Kings at Jazz

[Xiao Yao You]

Clarkson out! Morgan is back not that Snyder cares.

Need to take care of business. 1st of 4 games at home that should be easy wins

[Xiao Yao You]

Guess another night when Mitchell shows up just in the 2nd half

[Manny98]

Holmes looking like he's about to have a career night :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Holmes looking like he's about to have a career night :oldlol:

yeah he's scored twice on Favors already. Non skilled big. Should be a long night for him

[Xiao Yao You]

better pick up the D

[Xiao Yao You]

survived another 2-8 from their superstar

[RRR3]

Holmes is ABUSING Toody :biggums:

[RRR3]

Holmes beating Toody like a drum :yaohappy:

[AirBonner]

Toody getting abused

[Xiao Yao You]

Scored half against Favors but enjoy yourselves. Pretty pathetic :lol

[RRR3]

Toody getting abused
Holmes is simply too much for him. Toody does better against stiffs like Biyombo.

[Xiao Yao You]

Holmes is simply too much for him. Toody does better against stiffs like Biyombo.

Not sure how he gets the numbers he does if he can only do it against stiffs. A lot more skilled bigs than stiffs

[Xiao Yao You]

Holmes yet to get a board. Way to do your job! :facepalm

[RRR3]

Holmes yet to get a board. Way to do your job! :facepalm
He’s too busy scoring like prime Shaq.

[RRR3]

17 points on 7-7 in 13 minutes :roll:


Toody is turning Holmes into peak Wilt :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

4 fg's against Rudy

[Manny98]

Holmes going for 40 :roll::roll::roll::roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

Bojan sucking again Need to play some D. Kings are historically bad defensively. Don't want to be in a shootout with them. Maybe Mitchell will pass the ball in 2nd half?

[RRR3]

Holmes going for 40 :roll::roll::roll::roll:
Toody is a joke against physical players :yaohappy:

Dude needs to hit the weightroom, Jazz fans are sick of seeing him bullied by the likes of Jarret Allen, Richaun Holmes and Clint Capela

[Manny98]

btw Holmes career high is 28 points :oldlol:

[RRR3]

btw Holmes career high is 28 points :oldlol:
Holmes eating GOOD tonight. Probably laughing it up with his pals on the bench at Toody trying to guard him.

[Xiao Yao You]

In his face to start the half and Rudy beats him to the other end for dunk. Timeout :applause:

[Xiao Yao You]

Toody is a joke against physical players :yaohappy:

Dude needs to hit the weightroom, Jazz fans are sick of seeing him bullied by the likes of Jarret Allen, Richaun Holmes and Clint Capela

trolls the only ones that seem to be sick of Rudy

[RRR3]

In his face to start the half and Rudy beats him to the other end for dunk. Timeout :applause:
Good job. Maybe he can hold Holmes under 40.

[Manny98]

Holmes :bowdown::bowdown:

[Xiao Yao You]

Good job. Maybe he can hold Holmes under 40.

by he you mean the Jazz?

[Manny98]

"best team in the NBA"

My ass:oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Joe talking! :lol

[Manny98]

Favours finally made Holmes miss

At least someone on the Jazz can slow him down, Rudy certainly couldn't :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

"best team in the NBA"

My ass:oldlol:

they have been. Time for someone to prove otherwise

[Manny98]

Favours & Ingles bringing Utah back into the game

Best bench in the league

[Xiao Yao You]

Favours & Ingles bringing Utah back into the game

Best bench in the league

when Clarkson's out sure

[Kings2024Champs]

I literally need the kings to lose so we can have a shot at Cade Cunningham

[Xiao Yao You]

I literally need the kings to lose so we can have a shot at Cade Cunningham

Must be fun to be a Kings fan. Hoping to lose for ping pong balls year after year

[Xiao Yao You]

There's their usual big 3rd quarter run. Great D. Joe getting under Fox's skin!

[Xiao Yao You]

Kings hanging. God forbid they make the play in! :facepalm

[Kings2024Champs]

Must be fun to be a Kings fan. Hoping to lose for ping pong balls year after year

Not an easy life but been a fan for a long time so is what it is. Cant wait to see a jazz championship this yr! Rudy will lead them and prove hes top 5. Anything short of a great WCF would be a massive disappointment for a guy who has fluffers on a message board :D

[Manny98]

Mitchell & Fox going at it!

[Xiao Yao You]

Not an easy life but been a fan for a long time so is what it is. Cant wait to see a jazz championship this yr! Rudy will lead them and prove hes top 5. Anything short of a great WCF would be a massive disappointment for a guy who has fluffers on a message board :D

those poor fluffers :cheers:

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy with clutch D down the stretch to put them away

[RRR3]

Man Toody was deeeeeee-readful tonight (imagine letting Richaun Holmes turn into Hakeem!). Thank goodness for Mitchell and Conley.

[Xiao Yao You]

Man Toody was deeeeeee-readful tonight (imagine letting Richaun Holmes turn into Hakeem!). Thank goodness for Mitchell and Conley.

Holmes was quiet almost the whole 2nd half while Rudy carried his team to yet another victory :facepalm

[RRR3]

Holmes was quiet almost the whole 2nd half while Rudy carried his team to yet another victory :facepalm
Yes, Toody carried the team with his 6 points and allowing his direct matchup to dominate :lol

It wasn’t as if the Jazz backcourt had 78 points, it was all Toody :yaohappy:

[Xiao Yao You]

Great D in the 2nd half to shut down a good offensive team. Survived Bojan and Mitchell. Conley, Rudy, O'Neale, Ingles and Niang doing the heavy lifting again.

[RRR3]

Great D in the 2nd half to shut down a good offensive team. Survived Bojan and Mitchell. Conley, Rudy, O'Neale, Ingles and Niang doing the heavy lifting again.
Yes they “survived” Mitchell putting up 42/4 :yaohappy:

[Xiao Yao You]

Yes, Toody carried the team with his 6 points and allowing his direct matchup to dominate :lol

It wasn’t as if the Jazz backcourt had 78 points, it was all Toody :yaohappy:

Kings with 47 points in the 2nd half. That's Gobert. Mitchell with 31 shots to get his. What a stud! :lol

[RRR3]

Kings with 47 points in the 2nd half. That's Gobert. Mitchell with 31 shots to get his. What a stud! :lol
Are you stupid enough to think 42 points on 31 shots is bad efficiency? :biggums:


65 points in the first half. That’s Gobert.

[Xiao Yao You]

Are you stupid enough to think 42 points on 31 shots is bad efficiency? :biggums:


65 points in the first half. That’s Gobert.

Yeah Rudy couldn't guard all 5 in the first half again. Scrub!

12-31 and 3-12 is horrible. But than I like passing and defense. Difference of opinion I guess

[RRR3]

Yeah Rudy couldn't guard all 5 in the first half again. Scrub!

12-31 and 3-12 is horrible. But than I like passing and defense. Difference of opinion I guess
12-13 is cancelled out (and then some) since he got to line 17 times and make 15 of them, you idiot. Why do you keep using FG% to measure efficiency? This isn’t 1997. You’re a Neanderthal.

[Xiao Yao You]

12-13 is cancelled out (and then some) since he got to line 17 times and make 15 of them, you idiot. Why do you keep using FG% to measure efficiency? This isn’t 1997. You’re a Neanderthal.

it's not cancelled out really since his teammates are standing around watching him iso and he plays no D. They are at their best when the ball is moving. Clarkson is out and he's gunning for both of them. It's gunning no matter what year it is. I didn't like AI doing it and I don't like Mitchell/Clarkson doing it either

[RRR3]

it's not cancelled out really since his teammates are standing around watching him iso and he plays no D. They are at their best when the ball is moving. Clarkson is out and he's gunning for both of them. It's gunning no matter what year it is. I didn't like AI doing it and I don't like Mitchell/Clarkson doing it either
Most fans would be happy if their first option scored 42 on 31 shots. Clarkson is what he is, a bench gunner, I’m not sure why you’re expecting him to suddenly change how he plays at 28

[Xiao Yao You]

Most fans would be happy if their first option scored 42 on 31 shots. Clarkson is what he is, a bench gunner, I’m not sure why you’re expecting him to suddenly change how he plays at 28

I guess most fans like that iso bullshit. I don't. It's a team sport. Don't expect Clarkson to change. Wish he wasn't on the team! There's hope for Mitchell but not much

[ArbitraryWater]

Xiao did u see the Lakers game?

Lube your ass for the 1R my man

early doors

[Manny98]

Yeah Rudy couldn't guard all 5 in the first half again. Scrub!

12-31 and 3-12 is horrible. But than I like passing and defense. Difference of opinion I guess
He couldn't guard one player let alone guarding 5 :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

He couldn't guard one player let alone guarding 5 :oldlol:

shut them down. Poor Manny. Another dominant performance by Gobert

[Manny98]

shut them down. Poor Manny. Another dominant performance by Gobert
Rudy had an outstanding 6 points and held Holmes to the best game of his career

Dominant for sure :lol

[LeCola]

shut them down. Poor Manny. Another dominant performance by Gobert

Dude, if it is a dominant performance, so what the hell is this?


https://youtu.be/X4Nzc-Mc-88

[RRR3]

shut them down. Poor Manny. Another dominant performance by Gobert
Dominant :yaohappy:

Holmes was getting buckets at will against Toody.

[RRR3]

A case study of Rudy Toody getting outplayed and/or downright abused


Versus the Nets: gives up 19/18 to Jarrett Allen on 8/9, including multiple plays where Allen sons him. Only manages 10/11 on 3/10, so Allen was killing him on both ends. Jazz lose.

Versus the Nuggets part 1: gets smoked by Jokic, who puts up 35/14/9 on 14-23.

Versus the Nuggets part 2: Jokic turns Toody into a flambéd escargot, putting up a ridiculous 47/12/5. Toody sobs uncontrollably in the locker room after being the main reason his team lost while Mitchell laughs at him.

Versus the Pistons: Gets outplayed by Mason frigging Plumlee who puts up 17/14 on 7/11. Toody manages a Kwame-like 9/7 on 2/4.

Versus the Bucks: gives up 23 points on 26 minutes to Brook Lopez.

Versus the Heat: gives up 19/11/7 on 7-14 to Bam Adebayo and loses.

Versus the Magic: gives up 34/8/4 to Vucevic who shoots 14-26.

Versus the Sixers: Sodomized by Joel Embiid who puts up 40/19/3 on 14-27 and defeats Toody in overtime.

Versus Raptors: gives up 27/5/9 to Siakam (playing center that game).

Versus Magic part 2: gives up 19/12 to Wendell Carter of all people.

Versus Mavericks: Assigned to Dorian Finney-Smith, who proceeds to drop a season high 23 on him. Jazz lose.

Versus Suns: Gives up 18/12 to Deandre Ayton. Jazz lose.

Versus Kings: somehow allows Richaun Holmes to score 25 on 10-13 shooting, including 21 on 8-8 in the first half.

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy had an outstanding 6 points and held Holmes to the best game of his career

Dominant for sure :lol

Shut your new fave Holmes and his teammates down in the 2nd half to lead his team to another home win. He can't be denied! :cheers:

[Xiao Yao You]

A case study of Rudy Toody getting outplayed and/or downright abused


Versus the Nets: gives up 19/18 to Jarrett Allen on 8/9, including multiple plays where Allen sons him. Only manages 10/11 on 3/10, so Allen was killing him on both ends. Jazz lose.

Versus the Nuggets part 1: gets smoked by Jokic, who puts up 35/14/9 on 14-23.

Versus the Nuggets part 2: Jokic turns Toody into a flambéd escargot, putting up a ridiculous 47/12/5. Toody sobs uncontrollably in the locker room after being the main reason his team lost while Mitchell laughs at him.

Versus the Pistons: Gets outplayed by Mason frigging Plumlee who puts up 17/14 on 7/11. Toody manages a Kwame-like 9/7 on 2/4.

Versus the Bucks: gives up 23 points on 26 minutes to Brook Lopez.

Versus the Heat: gives up 19/11/7 on 7-14 to Bam Adebayo and loses.

Versus the Magic: gives up 34/8/4 to Vucevic who shoots 14-26.

Versus the Sixers: Sodomized by Joel Embiid who puts up 40/19/3 on 14-27 and defeats Toody in overtime.

Versus Raptors: gives up 27/5/9 to Siakam (playing center that game).

Versus Magic part 2: gives up 19/12 to Wendell Carter of all people.

Versus Mavericks: Assigned to Dorian Finney-Smith, who proceeds to drop a season high 23 on him. Jazz lose.

Versus Suns: Gives up 18/12 to Deandre Ayton. Jazz lose.

Versus Kings: somehow allows Richaun Holmes to score 25 on 10-13 shooting, including 21 on 8-8 in the first half.

Sucks every game and yet some how he has the by far the best defensive stats in the league. :roll:

[RRR3]

Sucks every game and yet some how he has the by far the best defensive stats in the league. :roll:
Not every game, just the games I mentioned :cheers:

Certain centers give him the sweats. Especially Jokic who gives him night terrors.

[Xiao Yao You]

https://kslsports.com/457282/rudy-gobert-is-winning-games-not-matchups/

I know this will be over your heads!


Rudy Gobert Is Winning Games Not Matchups




The argument to be made that Gobert is the defensive player of the year is every other defensive metric that exists. Gobert is miles ahead of the rest of the league in ESPN’s Defensive Real Plus-Minus and FiveThirtyEight’s Defensive RAPTOR. He’s the NBA’s second-leading shot-blocker and rebounder, and he leads the NBA in total plus-minus largely due to his ability to stifle entire offenses on the defensive end of the floor.





But part of Gobert’s growth into a tw0-time Defensive Player of the Year with a shot at winning his third is his willingness to bypass winning his individual matchup for the betterment of the team overall.





“When we say winning the matchup, it’s that points, rebounds, that kind of stat line,” Jazz coach Quin Snyder said. “I think Rudy’s matchup is usually more complex than that.”




But look at the box score. It will tell you everything you need to know! :roll:


Gobert is the ultimate help defender in the league, tasked with shutting down shots in the paint for the Jazz while occasionally switching onto smaller defenders in specific scenarios.





Earlier this year Embiid scored 40 points and 19 rebounds in his matchup with Gobert, a sign for some fans of the Jazz center being overhyped. Though the head-to-head stats would tell you much of Embiid’s production came against other Jazz players, Gobert doesn’t seem as inclined to point that out as he may have earlier in his career.



18 points against Rudy at less than 50%


Similarly, Jokic scored 47 points, grabbed 12 rebounds, and dished out five assists against the Jazz this season. Again, Jokic got his start early in the game as the Jazz tried playing Gobert off the MVP front runner which allowed the big man to find his rhythm.




damn you for following the game plan and trying to help your teammates!


“For us, it’s all about going out there, competing, playing as a team, and doing it every single possession ever night,” Gobert said. “If we do that, we’ll see what happens.”





The Jazz lost the series, but not because of a discrepancy in the play between Gobert and Jokic.




someone gets that it's a team game I guess


“The maturation of any player is understanding the nuances of the game and what it takes to win as opposed to what it takes for you to have individual success on the stat line.”





and he's sure done a lot of winning this year despite being the worst player in the league according to RR3! :cheers:

[RRR3]

When did I say he’s the worst player in the league? Stop filling your diaper because not everyone is madly in love with that stiff like you are.

[Callystarr]

Are you stupid enough to think 42 points on 31 shots is bad efficiency? :biggums:


65 points in the first half. That’s Gobert.


He shot 12 of 31...thats horrible

[Xiao Yao You]

He shot 12 of 31...thats horrible

Come on that is very efficient! 2 out of the last 3 games it took him over 30 shots to get his numbers :facepalm

[RRR3]

He shot 12 of 31...thats horrible
Why are you using FG% like a caveman? 42 points on 31 shots is a good nights work.

[RRR3]

All Jazz fans on this site are retards apparently.

Can’t wait to watch Toody embarrass himself in the playoffs again and hear how it’s Mitchell’s fault that clumsy oaf has the offensive skills of a capybara and gets exposed on the perimeter.

[Xiao Yao You]

Why are you using FG% like a caveman? 42 points on 31 shots is a good nights work.

if they were all 3's it would be ok but they were mostly 2's. It sucks! Pass the ****in' ball!

[Xiao Yao You]

All Jazz fans on this site are retards apparently.

Can’t wait to watch Toody embarrass himself in the playoffs again and hear how it’s Mitchell’s fault that clumsy oaf has the offensive skills of a capybara and gets exposed on the perimeter.

pathetic life if that's what you look forward to

[RRR3]

if they were all 3's it would be ok but they were mostly 2's. It sucks! Pass the ****in' ball!
“Free throws don’t count”

-caveman Xiao

[Xiao Yao You]

“Free throws don’t count”

-caveman Xiao

sure free throws are great. Mitchell is finally getting to the line!

They show a couple of their favorite Mitchell drives here.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/04/11/triple-team-donovan

The best shooter in the league is wide open in the corner on one and he and Bojan open in the other. A wide open 3 or a lob is a better shot than a tough shot from Mitchell hoping the refs make a call.