Pfizer CEO referring crazy conspiracy theories

[ZenMaster]

Wasn't this kind of talk considered conspiracy theories just a short while ago?


Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said people will “likely” need a booster dose of a Covid-19 vaccine within 12 months of getting fully vaccinated. His comments were made public Thursday but were taped April 1.

Bourla said it’s possible people will need to get vaccinated against the coronavirus annually.

“A likely scenario is that there will be likely a need for a third dose, somewhere between six and 12 months and then from there, there will be an annual revaccination, but all of that needs to be confirmed. And again, the variants will play a key role,” he told CNBC’s Bertha Coombs during an event with CVS Health.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html

[FultzNationRISE]

The people who were slower on the uptake are going to start moving from the denial to the anger stage. Not about Covid. But about being wrong.

A couple recent examples from the corona thread:


Honestly how mentally weak do you have to be to actually fear a mask? Like wearing one or seeing people with a mask on will actually have a psychological affect? Is that why I dont see any issues with a mask but some people do? I just dont get it and I never will.



Well, your alternative is idiotic. Your alternate is "it's a fake conspiracy. Vaccines have trackers in them. Covid is just a cold." You are a complete idiot who is taken in by all the conspiracy talks that has put you down the conspiracy rabbit hole. You are now just jumping from conspiracy to conspiracy.

As it comes to pass they can no longer deny they were played for fools, they will turn angry. However, they wont turn angry at the people who conned them, because that would be an open admission of error. They will turn increasingly angry at “the messenger.” Anyone who continues to remind them they were among those who got it wrong.

Expect increasingly animated hostility, used to “mask” (pun lol) inadequacy and insecurity. In other words, expect 60% of the population to turn into ItsMillerTime (moreso than they already are).

The stage after anger is bargaining. Plebs may look for new compromises with smarter people which they can all agree on, making it less obvious theyre the pleb class. Something to that effect. Altho thats still a lil ways off I reckon.

Exciting times.

[FultzNationRISE]

Ofc if you dont believe me, you can just ask The Great Resetter himself.


https://youtu.be/LJTnkzl3K64

[Doomsday Dallas]

idk if that was conspiracy talk... I've pretty much ignored everything Covid related the past several months, except for the headlines.


One headline I did find find interesting is that Johnson & Johnson put their vaccine on hold... why? If it's so damn safe, why the pause? (i didn't bother reading the reasons why, just thought that was kind of ironic considering the amount of pressure that's been put on everybody to hurry up and get vaccinated... here we have Johnson & Johnson putting their vax on hold. Hmmmm.)

[Stanley Kobrick]

These are for sheeple who didn't get the Premium Vaccine Edition with all expansion packs. I received the Moderna Vaccine of the Year Edition with all the DLC's + Season Pass

[Axe]

These are for sheeple who didn't get the Premium Vaccine Edition with all expansion packs. I received the Moderna Vaccine of the Year Edition with all the DLC's + Season Pass
:cheers:

It would be impressive if it's a case you got more for less.

[highwhey]

These are for sheeple who didn't get the Premium Vaccine Edition with all expansion packs. I received the Moderna Vaccine of the Year Edition with all the DLC's + Season Pass

:roll:

[scuzzy]

Makes sense, how else are we going to get the microchip 1.1 update


Soon we'll be plugging our earlobes into USB 5.0 jacks


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[SATAN]

Wasn't this kind of talk considered conspiracy theories just a short while ago?



By who? Thread title doesn't make sense, unless you're referring to a certain poster or something.

[Stanley Kobrick]

:cheers:

It would be impressive if it's a case you got more for less.
Premium Blue Cross Coverage :cheers:

[bladefd]

Wasn't this kind of talk considered conspiracy theories just a short while ago?



https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html

How is that a conspiracy theory? We have known of couple of variants since December 2020 and that a booster would be necessary protection for the variants.

Annual revaccination depends on how long the coverage drops after 12 months. I already brought it up couple weeks back. We don't know - nobody knows - because a year has not passed since the covid vaccine trials. Wait for the 1yr studies to provide the data from those who got these vaccines a year ago.


I read somewhere that after 6 months, either moderna or pfizer's effectiveness went down to 91% from initial 95%.

I don't know if it's a linear dropoff or if the dropoff tapers off after a year. We won't know for sure until this summer when they can check the effectiveness dropoff after 1yr in the trial patients from last summer. If it's a linear dropoff then you might need a booster every 5yrs. If the dropoff tapers off then you might be okay for several decades with just the initial 2 doses. If you reach herd immunity then you might kill off the virus enough that you can go couple decades without a booster necessary, but hard to be sure if we will reach herd immunity with idiots like manny and pattychew running around and several different strains out there.

It doesn't seem quite as effective as measles vaccine, which never drops off. Once you get measles vaccine, you have like 98% effectiveness for rest of your life.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492025-Requirement-to-get-the-vaccine&p=14287410&viewfull=1#post14287410

[n00bie]

The people who were slower on the uptake are going to start moving from the denial to the anger stage. Not about Covid. But about being wrong.

A couple recent examples from the corona thread:





As it comes to pass they can no longer deny they were played for fools, they will turn angry. However, they wont turn angry at the people who conned them, because that would be an open admission of error. They will turn increasingly angry at “the messenger.” Anyone who continues to remind them they were among those who got it wrong.

Expect increasingly animated hostility, used to “mask” (pun lol) inadequacy and insecurity. In other words, expect 60% of the population to turn into ItsMillerTime (moreso than they already are).

The stage after anger is bargaining. Plebs may look for new compromises with smarter people which they can all agree on, making it less obvious theyre the pleb class. Something to that effect. Altho thats still a lil ways off I reckon.

Exciting times.

You're insane.

[ZenMaster]

How is that a conspiracy theory? We have known of couple of variants since December 2020 and that a booster would be necessary protection for the variants.

Annual revaccination depends on how long the coverage drops after 12 months. I already brought it up couple weeks back. We don't know - nobody knows - because a year has not passed since the covid vaccine trials. Wait for the 1yr studies to provide the data from those who got these vaccines a year ago.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492025-Requirement-to-get-the-vaccine&p=14287410&viewfull=1#post14287410

It's not, but if you said a year ago that it'll end up with forced yearly vaccinations, either by law or manufactured social pressure through the constant scare campaign where no government ever did anything to not report inflated death numbers, then you were deemed a conspiracy theorist.

For many other things that turned out to be true, people were and are called conspiracy theorist as well, just look at this post from yesterday: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492234-People-who-use-the-term-quot-critical-thinking-quot&p=14294212&viewfull=1#post14294212

Various country leaders and Fauci like people have used this line or similar over the past week that "when everyone over 16 has been vaccinated, we still can't know what mutations will come and so we might have still have to wear masks".

Right now, anyone who'd like to decline the vaccine at this point in time is deemed an anti vaxxer. It's the same tactic as calling people conspiracy theorists for anything you don't like, isolating and shaming people.

[FultzNationRISE]

It's not, but if you said a year ago that it'll end up with forced yearly vaccinations, either by law or manufactured social pressure through the constant scare campaign where no government ever did anything to not report inflated death numbers, then you were deemed a conspiracy theorist.

For many other things that turned out to be true, people were and are called conspiracy theorist as well, just look at this post from yesterday: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492234-People-who-use-the-term-quot-critical-thinking-quot&p=14294212&viewfull=1#post14294212

Various country leaders and Fauci like people have used this line or similar over the past week that "when everyone over 16 has been vaccinated, we still can't know what mutations will come and so we might have still have to wear masks".

Right now, anyone who'd like to decline the vaccine at this point in time is deemed an anti vaxxer. It's the same tactic as calling people conspiracy theorists for anything you don't like, isolating and shaming people.


Tolerant and progressive.

[tpols]

"Annual re-vaccination"

I thought this was just 6 months with masks and social distancing? Now everybody will be forced to take annual shots for a virus with a 99.9% survival rate? And provide proof of vaccination before entering any general public venue including work? So people can't even get a job or go anywhere without their cert being scanned from their phone. This is where were headed.

[GrayGoat]

This is no different then a flu shot.

[FultzNationRISE]

"Annual re-vaccination"

I thought this was just 6 months with masks and social distancing? Now everybody will be forced to take annual shots for a virus with a 99.9% survival rate? And provide proof of vaccination before entering any general public venue including work? So people can't even get a job or go anywhere without their cert being scanned from their phone. This is where were headed.


It’s only the beginning baby


https://youtu.be/kpW9JcWxKq0


https://youtu.be/7xUk1F7dyvI


These are the beginning steps of intertwining man and machine, and establishing dominion over all of nature. “On Earth as it is in Heaven.”

It’s kind of exciting, just unfortunate theres too many mask nazi simpletons who have to be prodded with scare tactics, which they overzealously seek to enforce on others when that isnt what this is about at all.

[welfarefan]

Imagine getting an annual vaccine shot, like the flu shot. YIKES Stripping of us of our liberties :roll:

[Stanley Kobrick]

Once LGBT were given privilege's to choose other as gender on gmail it was the beginning of the end. pack the bunker with toilet paper, one step closer to man = cyborg and inevitably doomsday. first steps to LGBT one world order prepare yourselves, this is it folks

[welfarefan]

Once LGBT were given privilege's to choose other as gender on gmail it was the beginning of the end. pack the bunker with toilet paper, one step closer to man = cyborg and inevitably doomsday. first steps to LGBT one world order prepare yourselves, this is it folks

imagine listening to those brain dead Liberals fear mongering. :oldlol: yikes, how's that micro chip working out for ya sheep? hows those braces and GPS contact lenses? one step closer to wolverine, let me know how those scare tactics are going for ya :roll:

[Stanley Kobrick]

imagine listening to those brain dead Liberals fear mongering. :oldlol: yikes, how's that micro chip working out for ya sheep? hows those braces and GPS contact lenses? one step closer to wolverine, let me know how those scare tactics are going for ya :roll:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlCC1GOwFw

[bladefd]

It's not, but if you said a year ago that it'll end up with forced yearly vaccinations, either by law or manufactured social pressure through the constant scare campaign where no government ever did anything to not report inflated death numbers, then you were deemed a conspiracy theorist.

For many other things that turned out to be true, people were and are called conspiracy theorist as well, just look at this post from yesterday: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492234-People-who-use-the-term-quot-critical-thinking-quot&p=14294212&viewfull=1#post14294212

Various country leaders and Fauci like people have used this line or similar over the past week that "when everyone over 16 has been vaccinated, we still can't know what mutations will come and so we might have still have to wear masks".

Right now, anyone who'd like to decline the vaccine at this point in time is deemed an anti vaxxer. It's the same tactic as calling people conspiracy theorists for anything you don't like, isolating and shaming people.

We don't know how much protection from the vaccine will drop annually. It hasn't even been a year yet to check. If it still has protection in the 70/80 percentile after a year, you are probably okay not getting it every year.

The law does not require a vaccine. I don't think any country legally requires it. I don't think frontline workers, who need it the most, are required to get the vaccine. They are recommended by CDC but not required. Fauci can say stuff but he can't force people to get a vaccine.

[ZenMaster]

We don't know how much protection from the vaccine will drop annually. It hasn't even been a year yet to check. If it still has protection in the 70/80 percentile after a year, you are probably okay not getting it every year.

The law does not require a vaccine. I don't think any country legally requires it. I don't think frontline workers, who need it the most, are required to get the vaccine. They are recommended by CDC but not required. Fauci can say stuff but he can't force people to get a vaccine.

You must have missed the part in my post about manufactured social pressure and the fact that no one has done anything at all not to report inflated death numbers.

Fact is there's been a grand scale media campaign which has been sure to keep people scared, very simply put it works like this:

1) Fauci and other health care people will talk about what we don't know, same as how your post start..

2) Media reports on various uncompleted studies, which suggest that something might be happening. Examples: Covid lingering in the air for who knows how long when people breathe it out. Covid sitting on surfaces for who knows how long.

3) Twitter bots pump out information about how covid needs to be fought by taking the most steep measures, inducing people to express the same opinion and shame others who question it.

4) Various government officials, both federal and local, then insists we have to take the most steep measures to combat what might happen.

The studies turn out not to be true, but the fear remains and so do the measures taken, going all the way back to the "4% death rate" which was the foundation for it all.

[SATAN]

You must have missed the part in my post about manufactured social pressure and the fact that no one has done anything at all not to report inflated death numbers.



Absolute nonsense. Stopped there.

[ZenMaster]

Absolute nonsense. Stopped there.


https://youtu.be/CAcnSN-ObnM

[Manny98]

It's not a conspiracy, people are dying left,right and center since the vaccine has been administered

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ3w3mDc/2590117.jpg

[keep-itreal]

Imagine being a loser like a bladef@g defending billion dollars pharmaceutical corporations who couldn't care less if people died from their products.

Shove that vaccine up your ass if love it so much, you dumbass liberal f@ggots:oldlol:

[Manny98]

Imagine being a loser like a bladef@g defending billion dollars pharmaceutical corporations who couldn't care less if people died from their products.

Shove that vaccine up your ass if love it so much, you dumbass liberal f@ggots:oldlol:
People like Blade is why countries like Canada and the US are turning into a authoritarian police state

He's the biggest sheep on here and has the nerve to call other people retarded :facepalm

[bladefd]

Imagine being a loser like a bladef@g defending billion dollars pharmaceutical corporations who couldn't care less if people died from their products.

Shove that vaccine up your ass if love it so much, you dumbass liberal f@ggots:oldlol:

Defending pharmaceutical corporations? Where? Highlight that part for me in my posts where I'm defending a pharmaceutical corporation.

[Code Breaker]

These are for sheeple who didn't get the Premium Vaccine Edition with all expansion packs. I received the Moderna Vaccine of the Year Edition with all the DLC's + Season Pass

:roll:

[warriorfan]

It's not a conspiracy, people are dying left,right and center since the vaccine has been administered

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ3w3mDc/2590117.jpg

:roll:

We should shut down the country again until we can figure out why old people are dying.

[FultzNationRISE]

:roll:

We should shut down the country again until we can figure out why old people are dying.


Be wild if the plan all along was to knock off old people by pretending covid was dangerous, so theyd go out and voluntarily take the “cure” which actually kills them :lol

6-D chess.

[Stanley Kobrick]

It's not a conspiracy, people are dying left,right and center since the vaccine has been administered

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ3w3mDc/2590117.jpg

even the truthers over at /r/conspiracy debunked this one quick :(

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/mspdo5/according_to_the_cdcs_website_unexplained_deaths/
https://i.postimg.cc/vZNJykqL/ghjkdgjkjk.jpg


but I guess that's where were at now, pulling graphs off conspiracy subs and 4chan :ohwell: the usual caveman IQ's sprinted to it quick too, whoops another faceplant :(

[welfarefan]

even the truthers over at /r/conspiracy debunked this one quick

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/mspdo5/according_to_the_cdcs_website_unexplained_deaths/
https://i.postimg.cc/vZNJykqL/ghjkdgjkjk.jpg


but I guess that's where were at now, pulling graphs off conspiracy subs and 4chan :ohwell: the usual caveman IQ's sprinted to it quick too, whoops another faceplant :(
We should probably start taking a vaccine for a contagious virus that only have a 1% of death every time you get it. Let that sink in :roll:

[Axe]

Can't believe these vaccines aren't banned yet until now. The same thing should go for cigarettes and junk foods as well.

[Manny98]

Can't believe these vaccines aren't banned yet until now. The same thing should go for cigarettes and junk foods as well.
The difference is that with junk food and cigarettes you know what you're getting from them and no one is threatening to take away your liberties if you don't take them

[Stanley Kobrick]

The difference is that with junk food and cigarettes you know what you're getting from them and no one is threatening to take away your liberties if you don't take them
Pretty sure laws were recently established not allowing indoors smoking in most places, and in cars with children, among many other regulations. Smokers aren't even allowed in the store, just think you're only asked to wear a simple cloth over your mouth

Plus there's the little difference where obesity and lung cancer isn't contagious, ya know it's a choice :ohwell:

[scuzzy]

Pretty sure laws were recently established not allowing indoors smoking in most places, and in cars with children, among many other regulations. Smokers aren't even allowed in the store, just think you're only asked to wear a simple cloth over your mouth

Plus there's the little difference where obesity and lung cancer isn't contagious, ya know it's a choice :ohwell:
I was just on a plane that still had those small flip up ash trays in the arm rests.


Imagine suffocating on a plane to cig smoke, this was a plane built in the 90's

[Manny98]

Pretty sure laws were recently established not allowing indoors smoking in most places, and in cars with children, among many other regulations. Smokers aren't even allowed in the store, just think you're only asked to wear a simple cloth over your mouth

Plus there's the little difference where obesity and lung cancer isn't contagious, ya know it's a choice :ohwell:
Flu is contagious as well so by your logic we should all be forced to take vaccines for that as well because it's so contagious

[Stanley Kobrick]

Flu is contagious as well so by your logic we should all be forced to take vaccines for that as well because it's so contagious
Except no one is forced vaccines, just more weird fear mongering Emanuel. But it would be mask up if it killed 600k Americans per year. Probably more since this was just the first year, probably a million Americans a year now that it's ramped up statewide.

Interesting how you just ignored that reddit page, why are you pulling graphs off conspiracy sites? Looks like you're just searching for reasons to complain about anything.

[welfarefan]

Just wait to they ban cars and us from driving, legit hella funny how nobody cares about auto accident deaths anymore. More scare tactics from libs and Elon Musk. Let that sink in :roll:

[Axe]

The difference is that with junk food and cigarettes you know what you're getting from them and no one is threatening to take away your liberties if you don't take them
I know but for some reason, you still keep on downplaying the part in which the virus is highly contagious. Just take a look at india; they had at least 150,000 new cases in a day. The more it spreads, the more it could, you know, cause more potential deaths towards others. Let's say you have it and you're asymptomatic then you recover from it after a few days. That's good but what if there are elderly people in your surroundings while you were still positive? Then they'd get it and could have severe symptoms. That would mean they could be hospitalized and there's a good chance they can die from it. The vaccines at least will eventually get everybody some immunity from the virus someday while protocols are being implemented until now, to prevent hospitals from being overloaded. Especially in highly contaminated areas and then neutralize the addition of new cases recorded each day as much as possible. That's a far case from smoking cigarettes and eating junk foods because those things don't infect many people at once, do they?

[Manny98]

Except no one is forced vaccines, just more weird fear mongering Emanuel. But it would be mask up if it killed 600k Americans per year. Probably more since this was just the first year, probably a million Americans a year now that it's ramped up statewide.

Interesting how you just ignored that reddit page, why are you pulling graphs off conspiracy sites? Looks like you're just searching for reasons to complain about anything.
They're making it mandatory in New Zealand to get vaccinated or lose your job

In the UK people in care homes have to get vaccinated

Plus countless other countries, America will soon follow as well

[Manny98]

I know but for some reason, you still keep on downplaying the part in which the virus is highly contagious. Just take a look at india; they had at least 150,000 new cases in a day. The more it spreads, the more it could, you know, cause more potential deaths towards others. Let's say you have it and you're asymptomatic then you recover from it after a few days. That's good but what if there are elderly people in your surroundings while you were still positive? Then they'd get it and could have severe symptoms. That would mean they could be hospitalized and there's a good chance they can die from it. The vaccines at least will eventually get everybody some immunity from the virus someday while protocols are being implemented until now, to prevent hospitals from being overloaded. Especially in highly contaminated areas and then neutralize the addition of new cases recorded each day as much as possible. That's a far case from smoking cigarettes and eating junk foods because those things don't infect many people at once, do they?
90% of the over 70 population have already been vaccinated so what's the problem, they're "immune" so even if I do infect them they're going to live because the vaccine will protect them

[Stanley Kobrick]

I know but for some reason, you still keep on downplaying the part in which the virus is highly contagious. Just take a look at india; they had at least 150,000 new cases in a day. The more it spreads, the more it could, you know, cause more potential deaths towards others. Let's say you have it and you're asymptomatic then you recover from it after a few days. That's good but what if there are elderly people in your surroundings while you were still positive? Then they'd get it and could have severe symptoms. That would mean they could be hospitalized and there's a good chance they can die from it. The vaccines at least will eventually get everybody some immunity from the virus someday while protocols are being implemented until now, to prevent hospitals from being overloaded. Especially in highly contaminated areas and then neutralize the addition of new cases recorded each day as much as possible. That's a far case from smoking cigarettes and eating junk foods because those things don't infect many people at once, do they?
Yes. Their (and when I say their it's like a handful of 3-4 users now) Their focal point is death rate and deaths. It doesn't even register to them the 31 million Americans who were sick quarantine with covid for weeks. Unable to see their families and children, out of work for 14-60 days. They see 99% and ran with that talking point for 14 months now. While most of us in the real world actually see the real repercussions this virus has had. For most of us in the know, we just don't want to get sick and put our lives on hold.

[Stanley Kobrick]

They're making it mandatory in New Zealand to get vaccinated or lose your job

In the UK people in care homes have to get vaccinated

Plus countless other countries, America will soon follow as well
Jobs can do whatever they want, that's the liberty and greatness of a free market and business owners. The freedoms of business owners, establishing their own guidelines like refusing to sell goods anytime they choose or letting whom they want into their property. Medical professions in most hospitals in the US now get hair tested for tobacco, if you even use tobacco you aren't hired and get write ups. It's not taking their freedoms, that's just a cliche term your small community has recently be using because you don't like change. You wanted everything to stay the same while people worldwide were suffering, old people were dying. You didn't care, your unemployed and don't initeract with society, you don't see it. Out of sight out of mind, let me order my big mac without a mask

[Manny98]

Yes. Their (and when I say their it's like a handful of 3-4 users now) Their focal point is death rate and deaths. It doesn't even register to them the 31 million Americans who were sick quarantine with covid for weeks. Unable to see their families and children, out of work for 14-60 days. They see 99% and ran with that talking point for 14 months now. While most of us in the real world actually see the real repercussions this virus has had. For most of us in the know, we just don't want to get sick and put our lives on hold.
Um... People get sick all of the time
We have learned to live with illnesses like this one for millions of years even before vaccines were invented

I'm pretty sure if we went on as normal as if this virus never even existed humanity wouldn't be wiped out, in fact you probably wouldn't have even know there was a virus if not for the fear mongering from the media

[tpols]

They're making it mandatory in New Zealand to get vaccinated or lose your job

In the UK people in care homes have to get vaccinated

Plus countless other countries, America will soon follow as well

All work places will require a vaccine to enter. Venues opening up in NJ are requiring either proof of a negative test within the past 14 days or a vaccine certificate. All airlines will require it for travel. What its going to come down to is if you want to go anywhere or have a job, you will need the vaccine. So it will be 100% forced and mandated to live and survive in society, unless you have a ton of money and live off the grid by yourself in a cabin or farm.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Um... People get sick all of the time
We have learned to live with illnesses like this one for millions of years even before vaccines were invented

I'm pretty sure if we went on as normal as if this virus never even existed humanity wouldn't be wiped out, in fact you probably wouldn't have even know there was a virus if not for the fear mongering from the media
Unfortunetaly leaders worldwide weren't cool with it, especially see your own Boris Johnson who was in ICU in bad condition for weeks. They along with medical and science communiting are not cool with letting this virus sticking around. They want it extinct. And i'm cool with that like most, because getting sick sucks. So I take my flu and vaccines regularly :cheers:

[Manny98]

Jobs can do whatever they want, that's the liberty and greatness of a free market and business owners. The freedoms of business owners, establishing their own guidelines like refusing to sell goods anytime they choose or letting whom they want into their property. Medical professions in most hospitals in the US now get hair tested for tobacco, if you even use tobacco you aren't hired and get write ups. It's not taking their freedoms, that's just a cliche term your small community has recently be using because you don't like change. You wanted everything to stay the same while people worldwide were suffering, old people were dying. You didn't care, your unemployed and don't initeract with society, you don't see it. Out of sight out of mind, let me order my big mac without a mask
Funny I actually do currently have a job and I am a student :cheers:

[Manny98]

All work places will require a vaccine to enter. Venues opening up in NJ are requiring either proof of a negative test within the past 14 days or a vaccine certificate. All airlines will require it for travel. What its going to come down to is if you want to go anywhere or have a job, you will need the vaccine. So it will be 100% forced and mandated to live and survive in society, unless you have a ton of money and live off the grid by yourself in a cabin or farm.
That's crazy im not taking the vaccine no matter what even if I lose my job for it.

Taking the vaccine would mean submitting to a authoritarian state which I am not ok with

[Stanley Kobrick]

All work places will require a vaccine to enter. Venues opening up in NJ are requiring either proof of a negative test within the past 14 days or a vaccine certificate. All airlines will require it for travel. What its going to come down to is if you want to go anywhere or have a job, you will need the vaccine. So it will be 100% forced amd mandated to live in society.
The fear monger accusers becoming full time fear mongers :( Full circle

"any day now" :( The new reasons to complain, your fear is fantasy land now. What ifs. Conspiracies. That's your stance. Tpols remember you original accusation back when it first started a year ago claiming corona virus was a weapon of mass destruction by the Chinese? Probably don't, you've had to switch your thought output many times seeing they keep having to change as the death count climbs. Most of your ilk has had to as well. Didn't expect the 600k deaths, in the beginning it was a rare lightening strike rarity. Then it spread :(

[Stanley Kobrick]

That's crazy im not taking the vaccine no matter what even if I lose my job for it.

Taking the vaccine would mean submitting to a authoritarian state which I am not ok with
Good, employers can do whatever they want. That's the greatness of business owners and our freedoms as a license business entity :cheers:

[Axe]

Yes. Their (and when I say their it's like a handful of 3-4 users now) Their focal point is death rate and deaths. It doesn't even register to them the 31 million Americans who were sick quarantine with covid for weeks. Unable to see their families and children, out of work for 14-60 days. They see 99% and ran with that talking point for 14 months now. While most of us in the real world actually see the real repercussions this virus has had. For most of us in the know, we just don't want to get sick and put our lives on hold.
I can attest to that. I have an uncle who works for our family business, his wife's parents both tested positive and within a few days, her father died. Then some two nights after and her mother followed. But before that happened, she and two of my cousins visited their place. That was the same day they learned that both of them were positive because her parents were already feeling some symptoms (difficulty of breathing and loss of smell); i think they got it from my one of uncle's in-laws because she was quarantined (she lives with the parents) when someone tested positive in her workplace. Long story short, my uncle had to be quarantined as well because of that and my aunt felt sick after their late visit (due to stress also), until she tested positive and got hospitalized too because she was very warm plus her oxygen levels weren't high enough. After a few weeks she recovered and then when her family brought her home, it was my uncle's turn to become positive. He lost his sense of smell and for more than one month already, he hasn't come back to work yet. I feel so sad with what's happening around us lately. :(

[Axe]

90% of the over 70 population have already been vaccinated so what's the problem, they're "immune" so even if I do infect them they're going to live because the vaccine will protect them
Maybe but you also said even with the presence of these vaccines, herd immunity isn't attainable so we all have to live with this shit as if it's some kind of flu.

[welfarefan]

All work places will require a vaccine to enter. Venues opening up in NJ are requiring either proof of a negative test within the past 14 days or a vaccine certificate. All airlines will require it for travel. What its going to come down to is if you want to go anywhere or have a job, you will need the vaccine. So it will be 100% forced and mandated to live and survive in society, unless you have a ton of money and live off the grid by yourself in a cabin or farm.

They're going to go door to door like the jews pile us in trains and make us take the vaccine soon :rant:cry:

[Manny98]

Good, employers can do whatever they want. That's the greatness of business owners and our freedoms as a license business entity :cheers:
Doesn't sound like it here buddy

https://mobile.twitter.com/berniespofforth/status/1380793390099542016

[Manny98]

Maybe but you also said even with the presence of these vaccines, herd immunity isn't attainable so we all have to live with this shit as if it's some kind of flu.
Yep exactly

[bladefd]

Um... People get sick all of the time
We have learned to live with illnesses like this one for millions of years even before vaccines were invented

I'm pretty sure if we went on as normal as if this virus never even existed humanity wouldn't be wiped out, in fact you probably wouldn't have even know there was a virus if not for the fear mongering from the media

The way we have lived with illnesses before vaccines was by letting it run its course. That includes multiple times throughout our distant past when a big percentage of humanity died out. Hell, quite a few human species before homo sapiens went extinct due to different reasons - disease was one of them.

If we allowed covid to run its course with zero precautions and no vaccines, we would be looking at a much larger total death count, especially in elders. We had over 3 mill deaths here globally in a year and half (China most likely severely underreported their death count last year so probably more than 3mill). With no precautions, we could have been looking at 30mill deaths right now globally - a big percentage of them older people.

[scuzzy]

All work places will require a vaccine to enter. Venues opening up in NJ are requiring either proof of a negative test within the past 14 days or a vaccine certificate. All airlines will require it for travel. What its going to come down to is if you want to go anywhere or have a job, you will need the vaccine. So it will be 100% forced and mandated to live and survive in society, unless you have a ton of money and live off the grid by yourself in a cabin or farm.
Businesses can do whatever they choose.

Like Stanley said and like just common sense, that's the beauty of being a business owner.

If the Airline doesn't allow carry ons over 50lgs, they can. If they make you wear a mask, they can, no shoes, no service, they can. Hire anybody, Serve anybody. Fire anybody. Why do you think there was such a fuss over affirmative action? If laws are put in place to change traffic laws, they can. We pay license fees to travel. Because even driving itself its not a right, it's a privilege

[Axe]

Yep exactly
Yea. However, it doesn't give you the right to break laws, not to comply or whatever regarding that stuff. So if you still want to do so, then you should isolate yourself from other individuals as much as possible. It would be for their own good but i think you should be more sensitive about their health as well.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Doesn't sound like it here buddy

https://mobile.twitter.com/berniespofforth/status/1380793390099542016
Sucks for New Zealand, at least their citizens are free to move elsewhere unlike North Koreans. But your stance is being upset what another country does and what if's. That's where your at, you and Tpots. Searching the deep web for articles and graphs to complain and whine about, it might happen to me. Asteroid is coming. Doomsday. It's a weird flex, but okay

[Manny98]

Sucks for New Zealand, at least their citizens are free to move elsewhere unlike North Koreans. But your stance is being upset what another country does and what if's. That's where your at, you and Tpots. Searching the deep web for articles and graphs to complain and whine about, it might happen to me. Asteroid is coming. Doomsday. It's a weird flex, but okay
You think other countries are not going to follow :facepalm

[Manny98]

The way we have lived with illnesses before vaccines was by letting it run its course. That includes multiple times throughout our distant past when a big percentage of humanity died out. Hell, quite a few human species before homo sapiens went extinct due to different reasons - disease was one of them.

If we allowed covid to run its course with zero precautions and no vaccines, we would be looking at a much larger total death count, especially in elders. We had over 3 mill deaths here globally in a year and half (China most likely severely underreported their death count last year so probably more than 3mill). With no precautions, we could have been looking at 30mill deaths right now globally - a big percentage of them older people.

30 million? :lol

You're being hysterical as always if this was the case Sweden wouldn't have any people left as they went on with hardly any precautions

[FultzNationRISE]

Yeah, the way we have lived with illnesses before vaccines was by letting it run its course. That includes multiple times throughout our distant past when a big percentage of humanity died out. Hell, quite a few human species before homo sapiens went extinct due to different reasons - disease was one of them.

If we allowed covid to run its course with zero precautions and no vaccines, we would be looking at a much larger total death count, especially in elders. We had over 3 mill deaths here globally in a year and half (China most likely severely underreported their death count last year so probably more than 3mill). With no precautions, we could have been looking at 30mill deaths right now globally - a big percentage of them older people.


Before all this theater began, you were adamant Big Pharm was shamelessly corrupt, exploitative, and evil. You also claimed the US government and politicans were complicit and dont give a shit about public health. They dont care about people being sick, they dont care about medical debt, they dont care for the elderly.

Now you believe they “risked” the entire national - and global - economy, in theory putting their own portfolios at risk of complete destruction and flushing all their wealth down the toilet... in order to implement all these overhauls to protect the American public from a health threat that kills 3% of 80+ year olds. :lol

You did a complete 180 from what you just thought the day before.

And what did it take for you to suddenly “think” the complete opposite? All it took was an Orange Man and a few media concocted white supremacist anti vaxers downplaying the virus, for you to CLING to your partisan overlords as they completely shifted narratives mid sentence. The Dems who just yesterday postured as the anti corporate, anti Big Pharm leaders suddenly told you to trust Big Pharm, AND YOU DID. No questions asked.

Do you like, not notice that?

Thass crazy bro.

[Axe]

All work places will require a vaccine to enter. Venues opening up in NJ are requiring either proof of a negative test within the past 14 days or a vaccine certificate. All airlines will require it for travel. What its going to come down to is if you want to go anywhere or have a job, you will need the vaccine. So it will be 100% forced and mandated to live and survive in society, unless you have a ton of money and live off the grid by yourself in a cabin or farm.
In other countries, these vaccines are for free. Tho even if that's the case, you would not take it at all?

[Stanley Kobrick]

You think other countries are not going to follow :facepalm
It's almost as if countries all have their own laws and don't do the same thing. :ohwell: You've been jumping around searching conspiracy sights the past 14 months for rare anomalies. Point to it and say, hah I knew it, I was right. "how come _____ country at ______ deaths and not ______". "______ will make us do ______ any day now like how New Zealand" Your biggest two points are what Norwegian deaths, and scared New Zealand policies will come worldwide. Disregarding hundreds of others countries policies.

No, no one is sitting around spooked because NZ wants their people to mandate Vax, because they have the freedom to leave. Just a small pocket of you truthers who get a ego boost feeling you have some edgy contrarian POV that separates your superior IQ. Where's your 14 month outcry for North Korea spreading their laws? Everyone just followed communism right? So worried over small island New Zealand. Sheesh

[Manny98]

It's almost as if countries all have their own laws and don't do the same thing. :ohwell: You've been jumping around searching conspiracy sights the past 14 months for rare anomalies. Point to it and say, hah I knew it, I was right. "how come _____ country at ______ deaths and not ______". "______ will make us do ______ any day now like how New Zealand" Your biggest two points are what Norwegian deaths, and scared New Zealand policies will come worldwide. Disregarding hundreds of others countries policies.

No, no one is sitting around spooked because NZ wants their people to mandate Vax, because they have the freedom to leave. Just a small pocket of you truthers who get a ego boost feeling you have some edgy contrarian POV that separates your superior IQ. Where's your 14 month outcry for North Korea spreading their laws? Everyone just followed communism right? So worried over small island New Zealand. Sheesh
Italy as well

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n905

I thought businesses were allowed to decide what they want, doesn't look like it bro :oldlol:

[Stanley Kobrick]

Italy as well

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n905

I thought businesses were allowed to decide what they want, doesn't look like it bro :oldlol:
They are, in America and where you live Emanuel. No outrage at Vietnam for being state run the past 30 years, how about Russia? They tell their people where to work from birth. You scared that will spread like little New Zealand? We went to wars for that specifically not to happen.

Like I said you're rifting thought conspiracy subs to find material and anomalies. I'm sorry your terrified Manny, it's only a mask and you can go on without McDonalds

[Manny98]

I wear a mask almost everyday

Just because I don't agree with the rules doesn't mean I don't follow them to an extent

Putting something in your body is a completely different story tho

[Stanley Kobrick]

I wear a mask almost everyday

Just because I don't agree with the rules doesn't mean I don't follow them to an extent

Putting something in your body is a completely different story tho
You just don't see the irony in it. Where is the big bad manny willing to put the virus in his body for herd immunity? Only 99.99% chance of death? How is this the same Manny now scared of the vaccine because it goes into his body, my body my temple :( I understand the point of being a contrarian is going against popular opinion. But you have to see the comedy in this. Well obv you don't but how others do.

[tpols]

The fear monger accusers becoming full time fear mongers :( Full circle

"any day now" :( The new reasons to complain, your fear is fantasy land now. What ifs. Conspiracies. That's your stance. Tpols remember you original accusation back when it first started a year ago claiming corona virus was a weapon of mass destruction by the Chinese? Probably don't, you've had to switch your thought output many times seeing they keep having to change as the death count climbs. Most of your ilk has had to as well. Didn't expect the 600k deaths, in the beginning it was a rare lightening strike rarity. Then it spread :(

Dummy this is already happening. The CEO of the company that makes the vaccine has already announced it. All venues will easily be able to comply via a barcode scan on your phone how you already do when you have tickets to any event. Even where I work to go on site right now employees have to fill out a COVID online survey and get a CDC pass to work on site and the survey has to be completed every day prior to entrance. I know you're just a contrarian troll but what I'm saying is not fear mongering. It is reality. Within 1-2 years you will need a vaccine certificate to go anywhere. But you dummies thought this would all wash away in 6 months. :oldlol: This was planned from the start to last forever.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Dummy this is already happening. The CEO of the company that makes the vaccine has already announced it. All venues will easily be able to comply via a barcode scan on your phone how you already do when you have tickets to any event. Even where I work to go on site right now employees have to fill out a COVID online survey and get a CDC pass to work on site and the survey has to be completed every day prior to entrance. I know you're just a contrarian troll but what I'm saying is not fear mongering. It is reality,
Whoa, the CEO of a business made a business decision. For his company. Like clothing attire, lunch break hours, sick days given, wages. Crazy stuff. CEO tests for drugs AND covid vaccine. whoa.

All to get Biden Elected

Chinese WMD

[Manny98]

You just don't see the irony in it. Where is the big bad manny willing to put the virus in his body for herd immunity? Only 99.99% chance of death? How is this the same Manny now scared of the vaccine because it goes into his body, my body my temple :( I understand the point of being a contrarian is going against popular opinion. But you have to see the comedy in this. Well obv you don't but how others do.
Again you're comparing a natural circulating virus that's been around for ever that's guaranteed to not harm me due to me having a great immune system to a man made vaccine that hasn't even been properly tested or approved

Any rational human would at least question the legitimacy of these vaccines especially with the AZ and JJ vaccines being banned in multiple countries and reports of people suffering serious side effects

[Stanley Kobrick]

Again you're comparing a natural circulating virus that's been around for ever that's guaranteed to not harm me due to me having a great immune system to a man made vaccine that hasn't even been properly tested or approved
Yeah covid-19 existed forever. We all saw it coming Manny. That's why the world panicked because we've been prepared for it forever. Covid good, Vaccine bad. Corona virus wont harm me my body is a temple with great immunity, no I won't take that vaccine it will harm me my body is a temple with great immunity

[Axe]

You just don't see the irony in it. Where is the big bad manny willing to put the virus in his body for herd immunity? Only 99.99% chance of death? How is this the same Manny now scared of the vaccine because it goes into his body, my body my temple :( I understand the point of being a contrarian is going against popular opinion. But you have to see the comedy in this. Well obv you don't but how others do.
Vaccines, face masks, face shields, hand sanitizers, quarantines and lock downs all be damned. I just want my precious freedom back! :mad::rant

[Stanley Kobrick]

Vaccines, face masks, face shields, hand sanitizers, quarantines and lock downs all be damned. I just want my precious freedom back! :mad::rant
All these virgin libs worried about a virus that's killed only 6,000,000 of the 140 million cases. (fake numbers btw) That's only .00002% of the global population:mad:

No I won't take this vaccine, it's killed 1,500 of the 190 million vaccines administered. (real numbers btw) That's like 9/11, huge terrorist attack:mad:

[Manny98]

Why do you seem to care so much about people choosing not to get the vaccine is the real question?

[Axe]

All these virgin libs worried about a virus that's killed only 6,000,000 of the 140 million cases. (fake numbers btw) That's only .00002% of the global population:mad:

No I won't take this vaccine, it's killed 1,500 of the 190 million vaccines administered. (real numbers btw) That's like 9/11, huge terrorist attack:mad:
These freaks are complaining about the pandemic neutralizing everything from them these days when there's no one preventing them from going anywhere outside of mother earth. They are always free to move on to somewhere else, like the moon or mars. At least there are no pandemics going on out there right now they won't have to wear any face masks, undergo lockdowns or such so they are free to live their lives there normally. :confusedshrug:

[bladefd]

30 million? :lol

You're being hysterical as always if this was the case Sweden wouldn't have any people left as they went on with hardly any precautions

Yes, 30mill.

And Sweden is taking precautions. Here's their regulations & guidelines: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/regulations-and-general-guidelines/

Recommendations their government has been pushing: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/recommendations-to-reduce-the-spread-of-covid-19/
-Socialise only with a small circle
-Meet people in at-risk groups in a safe manner
-Limit travel
-Avoid crowds

Negative covid test is mandatory to enter Sweden (https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/if-you-are-planning-to-travel/negative-covid-19-test-required-for-entry-into-sweden/) by their government.

What nonsense are you talking about?

[bladefd]

I wear a mask almost everyday

Just because I don't agree with the rules doesn't mean I don't follow them to an extent

Putting something in your body is a completely different story tho

You are like the emotional 8yr old girl crying nonstop. That means your posts on here shouldn't be taken seriously. You are just using ISH to whine and rant.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Why do you seem to care so much about people choosing not to get the vaccine is the real question?
Whoa now, for 14 months you seemed to caring whether or not someone wore a mask, you've been campaigning how everyone else is stupid and your so wise while peoples family and friends were ill or dying. You want to know why I dig at you for being a hypocrite? That's just fun. I don't care if people take the vaccine or not. However, I'd like to get back to normal like most all of us and we do that bad eradicating the spread. Which starts at stopping the hosts from carrying it. Very simple, faster the vaccinated, faster McRib no mask.

It's weird how your small circle was so preoccupied about the herd immunity. Just let it all play out and we'll evolve, adapt and move past it. Cover our eyes from the dead. Who cares if it takes years. People die all the time. OMG new temporary regulations, the tyranny. When will it end

Now the same people are absolutely disgusted at taking a pointy boy in the shoulder to end this pandemic. Which confirms what we all know, your just looking for something to complain about. Your Facebook Karen in the flesh. Congrats

[Manny98]

Who's complaining i just refuse to take the vaccine that's all :confusedshrug:

People will wake up and realize what's really going on sooner rather than later

[Axe]

Who's complaining i just refuse to take the vaccine that's all :confusedshrug:
There is nothing wrong about that. Just that you keep on complaining about the same stuff and continue to downplay it repeatedly in this board. That's all. It might be better if you just keep your thoughts to yourself.

[Manny98]

You are like the emotional 8yr old girl crying nonstop. That means your posts on here shouldn't be taken seriously. You are just using ISH to whine and rant.
Again who's crying, all I said is that I don't want to take the vaccine.

I have zero issue with you or any other poster here doing whatever they want, hell take one dose of every single vaccine if it makes you feel safe and secure I could care less

The people that seem to be the most triggered in this thread are the ones that take covid seriously and believes that lockdowns and taking away people's freedoms is necessary

[Stanley Kobrick]

Who's complaining i just refuse to take the vaccine that's all :confusedshrug:

People will wake up and realize what's really going on sooner rather than later
That's why you're hear because you're already wide aWoke and have the deep state secrets you learned from the super unexplored catacombs of the deep web. You Manny, have the secret key to reveal all the knowledge to us simpletons. :bowdown:


Doomsday Dallas too, also once possesses this golden key. He's growing old and losing his powers though

[Axe]

Again who's crying, all I said is that I don't want to take the vaccine.

I have zero issue with you or any other poster here doing whatever they want, hell take one dose of every single vaccine if it makes you feel safe and secure I could care less

The people that seem to be the most triggered in this thread are the ones that take covid seriously and believes that lockdowns and taking away people's freedoms is necessary
There wouldn't be any heated discussions that lead up to this point if you weren't whining frequently so much about it. So calm down.

[LAmbruh]

fall back