Westbrook and Lebron have cheapened the triple double.

[LAL]

Stat whores.

Those 2 guys are so good they never have bad games on paper. :lol

But watching them, they're not THAT great at all.

Atleast Westbrook is less scared of missing shots. It comes off little more authentic than lebron's cheap, safe shot selection and play. Sweating they're ass off for those extra rebounds lol. Chasing greatness on a stat sheet... zero moves.

Luka Doncic also is better than MJ and Kobe according to his stats.



I will always judge by the eye test, i don't have a top 10 all time like you idiots. You guys keep judging by stats and media hype.

[FultzNationRISE]

WESTBROOK cheapened it.

Lebron made it more expensive.

[Axe]

As usual, 9am meltdowns from 🇦🇱.

[mehyaM24]

westbrook has averaged a triple double multiple seasons now. kind of weird that you bring up lebron who HASNT averaged one.

were do you rank lebron and kobe btw? what separates them, if anything?

[LAL]

westbrook has averaged a triple double multiple seasons now. kind of weird that you bring up lebron who HASNT averaged one.

were do you rank lebron and kobe btw? what separates them, if anything?

Kobe is 2 behind MJ, i don't have a top 10. Eye test, weaknesses, mentality, stats, work ethic and rings. Something like that.

Lebron and Westbrook cheapened the stats game. Those all around stats are important for jack of all trades type players.

[mehyaM24]

Eye test, weaknesses, mentality, stats, work ethic and rings. Something like that.

Lebron and Westbrook cheapened the stats game. Those all around stats are important for jack of all trades type players.

you don't think lebron: is visibly dominant, has a strong mentality, puts up big numbers, has rings or works hard in the offseason? come on pal. objectively he does all those things. :confusedshrug: i agree that westbrook has cheapened the triple-double. but you could also say he's the ONLY player that's made it look effortless. nobody before or even now has averaged MULTIPLE td seasons.

[LAL]

you don't think lebron : is visibly dominant, has a strong mentality, puts up big numbers, has rings or works hard in the offseason? come on pal. objectively he does all those things. :confusedshrug: i agree that westbrook has cheapened the triple-double. but you could also say he's the ONLY player that's made it look effortless. nobody before or even now has averaged MULTIPLE td seasons.

Dominant pysically yes, and still pretty soft with it.
Does not have a strong mentality
Big numbers obviously, that's his claim to greatness mostly.
Barely 4 rings in 18 prime healthy seasons creating superteams while getting media love only seen with MJ.

It's cool if he impresses you and his fans. But he aint Kobe. Never could be.

Kobe was basketball perfection, great competitor, winner. Not a stat clown.

Russel Westbrook found his triple double rythm again, but still loosing in the East with a teammate putting up Michael Jordan stats. Still zero moves.

All weird to me.

[Gray GOAT]

Wow, so this is what happens at 9 AM in Albania. Run to your computer to talk about LeBron James. Very insightful.

[LAL]

Wow, so this is what happens at 9 AM in Albania. Run to your computer to talk about LeBron James. Very insightful.

I'm not from Albania and i don't pass around my mother to friends and teammates.

[Gray GOAT]

I'm not from Albania and i don't pass around my mother to friends and teammates.

What's the weather like in Tirana?

[LAL]

What's the weather like in Tirana?

I just googled Tirana. Thanks, knowledge is power my friend.

[SATAN]

I'm not from Albania and i don't pass around my mother to friends and teammates.

That's because you don't have friends. Or teammates. Or family that actually want anything to do with you. :confusedshrug:

[LAL]

That's because you don't have friends. Or teammates. Or family that actually want anything to do with you. :confusedshrug:

I know you don't believe that :)

[2much_knowledge]

Stat whores.

Those 2 guys are so good they never have bad games on paper. :lol

But watching them, they're not THAT great at all.

Atleast Westbrook is less scared of missing shots. It comes off little more authentic than lebron's cheap, safe shot selection and play. Sweating they're ass off for those extra rebounds lol. Chasing greatness on a stat sheet... zero moves.

Luka Doncic also is better than MJ and Kobe according to his stats.



I will always judge by the eye test, i don't have a top 10 all time like you idiots. You guys keep judging by stats and media hype.

I hear you but its not their fault. Its the rule changes that allowed such numbers. All of a sudden, in the 13 - 14 off season, they went to triple double seminar and those total yearly triple doubles spiked like crazy

[LAL]

I hear you but its not their fault. Its the rule changes that allowed such numbers. All of a sudden, in the 13 - 14 off season, they went to triple double seminar and those total yearly triple doubles spiked like crazy

Have you noticed players who mastered certain aspects of their game and who have higher natural iq's don't go out there way to chase those extra defensive rebounds or triple doubles?

Dame, Kawhi, KD, Steph, cp3 etc. Because they are ballers. Visible greatness.


But it's just the way i see i guess.

[RRR3]

LeBron doesn’t even have triple doubles that often compared to some other players in the league lol wtf. OP is retarded.

[LAL]

LeBron doesn’t even have triple doubles that often compared to some other players in the league lol wtf. OP is retarded.

His all around stats is his claim to greatness. He plays like that too, snoozefest. Looks legendary on paper tho.

[SATAN]

His all around stats is his claim to greatness. He plays like that too, snoozefest. Looks legendary on paper tho.

Do you think he couldn't make the stats look better on paper?? Yes he's obviously chasing the scoring title but this is not a very well thought out argument. Luka seems more of a stat padder to me.

[2much_knowledge]

Have you noticed players who mastered certain aspects of their game and who have higher natural iq's don't go out there way to chase those extra defensive rebounds or triple doubles?

Dame, Kawhi, KD, Steph, cp3 etc. Because they are ballers. Visible greatness.


But it's just the way i see i guess.

But did you noticed that before the 13 - 14 season. League leaders in triple doubles were between 10 - 13 a year. Then one season latter, it jumped to 18 - 25

[RRR3]

Do you think he couldn't make the stats look better on paper?? Yes he's obviously chasing the scoring title but this is not a very well thought out argument. Luka seems more of a stat padder to me.
Anyone who thinks LeBron couldn’t average the rebound and assist numbers WB averages is not a serious person. Hell he just averaged WB level assists last season. LeBron will def at times pad his stats if he’s having a bad game for his standards or if he’s close to getting 40 or 50. But OP is acting like he does it every game. That’s nonsense he’d average way more rebounds and assists (outside of 19-20) if he did that. OP is braindead.

[LAL]

But did you noticed that before the 13 - 14 season. League leaders in triple doubles were between 10 - 13 a year. Then one season latter, it jumped to 18 - 25

Ofcourse, i knew things changed around that time. Lebron has been chasing greatness trough stats since 04. He might have something to do with it too.

[LAL]

Anyone who thinks LeBron couldn’t average the rebound and assist numbers WB averages is not a serious person. Hell he just averaged WB level assists last season. LeBron will def at times pad his stats if he’s having a bad game for his standards or if he’s close to getting 40 or 50. But OP is acting like he does it every game. That’s nonsense he’d average way more rebounds and assists (outside of 19-20) if he did that. OP is braindead.

So could MJ, Kobe and Steph if they wanted. It's just ballhandling in his lebron system gives him 22/6/6 alone if he doesn't fall asleep. He's been doing this crap since 04.

[2much_knowledge]

So could MJ, Kobe and Steph if they wanted. It's just ballhandling in his lebron system gives him 22/6/6 alone if he doesn't fall asleep. He's been doing this crap since 04.

Jordan clearly proved that in 1989. Mj and Kobe were more interested in mastering the winning formula of the triangle offense than going for pretty stats and then proceed to put that stupid t-shirt.. check my $tats lol

[Axe]

Jordan clearly proved that in 1989. Mj and Kobe were more interested in mastering the winning formula of the triangle offense than going for pretty stats and then proceed to put that stupid t-shirt.. check my $tats lol
That's because they're both ballhogs than kong ever was. Also lol at kobe being interested in the triangle. He often used to say that it was boring because it wouldn't allow him to be more creative in his shots, which usually created heated arguments with phil jackson and shaq back in the day. The last season would summarize most of that.

[LAL]

Jordan clearly proved that in 1989. Mj and Kobe were more interested in mastering the winning formula of the triangle offense than going for pretty stats and then proceed to put that stupid t-shirt.. check my $tats lol

Yup. They played a different sport almost. Came from different worlds too. Lebron was poor, unskilled, no father and spoiled at the same time.

[LAL]

That's because they're both ballhogs than kong ever was. Also lol at kobe being interested in the triangle. He often used to say that it was boring because it wouldn't allow him to be more creative in his shots, which usually created heated arguments with phil jackson and shaq back in the day. The last season would summarize most of that.

Did he play in a Kobe system or triangle offense most of his career?

Why do you call chicago legend mj a ball hog? You're a weird bulls fan.

[Spurs m8]

100%

We all know lebron plays for stats...its why he's lost so many finals...puts his stats ahead of the team.

Hes mastered stat padding which is why he gets his empty stats in first 3 quarters and then goes missing in crunch time.

No one who loves basketball respects this clown

[Axe]

Did he play in a Kobe system or triangle offense most of his career?
Who?


Why do you call chicago legend mj a ball hog? You're a weird bulls fan.
Lmao sorry if i've read the book eleven rings before pal. The zen master himself used to state that he couldn't win anything if he doesn't give up a little bit of his scoring for a more selfless oriented style when they were just getting started.

[2much_knowledge]

That's because they're both ballhogs than kong ever was. Also lol at kobe being interested in the triangle. He often used to say that it was boring because it wouldn't allow him to be more creative in his shots, which usually created heated arguments with phil jackson and shaq back in the day. The last season would summarize most of that.

B.s, Kobe was already calling Tex Winter to learn about the triangle while Phil was still coaching the bulls

[Axe]

B.s, Kobe was already calling Tex Winter to learn about the triangle while Phil was still coaching the bulls
I sincerely doubt that. Kobe in his younger years was immature, stubborn and usually refused to listen to authority (coaches) when commanded for team play. He also isn't quite scared to break the law at times on the court when he feels the need to. He's had his own set of troubles playing second fiddle to shaq as well, which sparked their rivalry and animosity towards each other when they were still teammates, that peaked in their last season together. Now just because phil himself was able to lead their team into a dynasty during the early 00s doesn't mean they weren't running into locker or management problems behind the scenes.

[LAL]

Who?


Lmao sorry if i've read the book eleven rings before pal. The zen master himself used to state that he couldn't win anything if he doesn't give up a little bit of his scoring for a more selfless oriented style when they were just getting started.

It worked out right? They adjusted because thet could and won 6 and 5 in a 7-10 year span. Lebron is the true definition of a ball hog, dribble dribble dribble.. no handles, no creativity, no jumper. :sleeping




mJ dIdN't LiKe ThE iDeA oF tRiAnGlE iN 89

KoBe HaD pRoBlEmS dEaLiNg wItH sHaQ

[LAL]

I sincerely doubt that. Kobe in his younger years was immature, stubborn and usually refused to listen to authority (coaches) when commanded for team play. He also isn't quite scared to break the law at times on the court when he feels the need to. He's had his own set of troubles playing second fiddle to shaq as well, which sparked their rivalry and animosity towards each other when they were still teammates. Now just because phil himself was able to lead their team into a dynasty during the early 00s doesn't mean they weren't running into locker or management problems behind the scenes.

Behind the scenes, management problems? Dude focus. Kobe was 100% more coachable than lebron, he just didn't let phil and shaq bully him.

Why are you posting about unimportant things? Weird weird guy.

[Axe]

It worked out right? They adjusted because thet could and won 6 and 5 in a 7-10 year span. Lebron is the true definition of a ball hog, dribble dribble dribble.. no handles, no creativity, no jumper. :sleeping




mJ dIdN't LiKe ThE iDeA oF tRiAnGlE iN 89

KoBe HaD pRoBlEmS dEaLiNg wItH sHaQ
You have no clue what you are talking about. Those two didn't even have rings outside of the zen master's tutelage, did they?

[LAL]

You have no clue what you are talking about. Those two didn't even have rings outside of the zen master's tutelage, did they?

Phil jackson lmao

[Axe]

Behind the scenes, management problems? Dude focus. Kobe was 100% more coachable than lebron, he just didn't let phil and shaq bully him.

Why are you posting about unimportant things? Weird weird guy.
Is basketball an individual sport or a team sport? Because last time i checked it's the latter. Anyway kobe got flamed many times during those days because he was too cocky and selfish. And there's no way he's more coachable than kong. Hate to break it to you but that's the truth, even if you do melt down all day about it.

[LAL]

Is basketball an individual sport or a team sport? Because last time i checked it's the latter. Anyway kobe got flamed many times during those days because he was too cocky and selfish. And there's no way he's more coachable than kong. Hate to break it to you but that's the truth.

Atleast have some respect for the god of chicago. Fake bulls fan.

[Axe]

Atleast have some respect for the god of chicago. Fake bulls fan.
Umm outside of ish, i do have some respect for him but not in the sense of blind worshipping that delusional mj stans usually do in this board. I'm just open to acknowledging his shortcomings and i'm okay if he ain't the goat anymore. That's all. You, otoh, is clearly mad because you think i'm a bran stan when i ain't.

[Lebron23]

Stat whores.

Those 2 guys are so good they never have bad games on paper. :lol

But watching them, they're not THAT great at all.

Atleast Westbrook is less scared of missing shots. It comes off little more authentic than lebron's cheap, safe shot selection and play. Sweating they're ass off for those extra rebounds lol. Chasing greatness on a stat sheet... zero moves.

Luka Doncic also is better than MJ and Kobe according to his stats.



I will always judge by the eye test, i don't have a top 10 all time like you idiots. You guys keep judging by stats and media hype.

You are still melting down. Lebron have 4 mvp and 4 finals mvp. And just a superior basketball player than the late Kobe.

[LAL]

Umm outside of ish, i do have some respect for him but not in the sense of blind worshipping that delusional mj stans usually do in this board. I'm just open to acknowledging his shortcomings and i'm okay if he ain't the goat anymore. That's all. You, otoh, is clearly mad because you think i'm a bran stan when i ain't.

Leave the blind worshipping for your boy lebron.

OpEn To AcKnOwlEdGe mJ s ShOrRtCoMiNgS :oldlol:

Who's the goat then for you?

[Lebron23]

LeBron doesn’t even have triple doubles that often compared to some other players in the league lol wtf. OP is retarded.

Op never played basketball. Getting a triple double is more difficult than just scoring and ball hogging. Kobe despite being claimed as a better scorer than LeBron. The highest points that he averaged in a playoffs series is only 32 ppg.

[Axe]

Leave the blind worshipping for your boy lebron.

OpEn To AcKnOwlEdGe mJ s ShOrRtCoMiNgS :oldlol:

Who's the goat then for you?
Lol i don't even worship kong the way others do as if he's had a perfect record in the finals. :oldlol:

Btw why are you still being salty these days against him huh? Anyway, any of these four can be goat depending on criteria imho; jordan, lebron, kareem, russell.

[LAL]

Lol i don't even worship kong the way others do as if he's had a perfect record in the finals. :oldlol:

Btw why are you still being salty these days against him huh? Anyway, any of these four can be goat depending on criteria imho; jordan, lebron, kareem, russell.

I thought mj wasn't the goat anymore? You just want to say lebum but it would expose you as a die hard bronsexual. You need to stop hiding your fandom or stop replying like a bitter woman when i write something about your idol. What you're doing is unnecessary.

[Axe]

I thought mj wasn't the goat anymore? You just want to say lebum but it would expose you as a die hard bronsexual. You need to stop hiding your fandom or stop replying like a bitter woman when i write something about your idol. What you're doing is unnecessary.
'Replying like a bitter woman'

Wow what a great way to describe how you are like rn bud. Oh, and stop projecting. I guess it makes no more sense to reply to you when you're this highly emotional.

[SouBeachTalents]

I honestly do not get how some people get THIS upset about another man who plays a game for a living :lol Just the fact the player he hates the most ended up winning a title for the team he repped is hilarious

[SATAN]

Why are you posting about unimportant things? Weird weird guy.

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:facepalm

[LAL]

I honestly do not get how some people get THIS upset about another man who plays a game for a living :lol Just the fact the player he hates the most ended up winning a title for the team he repped is hilarious

Westbrook and Lebron. Bronsexuals turned this into a strictly lebron topic. I don't care :) I was watching russel and made this topic.

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[LAL]

https://memegenerator.net/img/images/15904590.jpg

:facepalm

Putting the spotlight on stat whores sometimes is not unimportant buddy. Or weird.

[SATAN]

Putting the spotlight on stat whores sometimes is not unimportant buddy. Or weird.

Oh...ok. I see. Well then, I've seen the light now, folks. LeBron is equal to Westbrick. It was so obvious the whole time. Thanks for opening my eyes to this important information, LALOL.

[LAL]

Oh...ok. I see. Well then, I've seen the light now, folks. LeBron is equal to Westbrick. It was so obvious the whole time. Thanks for opening my eyes to this important information, LALOL.

Lebron is the better GM obviously. Also the bigger media darling while westbrook gets shitted on.

[SATAN]

he's not very good at this

Go easy on him

He might be "special"

[Lebron23]

he's not very good at this

Go easy on him

He might be "special"

All of the Kobetard are special. In 10-20 years Kobe won't be a top 15 player of all time.

[LAL]

he's not very good at this

Go easy on him

He might be "special"

Lebron is a little "special" i believe, seriously. You don't see it?

[Lebron23]

I honestly do not get how some people get THIS upset about another man who plays a game for a living :lol Just the fact the player he hates the most ended up winning a title for the team he repped is hilarious

He's also posting the same stuff on another forum. Dude is seriously mentally ill.

[LAL]

He's also posting the same stuff on another forum. Dude is seriously mentally ill.

Damn i don't post often anywhere and you can still trace me on other forums? That's.. impressive lmao.

[Lebron23]

Damn i don't post often anywhere and you can still trace me on other forums? That's.. impressive lmao.

because since Kobe died you became much crazier.

[LAL]

because since Kobe died you became much crazier.

No because you started to know me, my style of posts are not hard to find in a laker board or whatever. Especially when i'm not hiding it. I can ruin your laker experience if i want on that forum, but i won't. No time, sometimes i do like now.

[8Ball]

Kobetards still exist?

I thought they were extinct species after what happened in 2020.

After the death of their idol they ceased to go after LeBron... and after 2020 finals any remnants became appreciative of Bron.

LeBron stans have stopped making threads denigrating Kobe. Kobetards need to wise up.

[Lebron23]

No because you started to know me, my style of posts are not hard to find in a laker board or whatever. Especially when i'm not hiding it. I can ruin your laker experience if i want on that forum, but i won't. No time, sometimes i do like now.

I hope you found God, and ask for his forgiveness.

[Lebron23]

Kobetards still exist?

I thought they were extinct species after what happened in 2020.

After the death of their idol they ceased to go after LeBron... and after 2020 finals any remnants became appreciative of Bron.

LeBron stans have stopped making threads denigrating Kobe. Kobetards need to wise up.

Kobe was a good guy, but his fan base are some of the most annoying, and unbearable fan base in this forum.

[Axe]

Kobetards still exist?

I thought they were extinct species after what happened in 2020.

After the death of their idol they ceased to go after LeBron... and after 2020 finals any remnants became appreciative of Bron.

LeBron stans have stopped making threads denigrating Kobe. Kobetards need to wise up.
I think so, since tpots is one of them. He's still much alive and kicking but he's gotten crazier as well since he stans chef dingo to death too.

[rawimpact]

The pace has weakened the significance of a triple double.

More possessions = more attempts at points, rebounds and assists (especially when considering there are more jumpshots now than before and 3pt fgs relative to all fgs which help guards getting long rebounds).

[Marchesk]

There's no Steven Adams to box out for Westbrook, yet he's still having nights of 14 rebounds and 14 assists.

[Lebron23]

There's no Steven Adams to box out for Westbrook, yet he's still having nights of 14 rebounds and 14 assists.

Westbrooks is such an underrated player

[light]

Stat whores.

Those 2 guys are so good they never have bad games on paper. :lol

But watching them, they're not THAT great at all.

Atleast Westbrook is less scared of missing shots. It comes off little more authentic than lebron's cheap, safe shot selection and play. Sweating they're ass off for those extra rebounds lol. Chasing greatness on a stat sheet... zero moves.

Luka Doncic also is better than MJ and Kobe according to his stats.



I will always judge by the eye test, i don't have a top 10 all time like you idiots. You guys keep judging by stats and media hype.

Luka Doncic is definitely better than Kobe.

You can see that with your eyes and on the stat sheet.

[Bronbron23]

Stat whores.

Those 2 guys are so good they never have bad games on paper. :lol

But watching them, they're not THAT great at all.

Atleast Westbrook is less scared of missing shots. It comes off little more authentic than lebron's cheap, safe shot selection and play. Sweating they're ass off for those extra rebounds lol. Chasing greatness on a stat sheet... zero moves.

Luka Doncic also is better than MJ and Kobe according to his stats.



I will always judge by the eye test, i don't have a top 10 all time like you idiots. You guys keep judging by stats and media hype.

So your penalizing bron for taking smart efficient shots?

The only time i find it annoying with bron is when he hesitates to take last second prayers because he's thinking about his efficiency. Other than that i Don't any problems with taking smart shots

[Lebron23]

So your penalizing bron for taking smart efficient shots?

The only time i find it annoying with bron is when he hesitates to take last second prayers because he's thinking about his efficiency. Other than that i Don't any problems with taking smart shots

The guy still thinks that the late Kobe Bryant is still better than LeBron

[mehyaM24]

Dominant pysically yes, and still pretty soft with it.
Does not have a strong mentality
Big numbers obviously, that's his claim to greatness mostly.
Barely 4 rings in 18 prime healthy seasons creating superteams while getting media love only seen with MJ.

It's cool if he impresses you and his fans. But he aint Kobe. Never could be.

Kobe was basketball perfection, great competitor, winner. Not a stat clown.

Russel Westbrook found his triple double rythm again, but still loosing in the East with a teammate putting up Michael Jordan stats. Still zero moves.

All weird to me.

lebron's led THREE teams to championships while winning THREE fmvps - which is more than kobe. so how exactly does lebron have a "softer" mentality? we both agree kobe was HIGHLY skilled, but if lebron's superior playmaking, finishing and three-point shooting do not impress you, then maybe basketball isn't your thing? being great isn't about who scores pretty which is what you're arguing.

[Bronbron23]

The guy still thinks that the late Kobe Bryant is still better than LeBron

Yeah as far as careers go i put bron over kobe but as far as who's a better player i think it's close and i don't have a problem witn anyone who thinks kobe's better. Alot of experts including players who played both put kobe even or better than than bron. I don't because bron has better stats and accolades. Alot of players use experience and eye test to where it would be alot closer

[Axe]

Whenever op sees the others praise kong for doing something great or impressive, he instantly thinks they're bronsexuals already. :sleeping

[ImKobe]

The pace has weakened the significance of a triple double.

More possessions = more attempts at points, rebounds and assists (especially when considering there are more jumpshots now than before and 3pt fgs relative to all fgs which help guards getting long rebounds).

Yup, the extra posessions has also worsened the defense. The top 8 teams all-time in ORTG are all from these last 2 seasons, so the longevity thing also comes into question as it's much easier to put up numbers as the years go on.

[imdaman99]

Westbrook no triple double tonight, fell 1 assist short. But that's only because Beal was off (0-9 on 3s lol). But he got the dub :pimp:

[ImKobe]

Westbrook no triple double tonight, fell 1 assist short. But that's only because Beal was off (0-9 on 3s lol). But he got the dub :pimp:

36/15/9 with game-winning FTs, they said he was washed :kobe:

[imdaman99]

36/15/9 with game-winning FTs, they said he was washed :kobe:

That was with 0 spacing. It was literally worse than his OKC days with Roberson out there :lol 1-21 on 3s from the rest of the Wiz :biggums: