2017 Golden State Warriors vs. 1996 Chicago Bulls

[Lebron23]

Who wins in a best of 7 series??

https://www.whatifsports.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gameid=26378130&teamfee=-1&fbclid=IwAR07UVDqiyybUIYNjJbGhgKXmhxwx1MLttFKu2XXO kQHdYEUgkngzVHnowA Game 1 Warriors beat the Bulls 103-88 Player of the Game Kevin Durant (Golden State)
22 pts, 11 reb, 7 ast, 1 stl, 2

https://www.whatifsports.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gameid=26378135&teamfee=-1&fbclid=IwAR3bJ7N8RjkOrekU1cvA5_pez3J6u9uww_VWLae6O qeZ7cSDPHwtR0RbxI4

Game 2 Warriors beat the Bullls 105-78 Player of the Game
Stephen Curry (Golden State)
23 pts, 8 reb, 5 ast, 1 blk


https://www.whatifsports.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gameid=26378185&teamfee=-1

https://www.whatifsports.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gameid=26378146&teamfee=-1&fbclid=IwAR0vQNJSQUq9Yka0Y20QudLSpRdRAj6LX4l8DHXPZ otSVS0ER3ILqDrsUxk
Warriors beat the Bulls 114-99
Player of the Game
Kevin Durant (Golden State)
20 pts, 8 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl, 3 blk

Bulls beat the Warriors 107-97 Player of the Game
Scottie Pippen (Chicago)
28 pts, 6 reb, 7 ast

https://www.whatifsports.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gameid=26378151&teamfee=-1&fbclid=IwAR3LgFD5xe1yiCcxSMZW9uEyQdQ5zGp-XND8_7phcIXM9FBztb-yLb8xbFk

Golden State beat Bulls 94-88 Player of the Game Kevin Durant (Golden State)
23 pts, 10 reb, 3 ast, 2 blk

https://www.whatifsports.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gameid=26378154&teamfee=-1&fbclid=IwAR0xh4X9QS5tU-GW4R1PgJIwLSjW43PkWj6YPycPSlWqkamElQrVTmLfQ8Q

Golden State Warriors defeated the Bulls Player of the Game
Kevin Durant (Golden State)
30 pts, 9 reb, 7 ast, 1 stl

Warriors defeated the Bulls 4-1. Finals MVP is Kevin Durant

[coastalmarker99]

The 2017 Warriors are basketball perfection they would have killed the Bulls with their shooting even under 1990's rules as with a shorted three-point line their shooting would have been even more deadly.






To beat Durant's Warriors


You need an utterly Dominant big man such as Wilt, Shaq and Kareem



The only teams that I can see beating the 2017 Warriors in a series



are the 1967 76ers


The 1986 Celtics


And the 2001 Lakers

[Lebron23]

The 2017 Warriors are basketball perfection they would have killed the Bulls with their shooting even under 1990's rules as with a shorted three-point line their shooting would have been even more deadly.






To beat Durant's Warriors


You need an utterly Dominant big man such as Wilt, Shaq and Kareem



The only teams that I can see beating the 2017 Warriors in a series



are the 1967 76ers


The 1986 Celtics


And the 2001 Lakers

Great Posts..

[Reggie43]

Thinking those Warriors would have killed the Bulls is such a lazy take especially under 90s rules. Those Bulls won 72 games for a reason.

[coastalmarker99]

Thinking those Warriors would have killed the Bulls is such a lazy take especially under 90s rules. Those Bulls won 72 games for a reason.

They won 72 games because of expansion they don't win 72 games if they had played in the golden era of the 1980s



As I have repeatedly pointed out before in the past that the league was severely diluted in the 1990s. It was actually 6 teams added in just 7 years (2 in 1988, 2 in 1989, and 2 in 1995), which just happened to perfectly coincide with MJ's assent.


That's a major reason why offensive play cratered in that era to the point the league had to shorten the three-point line in 1995 just to stimulate offence.

It's a major reason why even the top teams usually had 1-2 starters who were straight trash (washed Duckworth on the Blazers, West/Dumas on the Suns, Brickowski on the Sonics, Keefe/Ostertag on the Jazz), which made a Bulls team that could go strong 7-deep so dominant.

[Xiao Yao You]

They won 72 games because of expansion they don't win 72 games if they had played in the golden era of the 1980s



As I have repeatedly pointed out before in the past that the league was severely diluted in the 1990s. It was actually 6 teams added in just 7 years (2 in 1988, 2 in 1989, and 2 in 1995), which just happened to perfectly coincide with MJ's assent.


That's a major reason why offensive play cratered in that era to the point the league had to shorten the three-point line in 1995 just to stimulate offence.

It's a major reason why even the top teams usually had 1-2 starters who were straight trash (washed Duckworth on the Blazers, West/Dumas on the Suns, Brickowski on the Sonics, Keefe/Ostertag on the Jazz), which made a Bulls team that could go strong 7-deep so dominant.

Ostertag and Keefe weren't trash. West certainly wasn't

[coastalmarker99]

Ostertag and Keefe weren't trash. West certainly wasn't

They were trash compared to Mark Eaton who was a defensive beast and a two time defensive player of the year winner

[Reggie43]

They won 72 games because of expansion they don't win 72 games if they had played in the golden era of the 1980s



As I have repeatedly pointed out before in the past that the league was severely diluted in the 1990s. It was actually 6 teams added in just 7 years (2 in 1988, 2 in 1989, and 2 in 1995), which just happened to perfectly coincide with MJ's assent.


That's a major reason why offensive play cratered in that era to the point the league had to shorten the three-point line in 1995 just to stimulate offence.

It's a major reason why even the top teams usually had 1-2 starters who were straight trash (washed Duckworth on the Blazers, West/Dumas on the Suns, Brickowski on the Sonics, Keefe/Ostertag on the Jazz), which made a Bulls team that could go strong 7-deep so dominant.

They would still be a great team regardless of era. Not that hard to see if you watched them play and understand the game.

Would they be favorites against those 80s Lakers and Celtic teams? Probably not but those Bulls are very capable of beating those teams and vice versa.

[Reggie43]

Calling starter quality players trash just to prove a point is beyond lazy.

[Xiao Yao You]

They were trash compared to Mark Eaton who was a defensive beast and a two time defensive player of the year winner

You obviously never watched Eaton play. Slow and clueless. He could hold his long arms up in the air though!

[Reggie43]

They were trash compared to Mark Eaton who was a defensive beast and a two time defensive player of the year winner

Regardless of how good Mark Eaton is, the only reason you think highly of him is because he was mentored by Wilt Chamberlain am I right?

[ShawkFactory]

You obviously never watched Eaton play. Slow and clueless. He could hold his long arms up in the air though!

Doesn’t really matter when you’re swatting more than 5 shots a game..

[Kiddlovesnets]

lol what a joke, use some kind of simulation games to determine which team was stronger? I can play my NBA 2K21 and show that 96 Bulls swept 17 Warriors, what would that tell you? Its a simulation game and its random, only thing you need to know. You are so desperate and mad.
:roll:

[dankok8]

The league was diluted in the 90's but it's even more diluted in 2017. 29 teams vs. 30 teams so yea that's a terrible argument.

I think the series could go either way. The 2017 Warriors are the one team in the last few years I can see beating the Bulls. Easily though? Nah... The Doberman defense of the Bulls would be enough to force Curry into a lot of turnovers especially with the full court press and make the Warriors as a whole have some terrible shooting nights. And I don't think Jordan can even be dented with today's rules so there's that.

[mehyaM24]

chicago was great defensively but so were the warriors - who all year had the highest net rating and later best playoff d-rating. too many mismatches in their favor, but that extra perimeter star (either one of steph/klay/kd) is the biggest one. warriors in 7

[HoopsNY]

The 1996 Bulls were unique in that they had a lineup that could play small ball and also outshoot you. They were amongst the best three point shooting teams that season and Rodman was an elite defensive specialist capable of playing down low or the perimeter.

MJ/Pippen are some of the best perimeter defenders, ever, and would post a significant problem for guys like Steph and Klay. So there are a lot of neutralizing elements that Chicago brings to the table that the Warriors hadn't seen that year, or even the next season in 2018.

And in 2018, Houston takes virtually the same team to 7 games, without Chris Paul in games 6 and 7. I think Chicago wins it in 6 or 7.

[Xiao Yao You]

Doesn’t really matter when you’re swatting more than 5 shots a game..

It does when you're playing 4 on 5 at the other end. There's a reason they didn't ever make it to the finals when Eaton was in the middle. He was a joke!

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I'm going with 1996 bulls on this one. They have the best player in Jordan and they are more battle tested and mentally tough. 2017 warriors are a little overrated due to playing Aldridge in the west finals and enhancing their stats because of it. Kawhi would of busted those bums if they didn't injure him.

By 2017, Irving had already mentally checked out and didn't have a desire to play with LeBron anymore. So kind of a weak finals opponent as well.

[Bronbron23]

The 2017 Warriors are basketball perfection they would have killed the Bulls with their shooting even under 1990's rules as with a shorted three-point line their shooting would have been even more deadly.






To beat Durant's Warriors


You need an utterly Dominant big man such as Wilt, Shaq and Kareem



The only teams that I can see beating the 2017 Warriors in a series



are the 1967 76ers


The 1986 Celtics


And the 2001 Lakers

Why? Wasn't much difference between 17 and 18 warriors and rockets had the 18 warriors beat with no dominant big and old cp. Harden was nice but he's no mj.

Plus rockets were beating them because of their defense and the bulls matched up perfectly defensively. Pip on kd, mj on klay, rod on green and harp on steph. It be a good series. To close to call.

[Axe]

Didn't we have a thread like this last year?

[kawhileonard2]

2017 Spurs would have beaten the 2017 Warriors had not Zaza happened. We were up 23 before that time. Spurs win in 6 that year and win title.

[coastalmarker99]

2017 Spurs would have beaten the 2017 Warriors had not Zaza happened. We were up 23 before that time. Spurs win in 6 that year and win title.

Cavs beat the Spurs that year even if they get past the Warriors.

[kawhileonard2]

Cavs beat the Spurs that year even if they get past the Warriors.

Naw, Lebron had got embarrassed by Kawhi that year already. https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201701210CLE.html

[Mr.GOAT2408]

2017 Warriors have a chance under modern rules but either way I lean Bulls, I think the difference maker for modern rules is Kukoc would look a lot better today than in his own era even if you want to argue some of the other rotation players (because we know MJ/Pippen would look better today) would adapt poorly

Under 90s rules though, that Warriors team going to hate physicality. Not every post 90s team hates physicality, the mid 00s Pistons, big 3 Cs, and early 10s Grizzlies/Pacers didn't, but the Warriors are not one of those teams

And since 2017 Spurs were mentioned... that team really wasn't anything special and yet they still could have given the Warriors a 6-7 game series with a healthy Kawhi, the 00s Spurs were so much better than that squad. It was literally a worse version of some of those 00s Spurs/Lakers squad with geriatric versions of Parker/Manu/Pau and a worse (but still fantastic) version of Kobe; they did have LMA though who was good but not Portland good.

17 Warriors were one of the most dominant teams ever but 2017 was not a great year of basketball

[Thenameless]

Draymond on Jordan, Jordan still scores. Rodman on Durant, Durant quits or gets injured. Of course, there's still no easy answer to the splash brothers. I still lean towards Chicago. They have the better intro.

[Gohan]

The 2017 and 2018 warriors continue to be overrated. They weren’t even that good maybe the 17 warriors but the 18 wasn’t anything special