It's been determined why Curry isn't capable of hitting clutch Finals shots

[3ball]

It's true that he might be the goat 3-point shooter with wonderful ability to pull-up via step-backs and similar more stationary live-dribble moves, but these moves require more space - ultimately, he isn't the goat jumpshooter because he lacks great ability to pull-up off a hard dribble (shown here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y&t=10m26s) and here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y&t=11m00s)), which overcomes greater contests and requires elevating/shooting in a way that Curry and all of today's 3-point shooters lack great ability to do.

This is why Michael Jordan, the goat jumpshooter off a hard dribble of all-time (goat elevation, square-up and form), would be the goat 3-point shooter in today's game - he would be shooting contested pull-up threes off a hard dribble as a standard, just like he did 2-pointers, which would make him the standard of 3-point shooting - his "fadeaway" is already the standard of jumpshooting skill and he would do this from 3-point range in today's era.

[Gray GOAT]

Michael Jordan got schooled by an investment banker.

[Stephonit]

3ball now firing on Curry. He's coming to realize who the real threat is.

[8Ball]

Warriorfan get in here and get your boy :lol

[Gray GOAT]

3ball now firing on Curry. He's coming to realize who the real threat is.

Kids' Choice Awards do hold a higher weight than an MVP in the 80's or the 90's, that much is true.

[Stanley Kobrick]

It's true that he might be the goat 3-point shooter with wonderful ability to pull-up via step-backs and similar more stationary live-dribble moves, but these moves require more space - ultimately, he isn't the goat jumpshooter because he lacks great ability to pull-up off a hard dribble (shown here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y&t=10m26s) and here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y&t=11m00s)), which overcomes greater contests and requires elevating/shooting in a way that Curry and all of today's 3-point shooters lack great ability to do.

This is why Michael Jordan, the goat jumpshooter off a hard dribble of all-time (goat elevation, square-up and form), would be the goat 3-point shooter in today's game - he would be shooting contested pull-up threes off a hard dribble as a standard, just like he did 2-pointers, which would make him the standard of 3-point shooting - his "fadeaway" is already the standard of jumpshooting skill and he would do this from 3-point range in today's era.
very interesting analysists

[Stanley Kobrick]

Kids' Choice Awards do hold a higher weight than an MVP in the 80's or the 90's, that much is true.
:cheers:

[Gohan]

Kids' Choice Awards do hold a higher weight than an MVP in the 80's or the 90's, that much is true.

Lmao it holds more weight than finals mvp too. Billsucks got one. Enough proof for me

[Axe]

Lmao it holds more weight than finals mvp too. Billsucks got one. Enough proof for me
Nani?

[SATAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1OoMJb3kM

[3ball]

Bump

[And1AllDay]

Warriorfan get in here and get your boy :lol

he actually loves his abuser


watch him come to his side and protect him like a hoe

[3ball]

he actually loves his abuser


watch him come to his side and protect him like a hoe


You saw KD just now - that was off a HARD DRIBBLE, aka jordan style

All curry has is that step-back shit - needs to be more open (it isn't elevating like the KD shot)

[And1AllDay]

You saw KD just now - that was off a HARD DRIBBLE, aka jordan style

All curry has is that step-back shit - needs to be more open (it isn't elevating like the KD shot)

sounds like this could need a update

https://i.postimg.cc/CLKTMhjW/j4byroq2z5231.jpg

3 for 14 using kd/jordan style :applause: nice

[3ball]

sounds like this could need a update

https://i.postimg.cc/CLKTMhjW/j4byroq2z5231.jpg

3 for 14 using kd/jordan style :applause: nice


TLDR: down the stretch of tight games (last 5 minutes within 5 points), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts per game for his career (04-19'), compared 47% on 3.6 attempts for old MJ in 97' and 98'.. So MJ shot much better in the clutch with far more attempts (20% larger clutch load/attempts).


CLUTCH - Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001



134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


42-89 for Jordan.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game

Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)


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^^^^ And 0-8 in the championship for Lebron, compared to 4-8 for Jordan




Series are often decided over a few possessions - Lebron loses those possessions



2009 ECF - laid a massive egg in the critical Game 4 OT that swung the series, and lost 2 other 4th quarter leads in the series

2010 ECSF - didn't score in the last 6 minutes of the series-turning Game 4, while Rondo completely took over and beat Lebron by himself

2011 Finals - nuff said.. a record zero clutch points in the entire series (last 5 within 5)

2017 Finals - Cavs led 113-109 with 1:30 left in Game 3, and that's when KD scored the last 7 points to win the game, while Lebron bricked and deferred down the stretch.

2018 Finals - deferred on the last possession despite having a massive mismatch himself against Curry - then he was scoreless in OT (melted down after adversity with JR)



BAILOUTS - teammates saved the team from losing series after a Lebron choke



2013 Finals - missed the critical shot, so Ray Allen hit it

2016 Finals - scoreless down the stretch, so Kyrie saved him



Btw, I didn't include the 2015 Finals where Lebron had zero points in the 4th quarter of critical Game 4 to lose a winnable game (only down 6 heading into 4th).. I didn't include it because Lebron was a big underdog without star teammates.

[Shooter]

TLDR: down the stretch of tight games (last 5 minutes within 5 points), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts per game for his career (04-19'), compared 47% on 3.6 attempts for old MJ in 97' and 98'.. So MJ shot much better in the clutch with far more attempts (20% larger clutch load/attempts).


CLUTCH - Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001



134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


42-89 for Jordan.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game

Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)


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^^^^ And 0-8 in the championship for Lebron, compared to 4-8 for Jordan




Series are often decided over a few possessions - Lebron loses those possessions



2009 ECF - laid a massive egg in the critical Game 4 OT that swung the series, and lost 2 other 4th quarter leads in the series

2010 ECSF - didn't score in the last 6 minutes of the series-turning Game 4, while Rondo completely took over and beat Lebron by himself

2011 Finals - nuff said.. a record zero clutch points in the entire series (last 5 within 5)

2017 Finals - Cavs led 113-109 with 1:30 left in Game 3, and that's when KD scored the last 7 points to win the game, while Lebron bricked and deferred down the stretch.

2018 Finals - deferred on the last possession despite having a massive mismatch himself against Curry - then he was scoreless in OT (melted down after adversity with JR)



BAILOUTS - teammates saved the team from losing series after a Lebron choke



2013 Finals - missed the critical shot, so Ray Allen hit it

2016 Finals - scoreless down the stretch, so Kyrie saved him



Btw, I didn't include the 2015 Finals where Lebron had zero points in the 4th quarter of critical Game 4 to lose a winnable game (only down 6 heading into 4th).. I didn't include it because Lebron was a big underdog without star teammates.

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[3ball]

Fake info





Yours is.

Mine is linked to source

Lebron isn't clutch because he lacks elite jumpshooting skill... He's 0-8 in the Finals clutch shots

[Mr.GOAT2408]

LeBron is only good at making shots with like 5-10 seconds left because he's dogshit for most of the last 2-5 minutes in the clutch, it's just regression if we're being honest. Jordan stayed clutch the entire 5 minutes though

Steph isn't that guy either, I see little kids put him on a level he isn't even close to being in