Who was the best team that Team Jordan defeated in the playoffs and NBA Finals?

[Lebron23]

Just asking.

[8Ball]

I am not sure.

I would take 2012 OKC over any team Jordan beat. 3 MVPs on 1 team.

Unreal. Imagine Jordan having to face Shaq, David Robinson, and 3rd any other MVP.

I thought 2016 was the greatest championship ever but 2012 was the most difficult by far talent wise.

[Rysio]

Jazz. The only team that got to the finals more than once.

[Kiddlovesnets]

I am not sure.

I would take 2012 OKC over any team Jordan beat. 3 MVPs on 1 team.

Unreal. Imagine Jordan having to face Shaq, David Robinson, and Larry Bird all on the same team.

You are silly, the 1991 Lakers, 1993 Suns, 1996 Supersonics and 1997 Jazz were all better than that OKC team. The 1996 Supersonics could beat the 2018 Warriors in a 7 games series, they were forgotten just because they lost to MJ. Replace MJ by Lebron and the Supersonics would beat Lebron easily, and we will be hearing endless talk like the supersonics were a superteam that MJ couldnt beat.
:lol

[hateraid]

You are silly, the 1991 Lakers, 1993 Suns, 1996 Supersonics and 1997 Jazz were all better than that OKC team. The 1996 Supersonics could beat the 2018 Warriors in a 7 games series, they were forgotten just because they lost to MJ. Replace MJ by Lebron and the Supersonics would beat Lebron easily, and we will be hearing endless talk like the supersonics were a superteam that MJ couldnt beat.
:lol

The point of the thread went right over your head

[mehyaM24]

its between the 92 knicks, 92 blazers, 97 jazz and 98 pacers.

suns can be included, but they had injuries. had kj been healthy during that finals, phoenix just might've beat chicago.

[8Ball]

its between the 92 knicks, 92 blazers, 97 jazz and 98 pacers.

suns can be included, but they had injuries. had kj been healthy during that finals, phoenix just might've beat chicago.

If those 4 teams were the best teams LeBron ever beat I'd spit on LeBron's legacy and never defend it.


LeBron has 3 Mount Rushmore teams he has beaten:

- 2016 Dynasty Warriors - 73 wins
- 2013 Dynasty Spurs - Tim Duncan / Parker / Ginobilli / Kawhi Leonard (holy shit)
- 2012 3 MVP OKC (just reverse swept the 20-0 Spurs in WCF)

[mehyaM24]

If those 4 teams were the best teams LeBron ever beat I'd spit on LeBron's legacy and never defend it.


LeBron has 3 Mount Rushmore teams he has beaten:

- 2016 Dynasty Warriors - 73 wins
- 2013 Dynasty Spurs - Tim Duncan / Parker / Ginobilli / Kawhi Leonard (holy shit)
- 2012 3 MVP OKC (just reverse swept the 20-0 Spurs in WCF)

i don't know about all that, but lebron has definitely faced superior finals comp - no question.

[LoneyROY7]

You are silly, the 1991 Lakers, 1993 Suns, 1996 Supersonics and 1997 Jazz were all better than that OKC team. The 1996 Supersonics could beat the 2018 Warriors in a 7 games series, they were forgotten just because they lost to MJ. Replace MJ by Lebron and the Supersonics would beat Lebron easily, and we will be hearing endless talk like the supersonics were a superteam that MJ couldnt beat.
:lol

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[LAmbruh]

Anyone that says anything different than the Jazz is lying


The way they hyped up those Finals in 97 + 98 you would have thought Bulls were going up against Zeus himself with Salt Lake being Mt Olympus. :oldlol: Just same old trash bros 34yo Stockton and 35yo Malone, again


NBC was great at making fans feel like games vs those shitty Knicks was fate against the world



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjiKPNeB72E&t=9s

[8Ball]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I missed that.

2018 warriors would lose to a Gary Payton led team.

Lol.

[3ball]

.
Let's determine.this by looking at what Finals required the best Jordan performance:



1) both the Bulls/Suns averaged averaged exactly 106.7 ppg and 113.0 ortg in the 93' Finals, so every ounce of Jordan's 41/9/6 was needed.

2) 31/7/11 on 56% while guarding Magic (the mvp runner-up)

3) 36/7/6 while guarding Drexler (the mvp runner-up)

4) Jordan needed 3 game-winning plays to win the 97' Finals

5) Jordan needed the record clutch points to win in 1998.

6) In 1996, Jordan's 27 on 42% was sufficient to win in 6, while Lebron's 23 on 43% was insufficient through 6 and needed Ray Allen to force Game 7

[8Ball]

Phoenix Suns was the best team Jordan beat?

I put that on the same level as 2020 Miami Heat. :lol

One finals appearance wonder.

[Kiddlovesnets]

I missed that.

2018 warriors would lose to a Gary Payton led team.

Lol.

They would've lost to the Rockets if CP3 didnt go down with hamstring injury after game 5, that Rockets team was on par with the 96 Supersonics.

[AussieSteve]

It would have been the 93 Suns by a margin. Barkley was the best player MJ faced in the 90s and KJ was the best 2nd option. But as 3ball pointed out in another thread, KJ was injured and trash in the 93 playoffs and Barkley had an injured shooting elbow and was limited offensively outside the paint, while the Bulls were at full strength.

So as per usual, Pippen was a tier above anyone on the Suns outside of Barkley.

The Suns win in 93 if either KJ or Barkley were at full strength. If both were, they win easily. Even with them both injured, they still probably would have won game 7 if Paxon misses the 3 at the end of game 6.

[FultzNationRISE]

Jazz. The only team that got to the finals more than once.

Well, not technically true. Drexler’s Blazers made the finals in 90 and 92. MJ was the one who never managed to show up for the former contest.

[hateraid]

The best team was the Sonics.
The best individual was Barkley and broken pieces.
Not a very competitive era.

[Kiddlovesnets]

The best team was the Sonics.
The best individual was Barkley and broken pieces.
Not a very competitive era.

It would have been a highly competitive era if we replace MJ by Lebron, because Lebron ain’t as good as MJ and always loses in NBA finals. Suddenly teams like the Suns, SuperSonics and Jazz would have championship banners to hang at their stadiums, and lebronstans will rant how strong the 90s was and MJ wouldn’t have won if he played in this tough era.

On the other hand, if we replace Lebron by MJ in this era, he would keep dirk, Kawhi, Durant and Curry ringless, and the haters would talk shit about MJ how weak this 10s era is. What actually happens is that, an era can be competitive if no player was good enough to dominate.

[kawhileonard2]

The Bad Boys and Showtime the same year.

Beat both of them when they had better odds to win then the Bulls.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1991_preseason_odds.html

[AussieSteve]

It would have been a highly competitive era if we replace MJ by Lebron, because Lebron ain’t as good as MJ and always loses in NBA finals. Suddenly teams like the Suns, SuperSonics and Jazz would have championship banners to hang at their stadiums, and lebronstans will rant how strong the 90s was and MJ wouldn’t have won if he played in this tough era.

On the other hand, if we replace Lebron by MJ in this era, he would keep dirk, Kawhi, Durant and Curry ringless, and the haters would talk shit about MJ how weak this 10s era is. What actually happens is that, an era can be competitive if no player was good enough to dominate.

Because MJ and and Delly would have beaten the 15 warriors? MJ and whoever would have beaten the Durant, Curry, Klay, Dray warriors?

You're an idiot

[nayte]

Wow what an original thread with the same dumbass posters in it. This place used to be funny or at least the trolls tried harder. Pick it up U lot

[Lebron23]

Because MJ and and Delly would have beaten the 15 warriors? MJ and whoever would have beaten the Durant, Curry, Klay, Dray warriors?

You're an idiot

The guy is just a terrible poster. Hopefully the Nets fails to win a championship this year.

[Lebron23]

The best team was the Sonics.
The best individual was Barkley and broken pieces.
Not a very competitive era.

Broken down Bad Boy Pistons. And showtime Lakers without Kareem.

[kawhileonard2]

Broken down Bad Boy Pistons. And showtime Lakers without Kareem.

Lakers in 1991 was more proven than Spurs in 2013. Had won 3 years prior and been to the finals two years prior. Spurs hadn't won a title in 6 years. Imagine Bulls playing Boston in 1992 and saying they beat the Big 3 Celtics when they hadn't won since 1986.
Pistons won back to back and was in 3 finals in a row in a powerful era.

[Lebron23]

Lakers in 1991 was more proven than Spurs in 2013. Had won 3 years prior and been to the finals two years prior. Spurs hadn't won a title in 6 years. Imagine Bulls playing Boston in 1992 and saying they beat the Big 3 Celtics when they hadn't won since 1986.
Pistons won back to back and was in 3 finals in a row in a powerful era.

The Lakers aren't a legit championship contending team without Kareem. They overachieved in 1991, and even made it into the nba finals with Magic having an HIV.

[kawhileonard2]

The Lakers aren't a legit championship contending team without Kareem. They overachieved in 1991, and even made it into the nba finals with Magic having an HIV.

Had the best record in the league the year before and they were stacked with hall of famers galore in there primes. Magic, Worthy, Divac, and then you add in Byron Scott, A.C Green. Loaded.

Magic didn't have HIV until he played overseas in the summer.

[Lebron23]

The best team was the Sonics.
The best individual was Barkley and broken pieces.
Not a very competitive era.

That's they no.1 reason why MJ failed to win an NBA title in the 1980's. That era was very competitive. The early 80's sixers would win a couple of championship in the 1990's.

[welfarefan]

Wow what an original thread with the same dumbass posters in it. This place used to be funny or at least the trolls tried harder. Pick it up U lot

have you heard my covid-20 joke?

[8Ball]

They would've lost to the Rockets if CP3 didnt go down with hamstring injury after game 5, that Rockets team was on par with the 96 Supersonics.

Harden + CP3 are two players individually better than anybody on 96 supersonics.

Harden won MVP that year, what did anybody on supersonics ever accomplish individually?

Christ almighty what a weak era.

[8Ball]

The best team was the Sonics.
The best individual was Barkley and broken pieces.
Not a very competitive era.

Nobody can defend Jordan's finals competition.

2018 Houston with MVP Harden and CP3 is better than any team Jordan ever faced.

[Axe]

have you heard my covid-20 joke?
:milton