Bird said Woolridge was becoming star alongside MJ, so could MJ/Woolridge have won...

[3ball]

after expansion the spread the talent around more evenly in the 90's so 2-star teams could win (aka after the super-team 80's)??

[Xiao Yao You]

Woolridge was coked up. They sucked with Woolridge

[3ball]

Woolridge was coked up. They sucked with Woolridge


85' Woolridge destroys 88' or 89' Pippen..

He also had higher scoring, efficiency, PER and WS/48 than 90' Pippen

[Xiao Yao You]

85' Woolridge destroys 88' or 89' Pippen..

He also had higher scoring, efficiency, PER and WS/48 than 90' Pippen

Pippen was overrated and Woolridge should have been great but he was a waste. Was great off the bench later for the Lakers

[3ball]

Pippen was overrated and Woolridge should have been great but he was a waste. Was great off the bench later for the Lakers


The point is that MJ/Woolridge had no chance in the 80's when a super-team was required to win, but would've won in the 90's after expansion spread the talent around and allowed 2-star teams to win... ultimately, anyone wins alongside the goat in a 2-star vs 2-star format

[dankok8]

Woolridge was borderline better than MJ. I think if he didn't do as much coke... as in like still did coke but only after games and not during timeouts, the Bulls would have won 7 rings and Woolridge would have won all the Finals MVP's.

[3ball]

Woolridge was borderline better than MJ. I think if he didn't do as much coke... as in like still did coke but only after games and not during timeouts, the Bulls would have won 7 rings and Woolridge would have won all the Finals MVP's.


The point is that MJ/Woolridge had no chance in the 80's when a super-team was required to win, but would've won in the 90's after expansion spread the talent around and allowed 2-star teams to win... ultimately, anyone wins alongside the goat in a 2-star vs 2-star format

[FultzNationRISE]

"I just love it when we go up in the transition game, up and down the court, Magic (Johnson) looking for the open guy ... That's the way I love playing," said Woolridge about teammate Magic Johnson and the Lakers shortly after joining the team.

It’s obvious from these veiled shots that Woolridge didnt feel Mike brought out the competitive best in his teammates. MJ needed a Pippen to lead the team so he could focus on flashy highlights and “getting his” while still winning games.

MJ and Wooly wouldnt have worked any better in the 90s than they did in the 80s. No Pip, no chip.

[LAmbruh]

It’s obvious from these veiled shots that Woolridge didnt feel Mike brought out the competitive best in his teammates. MJ needed a Pippen to lead the team so he could focus on flashy highlights and “getting his” while still winning games.

MJ and Wooly wouldnt have worked any better in the 90s than they did in the 80s. No Pip, no chip.this

[Xiao Yao You]

The point is that MJ/Woolridge had no chance in the 80's when a super-team was required to win, but would've won in the 90's after expansion spread the talent around and allowed 2-star teams to win... ultimately, anyone wins alongside the goat in a 2-star vs 2-star format

They had no chance with Woolridge which is why he wasn't around for long. Woolridge wasn't a star and MJ still had a lot to learn

[3ball]

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Pippen vs Reggie Lewis as #1 options in the playoffs


92' LEWIS..... 28/4/4.. 57.0 ts.. 23.8 PER.. 0.177 ws.. 4.1 dbpm.. 2.6 obpm.. 6.8 bpm.. 0.9 vorp
94' PIPPEN... 23/8/5.. 52.1 ts.. 22.8 PER.. 0.149 ws.. 4.0 dbpm.. 1.6 obpm.. 5.6 bpm.. 0.7 vorp



They had no chance with Woolridge which is why he wasn't around for long. Woolridge wasn't a star and MJ still had a lot to learn


Woolridge was a lot like Richard Dumas, Reggie Lewis, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill or Kemp - superior talents to Pippen, but taken down by drugs, alcohol or injury

Pippen was simply the low-producing bum that won the "3-peat with MJ" lottery.. anyone wins alongside the goat in a 2-star vs 2-star format

[Hey Yo]

The point is that MJ/Woolridge had no chance in the 80's when a super-team was required to win, but would've won in the 90's after expansion spread the talent around and allowed 2-star teams to win... ultimately, anyone wins alongside the goat in a 2-star vs 2-star format

The Pistons weren't a superteam.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Wooldridge was top 3 in total minutes played in the 1985-86 season.

Bulls defense Rtg: 112.4 (23rd of 23)

There's your answer right there. A 6"9 Lou Williams as your sidekick isn't going to win you shit.

[FultzNationRISE]

Wooldridge was top 3 in total minutes played in the 1985-86 season.

Bulls defense Rtg: 112.4 (23rd of 23)

There's your answer right there. A 6"9 Lou Williams as your sidekick isn't going to win you shit.

Exactly. And MJ wasnt even 6’9, more like 6’5 if measured honestly.

[3ball]

The Pistons weren't a superteam.


And that's why MJ almost beat them as a 1-man team

The 90' Bulls had the #19 defense and a worse offensive sidekick than 05' Zydrunas (worse scoring, efficiency, PER, WS/48)

Ultimately, prime lebron needed a much better cast than the 05' Cavs to be title-worthy, whereas 90' Jordan nearly won the title with a worse cast than the 05' Cavs (worse team defense and worse offensive sidekick, aka scoring, efficiency, PER, WS/48)

[hateraid]

Could Woolridge play with MJ?

Here's the answer:

05' Zydrunas.... 17/9 and 2.1 blocks.. 19.5 PER.. 0.149 WS/48.. #12 defense.. lottery
90' Pippen........ 16/7 and 1.2 blocks.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. #19 defense.. nearly won title

Thats all you need to know

[Xiao Yao You]

Wooldridge was top 3 in total minutes played in the 1985-86 season.

Bulls defense Rtg: 112.4 (23rd of 23)

There's your answer right there. A 6"9 Lou Williams as your sidekick isn't going to win you shit.

Lou Williams doesn't have a coke problem

[Hey Yo]

And that's why MJ almost beat them as a 1-man team

The 90' Bulls had the #19 defense and a worse offensive sidekick than 05' Zydrunas (worse scoring, efficiency, PER, WS/48)

Ultimately, prime lebron needed a much better cast than the 05' Cavs to be title-worthy, whereas 90' Jordan nearly won the title with a worse cast than the 05' Cavs (worse team defense and worse offensive sidekick, aka scoring, efficiency, PER, WS/48)

A 1- man team???

1989 ECF.... the series tied at 2 and a 1pt game after 3 quarters. How was that the case with MJ only taking 5 FGA through 3?

[3ball]

A 1- man team???

1989 ECF.... the series tied at 2 and a 1pt game after 3 quarters. How was that the case with MJ only taking 5 FGA through 3?


Jordan lacked a sidekick that could complete a series, since his sidekick quit the last 2 games of the 89' ECF (after it was tied 2-2), and then quit in 90' when it was tied 3-3

[AirBonner]

Woolridge was a better Pippen and MJ could capitalize on that

[SouBeachTalents]

Jordan lacked a sidekick that could complete a series, since his sidekick quit the last 2 games of the 89' ECF (after it was tied 2-2), and then quit in 90' when it was tied 3-3
But I thought Jordan didn't need a good sidekick to win titles, haven't you posted tens of thousands of times about how garbage Pippen was and how Jordan carried him every playoffs? Why would pre '91 be any different?

[JohnMax]

Who do you hate more, Pippen or Lebron?

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after expansion the spread the talent around more evenly in the 90's so 2-star teams could win (aka after the super-team 80's)??

No, because Woolridge sucked.

[AussieSteve]

I love it how 3ball always talks about the "2 star format" of the 90s, when he along with everyone else knows that the Bulls were one of only a couple of teams with 2 genuine stars... i.e. 2 perennial All NBA players.

On other teams, a player only needs to have scored 20ppg in a playoff series or two to be given 3ball's star seal of approval.

[SouBeachTalents]

I love it how 3ball always talks about the "2 star format" of the 90s, when he along with everyone else knows that the Bulls were one of only a couple of teams with 2 genuine stars... i.e. 2 perennial All NBA players.

On other teams, a player only needs to have scored 20ppg in a playoff series or two to be given 3ball's star seal of approval.
And ppg & efficiency is the ONLY way to judge a player :lol Defense doesn't even matter

[Sulico]

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Pippen vs Reggie Lewis as #1 options in the playoffs


92' LEWIS..... 28/4/4.. 57.0 ts.. 23.8 PER.. 0.177 ws.. 4.1 dbpm.. 2.6 obpm.. 6.8 bpm.. 0.9 vorp
94' PIPPEN... 23/8/5.. 52.1 ts.. 22.8 PER.. 0.149 ws.. 4.0 dbpm.. 1.6 obpm.. 5.6 bpm.. 0.7 vorp





Woolridge was a lot like Richard Dumas, Reggie Lewis, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill or Kemp - superior talents to Pippen, but taken down by drugs, alcohol or injury

Pippen was simply the low-producing bum that won the "3-peat with MJ" lottery.. anyone wins alongside the goat in a 2-star vs 2-star format

Lebron vs Jordan as #1 options in the playoffs

1992' JORDAN... 34/6/6.. 57.1 ts.. 27.2 PER.. 0.216 ws.. 8.3 obpm.. 1.6 dbpm.. 9.9 bpm.. 2.8vorp
2009 LEBRON... 35/9/7.. 61.8 ts.. 37.4 PER.. 0.399 ws.. 12.8 obpm.. 4.8 dbpm.. 17.5 bpm.. 2.9 vorp

[AirBonner]

Lebron vs Jordan as #1 options in the playoffs

1992' JORDAN... 34/6/6.. 57.1 ts.. 27.2 PER.. 0.216 ws.. 8.3 obpm.. 1.6 dbpm.. 9.9 bpm.. 2.8vorp
2009 LEBRON... 35/9/7.. 61.8 ts.. 37.4 PER.. 0.399 ws.. 12.8 obpm.. 4.8 dbpm.. 17.5 bpm.. 2.9 vorp
Thread over.

[tpols]

Lebron vs Jordan as #1 options in the playoffs

1992' JORDAN... 34/6/6.. 57.1 ts.. 27.2 PER.. 0.216 ws.. 8.3 obpm.. 1.6 dbpm.. 9.9 bpm.. 2.8vorp
2009 LEBRON... 35/9/7.. 61.8 ts.. 37.4 PER.. 0.399 ws.. 12.8 obpm.. 4.8 dbpm.. 17.5 bpm.. 2.9 vorp

The difference being MJ won the title in dominant fashion and LeBron with HCA got beat by Dwight lol

[jayfan]

85' Woolridge destroys 88' or 89' Pippen..

He also had higher scoring, efficiency, PER and WS/48 than 90' Pippen


Yeah, Woolridge was a bad man. Squandered his full potential.


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[8Ball]

Lebron vs Jordan as #1 options in the playoffs

1992' JORDAN... 34/6/6.. 57.1 ts.. 27.2 PER.. 0.216 ws.. 8.3 obpm.. 1.6 dbpm.. 9.9 bpm.. 2.8vorp
2009 LEBRON... 35/9/7.. 61.8 ts.. 37.4 PER.. 0.399 ws.. 12.8 obpm.. 4.8 dbpm.. 17.5 bpm.. 2.9 vorp

High IQ post.

[TheCorporation]

It’s obvious from these veiled shots that Woolridge didnt feel Mike brought out the competitive best in his teammates. MJ needed a Pippen to lead the team so he could focus on flashy highlights and “getting his” while still winning games.

MJ and Wooly wouldnt have worked any better in the 90s than they did in the 80s. No Pip, no chip.

Imagine that. Players dont want to play with a low IQ chucker that cant pass

[sdot_thadon]

Screw MJ and Woolridge, we've already seen that lotto team....imagine Woolridge and Pippen, the potential....

[Sulico]

The difference being MJ won the title in dominant fashion and LeBron with HCA got beat by Dwight lol

Oh really? So you have to take context into account and not just post small sample cherry picked stats? Who would have thought...