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HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 04:24 PM
Chris Paul has been around for what seems like 20 years now and this crybaby bitch has based his entire career around flopping\choking\getting injured. Chris has never led a team in GmSc and won a 2nd round series! and he cried like a baby in 2015 1st round series after Blake Griffin led the series in GmSc! The only two playoff series that Chris Paul ever led his team in GmSc and won were in 2008 against Mavs in 1st round and 2012 against Grizzles in 1st round. This guy hasn't led a team in GmSc and won a playoff series in 9 years! Every time he sniffs playoff success, he hurts his hamstring and takes himself out of the playoffs (2015,2018). When he's not getting hurt, he's flopping and jacking up bricks like a mad man (just last year in game 7 vs rockets). This guy has to be the biggest choker in NBA history.

Damn, 3 bold points has confirmed Chris Paul as the biggest choker in NBA history.

MrFonzworth
04-10-2021, 04:27 PM
Kawhi had the single biggest choke in NBA history. Fresh off a a ring and chocked a 3-1 lead in the 2nd round yikes.

highwhey
04-10-2021, 04:33 PM
Kawhi had the single biggest choke in NBA history. Fresh off a a ring and chocked a 3-1 lead in the 2nd round yikes.

:roll: /endthread

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 04:36 PM
Kawhi had the single biggest choke in NBA history. Fresh off a a ring and chocked a 3-1 lead in the 2nd round yikes.

Did he play? because Chris didn't even play in games 6\7 of 2018 WCF.

Also has Kawhi led a 2nd round team in GmSC? well sure he has, he had the goat series vs 76ers in 2019. What about Choke Paul? NONE

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 04:37 PM
:roll: /endthread

Are you really choking if you're playing in a prison bubble hotel with no fans watching you? lol

SouBeachTalents
04-10-2021, 04:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY&ab_channel=Z.Highlights

https://i.postimg.cc/bv8LSvSY/game-7-choke-3-1-yikes.png

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 04:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY&ab_channel=Z.Highlights

https://i.postimg.cc/bv8LSvSY/game-7-choke-3-1-yikes.png

So your argument is the guy with 2 finals MVPS is the bigger choker? LMAO. NEXT

ralph_i_el
04-10-2021, 05:24 PM
You're a dumbass if you think getting injured means you choked. CP3 is consistently one of the best clutch performers, going back to his time in New Orleans. He faced some of the toughest match-ups in the playoffs of any hall of famer, and had some really bad luck.

If he played on a decent team in the East his playoff record would be way different.

Also. Who tf cares at "GmSc"? Watch the game dummy.

ralph_i_el
04-10-2021, 05:28 PM
Imagine looking at a player whose biggest strength is getting the best out of his teammates, and knocking him for not leading his team in some bullshit composite stat. Chris Paul's game vastly improves his teammates stats....it's not the criticism you think it is. When he plays well, they play well.

Iirc GmSc doesn't even account for individual defense at all besides blocks/steals.

MVP level on/off +/- is around +12. CP3 has done +10 in the PLAYOFFS (no cupcake teams) 5 times, and +20 3 times. That is DOMINANT. Kobe was +20 in only 1 playoff run in his career (+29 in '99). LeBron did it 6 times (and +30 once).

Hey Yo
04-10-2021, 05:31 PM
So your argument is the guy with 2 finals MVPS is the bigger choker? LMAO. NEXT

When did CP3 lose a series that his team was the heavy betting favorites?

mehyaM24
04-10-2021, 05:49 PM
Imagine looking at a player whose biggest strength is getting the best out of his teammates, and knocking him for not leading his team in some bullshit composite stat. Chris Paul's game vastly improves his teammates stats....it's not the criticism you think it is. When he plays well, they play well.

Iirc GmSc doesn't even account for individual defense at all besides blocks/steals.

MVP level on/off +/- is around +12. CP3 has done +10 in the PLAYOFFS (no cupcake teams) 5 times, and +20 3 times. That is DOMINANT. Kobe was +20 in only 1 playoff run in his career (+29 in '99). LeBron did it 6 times (and +30 once).

gamescore is like per, winshares etc. doesn't tell you much other than what you produced in a game log. i totally agree that watching games is most important, but if you DID want to use stats, bpm/rpm/rapm are better measures in every way. all three isolate individual impact from team.

on/off isn't as nuanced however still good because it shows team function. and no, chris paul isn't the "biggest choker" ever. he is objectively one of the BEST playoff performers ever - which is why he rates top 5 alltime in playoff bpm

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 05:49 PM
You're a dumbass if you think getting injured means you choked. CP3 is consistently one of the best clutch performers, going back to his time in New Orleans. He faced some of the toughest match-ups in the playoffs of any hall of famer, and had some really bad luck.

If he played on a decent team in the East his playoff record would be way different.

Also. Who tf cares at "GmSc"? Watch the game dummy.

Staying healthy is apart of your legacy, especially in the biggest moments. I would rather you load manage then get injured in the biggest games of your career. Chris Paul played 58 games in 2018 (he load managed more then Kawhi in 2019) and still managed to get injured? That's calling being injury prone.

Do you think Lebron would be looked at the same if he got injured in 2013 finals game 5 and didn't play in games 6\7 and his team was eliminated because of it? and then he got injured again in 2016 finals games 5 and didn't play games 6\7 and his team got eliminated because of it? That's the type of bullshit that Chris Paul has pulled his entire career.

GmSc is a great indicator of who was the most productive player during that series. Kawhi was the leader in GmSC during the 2014 finals and the 2014 2nd round, even that 2014 Kawhi playoff run is better then any playoff run that Chris Paul has ever had.

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 05:54 PM
When did CP3 lose a series that his team was the heavy betting favorites?

He was up 3-2 vs warriors in 2018 and up 3-1 vs rockets in 2015, he was betting favorites to win at that point and didn't get the job done. You act like Kawhi lost to a 8th seed, Nuggets were on clippers ass the entire season and were a 3 seed. Also Kawhi never had his team win a game without him and still lose the series. Clippers won a game without Paul in 2015 2nd round and he still choked the series away when he returned. Don't compare Choke Paul to guys like Kawhi who have actually dominated series past the 1st round and stayed healthy, it just makes you look like an idiot.

Hey Yo
04-10-2021, 06:01 PM
I was just curious. I didnt know if there were any.

But I see there were no series you could find that they lost when his team was the heavy betting favorite before the series started.

ralph_i_el
04-10-2021, 06:01 PM
Lol wtf Kawhi averaged 14ppg on a historically great team of veterans with the best coach in the league during the 2014 playoffs. Nobody at the time considered him the best player on the Spurs, or even the second best really. His FMVP was a novelty. Gamescore is a stupid stat that just combines simple boxscore stats. Ridiculous.

Comparing a guy that just had to finish plays and play D on a historically great team of veterans to a guy who has to propel an entire offense against more talented teams.

CP3 got hurt and they lost to the Warriors....Kawhi got hurt the previous year and the Spurs lost to the Warriors. CP3 is basically the only player to outplay the Warriors with Durant in a series.

Manny98
04-10-2021, 06:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY&ab_channel=Z.Highlights

https://i.postimg.cc/bv8LSvSY/game-7-choke-3-1-yikes.png
:roll::roll::roll:

And1AllDay
04-10-2021, 06:03 PM
Kawhi had the single biggest choke in NBA history. Fresh off a a ring and chocked a 3-1 lead in the 2nd round yikes.

thread overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


:oldlol: :roll:

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 06:05 PM
I was just curious. I didnt know if there were any.

But I see there were no series you could find that they lost when his team was the heavy betting favorite before the series started.

Only reason they were heavy favorite in the first place is because Kawhi just came off the greatest playoff run in NBA history. In reality, they were not heavy favorite due to horrible depth (Lou Williams, Shamet, Montrezl Harrell).

And1AllDay
04-10-2021, 06:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY&ab_channel=Z.Highlights

https://i.postimg.cc/bv8LSvSY/game-7-choke-3-1-yikes.png

:roll::roll:

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 06:06 PM
Lol wtf Kawhi averaged 14ppg on a historically great team of veterans with the best coach in the league during the 2014 playoffs. Nobody at the time considered him the best player on the Spurs, or even the second best really. His FMVP was a novelty. Gamescore is a stupid stat that just combines simple boxscore stats. Ridiculous.

So I can't use GmSc which shows all production but you can throw out PPG like it has value? hahahaha ok

Kawhi was the leader in VORP during that 2014 title team, if you wanted advanced stats. Also stayed healthy in the finals and average 24PPG for 3 straight wins. Chris Paul can only dream of doing stuff like that.

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 06:17 PM
thread overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


:oldlol: :roll:

Here's both players playoff highlights so far in case you were interested....


https://youtu.be/XS5hqMb39aI



https://youtu.be/AZaUp4bugbk


https://youtu.be/4-Ra2AJNrPQ

ralph_i_el
04-10-2021, 06:18 PM
So I can't use GmSc which shows all production but you can throw out PPG like it has value? hahahaha ok

Kawhi was the leader in VORP during that 2014 title team, if you wanted advanced stats. Also stayed healthy in the finals and average 24PPG for 3 straight wins. Chris Paul can only dream of doing stuff like that.

...and averaged 9ppg in the two wins before that. Advanced stats for such a small sample size are silly. He had a lower PER and Ws/48 than Tiago Splitter in that playoff run. He was not the best player on the Spurs. You would have been laughed at for suggesting it back then.

Hey Yo
04-10-2021, 06:19 PM
Only reason they were heavy favorite in the first place is because Kawhi just came off the greatest playoff run in NBA history. In reality, they were not heavy favorite due to horrible depth (Lou Williams, Shamet, Montrezl Harrell).

Choosing to look really dumb instead of taking the L?


Strange....

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 06:22 PM
...and averaged 9ppg in the two wins before that. Advanced stats for such a small sample size are silly. He had a lower PER and Ws/48 than Tiago Splitter in that playoff run. He was not the best player on the Spurs. You would have been laughed at for suggesting it back then.

Entire playoff runs are small sample sizes now? Kawhi led them in VORP during the ENTIRE playoff run. The finals was won because of the 3 straight wins that Kawhi averaged 24PPG and Tim Duncan averaged 12PPG.

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 06:22 PM
Choosing to look really dumb instead of taking the L?


Strange....

How ironic, Chris Paul's entire playoff career has consisted of looking dumb.

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 06:28 PM
I was just curious. I didnt know if there were any.

But I see there were no series you could find that they lost when his team was the heavy betting favorite before the series started.

Also since you like betting favorites so much, Kawhi won the championship as the non betting favorite with Raptors.

Can you point out a season that Chris Paul won the championship as the non betting favorite? Or even when he played a conference finals game 7 as the non betting favorite?

tontoz
04-10-2021, 06:50 PM
Only reason they were heavy favorite in the first place is because Kawhi just came off the greatest playoff run in NBA history. In reality, they were not heavy favorite due to horrible depth (Lou Williams, Shamet, Montrezl Harrell).


They won 48 games the previous season without PG and kawhi lol.

SouBeachTalents
04-10-2021, 07:09 PM
Kawhi up 3-2 against the biggest playoff choker in history

Game 6 at home
CP3: 19/4/15 on 7/21 with 1 TO
Kawhi: 12/7/2 on 3/15 with 4 TO

Kawhi in the 4th: ZERO points in 12 minutes played

Game 7
CP3: 27/2/6 on 9/13
Kawhi: 13/10/1 on 5/13

Kawhi in the 4th: 2 points on 1/7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6W_WEbcM0&ab_channel=NBA

These were games the Spurs lost by 8 points combined, if Kawhi manages to score his pedestrian 17 ppg average from the regular season in either of these games the Spurs win the series

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 07:11 PM
They won 48 games the previous season without PG and kawhi lol.

Shai and Tobias were there. Also Lou has been a consistent playoff choker all his life and Montrezl Harrell has the brain of a doorknob. You can't look in the mirror with a straight face and say Lou\Trez are championship rotation players can you? If so, just turn off your tv and stop watching basketball.

And1AllDay
04-10-2021, 07:12 PM
Kawhi up 3-2 against the biggest playoff choker in history

Game 6 at home
CP3: 19/4/15 on 7/21 with 1 TO
Kawhi: 12/7/2 on 3/15 with 4 TO

Kawhi in the 4th: ZERO points in 12 minutes played

Game 7
CP3: 27/2/6 on 9/13
Kawhi: 13/10/1 on 5/13

Kawhi in the 4th: 2 points on 1/7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6W_WEbcM0&ab_channel=NBA

These were games the Spurs lost by 8 points combined, if Kawhi manages to score his pedestrian 17 ppg average from the regular season in either of these games the Spurs win the series

issa big wrap :dancin

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 07:15 PM
Kawhi up 3-2 against the biggest playoff choker in history

Game 6 at home
CP3: 19/4/15 on 7/21 with 1 TO
Kawhi: 12/7/2 on 3/15 with 4 TO

Kawhi in the 4th: ZERO points in 12 minutes played

Game 7
CP3: 27/2/6 on 9/13
Kawhi: 13/10/1 on 5/13

Kawhi in the 4th: 2 points on 1/7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6W_WEbcM0&ab_channel=NBA

These were games the Spurs lost by 8 points combined, if Kawhi manages to score his pedestrian 17 ppg average from the regular season in either of these games the Spurs win the series

Kawhi was just coming off two finals runs and the little midget snuck in for a win on his homecourt as the sidekick? Chris Paul didn't lead his team in GmSc during that series, so he doesn't get the credit as the overall production leader. Kawhi also led his team in PPG, so i don't see how you can blame him for playing with the corpses of Tony Parker and Manu. If Tim Duncan blocks a 5"11 guy on that game winning shot in game 7, the spurs win the series. Did you know that Tony Parker had a -7.4BPM? So Kawhi was over +10 BPM advantage over his co scoring leader.

In other words, not Kawhi's fault.

tontoz
04-10-2021, 07:15 PM
Shai and Tobias were there. Also Lou has been a consistent playoff choker all his life and Montrezl Harrell has the brain of a doorknob. You can't look in the mirror with a straight face and say Lou\Trez are championship rotation players can you? If so, just turn off your tv and stop watching basketball.


Shai was a rookie that averaged 11/3 :lol

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 07:26 PM
Shai was a rookie that averaged 11/3 :lol

Ok but two 20PPG scorers in Gallo\Tobias and pretty much an entirely different team. They got rid of all the actual talent (Gallo, Tobias, Shai) and stuck Kawhi with the dumpster fire (Lou, Trez, Shamet). That's what happens you trade for superstars, you get your team stripped apart. Both seasons have absolutely nothing to do with each other, besides Lou\Trez being there and being dumbf*cks and not understanding their roles.

tontoz
04-10-2021, 07:39 PM
Ok but two 20PPG scorers in Gallo\Tobias and pretty much an entirely different team. They got rid of all the actual talent (Gallo, Tobias, Shai) and stuck Kawhi with the dumpster fire (Lou, Trez, Shamet). That's what happens you trade for superstars, you get your team stripped apart. Both seasons have absolutely nothing to do with each other, besides Lou\Trez being there and being dumbf*cks and not understanding their roles.


Tobias was traded midseason. They were 30-25 before the trade, 18-9 after the trade.

They also won 2 playoff games against a healthy GS.

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 07:58 PM
Tobias was traded midseason. They were 30-25 before the trade, 18-9 after the trade.

They also won 2 playoff games against a healthy GS.

He was still their best scorer for 30\48 wins. Playoffs they allowed an offensive rating of 121.9 hahahahah they were a joke and warriors didn't take them seriously.

Also the 2 man lineup of Lou\Trez in the bubble during playoffs was -16.5

SouBeachTalents
04-10-2021, 08:04 PM
He was still their best scorer for 30\48 wins. Playoffs they allowed an offensive rating of 121.9 hahahahah they were a joke and warriors didn't take them seriously.

Also the 2 man lineup of Lou\Trez in the bubble during playoffs was -16.5
I'm sure the Warriors didn't take most of their opponents seriously, but to win two games against a completely healthy Warrior team, both of them in Golden State, is a hell of an accomplishment.

Outside of this series the Durant Warriors lost 1 home playoff game in 3 years

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 08:23 PM
I'm sure the Warriors didn't take most of their opponents seriously, but to win two games against a completely healthy Warrior team, both of them in Golden State, is a hell of an accomplishment.

Outside of this series the Durant Warriors lost 1 home playoff game in 3 years

Meh, the 37-45 hawks took the 2008 celtics to 7 games.

Those Durant Warriors teams were overrated anyway, they didn't play anybody pre finals in either of their rings because they hurt Kawhi and Chris Paul pulled his hamstring again. They were losing 2-3 to the 2018 rockets and were going to lose the series but Paul pulled his hamstring. Pretty much took advantage of Paul being a choker and Zaza being clumsy as shit.

tontoz
04-10-2021, 08:32 PM
He was still their best scorer for 30\48 wins. Playoffs they allowed an offensive rating of 121.9 hahahahah they were a joke and warriors didn't take them seriously.

Also the 2 man lineup of Lou\Trez in the bubble during playoffs was -16.5


Lol funny how you twist things around their winning percentage was much higher after the Tobias trade.

GS was a dynasty with a stellar playoff record. I see no reason to think they took playoff games less seriously than regular season games.

SouBeachTalents
04-10-2021, 08:38 PM
Meh, the 37-45 hawks took the 2008 celtics to 7 games.

Those Durant Warriors teams were overrated anyway, they didn't play anybody pre finals in either of their rings because they hurt Kawhi and Chris Paul pulled his hamstring again. They were losing 2-3 to the 2018 rockets and were going to lose the series but Paul pulled his hamstring. Pretty much took advantage of Paul being a choker and Zaza being clumsy as shit.
I completely disagree they were overrated, but between Kawhi & CP3 and facing a depleted Cavs team in 2015, the Warriors benefited from injuries more than any other team I've seen, in any sport

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 08:53 PM
Lol funny how you twist things around their winning percentage was much higher after the Tobias trade.

GS was a dynasty with a stellar playoff record. I see no reason to think they took playoff games less seriously than regular season games.

They took the opponent less seriously because the opponent was a joke. Hope I made it a little more clear for you. Show me any Lou Williams or Harrell playoff runs and we can talk more.

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 08:55 PM
I completely disagree they were overrated, but between Kawhi & CP3 and facing a depleted Cavs team in 2015, the Warriors benefited from injuries more than any other team I've seen, in any sport

That's what makes them overrated by default, they constantly picked on injured teams. That 2018 warriors team didn't seem to play much defense and were getting exposed by rockets. 2019 warriors also tied 2-2 with rockets and then won after Durant was injured. Swept without Durant in the WCF. The Durant warriors were a toxic team and would of choked if they played a healthy team, even Kawhi and his junky spurs would of beat them.

tontoz
04-10-2021, 09:02 PM
They took the opponent less seriously because the opponent was a joke. Hope I made it a little more clear for you. Show me any Lou Williams or Harrell playoff runs and we can talk more.

Harrell averaged 18 shooting 73% against GS in only 26 minutes per game. Lou averaged 22 against GS. Not enough help for Kawhi though. :lol

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 09:13 PM
Harrell averaged 18 shooting 73% against GS in only 26 minutes per game. Lou averaged 22 against GS. Not enough help for Kawhi though. :lol

They were allowing a 121 offensive rating that series you idiot, you think that's championship basketball?

Lou has a career 49% TS in playoffs and negative BPM

Harrell is just a failed doc rivers project.

Neither are players on a championship rotation team.

HBK_Kliq_2
04-10-2021, 09:17 PM
One thing Chris Paul is good at is doing the things that LeBron fails to do

LeBron gets his ass kicked by kawhi and Duncan. Paul beats them the next year

LeBron gets his ass kicked by Durant and curry. Chris Paul was up 3-2 until injury.

Too bad in the biggest moments he resorts to flopping, choking, and pulling that hammy

tontoz
04-10-2021, 09:26 PM
They were allowing a 121 offensive rating that series you idiot, you think that's championship basketball?

Lou has a career 49% TS in playoffs and negative BPM

Harrell is just a failed doc rivers project.

Neither are players on a championship rotation team.


They were playing against a dynasty with two of the best scorers in league history. Of course they struggled to defend them idiot. GS easily led the league in offensive rating that year. (Clippers were 10th BTW:lol)

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 05:29 AM
Yes sir. We saw vintage choke Paul last night

Spurs m8
05-28-2021, 05:39 AM
Remember that season ISH resident alcoholic Smokeyboy was calling him the Point God at any given moment.

The dudes still underachieving when it matters

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 05:49 AM
Remember that season ISH resident alcoholic Smokeyboy was calling him the Point God at any given moment.

The dudes still underachieving when it matters

Guys like shooter and Hamtaro actually look up to this flopping spaz piece of shit Chris Choke hahahaha

Biggest choker in NBA history, he's either chucking up bricks or flopping or getting injured.

Failed with superstars like harden. Even Pau Gasol should be ranked above Chris Paul on all time great lists.

Sulico
05-28-2021, 05:54 AM
Everybody had a bad performances in the playoffs even top players like MJ and Lebron.

ArbitraryWater
05-28-2021, 05:54 AM
He was up 3-2 vs warriors in 2018 and up 3-1 vs rockets in 2015, he was betting favorites to win at that point and didn't get the job done. You act like Kawhi lost to a 8th seed, Nuggets were on clippers ass the entire season and were a 3 seed. Also Kawhi never had his team win a game without him and still lose the series. Clippers won a game without Paul in 2015 2nd round and he still choked the series away when he returned. Don't compare Choke Paul to guys like Kawhi who have actually dominated series past the 1st round and stayed healthy, it just makes you look like an idiot.


they were absolutely not the betting favorites, as the 4-3 coinceeded with him going down. he didnt even play how could he have choked lol.

ArbitraryWater
05-28-2021, 05:55 AM
Guys like shooter and Hamtaro actually look up to this flopping spaz piece of shit Chris Choke hahahaha

Biggest choker in NBA history, he's either chucking up bricks or flopping or getting injured.

Failed with superstars like harden. Even Pau Gasol should be ranked above Chris Paul on all time great lists.

seething that LeBron goes further than Kawhit again

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 05:58 AM
Everybody had a bad performances in the playoffs even top players like MJ and Lebron.


they were absolutely not the betting favorites, as the 4-3 coinceeded with him going down. he didnt even play how could he have choked lol.

Every year he either

- blows series leads due to getting injured
- plays like shit

So he's basically a worthless choker in the playoffs. Stop spazzing out all the time and maybe you won't get injured. Did you see how he got the shoulder contusion in game 1? Nobody even touched him. He's generally a healthy player in regular season as well, so that tells me he's getting injured in these big moments because he's spazzing out and choking.

ArbitraryWater
05-28-2021, 06:08 AM
"injured because he's spazzing out and choking" doctor klit




https://i.gyazo.com/0a689d41174f2955314b8bf1086615bc.png
https://i.gyazo.com/8916d85787ec1eb0ae80291892fa76a1.png

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 06:27 AM
"injured because he's spazzing out and choking" doctor klit




https://i.gyazo.com/0a689d41174f2955314b8bf1086615bc.png
https://i.gyazo.com/8916d85787ec1eb0ae80291892fa76a1.png

He has blown three different series leads because of injuries (2015,2018,2021) and the rest of the time he's playing like shit. That's the definition of a choker.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 06:28 AM
seething that LeBron goes further than Kawhit again

Kawhi has stopped two different 3peats

LeBron will never accomplish anything close to that.

ArbitraryWater
05-28-2021, 06:29 AM
Kawhi has stopped two different 3peats

LeBron will never accomplish anything close to that.


:lol

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 06:45 AM
:lol

33 PER right now, look me up hahahah

coin24
05-28-2021, 06:54 AM
Chris small sucking di.ck in the playoffs , what a surprise :lol

Spain_
05-28-2021, 07:04 AM
I dont know about choking but he does always get injured in the playoffs.
Maybe once the game becomes more physical the body just hold up for some reason.

Overdrive
05-28-2021, 07:07 AM
33 PER right now, look me up hahahah

Kawhi, will never win an MVP award. As good as he is, he's a Sidney Moncrief turned Bernard King, who lucked out on the teams he landed on.

Sulico
05-28-2021, 07:26 AM
He has blown three different series leads because of injuries (2015,2018,2021) and the rest of the time he's playing like shit. That's the definition of a choker.

Chris Paul never lost to lower seed without him or his costar being injured.

Kawhi lost to lower seed 3 times in his career with fully healthy squad.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 07:38 AM
Chris Paul never lost to lower seed without him or his costar being injured.

Kawhi lost to lower seed 3 times in his career with fully healthy squad.

That's because every kawhi team massively overachieves in regular season because he's on the roster. You can't compare kawhi to Chris Paul because kawhi has proven he can stay healthy for a title run, that's disrespectful to Kawhi.

Paul has never even had as good of a playoff run as 2014 kawhi because he always choked or ruined his teams chances by getting injured.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 07:41 AM
Kawhi, will never win an MVP award. As good as he is, he's a Sidney Moncrief turned Bernard King, who lucked out on the teams he landed on.

That's just a popularity award that non top 50 players like Allen Iverson and Westbrook have won. Kawhi has led 7 different top 3 SRS teams in VORP, that has more value then regular season mvps.

Also kawhi's 2019 playoff run was the greatest in NBA history as he scored 732 points, led the playoffs in steals and offensive rebounds, eliminated 4 different mvps, won finals mvp over the 73 win core curry/klay/dray/iggy

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 07:43 AM
I dont know about choking but he does always get injured in the playoffs.
Maybe once the game becomes more physical the body just hold up for some reason.

Because he's spazzing out and can't control himself physically and emotionally. He can't handle the big moments, he's choking in other words.

Sulico
05-28-2021, 08:11 AM
That's because every kawhi team massively overachieves in regular season because he's on the roster. You can't compare kawhi to Chris Paul because kawhi has proven he can stay healthy for a title run, that's disrespectful to Kawhi.

Paul has never even had as good of a playoff run as 2014 kawhi because he always choked or ruined his teams chances by getting injured.

Stop with this bullshit. Kawhi was drafted to 61 win team. Then was traded to 59 win team, then joined 48 win team for free with nobody leaving in return. Overachieving in those situations would be winning like 72 games.

Can you imagine someone like Lebron or Steph or Luka or KD in those situations?

Well KD actually was in situation like that when he joined Warriors and he instantly won 2 chips and was couple of injuries away from 3rd.

Kawhi choked plenty of times in playoffs, last season included, lost many times to lower seed. KD for example always outperforms him and Kawhi loves to choke against him.

Stanley Kobrick
05-28-2021, 08:14 AM
Stop with this bullshit. Kawhi was drafted to 61 win team. Then was traded to 59 win team, then joined 48 win team for free with nobody leaving in return. Overachieving in those situations would be winning like 72 games.

Can you imagine someone like Lebron or Steph or Luka or KD in those situations?

Well KD actually was in situation like that when he joined Warriors and he instantly won 2 chips and was couple of injuries away from 3rd.

Kawhi choked plenty of times in playoffs, last season included, lost many times to lower seed. KD for example always outperforms him and Kawhi loves to choke against him.
:cheers:

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 08:33 AM
Stop with this bullshit. Kawhi was drafted to 61 win team. Then was traded to 59 win team, then joined 48 win team for free with nobody leaving in return. Overachieving in those situations would be winning like 72 games.

Can you imagine someone like Lebron or Steph or Luka or KD in those situations?

Well KD actually was in situation like that when he joined Warriors and he instantly won 2 chips and was couple of injuries away from 3rd.

Kawhi choked plenty of times in playoffs, last season included, lost many times to lower seed. KD for example always outperforms him and Kawhi loves to choke against him.

Makes no sense, kawhi's teams won titles in 2014 and 2019. None of the other teams were title teams. He never played with a superstar in his prime. Before spurs drafted kawhi in 2011, they were eliminated in the 1st round to an 8th seed.

Durant has never won a playoff series without an MVP on his team. Kawhi won a championship in 2019 with Lowry who has never even made a 2nd team all NBA.

Jamal Murray led the nuggets in points win shares and had a better playoff run then Paul George ever had. Michael porter Jr is also better then any 3rd player that kawhi ever had.

Kawhi has never lost a game 7 on his home court and has never lost to a team with less talent.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 08:48 AM
And mentioning curry or luka in the same breath as kawhi is a joke.

Curry has no finals mvps and couldn't even lead his team to the 8th seed despite having multiple games to do so.

Luka has never won a playoff series and will never win a championship with porzingis as his sidekick. Also has a ball dominant harden lite style that will never win in playoffs.

Shooter
05-28-2021, 08:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EjZZLJwteY&ab_channel=Z.Highlights

https://i.postimg.cc/bv8LSvSY/game-7-choke-3-1-yikes.png

This guy is

hold this L
05-28-2021, 08:54 AM
And mentioning curry or luka in the same breath as kawhi is a joke.

Curry has no finals mvps and couldn't even lead his team to the 8th seed despite having multiple games to do so.

Luka has never won a playoff series and will never win a championship with porzingis as his sidekick. Also has a ball dominant harden lite style that will never win in playoffs.
2-0 against your boy with that Harden-lite style though.

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Sulico
05-28-2021, 09:13 AM
Makes no sense, kawhi's teams won titles in 2014 and 2019. None of the other teams were title teams. He never played with a superstar in his prime. Before spurs drafted kawhi in 2011, they were eliminated in the 1st round to an 8th seed.

Durant has never won a playoff series without an MVP on his team. Kawhi won a championship in 2019 with Lowry who has never even made a 2nd team all NBA.

Jamal Murray led the nuggets in points win shares and had a better playoff run then Paul George ever had. Michael porter Jr is also better then any 3rd player that kawhi ever had.

Kawhi has never lost a game 7 on his home court and has never lost to a team with less talent.

Look, I know you love your idol and this love clouding your judgement, but how about waiting more than a year after last seasons Clippers game 7 before pushing the idea that Kawhi never choked.

You really look like clown now in front of whole message board.

rawimpact
05-28-2021, 11:22 AM
That's because every kawhi team massively overachieves in regular season because he's on the roster. You can't compare kawhi to Chris Paul because kawhi has proven he can stay healthy for a title run, that's disrespectful to Kawhi.

Paul has never even had as good of a playoff run as 2014 kawhi because he always choked or ruined his teams chances by getting injured.



This is one hell of a dumb post

The guy who can't play back to back games is massively overachieving during the regular season? wtf

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 04:21 PM
This is one hell of a dumb post

The guy who can't play back to back games is massively overachieving during the regular season? wtf

When you're the greatest player in NBA history, you can load manage and still be the leader of VORP as Kawhi has shown in 7 different seasons of teams that were top 3 in SRS.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 04:22 PM
2-0 against your boy with that Harden-lite style though.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RecklessTinyGerbil-max-1mb.gif

He's not outplaying Kawhi though as Kawhi has a +5 BPM over him and about a +8 win share per 48 on him. Just has better teammates, Hardaway has turned into Curry.

Let me know when Luka has a 732 point finals MVP like Kawhi did.

HBK_Kliq_2
05-28-2021, 04:23 PM
Look, I know you love your idol and this love clouding your judgement, but how about waiting more than a year after last seasons Clippers game 7 before pushing the idea that Kawhi never choked.

You really look like clown now in front of whole message board.

They lost to a better team.

Murray > George in playoffs

Porter > Morris

They only overachieved and got to 3-1 because Kawhi is the GOAT

Manny98
05-28-2021, 05:07 PM
Kawhi is

Overdrive
05-28-2021, 10:22 PM
That's just a popularity award that non top 50 players like Allen Iverson and Westbrook have won. Kawhi has led 7 different top 3 SRS teams in VORP, that has more value then regular season mvps.

Also kawhi's 2019 playoff run was the greatest in NBA history as he scored 732 points, led the playoffs in steals and offensive rebounds, eliminated 4 different mvps, won finals mvp over the 73 win core curry/klay/dray/iggy

:lol VORP > MVPs. Maybe for outlier MVPs like Rose or Westbrook. But under normalized conditions MVP means your more likely a legendary player than some random advanced stat.
Truth is you're trying to rile up people against some run of the mill starplayer, while in reality you stan some other dude and get a kick out of that. No way you believe what you post.

TheCorporation
05-28-2021, 10:59 PM
How can a Kawhi stan make this thread with a straight face?

HBK_Kliq_2
06-25-2021, 05:06 PM
It's that time of the year again. Chris, you know the drill.

highwhey
06-25-2021, 05:25 PM
he choked yesterday

Ice Trae
06-25-2021, 05:44 PM
If CP3 is a choker than he was good enough to beat the ultimate 1st round choker LeBron. Lebron choked and couldn’t lead his team out of the 1st round stating he needed the real star AD to carry him.

Chuckbe
06-25-2021, 05:51 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/fvAww2GShZgxEFXbR6/giphy.gif

kawhileonard2
06-25-2021, 11:19 PM
Lebron lost to Chris Paul in a series. Let that sink in for a moment. :roll:

SouBeachTalents
06-25-2021, 11:20 PM
Lebron lost to Chris Paul in a series. Let that sink in for a moment. :roll:
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HBK_Kliq_2
06-25-2021, 11:29 PM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AngelicElderlyAsianpiedstarling-size_restricted.gif

If only 49 year old Duncan can jump over a phone book, that series would of been won.

Lebron23
06-25-2021, 11:29 PM
If CP3 is a choker than he was good enough to beat the ultimate 1st round choker LeBron. Lebron choked and couldn’t lead his team out of the 1st round stating he needed the real star AD to carry him.

Another Warriorfan sock account???

SouBeachTalents
06-25-2021, 11:32 PM
If only 49 year old Duncan can jump over a phone book, that series would of been won.
If only Kawhi averaged better than 13 ppg on 40%TS, that series would of been won

HBK_Kliq_2
06-25-2021, 11:35 PM
If only Kawhi averaged better than 13 ppg on 40%TS, that series would of been won

Kawhi averaged 20 and led the team in points for the series, you have him mixed up with someone else.

Spurs m8
06-25-2021, 11:38 PM
If only 49 year old Duncan can jump over a phone book, that series would of been won.

You are a f@ggot

You don't think Cp3 picked his spot to make sure he could get it over the defender?
Oh no, you wouldn't have thought of that, as you know literally nothing about the game.

You didn't even know who Kawhi was then...you've liked basketball for a year...now you bring him up at every opportunity like a fan girling b1tch

Your embarrassing takes confirm that

The forums village idiot

SouBeachTalents
06-25-2021, 11:43 PM
Kawhi averaged 20 and led the team in points for the series, you have him mixed up with someone else.
My bad, I meant to specify Games 6 & 7

Spurs m8
06-25-2021, 11:49 PM
If only this choker could have hit a fvcking free throw

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jayfan
06-27-2021, 08:14 AM
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CP was terrible last night.



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8Ball
06-27-2021, 08:53 AM
Lebron lost to Chris Paul in a series. Let that sink in for a moment. :roll:

Cp3 up 3-1 vs team kawhi

Doranku
06-27-2021, 09:07 AM
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CP was terrible last night.



.

He's been terrible all playoffs except for the 4 games he got to carve up Austin Rivers and some dude named Facundo Campazzo.

j3lademaster
06-27-2021, 10:32 AM
I can live with the decisions Paul was making yesterday. Shots just weren't falling. Dude's midrange is typically money, and when i saw a wide open 15 footer fall short late in the 4th I knew the old man's legs were starting to fail him.

But he still aggressively fought to get the ball late in the game to hit the clutch free throws. That's not a choker, a choker wouldn't want that smoke.

jayfan
06-27-2021, 10:42 AM
I can live with the decisions Paul was making yesterday. Shots just weren't falling. Dude's midrange is typically money, and when i saw a wide open 15 footer fall short late in the 4th I knew the old man's legs were starting to fail him.

But he still aggressively fought to get the ball late in the game to hit the clutch free throws. That's not a choker, a choker wouldn't want that smoke.


I missed the last 5 minutes of the game. But for the first 19 minutes of the 2nd half, Paul's decision-making was poor. He was back to pound the rock Paul. Didn't move the ball/offense well at all.

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HBK_Kliq_2
06-28-2021, 11:31 PM
One more time for Choke Paul.

West finals: 2-0 without Choke Paul

1-2 with Choke Paul

and even the game they won with choke paul, he played like shit.

coastalmarker99
06-28-2021, 11:32 PM
One more time for Choke Paul.

West finals: 2-0 without Choke Paul

1-2 with Choke Paul

and even the game they won with choke paul, he played like shit.


Clippers would have swept the Suns or won in 5 with a fully healthy Kawhi.

coastalmarker99
06-28-2021, 11:35 PM
Anyone who actually watched this series (especially the close 3 LAC losses) should know that Kawhi would’ve bailed them out during all of those cold stretches.

ImKobe
06-28-2021, 11:36 PM
Clippers would have swept the Suns or won in 5 with a fully healthy Kawhi.

Heck, they were a couple plays away from winning in 5 without him. It's a sweep if Kawhi's healthy, no doubt about it. Suns and CP3 are both frauds.

coastalmarker99
06-28-2021, 11:39 PM
Heck, they were a couple plays away from winning in 5 without him. It's a sweep if Kawhi's healthy, no doubt about it. Suns and CP3 are both frauds.


CP3 has nothing but flops when he is struggling to score in the playoffs.



The Suns play better when Payne is on the floor instead of CP3 as Cp3 lets the Clippers defence get set.

HBK_Kliq_2
06-28-2021, 11:48 PM
Exactly, wish kawhi was playing but i'm sure he can return soon.

coastalmarker99
06-28-2021, 11:49 PM
I am telling you If the Suns somehow find a way to lose this series then CP3 is bonafide playoff choker and loses any benefit of the doubt from 2018.

ImKobe
06-28-2021, 11:50 PM
CP3 has nothing but flops when he is struggling to score in the playoffs.



The Suns play better when Payne is on the floor instead of CP3 as Cp3 lets the Clippers defence get set.

CP3 is a poor man's James Harden at this point. I'd take the injured Harden we saw in the Bucks series over current CP3, who can't make a shot beyond 10 ft and who only kills the tempo of his team when they're down and need some quick buckets in transition.

The most overrated player other than Lebron over the past 15 years, I've been preaching this shit for about a decade now; he's not a winner and never will be.

Honor Boost
06-28-2021, 11:50 PM
Exactly, wish kawhi was playing but i'm sure he can return soon.

No one is safe from the Klaw he will return for the Finals after we get past the Suns I can mark my words. Write it down.

Nilocon165
06-28-2021, 11:51 PM
Series should be 3-2 Clips right now after all of Chris Paul’s disastrous performances so far

Hell, they could’ve closed it out tonight if PG could hit free throws

Mulder
06-28-2021, 11:52 PM
cp3 is a poor man's james harden at this point. I'd take the injured harden we saw in the bucks series over current cp3, who can't make a shot beyond 10 ft and who only kills the tempo of his team when they're down and need some quick buckets in transition.

The most overrated player other than lebron over the past 15 years, i've been preaching this shit for about a decade now; he's not a winner and never will be.

ditto!

coastalmarker99
06-28-2021, 11:54 PM
CP3 is a poor man's James Harden at this point. I'd take the injured Harden we saw in the Bucks series over current CP3, who can't make a shot beyond 10 ft and who only kills the tempo of his team when they're down and need some quick buckets in transition.

The most overrated player other than Lebron over the past 15 years, I've been preaching this shit for about a decade now; he's not a winner and never will be.



I am super impressed with the Clips. Phoenix still should take this series with Kawhi, Ibaka and now Zubac out, as well as Morris playing on a dinged knee, but the Clips simply don't give up.

What's wild to me is that up to this point in the playoffs, the team that might have given a full-strength (not including Ibaka) Clips squad the most trouble is Luka's Mavs. They should have won that series, the Mavs, even with Kawhi playing.

HBK_Kliq_2
06-28-2021, 11:55 PM
Harden had a similar choking effect on the nets. Nets went 2-0 without harden in the 2nd round and then got worse when he returned, just like paul this round.

HBK_Kliq_2
06-28-2021, 11:57 PM
I am super impressed with the Clips. Phoenix still should take this series with Kawhi, Ibaka and now Zubac out, as well as Morris playing on a dinged knee, but the Clips simply don't give up.

What's wild to me is that up to this point in the playoffs, the team that might have given a full-strength (not including Ibaka) Clips squad the most trouble is Luka's Mavs. They should have won that series, the Mavs, even with Kawhi playing.

They beat Mavs 4 out of 5 games and 3-0 on homecourt

Beat Utah 4 straight games

Seems like they are the most dominant team in the NBA when clicking but the bucks look close to that level as well.

ImKobe
06-28-2021, 11:59 PM
I am super impressed with the Clips. Phoenix still should take this series with Kawhi, Ibaka and now Zubac out, as well as Morris playing on a dinged knee, but the Clips simply don't give up.

What's wild to me is that up to this point in the playoffs, the team that might have given a full-strength (not including Ibaka) Clips squad the most trouble is Luka's Mavs. They should have won that series, the Mavs, even with Kawhi playing.

Yup. Clippers have the deepest squad in the league, so I'm not as surprised that they're still good with half of their original 8-man rotation either out or hurt. They've played 19 games in 40 days I believe and still play with more energy/intensity than their opponent. The thing is that they can plug & play because Kawhi was never a ball-dominant player, so you can put other players in his role (PG) and you have replacements for Zubac (Morris/Cousins/Batum at the 5) and they still have their best 3PT shooters and were the most efficient 3PT shooting team in the league, so they still have all their strengths and have the versatility to play small and force the Suns to bench Ayton because of his struggles on both ends of the court. Clippers' Zone defense worked wonders and is the reason why Ayton had the worst +/- by far in this game.


Harden had a similar choking effect on the nets. Nets went 2-0 without harden in the 2nd round and then got worse when he returned, just like paul this round.

This is what happens with a ball-dominant guard who dribbles the air out of the ball, effectively killing all pace and helping the opposing team to set up their defense. There's a reason why he's choked so many series in his career, it's not just "bad luck".

hold this L
06-29-2021, 12:01 AM
Harden had a similar choking effect on the nets. Nets went 2-0 without harden in the 2nd round and then got worse when he returned, just like paul this round.
Harden has a groin injury and clearly played injured. He gave his body as a sacrifice to help his team, something that beta you stan has never considered his entire career.

HBK_Kliq_2
06-29-2021, 12:24 AM
Harden has a groin injury and clearly played injured. He gave his body as a sacrifice to help his team, something that beta you stan has never considered his entire career.

Harden has to do that though because he has never proved anything in playoffs.

Kawhi doesn't have to do that after having the greatest playoff run in nba history in 2019 and cucking your boy out in the finals.

Also Kawhi was carrying his team against the mavericks, while harden was coasting and easily beating the celtics. So Kawhi's injury makes more sense because he was overworking himself, now everybody on the clippers is fresh because they barely did anything at all for the first 6 wins of the playoffs.

coastalmarker99
06-29-2021, 12:28 AM
Chris Paul in his 3 WCF games:

18 PPG
31.7% FG
12.5% 3FG
-27 +\-

Yet somehow the media ignores this and still heralds him as the best player on the Suns and the main reason for their success.

hold this L
06-29-2021, 12:29 AM
At this point, I'm starting to think Brick is Jeff just acting like a c*nt to trigger people to post more. I can't think someone posts like this idiot on a regular basis. Half of the things this moron says don't make any sense.

hold this L
06-29-2021, 12:30 AM
Chris Paul in his 3 WCF games:

18 PPG
31.7% FG
12.5% 3FG
-27 +\-

Yet somehow the media ignores this and still heralds him as the best player on the Suns and the main reason for their success.
The media is stuck at cross roads, tried to make a mediocre season look like it was an MVP season which was laughable. Now they don't want to admit this ruse they tried to put everyone in for the supposed interesting MVP race.

Imagine if Lebron, Curry or KD had this game and see what every news reporter and twitter would say.

coastalmarker99
06-29-2021, 12:31 AM
No doubt in my mind series ends tonight with Clips winning it 4-1 had Kawhi played. Not even talking about Ibaka and Zubac.

Games 2 and 4 were super, super close. Games that Kawhi would have closed out.

For example It's not just Kawhi averaging 30/7/4 in this postseason with a 30 PER and a +10.7 BPM. It's his defence and having another body to help give guys a rest.

Healthy Clips = Clips in 5 in this series. I can't see it any other way given how things have unfolded.

I thought the Clips were toast tonight. Done. Once I heard Zubac was out.

But they fight. They fight.

coastalmarker99
06-29-2021, 12:34 AM
The media is stuck at cross roads, tried to make a mediocre season look like it was an MVP season which was laughable. Now they don't want to admit this ruse they tried to put everyone in for the supposed interesting MVP race.

Imagine if Lebron, Curry or KD had this game and see what every news reporter and twitter would say.


Outside a series against Denver in which all of their guards were out and they were starting a 5 foot 9 guard to guard CP3, he has been awful in the postseason and is getting outplayed by Cam Payne.



I can not imagine how bad a fully healthy Warriors team would have stomped everyone in the West this year if they had the Suns luck to play three straight hurt teams.

ImKobe
06-29-2021, 12:34 AM
Chris Paul in his 3 WCF games:

18 PPG
31.7% FG
12.5% 3FG
-27 +\-

Yet somehow the media ignores this and still heralds him as the best player on the Suns and the main reason for their success.

Oh man, I was vomiting all over the place when they started calling him top 5 PG all-time after sweeping an injured Denver squad, who had no one to guard him and gave him one wide open look after another.

Clippers have an amazing defense, we knew this going into the series that they'd be able to limit both Booker and Paul with their defensive schemes and their great man defenders, that Game 1 was a fluke - Booker saved them from losing this series in 5-6 games. They have looked even worse since CP3's return and are insanely lucky to still be in a winning position, despite being outscored in the series.

coastalmarker99
06-29-2021, 12:39 AM
Oh man, I was vomiting all over the place when they started calling him top 5 PG all-time after sweeping an injured Denver squad, who had no one to guard him and gave him one wide open look after another.

Clippers have an amazing defense, we knew this going into the series that they'd be able to limit both Booker and Paul with their defensive schemes and their great man defenders, that Game 1 was a fluke - Booker saved them from losing this series in 5-6 games. They have looked even worse since CP3's return and are insanely lucky to still be in a winning position, despite being outscored in the series.



To think the Clippers defence would be even scarier if they had a fully healthy Kawhi and Serge as those are two great defenders they have that are missing at the moment.



On another note If the Suns lose game 6.


Then CP3 will be under the most pressure ever by an all-time great since Lebron in 2012 to get the job done in a game seven as there is no coming back from this for him if he somehow blows another 3 1 series lead.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-29-2021, 12:39 AM
Chris Paul in his 3 WCF games:

18 PPG
31.7% FG
12.5% 3FG
-27 +\-

Yet somehow the media ignores this and still heralds him as the best player on the Suns and the main reason for their success.

Didn't watch tonight. How bad was he? The other 2 games, Chris was unlucky with some of the bounces.

Not one to say he doesn't want it bad enough. But without Kawhi, he's gotta play better. Its his time now.

If the Suns dont win this series, I doubt he'll have another title opportunity.

coastalmarker99
06-29-2021, 12:43 AM
Didn't watch tonight. How bad was he? The other 2 games, Chris was unlucky with some of the bounces.

Not one to say he doesn't want it bad enough. But without Kawhi, he's gotta play better. Its his time now.

If the Suns dont win this series, I doubt he'll have another title opportunity.

He was awful tonight with his flopping and taking awful shots and slowing the game down with his ball hogging ways which allowed the Clippers defence to get set.



If the Suns lose game six then Jesus game seven will basically be the biggest game for all time great to win in many years.




As you said if the Suns don't win this series, I doubt he'll have another title opportunity again with the Nets coming back along with the Warriors and Lakers plus Denver.

ImKobe
06-29-2021, 12:45 AM
Didn't watch tonight. How bad was he? The other 2 games, Chris was unlucky with some of the bounces.

Not one to say he doesn't want it bad enough. But without Kawhi, he's gotta play better. Its his time now.

If the Suns dont win this series, I doubt he'll have another title opportunity.

Poor defense, couldn't make a shot beyond 20 ft, was 1/3 in the paint and flopped way too much in hopes of getting bailout FTs from the refs, killed the pace of his team when they were the one playing from behind all game.

HBK_Kliq_2
06-29-2021, 12:48 AM
Phoenix Suns have a 97.7 Offensive Rating with Chris Paul on the floor in these Western Conference Finals. It's been 112.5 when he's sat

Damn hahahaha

AirBonner
06-29-2021, 12:51 AM
Damn hahahaha

Smoke on suicide watch lol

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-29-2021, 12:54 AM
He was awful tonight with his flopping and taking awful shots and slowing the game down with his ball hogging ways which allowed the Clippers defence to get set.

If the Suns lose game six then Jesus game seven will basically be the biggest game for all time great to win in many years.

As you said if the Suns don't win this series, I doubt he'll have another title opportunity again with the Nets coming back along with the Warriors and Lakers plus Denver.


Poor defense, couldn't make a shot beyond 20 ft, was 1/3 in the paint and flopped way too much in hopes of getting bailout FTs from the refs, killed the pace of his team when they were the one playing from behind all game.

Yup in those first 2 games, I noticed Phoenix plays faster without him.

Don't think Monty benches him altho cutting some minutes might be a good thing. Paul's jumper has looked flat, and that's usually a sign of fatigue.

The Clippers are the last team you wanna dikk around with. They're on that night of the living dead ish

SouBeachTalents
06-29-2021, 12:58 AM
It's somewhat unfair to judge a player at 36, but man, if they blow a 3-1 lead after going up 2-0 without him AND Kawhi missing the entire series, I don't think CP3 ever lives it down.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-29-2021, 01:03 AM
It's somewhat unfair to judge a player at 36, but man, if they blow a 3-1 lead after going up 2-0 without him AND Kawhi missing the entire series, I don't think CP3 ever lives it down.

Def. And the thing is, LA is playing with house money. They've overachieved without Kawhi and still continue beating the odds.

All the pressure is on Phoenix.

coastalmarker99
06-29-2021, 01:04 AM
It's somewhat unfair to judge a player at 36, but man, if they blow a 3-1 lead after going up 2-0 without him AND Kawhi missing the entire series, I don't think CP3 ever lives it down.

CP3 hasn't had a good game these playoffs except for the four games he got to carve up Austin Rivers and some dude named Facundo Campazzo.



He deserves blame if they blow this series.




As with AD being out when they were down 1-2, and then not even seeing Murray/Kahwi then up 2-0 when CP3 is back the Suns literally have no excuse to lose before the finals.

wagexslave
06-29-2021, 01:38 AM
CP3 hasn't had a good game these playoffs except for the four games he got to carve up Austin Rivers and some dude named Facundo Campazzo.



He deserves blame if they blow this series.




As with AD being out when they were down 1-2, and then not even seeing Murray/Kahwi then up 2-0 when CP3 is back the Suns literally have no excuse to lose before the finals.

As a Suns fan, I agree. He's gotta step it tf up. He's slowing down the offense to a screeching halt for some reason not moving the ball around, like every play is a bunch of standing around and forcing someone into a tough situation at the last second.. like WHY?? That's not the type of offense that brought us success all season, and it's the type of opposing offense that Clippers defenders thrive in the most. They're not going to play off us and give us any space if they see us keep doing this over and over and over. It just makes no sense, especially when the majority of Suns players are iffy at best are creating their own shots. That ball HAS to move on offense.

And his shooting has been bad for seemingly no reason. Even when he shakes his defender and gets open in his favorite spots that were money all season, he's suddenly clunking them left and right. I don't get it. Shake the nerves out man... it's do or die. We gotta play the basketball that got us the 2nd best record in the league or the Clippers WILL beat us. This Clippers team isn't Lebron, they don't give up.

HBK_Kliq_2
06-29-2021, 01:48 AM
https://youtu.be/XFQIqx0VJxU

1:20 cousins steals from Chris Paul and then out runs him and scores on him hahahaha how you let a center with like 3 lower body surgeries do you like that

AirBonner
07-14-2021, 11:32 PM
Cp3 with the turnover 24 seconds left lolol

ImKobe
07-14-2021, 11:36 PM
Yes.

theman93
07-14-2021, 11:36 PM
CPch0ke

SouBeachTalents
07-14-2021, 11:39 PM
If the Suns lose this series tonight's performance goes down as one of the biggest chokes ever. He was absolutely atrocious and gave away what honestly should've been a Phoenix stranglehold on the series

Orange_Cassidy
07-14-2021, 11:40 PM
this video sums up chris Paul's entire playoff career perfectly


https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video-c.php?v=wshhrK59H7nW8Wez98SQ

hold this L
07-14-2021, 11:41 PM
2 TOs and got blocked last 3 minutes of the game.

but.. this is very important. He ran to get an open layup down 8 points with 2 seconds left in the game. Clutch.

Proctor
07-14-2021, 11:44 PM
Where are all the Chris Small apologist hipsters tonight? Omg best PG ever!!!!11 assist to turnover ratio!!111

:yaohappy:

TheCorporation
07-14-2021, 11:45 PM
Where are all the Chris Small apologist hipsters tonight? Omg best PG ever!!!!11 assist to turnover ratio!!111

:yaohappy:

Giannis is legit.

ImKobe
07-14-2021, 11:46 PM
2 TOs and got blocked last 3 minutes of the game.

but.. this is very important. He ran to get an open layup down 8 points with 2 seconds left in the game. Clutch.

Shades of Lebron in all those Finals blowouts lmao.

Hey Yo
07-14-2021, 11:48 PM
Paul with 5 turnovers.... same amount the Bucks had.

coastalmarker99
07-14-2021, 11:49 PM
I never want to hear that he is the best that never won again. No. He is the best that absolutely ****ed every single opportunity he ever had. Plain and simple. His career proves this.

Proctor
07-14-2021, 11:50 PM
I never want to hear that he is the best that never won again. No. He is the best that absolutely ****ed every single opportunity he ever had. Plain and simple. His career proves this.
I don't want to hear that he's better than Kidd or Nash either because he is absolutely not.

coastalmarker99
07-14-2021, 11:55 PM
In a game where the Suns had the opportunity to go up 3-1

Chris Paul drops 8 points.

8.

Don’t you ever again say he’s better than Curry

coastalmarker99
07-14-2021, 11:56 PM
2 TOs and got blocked last 3 minutes of the game.

but.. this is very important. He ran to get an open layup down 8 points with 2 seconds left in the game. Clutch.


Curry would have put this series away I never ever want to hear people saying again that CP3 is better than Curry as Curry's game 5 in the 2015 finals is better than any game of cp3's entire playoff career.

SouBeachTalents
07-14-2021, 11:56 PM
In a game where the Suns had the opportunity to go up 3-1

Chris Paul drops 8 points.

8.

Don’t you ever again say he’s better than Curry
That was probably the worst Finals performance in a game of significance since LeBron's 8 point game 10 years ago. Off the top of my head I can't think of a worse one

coastalmarker99
07-14-2021, 11:57 PM
That was probably the worst Finals performance in a game of significance since LeBron's 8 point game 10 years ago. Off the top of my head I can't think of a worse one


Curry in game seven of the 2016 finals maybe but he redeemed himself during the next 3 years after that loss.

SouBeachTalents
07-14-2021, 11:59 PM
Curry in game seven of the 2016 finals maybe but he redeemed himself during the next 3 years after that loss.
Curry was atrocious but he had least managed to score 17 points. If you wanna factor in he was in his prime and CP3's 36 that's a very valid point, but just judging by the game CP3's was honestly probably worse. 2 of CP3's 10 points were a meaningless layup with the game over

tpols
07-15-2021, 12:00 AM
I don't want to hear that he's better than Kidd or Nash either because he is absolutely not.

Yup. 2010 Nash or 2011 Kidd don't blow it like this.

ClipperRevival
07-15-2021, 12:00 AM
https://media.tenor.com/images/3d2bd535d6c2bf8a66d55cb1d780765f/tenor.gif

imdaman99
07-15-2021, 12:04 AM
He didn't blow the series. He was bad tonight, but he can redeem himself easily with big games from here on out :confusedshrug:

coin24
07-15-2021, 05:00 AM
That was probably the worst Finals performance in a game of significance since LeBron's 8 point game 10 years ago. Off the top of my head I can't think of a worse one

It’s definitely up there.. expected from chris small though.

Can’t say it’s not glorious watching the whiny, flopping little turd lose:lol

AirBonner
07-15-2021, 01:01 PM
Yes

kawhileonard2
07-15-2021, 11:04 PM
He is and Dwight Howard but both beat Lebron :oldlol:

HBK_Kliq_2
07-19-2021, 07:57 PM
Hate to say I told you so.

Chris Paul the choke god always delivers

ninephive
07-19-2021, 08:35 PM
I tried to tell everyone this for years when TP9 was sending CP3 home in the playoffs on the reg.

highwhey
07-19-2021, 08:57 PM
YES

hold this L
07-19-2021, 10:10 PM
YES

Brother, you're a Suns fan

:biggums:

DMAVS41
07-20-2021, 12:35 PM
I was about to answer...of course not and ridicule the question...

But on Fox today I saw a stat that if the Suns lose this series, CP3 will have the most playoff series losses in NBA history in which he had a multi game lead at some point. A bit of a strange stat, but when talking about "choking"...has some relevance.

Combine that with some epic individual and team meltdowns...and he's sadly in the running...obviously where all-time great players are concerned.

I don't think it happens though...I really think he plays great tonight and the Suns win and then they pull it out in game 7.

As much as I've argued with his fans a bit...it would suck to see a player this great have his legacy like this...and he doesn't deserve it either in my opinion. So hopefully he puts on a show tonight.