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StrongLurk
04-18-2021, 12:53 PM
Only one other person has scored that many ppg on at least 60 EFG%...which is Curry in 2016.

The Curry haters look so dumb. Curry is basically the most efficient volume scorer of all time (besides maybe Jordan) which is amazing considering his stature. He even has a higher EFG% than peak Shaq. Curry also has his 6 rebs/assts per game as well this year, simply a beast like no other.

Bronbron23
04-18-2021, 01:04 PM
Not on the biggest stage he's not but i agree he's one of the greatest regular season players ever. When there's no pressure he's a beast.

StrongLurk
04-18-2021, 02:58 PM
Not on the biggest stage he's not but i agree he's one of the greatest regular season players ever. When there's no pressure he's a beast.

I mean yeah he has some decrease in his finals play but so did a lot of all time greats including Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant, Wilt, etc. Curry is still one of the best 15 FINALS players of all time at worse.

tpols
04-18-2021, 03:00 PM
His finishing and dribbling game looks even stronger than 2016 though. The reverse layups, and moves are just through the roof right now. In 2016 he was making more deep 3's. But games were usually over by the start of the last quarter.

highwhey
04-18-2021, 03:26 PM
i'm sure his teammates are glad he's averaging 31ppg instead of being a playoff seed :ohwell:

deathawaitu
04-18-2021, 03:38 PM
Top 3 mvp this year

Stephonit
04-18-2021, 03:39 PM
i'm sure his teammates are glad he's averaging 31ppg instead of being a playoff seed :ohwell:
I'm sure his teammates are too embarrassed about their own foibles to give him a hard time about it.

ArbitraryWater
04-18-2021, 03:42 PM
His haters are silly.

He's Shaq from outside.

warriorfan
04-18-2021, 04:00 PM
His haters are silly.

He's Shaq from outside.

Yes. The main difference is rather than bringing multiple defenders into the paint to open up outside shots, Curry brings out multiple defenders way past the 3 point line, opening up the lane for wide open dunks or layups.

light
04-18-2021, 04:21 PM
Only one other person has scored that many ppg on at least 60 EFG%...which is Curry in 2016.

The Curry haters look so dumb. Curry is basically the most efficient volume scorer of all time (besides maybe Jordan) which is amazing considering his stature. He even has a higher EFG% than peak Shaq. Curry also has his 6 rebs/assts per game as well this year, simply a beast like no other.

What does it matter if he's the most efficient volume scorer? His team is below .500 and he lost in the most embarrassing way in 2016 too.

This is essentially as insignificant as James Harden's scoring achievements.

mehyaM24
04-18-2021, 04:28 PM
What does it matter if he's the most efficient volume scorer? His team is below .500 and he lost in the most embarrassing way in 2016 too.

This is essentially as insignificant as James Harden's scoring achievements.

damn great insight. its almost like basketball is a team game.

highwhey
04-18-2021, 04:39 PM
Chris Paul elevated a bottom feeder team to the 2nd seed overnight, but curry can’t even crack the 8th seed.

Team Sport though! Superstar status!

Keep up the mental gymnastics. No one is expecting him to win a title with this squad, but making the playoffs is necessary to be categorized with the superstars of the league. You credit him with the Ws but blame the rest of the team when his chucking isn’t enough to win (completely disregarding his lack of playmaking and horrendous defense).

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hold this L
04-18-2021, 04:55 PM
Chris Paul elevated a bottom feeder team to the 2nd seed overnight, but curry can’t even crack the 8th seed.

Team Sport though! Superstar status!

Keep up the mental gymnastics. No one is expecting him to win a title with this squad, but making the playoffs is necessary to be categorized with the superstars of the league. You credit him with the Ws but blame the rest of the team when his chucking isn’t enough to win (completely disregarding his lack of playmaking and horrendous defense).

The Warriors should be making the playoffs, that is obvious. but your example as usual is missing more context because Curry lives rent free in your head. Suns went from 17th to 2nd, Warriors from 30th to 19th right now. However for the 8 games Curry didn't play, they went 1-7. In the games he's played, the record is .55 which puts the team 10th in the NBA. From 30th. If he stays fit for the rest of the season, I imagine the record with him on the roster will float around there if not improve.

This is a moot point since this conversation should be had when the regular season is over, not now. Unfortunately every single Warriors or Curry topic nowadays on ish is filled with the same 4-5 losers writing the same garbage and making the topics kind of pointless. Example number 1, the one I'm quoting.

warriorfan
04-18-2021, 05:13 PM
What does it matter if he's the most efficient volume scorer? His team is below .500 and he lost in the most embarrassing way in 2016 too.

This is essentially as insignificant as James Harden's scoring achievements.

Curry is playing like James Harden right now?

Nice take bro.

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Stephonit
04-18-2021, 05:33 PM
What does it matter if he's the most efficient volume scorer? His team is below .500 and he lost in the most embarrassing way in 2016 too.

This is essentially as insignificant as James Harden's scoring achievements.

Many would say James Harden's scoring achievements are significant. The problem is they're undermined by him not being able to back up these accomplishments and the accompanying expectations in the playoffs.

There is no such concern with Curry.

I'm sure there are those of you who invent such concerns like the ones saying he'd be exposed this season but at the end of the day Curry's record in recent years is the best.

Smoke117
04-18-2021, 05:38 PM
Kewl story bruh

tontoz
04-18-2021, 06:12 PM
Chris Paul elevated a bottom feeder team to the 2nd seed overnight, but curry can’t even crack the 8th seed.


That " bottom feeder team" went undefeated in the bubble against other playoff teams without Paul.

STFU clown

Full Court
04-18-2021, 06:16 PM
The kid has potential. It's a shame he doesn't have any iconic playoff moments.

highwhey
04-18-2021, 06:26 PM
That " bottom feeder team" went undefeated in the bubble against other playoff teams without Paul.

STFU clown

wow 8 games!!!

dumbass. they were clearly improving but they still had a bad season overall and it's not like it's cp3's first time improving a scrub team. mental gymnastics. curry has no excuses to not be in the playoffs period.

highwhey
04-18-2021, 06:29 PM
The Warriors should be making the playoffs, that is obvious. but your example as usual is missing more context because Curry lives rent free in your head. Suns went from 17th to 2nd, Warriors from 30th to 19th right now. However for the 8 games Curry didn't play, they went 1-7. In the games he's played, the record is .55 which puts the team 10th in the NBA. From 30th. If he stays fit for the rest of the season, I imagine the record with him on the roster will float around there if not improve.

This is a moot point since this conversation should be had when the regular season is over, not now. Unfortunately every single Warriors or Curry topic nowadays on ish is filled with the same 4-5 losers writing the same garbage and making the topics kind of pointless. Example number 1, the one I'm quoting.

it's a lot more difficult to take a team from 17th to 2nd than it is from 30th to 19th. A lot of those scrub teams are losing on purpose and the warriors added a high draft pick as well. not to mention cp3 isn't hyped as being an mpv caliber superstar player. that's the issue, you guys need to come to terms that while curry is an exceptional player, he isn't anywhere on LeBron's level nor KD's, etc. his offense is where his stardom starts and stops, very limited player as he can't playmake like LeBron or play game changing defense like other true superstars.

tontoz
04-18-2021, 06:31 PM
wow 8 games!!!

dumbass. they were clearly improving but they still had a bad season overall and it's not like it's cp3's first time improving a scrub team. mental gymnastics. curry has no excuses to not be in the playoffs period.

A team that barely missed the playoffs after going 8-0 in the bubble isn't a bottom feeder team dumbass.

And Curry has a very good excuse for missing the playoffs. They are 1-7 without him with a point differential of -15, a true bottom feeder team.

highwhey
04-18-2021, 06:35 PM
A team that barely missed the playoffs after going 8-0 in the bubble isn't a bottom feeder team dumbass.

And Curry has a very good excuse for missing the playoffs. They are 1-7 without him with a point differential of -15, a true bottom feeder team.

they were a bad team, there's no other discussion to be had about the suns from last season. were they as bad as the warriors last season? no, but they also weren't actively tanking the season. and neither the 2020 or 2021 suns have a player as hyped like curry. that's where you idiots stop using common sense. of course curry has a trash team, but he also isn't a LeBron or KD type of superstar player, sure, he can outshoot them and even score as much or better than them, but he doesn't have the same overall effect on the game like LeBron or KD. It's why he's a 10th seed right now instead of being a playoff team.

hold this L
04-18-2021, 06:35 PM
it's a lot more difficult to take a team from 17th to 2nd than it is from 30th to 19th. A lot of those scrub teams are losing on purpose and the warriors added a high draft pick as well. not to mention cp3 isn't hyped as being an mpv caliber superstar player. that's the issue, you guys need to come to terms that while curry is an exceptional player, he isn't anywhere on LeBron's level nor KD's, etc. his offense is where his stardom starts and stops, very limited player as he can't playmake like LeBron or play game changing defense like other true superstars.
But the team's record with him would be 10th in games that he plays though, that's the point. When he's fit, he has had a massive shift.

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I'm loving the argument. I remember early into the season, Curry isn't going to be able to dominate now that he has no help. You gotta cling on to something though, so I appreciate the A+ effort. :applause: Lets wait and see what he does for the rest of RS and if they make the PS, see what happens there. This entire conversation right now is based on what happens by the end of the season. Anybody at this point who doesn't think he hasn't been the most dominant NBA player this season is in denial.

StrongLurk
04-18-2021, 06:36 PM
You know the haters have lost when all they can do is point at team record.

highwhey
04-18-2021, 06:38 PM
But the team's record with him would be 10th in games that he plays though, that's the point. When he's fit, he has had a massive shift.

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I'm loving the argument. I remember early into the season, Curry isn't going to be able to dominate now that he has no help. You gotta cling on to something though, so I appreciate the A+ effort. :applause: Lets wait and see what he does for the rest of RS and if they make the PS, see what happens there. This entire conversation right now is based on what happens by the end of the season. Anybody at this point who doesn't think he hasn't been the most dominant NBA player this season is in denial.

you insert a gif about moving the goalposts while using a theoritical argument "he would be 10th if he wasn't injured"


LOL

guess what? Lakers could be 1st or 2nd if they didn't have an injured bron and AD. nuggets may have had a great playoffs if they weren't missing jamal. clippers may have gotten past the nuggets if kawhi and pg didn't choke.


if only. there's ZERO guarantee curry wins all those games. just because he's on a hot streak right now doesn't mean he would win those games.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
04-18-2021, 06:40 PM
Curry haters are legit ****ing retarded. Dude is having a WHALE of a year individually.

Lebron23
04-18-2021, 06:45 PM
He is having one of the best season of his nba career. Once Klay is healthy they are a playoffs team once again

highwhey
04-18-2021, 06:47 PM
He is having one of the best season of his nba career. Once Klay is healthy they are a playoffs team once again

:roll: this x10

Stephonit
04-18-2021, 06:47 PM
You know the haters have lost when all they can do is point at team record.

A team record that is about to be double what it was the previous year with 15 games to go and dependent on a guy who led teams to the all-time record. Yeah crazy. There's like no player in history dumber to criticize on this point.

RRR3
04-18-2021, 06:51 PM
A team record that is about to be double what it was the previous year with 15 games to go and dependent on a guy who led teams to the all-time record. Yeah crazy. There's like no player in history dumber to criticize on this point.
Gee I can think of a few.

tontoz
04-18-2021, 06:53 PM
they were a bad team, there's no other discussion to be had about the suns from last season. were they as bad as the warriors last season? no, but they also weren't actively tanking the season. and neither the 2020 or 2021 suns have a player as hyped like curry. that's where you idiots stop using common sense. of course curry has a trash team, but he also isn't a LeBron or KD type of superstar player, sure, he can outshoot them and even score as much or better than them, but he doesn't have the same overall effect on the game like LeBron or KD. It's why he's a 10th seed right now instead of being a playoff team.


KD and LeBron never had a cast this bad. The warriors point differential without Curry of -15 is far worse that the worst team in the league

The only reason the Suns missed the playoffs last year was injuries. Ayton and Baynes both missed half the season.

RRR3
04-18-2021, 06:55 PM
KD and LeBron never had a cast this bad. The warriors point differential without Curry of -15 is far worse that the worst team in the league

The only reason the Suns missed the playoffs last year was injuries. Ayton and Baynes both missed half the season.
Lol you should probably look up some of LeBron’s old Cleveland rosters.

highwhey
04-18-2021, 06:56 PM
KD and LeBron never had a cast this bad. The warriors point differential without Curry of -15 is far worse that the worst team in the league

The only reason the Suns missed the playoffs last year was injuries. Ayton and Baynes both missed half the season.

:roll:


this conversation is now over.

actually, moving forward, we will no longer have any interactions.

RRR3
04-18-2021, 07:00 PM
:roll:


this conversation is now over.

actually, moving forward, we will no longer have any interactions.
Same guy who said Gobert>Embiid. Good poster but lets his biases influence his posts too much.

tontoz
04-18-2021, 07:09 PM
Feel free to post any roster lebron ever had that was -15 without him. I won't hold my breath.

RRR3
04-18-2021, 07:13 PM
Feel free to post any roster lebron ever had that was -15 without him. I won't hold my breath.
10 Cavs: 61-21


LeBron leaves

11 Cavs: 19-63



Whew.

warriorfan
04-18-2021, 07:28 PM
10 Cavs: 61-21


LeBron leaves

11 Cavs: 19-63



Whew.



The Cavs not only lost their best player but they also essentially rebooted their entire franchise from top to bottom: the Cavs fired Coach Mike Brown (the 2009 NBA Coach of the Year) and shortly afterward General Manager Danny Ferry (the 2009 NBA Executive of the Year) resigned. For a combination of reasons, the Cavs did not retain the services of Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Shaquille O'Neal and Delonte West, three key players in the team's eight man rotation: Ilgauskas and O'Neal had split most of the minutes in the middle and the Cavs have yet to make up for the significant loss of size in the paint; I mentioned this factor in my season preview and yet I have to confess that even I underestimated just how damaging this would be. West had been the team's most versatile player (and best wing defender) other than James. Some might argue that Ilgauskas, O'Neal and West did not have much impact during the 2011 season and thus the Cavs would have declined anyway even if James had re-signed with Cleveland but that misses the point on two counts: one, those guys played a key role in Cleveland's success (and thus needed to either be retained or adequately replaced); two, if James had re-signed with Cleveland and recruited players the way that he did when he joined the Heat then the Cavs would have been able to put viable players around James much the way that they had done in previous years. The fact that Ilgauskas, O'Neal and West were not top level players in 2011 does not change the reality that they played key roles in Cleveland's success the previous two seasons and thus their collective absences were keenly felt by the 2011 Cavs.





The Cavs had been a very deep team prior to the 2011 season but they began the season with a decent starting lineup and very little bench strength; their margin of error for injuries (or even foul trouble) was quite slim and that is another factor that I should have emphasized more in my season preview: it would have been more precise for me to say that the Cavs could win 35-40 games if everything went right but that a key injury or two would reduce that total to the 25-30 game range. No one could have rationally foreseen that the Cavs would fail to win even 20 games (the yahoo who made that prediction also said that James would lead the Heat to 70-plus wins and a championship, so he was clearly making his picks based not on rational logic but rather on being a biased James fan).




The Cavs' key players were never completely healthy at the same time in 2010-11; Antawn Jamison and Mo Williams began the season with nagging injuries but then the death blow to any hope for the Cavs arrived when Anderson Varejao--the team's only credible inside player--suffered a season-ending injury. Near the end of the season, Coach Byron Scott remarked, "I remember telling my assistants that the one player we couldn't afford to lose was Andy (Varejao). A week later, he was out for the season.”


Scott did a solid job coaching the patchwork team that remained after the roster was gutted by the departures of James, Ilgauskas, O'Neal and West plus the various injuries that sidelined key players but he made a strategic error by trying to use the Princeton Offense despite having a roster ill-equipped to run it effectively. Specifically, even if the Cavs had been at full strength they did not have a center who could pass well out of the high post, a deficiency that Princeton Offense guru Pete Carril noted when he was asked about the Cavs late in the season: "When he (Scott) was in New Jersey, they went to the Finals two times and he had the right kind of players for that offense--they were unselfish and they passed the ball. That's not the same kind of team as this. I'm hopeful he'll see he better go in a different direction. If you can't run a high pick-and-roll, you're done for. That's the only thing nobody stops. The Princeton offense has been around for such a long time that I think it may have worn out its usefulness. If he had a center that could pass the ball better, it'd be better." Scott eventually gave up trying to run the Princeton offense but only after the Cavs had already suffered a devastating 26 game losing streak.


After Cleveland lost 99-96 to Dallas--tying the NBA record for consecutive defeats (25)--Jamison said, "Let's be honest. One guy did a lot for this organization, for the city of Cleveland, for the game in general. [But] before the season we had Andy, Mo, myself, a couple veterans here and there. You think this is still a unit that can win and compete. We believed that. And still believe that. [Now] we've just got to keep competing." ESPN's Marc Stein added, "As one Eastern Conference scout colorfully explained in a recent Weekend Dime, Cleveland minus the injured Anderson Varejao and Mo Williams is 'a summer-league team and Antawn Jamison.'"


The 2009 Cavs went 66-16 with an eight man rotation (based on total minutes played) of LeBron James (3054), Mo Williams (2834), Anderson Varejao (2306), Delonte West (2152), Daniel Gibson (1795), Zydrunas Ilgauskas (1765), Wally Szczerbiak (1527) and Ben Wallace (1314); the same players (in slightly different order) also led the team in minutes per game.

The 2010 Cavs went 61-21 with an eight man rotation (based on total minutes played) of LeBron James (2966), Mo Williams (2359), Anthony Parker (2289), Anderson Varejao (2166), J.J. Hickson (1691), Delonte West (1500), Zydrunas Ilgauskas (1339) and Shaquille O'Neal (1240); the same players (in slightly different order) led the team in minutes per game, with Antawn Jamison (32.4 mpg in 25 games) joining the team down the stretch and Hickson and Ilgauskas each averaging 20.9 mpg overall as the eighth/ninth men in a very deep frontcourt rotation.

The 2011 Cavs went 19-63 with an eight man rotation (based on total minutes played) of J.J. Hickson (2256), Ramon Sessions (2133), Anthony Parker (2091), Daniel Gibson (1865), Antawn Jamison (1842), Ryan Hollins (1182), Mo Williams (1065) and Anderson Varejao (994). Williams played in just 36 games before being traded for Baron Davis (who ranked eighth on the team in minutes per game but only played in 15 games as a Cav), while Varejao played in just 31 games. That roster has no quality legitimate big men (other than the injured Varejao) and bears little resemblance to the previous two rosters.

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warriorfan
04-18-2021, 07:33 PM
For those who cannot be bothered to compare/contrast the data in the previous three paragraphs, the 2011 Cavs' eight man rotation contained just three players from the 2010 squad's eight man rotation: the inconsistent Hickson--now thrust into the role as the team's leader in minutes played--plus the injured Varejao and Williams, who was limited by nagging injuries before being traded to the Clippers. The 2011 Cavs' eight man rotation also included just three players from the 2009 squad's eight man rotation: Gibson (a non-starting three point specialist in 2009 who started 15 games in 2011) plus the aforementioned Williams and Varejao. If Jamison, Williams and Varejao had been the 2011 Cavs' top three players in minutes played (instead of fifth, seventh and eighth respectively) the Cavs would have posted a much better record. James' departure probably cost the Cavs about 10 to 15 wins but the rest of the decline stemmed from the upheaval involved with changing the team's front office/coaching staff combined with the injuries and roster moves that drastically changed the eight man rotation.

It is fine to rhapsodize about LeBron James' greatness as a regular season performer--I picked him as the 2011 MVP--but James' abilities are proven by what he accomplished in Miami, not by the sagging fortunes of a rebooted franchise plagued by injuries, bereft of depth and lacking a legit big man. I fully realize that the Cavs' 2011 season will likely be used indefinitely as an easy punchline to "confirm" James' value but I sincerely hope that at some point people will eventually come to their senses and appreciate the logical points stated in the preceding paragraphs; the discussion of NBA basketball should not forever be dominated by wrongheaded "stat gurus," misinformed media members and amateur writers plucked out of nowhere for 15 minutes of fame as part of the self-proclaimed "Worldwide Leader's" blogging network. The sport--and the writing profession--both deserve much better than that.

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tontoz
04-18-2021, 08:00 PM
10 Cavs: 61-21


LeBron leaves

11 Cavs: 19-63



Whew.


The 2011 cavs had a point differential of -9. Only 6 points away. Nice try though.

-Let's not forget jamison missed 26 games.
-They dumped mo williams for the corpse of baron davis who then missed a bunch of games and retired the following year.
-Varejao missed 56 games.

Thanks for trying though.

Axe
04-18-2021, 08:12 PM
Chris Paul elevated a bottom feeder team to the 2nd seed overnight, but curry can’t even crack the 8th seed.

Team Sport though! Superstar status!

Keep up the mental gymnastics. No one is expecting him to win a title with this squad, but making the playoffs is necessary to be categorized with the superstars of the league. You credit him with the Ws but blame the rest of the team when his chucking isn’t enough to win (completely disregarding his lack of playmaking and horrendous defense).

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Axe
04-18-2021, 08:13 PM
The Warriors should be making the playoffs, that is obvious. but your example as usual is missing more context because Curry lives rent free in your head. Suns went from 17th to 2nd, Warriors from 30th to 19th right now. However for the 8 games Curry didn't play, they went 1-7. In the games he's played, the record is .55 which puts the team 10th in the NBA. From 30th. If he stays fit for the rest of the season, I imagine the record with him on the roster will float around there if not improve.

This is a moot point since this conversation should be had when the regular season is over, not now. Unfortunately every single Warriors or Curry topic nowadays on ish is filled with the same 4-5 losers writing the same garbage and making the topics kind of pointless. Example number 1, the one I'm quoting.
Sure there's a guarantee they make the playoffs. That is if they play in the much inferior conference but unfortunately, they don't.

hold this L
04-18-2021, 08:15 PM
you insert a gif about moving the goalposts while using a theoritical argument "he would be 10th if he wasn't injured"


LOL

guess what? Lakers could be 1st or 2nd if they didn't have an injured bron and AD. nuggets may have had a great playoffs if they weren't missing jamal. clippers may have gotten past the nuggets if kawhi and pg didn't choke.


if only. there's ZERO guarantee curry wins all those games. just because he's on a hot streak right now doesn't mean he would win those games.
I never said he helps the team win all those games, but his record when he plays is that of a .55 team which would be 10th in the NBA right now. I don't even know how your hypothetical argument makes any sense, especially Kawhi or PG choking. That's a moronic attempt at a comparison. And Lakers would 100% be 1st or 2nd if Lebron and AD didn't get injured, that is obvious. I have no idea why you're writing this because I'm sure everyone would agree with that. That team will go as far as those two will lead them. Steph's achilles heel has always been his injury history. The tailbone is obviously a freak injury, but that's his weakness. My point was that when he plays, he is having a generational difference, not padding the stats. I don't even care about a hypothetical how many games does he help them win when he was injured, since I focusing on the games he actually played.


Also, why have you turned into such a dumbass since corona hit? You didn't talk about basketball anymore, every topic I see you in you're desperate for attention as if this forum is NBA twitter. What the hell happened to you?

warriorfan
04-18-2021, 09:19 PM
I never said he helps the team win all those games, but his record when he plays is that of a .55 team which would be 10th in the NBA right now. I don't even know how your hypothetical argument makes any sense, especially Kawhi or PG choking. That's a moronic attempt at a comparison. And Lakers would 100% be 1st or 2nd if Lebron and AD didn't get injured, that is obvious. I have no idea why you're writing this because I'm sure everyone would agree with that. That team will go as far as those two will lead them. Steph's achilles heel has always been his injury history. The tailbone is obviously a freak injury, but that's his weakness. My point was that when he plays, he is having a generational difference, not padding the stats. I don't even care about a hypothetical how many games does he help them win when he was injured, since I focusing on the games he actually played.


Also, why have you turned into such a dumbass since corona hit? You didn't talk about basketball anymore, every topic I see you in you're desperate for attention as if this forum is NBA twitter. What the hell happened to you?

Loneliness caused by obesity

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StrongLurk
04-19-2021, 10:59 PM
Curry with 49 points tonight.

Averaging 45ppg over his last 5 games, include NINE made three per game...NINE.

The league is lucky that Klay got hurt again.

Gohan
04-19-2021, 11:16 PM
Lol you should probably look up some of LeBron’s old Cleveland rosters.

No it’s not even close. Lebron didn’t carry nothing like curry has. One of the best players I’ve ever seen

Axe
04-19-2021, 11:18 PM
Curry with 49 points tonight.

Averaging 45ppg over his last 5 games, include NINE made three per game...NINE.

The league is lucky that Klay got hurt again.
Lol the warriors aren't even the same team without their finals mvps and they've gotten older too nowadays.

CTbasketball92
04-19-2021, 11:35 PM
According to BBAll Reference, LeBron had a 21.6 net rating in 2008-2009, the year he lead the Cavs to 66 wins. Offense improved by 13 points with him on the court, defense by 8. That's a carry job that's at minimum as good as anyone else's ever. But LeBron is arguably the greatest player ever.

What I'll say is this. The argument that Steph isn't a good floor raiser is kind of over now. 45-win pace with him. 1-7 without him. I do think Wiggins has been better than he's been given credit for and Draymond's been a top 50ish player this year and immensely helpful on defense and even offense in some ways. But Steph is doing a carry job. If he had a legit above average scorer/playmaker (maybe get rid of Oubre), maybe a CJ McCollum or even Bogdan or whoever that is from the Hawks, the Warriors would be in the playoffs easily. He could just use someone to take some pressure on him and do anything by themselves. They have a good defense.

If Klay were here, with Wiggins moving down to 3rd scoring option and Oubre being fourth, this Warriors team could be a 3 seed. Steph's been amazing, I'll never imply he's got a serious shortcoming again.

Stephonit
04-20-2021, 01:48 AM
According to BBAll Reference, LeBron had a 21.6 net rating in 2008-2009, the year he lead the Cavs to 66 wins. Offense improved by 13 points with him on the court, defense by 8. That's a carry job that's at minimum as good as anyone else's ever. But LeBron is arguably the greatest player ever.

What I'll say is this. The argument that Steph isn't a good floor raiser is kind of over now. 45-win pace with him. 1-7 without him. I do think Wiggins has been better than he's been given credit for and Draymond's been a top 50ish player this year and immensely helpful on defense and even offense in some ways. But Steph is doing a carry job. If he had a legit above average scorer/playmaker (maybe get rid of Oubre), maybe a CJ McCollum or even Bogdan or whoever that is from the Hawks, the Warriors would be in the playoffs easily. He could just use someone to take some pressure on him and do anything by themselves. They have a good defense.

If Klay were here, with Wiggins moving down to 3rd scoring option and Oubre being fourth, this Warriors team could be a 3 seed. Steph's been amazing, I'll never imply he's got a serious shortcoming again.

You haven't seen the on-off analysis done with Curry on this team. BBRef shows net on-off at 9.2. A deeper dive would reveal though that for much of the season Wiseman was dragging the team's net rating down considerably. Without Wiseman, the team's offensive rating with Steph jumps 13 points.

Are you referring to LeBron's highest net on-off at 21.2? Remember that Curry's highest in the 2016 season is 22.6. Curry is in no way in LeBron's shadow when it comes to these metrics.

RRR3
04-20-2021, 01:56 AM
Net rating is not the same as on/off. I wouldn’t be surprised if 09 Bron has the best impact stats ever btw. Just god mode that year.

RRR3
04-20-2021, 01:57 AM
No it’s not even close. Lebron didn’t carry nothing like curry has. One of the best players I’ve ever seen
LeBron led trash to 66 wins. You’re a dumb butthurt Clonkerson stan. Stfu.

DoctorP
04-20-2021, 05:08 AM
Good for Curry. This is what he needs to be doing on his weak team... completely kill and set records.

He's doing it. Congrats

HoopsNY
04-20-2021, 11:48 AM
Chris Paul elevated a bottom feeder team to the 2nd seed overnight, but curry can’t even crack the 8th seed.

Team Sport though! Superstar status!

Keep up the mental gymnastics. No one is expecting him to win a title with this squad, but making the playoffs is necessary to be categorized with the superstars of the league. You credit him with the Ws but blame the rest of the team when his chucking isn’t enough to win (completely disregarding his lack of playmaking and horrendous defense).

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Phoenix had a 34-39 record a year ago, good for the 10th seed. They were 8-0 in the bubble as well, so they finished strong. Plus, Devin Booker is better than anyone on Steph's supporting cast.

The Warriors were 15-50 a year ago. They're currently 28-22 and were 1-7 this season without Steph on the floor as is. If he plays those 8 games, GS is likely around 33-25.

Give the man his respect. His impact cannot be ignored.

3ball
04-20-2021, 12:01 PM
Curry isn't a 20 ppg player without the 3-point line

He's a soccer player in the 70's, 80's or 90's

ImKobe
04-20-2021, 12:09 PM
Curry isn't a 20 ppg player without the 3-point line

He's a soccer player in the 70's, 80's or 90's

If Reggie did it in the late 80s-mid-2000s, why couldn't Steph do the same or even better?

3ball
04-20-2021, 12:10 PM
If Reggie did it in the late 80s-mid-2000s, why couldn't Steph do the same or even better?


Reggie averaged like 17 for his career, just like Curry would in those eras

Reggie was also a 6'7" pure scorer that could live off 2's

ImKobe
04-20-2021, 12:18 PM
Reggie averaged like 17 for his career, just like Curry would in those eras

Reggie was also a 6'7" pure scorer that could live off 2's

Reggie was taller but not as athletic/quick as Steph is and obviously didn't have the handles. Steph's also a point guard so at worst I see him as a 20 ppg 8 ast type player, depending on what offense he plays in. Steph on those 90s Warriors under Don Nelson though? 25+ ppg if Tim Hardaway was capable of averaging 23 at 5-11. Those teams played at a similar or even higher pace in some of those years.

3ball
04-20-2021, 12:21 PM
Reggie was taller but not as athletic/quick as Steph is and obviously didn't have the handles. Steph's also a point guard so at worst I see him as a 20 ppg 8 ast type player, depending on what offense he plays in. Steph on those 90s Warriors under Don Nelson though? 25+ ppg if Tim Hardaway was capable of averaging 23 at 5-11. Those teams played at a similar or even higher pace in some of those years.


Curry is bad at 2-pointers compared to Tim Hardaway, who was much stronger, quicker and explosive than Curry

Curry needs threes to consistently score at elite levels

With only 2's, he wouldn't even play basketball in high school

Regardless, he wouldn't be anywhere near scoring champ or MVP, similar to Reggie or Hardaway

tontoz
04-20-2021, 12:24 PM
Reggie averaged like 17 for his career, just like Curry would in those eras

Reggie was also a 6'7" pure scorer that could live off 2's



Nonsense. Steph is averaging 5 made 3s per game. Change those to 2s and he is still averaging 26.

Math isn't your strength obviously

tontoz
04-20-2021, 12:25 PM
Curry is bad at 2-pointers compared to Tim Hardaway, who was much stronger, quicker and explosive than Curry

Curry needs threes to consistently score at elite levels

With only 2's, he wouldn't even play basketball in high school

Regardless, he wouldn't be anywhere near scoring champ or MVP, similar to Reggie or Hardaway


More nonsense. Hardaway never shot over 50% on 2s for a season. Steph is currently shooting 57.3% on 2s, 52% for his career.

HoopsNY
04-20-2021, 12:28 PM
Curry isn't a 20 ppg player without the 3-point line

He's a soccer player in the 70's, 80's or 90's

Stop hatin.

hold this L
04-20-2021, 12:32 PM
2ball is the only moron on the site I have on ignore. I'd rather read Simon and his 300 personalities on ish troll all day and night than read this clown's messages.

8Ball
04-20-2021, 12:34 PM
2ball is the only moron on the site I have on ignore. I'd rather read Simon and his 300 personalities on ish troll all day and night than read this clown's messages.

He's upset that Curry won 73 games (more than Jordan's 72).

That upset will go to his grave.

Axe
04-20-2021, 07:35 PM
2ball is the only moron on the site I have on ignore. I'd rather read Simon and his 300 personalities on ish troll all day and night than read this clown's messages.
2ball?

Axe
06-19-2022, 08:56 AM
Curry isn't a 20 ppg player without the 3-point line

He's a soccer player in the 70's, 80's or 90's
:roll:

Shooter
06-19-2022, 10:51 AM
Curry isn't a 20 ppg player without the 3-point line

He's a soccer player in the 70's, 80's or 90's

Mhmm....I thought he was top 2 goat candidate?

SouBeachTalents
06-19-2022, 11:17 AM
Guys, he said that shit a long time ago. Curry was just 33 and only in his 12th season at the time, how was he supposed to know he'd blossom into a top 2 player ever within a year.

tontoz
06-19-2022, 12:25 PM
Guys, he said that shit a long time ago. Curry was just 33 and only in his 12th season at the time, how was he supposed to know he'd blossom into a top 2 player ever within a year.


Funny thing is that Curry was much better last season.

1987_Lakers
06-19-2022, 12:48 PM
Curry isn't a 20 ppg player without the 3-point line

He's a soccer player in the 70's, 80's or 90's

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