 11:15 AM
^^^ right so .5% of everyone over age 50 is a actually a shit ton of humans

age 70+ is over 5%...and that is why healthy people are getting vaccinated...for their 70 year old mom/dad...NOT for themselves who are 99.9%


anyway...not sure why TF I am even posting in here...same small group repeating the same things
So why do young healthy people have to continue to suffer for a virus that is only dangerous to old people even after the vaccine has been administered?

ZenMaster
04-05-2021, 11:23 AM
^^^ the 'spikes' in death follow the covid infection spikes to a tee:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

were there "waves" of suicides that went in sink with covid spikes?...no, also although suicides are up it isn't anywhere near these numbers

So the average age of people would have risen significantly in 2020 if it wasn't for covid-19? Or am I experiencing a logical fallacy?

~primetime~
04-05-2021, 11:35 AM
So the average age of people would have risen significantly in 2020 if it wasn't for covid-19? Or am I experiencing a logical fallacy?

average age of the entire population?

pop is 330 mill...losing half mill to covid probably wouldn't put much of a dent in that average...at least doesn't seem like it would to me anyway but IDK

ZenMaster
04-05-2021, 11:48 AM
average age of the entire population?

pop is 330 mill...losing half mill to covid probably wouldn't put much of a dent in that average...at least doesn't seem like it would to me anyway but IDK

Then my brain isn't putting it together properly.

If there are so many more deaths throughout 2020, but those deaths are of people who were the average age of death from what we know in 2019, how does that add up without there being a big population increase?

I find it interesting btw how you talk about people mentioning the 99.9% overall survival rate.
For some people the 99.9% spells relief because when covid 19 first came about and people were saying everything should be locked down, it was based on a speculative death rate number much much higher than .1%.
For others, the 99.9% number seems to bring anger or frustration.

~primetime~
04-05-2021, 11:59 AM
I honestly don't know what you're asking with the average age of death/pop increase...but the median age 2019 was 38.4...median age for 2020 was 38.2

if anything that seems like it falls in line with more old people dying :confusedshrug:

hiphopanonymous
04-05-2021, 12:22 PM
So the average age of people would have risen significantly in 2020 if it wasn't for covid-19? Or am I experiencing a logical fallacy?
Logical fallacy? You're not using that phrase correctly in this context.

What's your definition of significant? Increased death rates easy to see like that don't merit a badge of significance to you?

1 in 10 to 1 in 20 of people over the age of 70 that catches covid - dies of covid (waaaaay higher death rate than the flu - and this is more contagious and easy to spread too). This means if you have two parents age 70+ you have a 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 chance of losing ONE of your parents if they both caught covid. Kinda like handing someone a revolver and playing Russian Roulette. Want to play that game with someones 70+ year old parents? You clearly still think what's the big deal. Maybe since it doesn't affect younger folks like that it simply makes them sick like a flu.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/9aa62620-10ff-4714-92d2-0943edc391f1/attachment.aspx

Who wouldn't want a loved one 70 years old to be alive for literally another one let alone probable 5-15 years of birthdays / weddings / holidays etc. Most of my family for example, the elders are surviving well into their 80's and they aren't unable to participate in life either. I'd have lost some needlessly for sure had they all caught Covid and I for one appreciate every single one of them being around for as many years as humanly possible. Being 72 and dying of Covid is still an early grave... being 80 and dying of Covid for all of my 80+ relatives would have been an early grave. Some either ignorantly or callously believed they were so old anyways would have dropped dead that day or that year anyways from something else if it wasn't Covid. That background death rate proves otherwise. It proves more people are dying this year than other years - period. And those curves match Covid to a T.

ZenMaster
04-05-2021, 12:50 PM
Logical fallacy? You're not using that phrase correctly in this context.

What's your definition of significant? Increased death rates easy to see like that don't merit a badge of significance to you?

1 in 10 to 1 in 20 of people over the age of 70 that catches covid - dies of covid (waaaaay higher death rate than the flu - and this is more contagious and easy to spread too). This means if you have two parents age 70+ you have a 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 chance of losing ONE of your parents if they both caught covid. Kinda like handing someone a revolver and playing Russian Roulette. Want to play that game with someones 70+ year old parents? You clearly still think what's the big deal. Maybe since it doesn't affect younger folks like that it simply makes them sick like a flu.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/9aa62620-10ff-4714-92d2-0943edc391f1/attachment.aspx

Who wouldn't want a loved one 70 years old to be alive for literally another one let alone probable 5-15 years of birthdays / weddings / holidays etc. Most of my family for example, the elders are surviving well into their 80's and they aren't unable to participate in life either. I'd have lost some needlessly for sure had they all caught Covid and I for one appreciate every single one of them being around for as many years as humanly possible. Being 72 and dying of Covid is still an early grave... being 80 and dying of Covid for all of my 80+ relatives would have been an early grave. Some either ignorantly or callously believed they were so old anyways would have dropped dead that day or that year anyways from something else if it wasn't Covid. That background death rate proves otherwise. It proves more people are dying this year than other years - period. And those curves match Covid to a T.

My logical fallacy is that I can't figure out how more people can die in one year vs the next at the same average age, without there being a change in the proportions of elderly within the public or the overall age of death going down.

FultzNationRISE
04-05-2021, 04:31 PM
Logical fallacy? You're not using that phrase correctly in this context.

What's your definition of significant? Increased death rates easy to see like that don't merit a badge of significance to you?

1 in 10 to 1 in 20 of people over the age of 70 that catches covid - dies of covid (waaaaay higher death rate than the flu - and this is more contagious and easy to spread too). This means if you have two parents age 70+ you have a 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 chance of losing ONE of your parents if they both caught covid. Kinda like handing someone a revolver and playing Russian Roulette. Want to play that game with someones 70+ year old parents? You clearly still think what's the big deal. Maybe since it doesn't affect younger folks like that it simply makes them sick like a flu.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/9aa62620-10ff-4714-92d2-0943edc391f1/attachment.aspx

Who wouldn't want a loved one 70 years old to be alive for literally another one let alone probable 5-15 years of birthdays / weddings / holidays etc. Most of my family for example, the elders are surviving well into their 80's and they aren't unable to participate in life either. I'd have lost some needlessly for sure had they all caught Covid and I for one appreciate every single one of them being around for as many years as humanly possible. Being 72 and dying of Covid is still an early grave... being 80 and dying of Covid for all of my 80+ relatives would have been an early grave. Some either ignorantly or callously believed they were so old anyways would have dropped dead that day or that year anyways from something else if it wasn't Covid. That background death rate proves otherwise. It proves more people are dying this year than other years - period. And those curves match Covid to a T.

This is clearly a statistical strawman.

The majority of people who die are not tested for the presence of the flu virus. If you took all the people who died annually and tested them all for the “presence” of flu (even if the primary factor was something different) the number would look much greater. The flu is everywhere every year. People pick it up and give it to others all the time every year, but it doesnt make everyone sick who contracts it. Without media hysteria, we simply dont test for it often and dont think about it. We chalk it up to life. And it too kills a lot more old people than young people, because duhhh, old people die more.

Covid is no different except that anyone who dies of anything is now tested, and no distinction is made between primary factor, contributing factor, or even non factor. If you die while covid positive, its a covid death. Moreover, in places where testing wasnt/isnt available, hospitals were being paid by the government to ASSUME it was a covid death :lol This is obviously to manipulate the numbers to justify these global overhauls, which are the entire basis of this pandemic.

Youre a pretentious guy and you “followed the science” (pushed by the media, to ensare the masses of generic, pretentious wannabes) to illogival conclusions, assumptions, and fear. You thought all along you were being smarter and more “sciency” than the simple rednecks, and it made you feel important and relevant and elite. You were on the smart side bc you agreed with the people the TV told you were smart. You didnt think it thru yourself, you sided with the group you expected to be right about these things. You and primetime and millertime, and all the guys barely hangin on to that upper middle class status thru the fortune of your occupation, but not really all that secure in that place intellectually, and just hoping to conform to the liberal medias dictates and keep it movin.

But, as it turns out, you were the fools and pawns all along.

And now youre just too embarrassed to admit it.

That’s all it is my guy.

You dont have to worry. We understand. :cheers:

hiphopanonymous
04-05-2021, 05:28 PM
This is clearly a statistical strawman.

The majority of people who die are not tested for the presence of the flu virus. If you took all the people who died annually and tested them all for the “presence” of flu (even if the primary factor was something different) the number would look much greater. The flu is everywhere every year. People pick it up and give it to others all the time every year, but it doesnt make everyone sick who contracts it. Without media hysteria, we simply dont test for it often and dont think about it. We chalk it up to life. And it too kills a lot more old people than young people, because duhhh, old people die more.

Covid is no different except that anyone who dies of anything is now tested, and no distinction is made between primary factor, contributing factor, or even non factor. If you die while covid positive, its a covid death. Moreover, in places where testing wasnt/isnt available, hospitals were being paid by the government to ASSUME it was a covid death :lol This is obviously to manipulate the numbers to justify these global overhauls, which are the entire basis of this pandemic.

Youre a pretentious guy and you “followed the science” (pushed by the media, to ensare the masses of generic, pretentious wannabes) to illogival conclusions, assumptions, and fear. You thought all along you were being smarter and more “sciency” than the simple rednecks, and it made you feel important and relevant and elite. You were on the smart side bc you agreed with the people the TV told you were smart. You didnt think it thru yourself, you sided with the group you expected to be right about these things. You and primetime and millertime, and all the guys barely hangin on to that upper middle class status thru the fortune of your occupation, but not really all that secure in that place intellectually, and just hoping to conform to the liberal medias dictates and keep it movin.

But, as it turns out, you were the fools and pawns all along.

And now youre just too embarrassed to admit it.

That’s all it is my guy.

You dont have to worry. We understand. :cheers:
The "everyone's in on it" vibe makes more sense to you than - it was just an accidental disease outbreak particularly dangerous to elderly so everyone wear masks etc until we find a way to get it under control.

I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes but damn. Paranoid is an understatement.

Stanley Kobrick
04-05-2021, 06:51 PM
Logical fallacy? You're not using that phrase correctly in this context.

What's your definition of significant? Increased death rates easy to see like that don't merit a badge of significance to you?

1 in 10 to 1 in 20 of people over the age of 70 that catches covid - dies of covid (waaaaay higher death rate than the flu - and this is more contagious and easy to spread too). This means if you have two parents age 70+ you have a 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 chance of losing ONE of your parents if they both caught covid. Kinda like handing someone a revolver and playing Russian Roulette. Want to play that game with someones 70+ year old parents? You clearly still think what's the big deal. Maybe since it doesn't affect younger folks like that it simply makes them sick like a flu.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/9aa62620-10ff-4714-92d2-0943edc391f1/attachment.aspx

Who wouldn't want a loved one 70 years old to be alive for literally another one let alone probable 5-15 years of birthdays / weddings / holidays etc. Most of my family for example, the elders are surviving well into their 80's and they aren't unable to participate in life either. I'd have lost some needlessly for sure had they all caught Covid and I for one appreciate every single one of them being around for as many years as humanly possible. Being 72 and dying of Covid is still an early grave... being 80 and dying of Covid for all of my 80+ relatives would have been an early grave. Some either ignorantly or callously believed they were so old anyways would have dropped dead that day or that year anyways from something else if it wasn't Covid. That background death rate proves otherwise. It proves more people are dying this year than other years - period. And those curves match Covid to a T.
high iq post. good breakdown. sometimes just a little picture of bill nye or mr. rogers helps the special few as well

Cleverness
04-05-2021, 11:04 PM
Hot damn, scuzzy/SATAN/Stanley/LAMB/etc (same PAB) went full retard :lol

anyways


In b4 "how do we know it wasnt the oppressive quarantining lifestyle adjustment that killed everyone"


And the inevitable deflections like 'forget about that what we need to worry about is hunter biden / sleepy joe / border walls' :facepalm :oldlol:

1) Still waiting for your response here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14275692&viewfull=1#post14275692
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14273380&viewfull=1#post14273380

2) People who died with covid-19 lived longer than people who died without it. When was the last pandemic virus that had a median age of death above average life expectancy?

3) Excess deaths for car accidents, drug overdoses, and homicides skyrocketed in 2020. I think it's safe to say that media & gov't hysteria has caused some excess death.

4) How many lives have been saved by each of Trump's guidelines?

-Travel bans
-Social distancing
-Masks
-Mass testing & trace

5) What do you think the gov't should have done in April 2020 when field hospitals were torn down and Navy ships were sailing out due to hospitals being eerily empty?

6) Why were the hospitals emptier in 2020 than previous years? Also note that ER visits plunged 15% in 2020 compared to 2019.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?490193-No-Jobs-For-Doctors-Hospitals-Have-Been-Too-Empty

welfarefan
06-11-2021, 12:00 PM
in b4 "how do we know it wasnt the oppressive quarantining lifestyle adjustment that killed everyone"


and the inevitable deflections like 'forget about that what we need to worry about is hunter biden / sleepy joe / border walls' :facepalm :oldlol:

#ORANGE.pdf


logical fallacy? You're not using that phrase correctly in this context.

What's your definition of significant? Increased death rates easy to see like that don't merit a badge of significance to you?

1 in 10 to 1 in 20 of people over the age of 70 that catches covid - dies of covid (waaaaay higher death rate than the flu - and this is more contagious and easy to spread too). This means if you have two parents age 70+ you have a 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 chance of losing one of your parents if they both caught covid. Kinda like handing someone a revolver and playing russian roulette. Want to play that game with someones 70+ year old parents? You clearly still think what's the big deal. Maybe since it doesn't affect younger folks like that it simply makes them sick like a flu.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/9aa62620-10ff-4714-92d2-0943edc391f1/attachment.aspx

who wouldn't want a loved one 70 years old to be alive for literally another one let alone probable 5-15 years of birthdays / weddings / holidays etc. Most of my family for example, the elders are surviving well into their 80's and they aren't unable to participate in life either. I'd have lost some needlessly for sure had they all caught covid and i for one appreciate every single one of them being around for as many years as humanly possible. Being 72 and dying of covid is still an early grave... Being 80 and dying of covid for all of my 80+ relatives would have been an early grave. Some either ignorantly or callously believed they were so old anyways would have dropped dead that day or that year anyways from something else if it wasn't covid. That background death rate proves otherwise. It proves more people are dying this year than other years - period. And those curves match covid to a t.

#MAN.gif


the "everyone's in on it" vibe makes more sense to you than - it was just an accidental disease outbreak particularly dangerous to elderly so everyone wear masks etc until we find a way to get it under control.

I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes but damn. Paranoid is an understatement.

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--Extravagant--

n00bie
06-12-2021, 06:50 PM
The "everyone's in on it" vibe makes more sense to you than - it was just an accidental disease outbreak particularly dangerous to elderly so everyone wear masks etc until we find a way to get it under control.

I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes but damn. Paranoid is an understatement.

Seriously these "woke" people are paranoid as hell. Locked in their basements, staring at computer screens 24/7 because they refused to wear a mask in a store.

Apparently every single doctor and nurse are slaves to Bill Gates. Literally millions of healthcare people are on Bill Gates' payroll right?

n00bie
06-12-2021, 06:51 PM
#ORANGE.pdf



#MAN.gif



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--Extravagant--

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ZenMaster
06-12-2021, 07:08 PM
Seriously these "woke" people are paranoid as hell. Locked in their basements, staring at computer screens 24/7 because they refused to wear a mask in a store.

Apparently every single doctor and nurse are slaves to Bill Gates. Literally millions of healthcare people are on Bill Gates' payroll right?

Where I am we still have to wear masks when walking around, but not when sitting inside a bar or restaurant.

The bolded is an interestingly loaded statement though, you don't think any doctors spoke out about this has been handled before getting booted off twitter, or the interviews given were removed and links to it made impossible to share through all major social media platforms?
Literally links to stories, where if you send them to someone through a PM they simply don't show up. You don't get a warning about your link not being sent either, it's just never delivered.

How about the guy in charge of the Swedish equivalent to the CDC? Did he not disagree with how the world responded to covid?
Was the same in Denmark, the guy there said he could not recommend shutting down society when they did, but was pressured into and to be part of the press conference where it was announced as well - all shown in leaked emails.

And these masks btw, if they're so important to saving human lives, why aren't they free?

n00bie
06-12-2021, 08:27 PM
Where I am we still have to wear masks when walking around, but not when sitting inside a bar or restaurant.

The bolded is an interestingly loaded statement though, you don't think any doctors spoke out about this has been handled before getting booted off twitter, or the interviews given were removed and links to it made impossible to share through all major social media platforms?
Literally links to stories, where if you send them to someone through a PM they simply don't show up. You don't get a warning about your link not being sent either, it's just never delivered.

How about the guy in charge of the Swedish equivalent to the CDC? Did he not disagree with how the world responded to covid?
Was the same in Denmark, the guy there said he could not recommend shutting down society when they did, but was pressured into and to be part of the press conference where it was announced as well - all shown in leaked emails.

And these masks btw, if they're so important to saving human lives, why aren't they free?

Bro nothing is free in this world. If govts hand it to you for free you are paying for it through taxes.

Come on man. You're not telling me a group of people created a covid hoax to profit on mask sales are you?

A handful of doctors speaking out vs. Millions that dont? Doesnt make sense to me.

Cleverness
06-12-2021, 09:11 PM
Where I am we still have to wear masks when walking around, but not when sitting inside a bar or restaurant.

The bolded is an interestingly loaded statement though, you don't think any doctors spoke out about this has been handled before getting booted off twitter, or the interviews given were removed and links to it made impossible to share through all major social media platforms?
Literally links to stories, where if you send them to someone through a PM they simply don't show up. You don't get a warning about your link not being sent either, it's just never delivered.

How about the guy in charge of the Swedish equivalent to the CDC? Did he not disagree with how the world responded to covid?
Was the same in Denmark, the guy there said he could not recommend shutting down society when they did, but was pressured into and to be part of the press conference where it was announced as well - all shown in leaked emails.

And these masks btw, if they're so important to saving human lives, why aren't they free?

The burden of proof is on the people pushing for restricting others. We're still waiting for them to make their case.

As shown from my post above (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?491975-Vast-US-death-rate-difference-from-Covid-19-vs-the-last-7-years&p=14286521&viewfull=1#post14286521), and many others, they struggle to make their case - they dodge and duck and can't even answer basic questions like what the goal is. I've yet to see any of them write up a cost-benefit analysis of the policies they are pushing.

There was one guy, MaxFly, who believed in crazy conspiracies like the Russian Collusion hoax, but at least he was smart enough to see these restrictions as "ridiculous" before signing off ISH a year ago.

Cleverness
06-12-2021, 09:13 PM
And these masks btw, if they're so important to saving human lives, why aren't they free?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493224-Study-129-000-000-000-face-masks-used-every-month


Recent studies estimate that we use an astounding 129 billion face masks globally every month -- that is 3 million a minute. Most of them are disposable face masks made from plastic microfibers.

Billions of masks used in the US so far...

~100-150 million Covid-19 infections in the US. (~140 million per latest CDC model)

Unfortunately there are no known benefits in terms of reducing Covid-19 infections in the US thus far.

129,000,000,000 is quite a lot of masks used every month.

Cleverness
06-12-2021, 09:16 PM
@ZenMaster

Great data here:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1399868103140556801.html


And for masks specifically, here:

Counties that reported high mask use show no statistical difference from counties that reported low mask use.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1375029023919722497.html

Manny98
06-12-2021, 09:56 PM
Yall still talking about this virus?

We have already established that this virus has a 99.99999999% survival rate if you are not a old age pensioner and they have all been vaccinated

I have not worn a mask since April, i don't even think about Covid anymore

Stanley Kobrick
06-13-2021, 03:31 AM
New Daily Covid-19 cases in the US

7 January: 294,569

11 June: 12,061


Incredible. since January the pandemic relief has seen unprecedented amount of success to the contrary that man had predicted

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendsdeaths
https://i.postimg.cc/nhgT2bqs/jan.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nXKvVWRZ)


https://i.postimg.cc/sgvw5DGd/jun.jpg (https://postimg.cc/hXRLBn0p)


https://i.postimg.cc/yNRjrQTL/lll.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5Hx8XmTz)


https://i.postimg.cc/m2dmcFDy/lolk.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nCD4grqX)

Blessings and Thanks

1. the men and women globally who worked rigorously in our universities and research labs to manufacture and roll out the vaccine.
2. our medical professionals, to hospice care, to pharm techs whom somehow vaccinated 350 million citizens all while juggling newly infected patients in ICU.
3. our current white house staff who overcame such national difficulty transitioning into power and the precise execution it took to not let it get anymore out of hand like it was Mar-Dec 2020.
4. the effectiveness of Anthony Fauci pandemic blueprint and national safety which saved millions will be studied and valued for years. philanthropists Bill Gates $1.75 billion charitable contribution and innovator of Gavi co-leading COVAX the distribution of 2 billion vaccines. both to be nominated for Nobel Awards as they both rightfully should (and will)
NM: rep Alexandria Ocasio Cortez $1 million, princess Megan Markle $5 million, 16yo Greta Thunberg $100€ donation :cheers:

bladefd
06-13-2021, 01:53 PM
New Daily Covid-19 cases in the US

7 January: 294,569

11 June: 12,061


Incredible. since January the pandemic relief has seen unprecedented amount of success to the contrary that man had predicted

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendsdeaths
https://i.postimg.cc/nhgT2bqs/jan.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nXKvVWRZ)


https://i.postimg.cc/sgvw5DGd/jun.jpg (https://postimg.cc/hXRLBn0p)


https://i.postimg.cc/yNRjrQTL/lll.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5Hx8XmTz)


https://i.postimg.cc/m2dmcFDy/lolk.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nCD4grqX)

Blessings and Thanks

1. the men and women globally who worked rigorously in our universities and research labs to manufacture and roll out the vaccine.
2. our medical professionals, to hospice care, to pharm techs whom somehow vaccinated 350 million citizens all while juggling newly infected patients in ICU.
3. our current white house staff who overcame such national difficulty transitioning into power and the precise execution it took to not let it get anymore out of hand like it was Mar-Dec 2020.
4. the effectiveness of Anthony Fauci pandemic blueprint and national safety which saved millions will be studied and valued for years. philanthropists Bill Gates $1.75 billion charitable contribution and innovator of Gavi co-leading COVAX the distribution of 2 billion vaccines. both to be nominated for Nobel Awards as they both rightfully should (and will)
NM: rep Alexandria Ocasio Cortez $1 million, princess Megan Markle $5 million, 16yo Greta Thunberg $100€ donation :cheers:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVax94mnPys