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3ball
04-19-2021, 03:49 PM
aka he can't win with scoring because his scoring style lacks the best strategy (ball movement, elite jumpshooting skill, aka quick-hitter)

AirBonner
04-19-2021, 03:54 PM
aka he can't win with scoring because his scoring style lacks the best strategy (ball movement, elite jumpshooting skill, aka quick-hitter)

LeBron is a better offensive player in the playoffs than MJ. 7k vs 5k

3ball
04-19-2021, 03:55 PM
LeBron is a better offensive player in the playoffs than MJ. 7k vs 5k


He does less per game... a lot less... 5 less points on less efficiency per possession

He also does less per possession... 7 less points per 100 with less efficiency on those possessions

Yikes

RRR3
04-19-2021, 04:18 PM
LeBron’s efficiency is notably higher than MJ’s in the playoffs. Babbleball making shit up yet again.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
04-19-2021, 04:19 PM
Another day, another Bron thread for geekball. The obsession is palpable.

3ball
04-19-2021, 04:23 PM
LeBron’s efficiency is notably higher than MJ’s in the playoffs. Babbleball making shit up yet again.


Efficiency per possession - PLAYOFFS

Jordan 118
Lebron 117


So Jordan produces more per possession due to lower turnovers coupled with similar shooting efficiency (TS and FG)

Btw, Lebron's slightly higher shooting efficiency comes from a greater proportion of dribble-intensive rim attacks that sacrifice team offense compared to the ball movement facitated by Jordan's jumpshooting

RRR3
04-19-2021, 04:25 PM
Efficiency per possession - PLAYOFFS

Jordan 118
Lebron 117


So Jordan produces more per possession due to lower turnovers coupled with similar shooting efficiency (TS and FG)

Btw, Lebron's slightly higher shooting efficiency comes from a greater proportion of dribble-intensive rim attacks that sacrifice team offense compared to the ball movement facitated by Jordan's jumpshooting
Lol ORTG. Mitchell Robinson is a legend according to that stat. Do better retard

AirBonner
04-19-2021, 04:37 PM
MJ would be Jamal Murray equivalent in the modern league

8Ball
04-19-2021, 04:38 PM
aka he can't win with scoring because his scoring style lacks the best strategy (ball movement, elite jumpshooting skill, aka quick-hitter)

Jordan averaged 40 ppg in the 1st round and still lost.

Can't win with scoring either.

Needs Pippen.

3ball
04-19-2021, 04:38 PM
Lol ORTG. Mitchell Robinson is a legend according to that stat. Do better retard


It's the most accurate measure for players that play the same role (have the same usage), aka 1st option, 2nd option, etc

3ball
04-19-2021, 04:39 PM
Jordan averaged 40 ppg in the 1st round and still lost.

Can't win with scoring either.

Needs Pippen.


Jordan won many series with 40 ppg, including the Finals or against the #1 SRS team

Otoh, lebron can't win with 35 ppg because his high scoring = over-dribbling, aka inferior strategy

Otoh, Jordan frequently got 40-50 or more on all jumpers, thereby facilitating ball movement (the best strategy)

It's funny because Stan Van Gundy said they WANTED lebron to "go ahead and dribble and get stats"

8Ball
04-19-2021, 04:40 PM
How many series did Jordan win scoring 40ppg without Pippen?

Jordan without Pippen is 1-9.

Jordan does not know how to win any series without Pippen.

RRR3
04-19-2021, 04:42 PM
It's the most accurate measure for players that play the same role (have the same usage), aka 1st option, 2nd option, etc
No it isn’t. Who told you that? You’re a retard.

3ball
04-19-2021, 04:44 PM
How many series did Jordan win scoring 40ppg without Pippen?

Jordan without Pippen is 1-9.

Jordan does not know how to win any series without Pippen.


That was Jordan's first couple seasons where everyone loses unless they weren't drafted to a great team - Giannis, Durant, Lebron, Curry and everyone lost in their first couple years

So that isn't a knock on Jordan, yet it's your biggest criticism, aka MJ GOAT

8Ball
04-19-2021, 05:03 PM
That was Jordan's first couple seasons where everyone loses unless they weren't drafted to a great team - Giannis, Durant, Lebron, Curry and everyone lost in their first couple years

So that isn't a knock on Jordan, yet it's your biggest criticism, aka MJ GOAT

It is a knock on Jordan.

Jordan's selfish Carmelo Ball chucking can only win playoff series if he has a Pippen with him to do everything else just to win 1 playoff series.

8Ball
04-19-2021, 05:05 PM
Jordan can't win playoff series with 40 ppg averages without Pippen doing everything else for him.

thats why jordan quit in 1998 when Pippen was no longer going to be there.

3ball
04-19-2021, 05:11 PM
It is a knock on Jordan.

Jordan's selfish Carmelo Ball chucking can only win playoff series if he has a Pippen with him to do everything else just to win 1 playoff series.


It's a knock on everyone, so it's a knock that doesn't matter

Jordan simply had a perfect career by building a lottery team into dynasty organically and via massive upset (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPo7lPyAlc&t=17m28s), without needing super-teams or 1b's

6 titles without super-teams or 1b's, aka G.O.A.T

tontoz
04-19-2021, 05:17 PM
The march to 32k posts on one topic continues. :facepalm

3ball
04-19-2021, 05:20 PM
The march to 32k posts on one topic continues. :facepalm


If only I knew in post #1 to say: "6 titles without super-teams or 1b's"

Boom.... everyone would respond and get destroyed.. I'd be retired by post 150

RRR3
04-19-2021, 05:35 PM
If only I knew in post #1 to say: "6 titles without super-teams or 1b's"

Boom.... everyone would respond and get destroyed.. I'd be retired by post 150
Ok. You said it. Now retire.

8Ball
04-19-2021, 05:56 PM
It's a knock on everyone, so it's a knock that doesn't matter

Jordan simply had a perfect career by building a lottery team into dynasty organically and via massive upset (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPo7lPyAlc&t=17m28s), without needing super-teams or 1b's

6 titles without super-teams or 1b's, aka G.O.A.T

Perfect career?

Jordan got swept 3 first rounds in a row and never won .500 without Pippen.

Jordan's career is also too short with only 11 all-nba teams vs LeBron's 17.

Jordan is a mediocre Kyrie level passer.

8Ball
04-19-2021, 05:57 PM
If only I knew in post #1 to say: "6 titles without super-teams or 1b's"

Boom.... everyone would respond and get destroyed.. I'd be retired by post 150

Jordan had a super team in all 6 of his championships. Like Bill Russel's Celtics vs the competition.

Wally450
04-19-2021, 05:59 PM
Thread 2,004,476 about LeBron from OP.

ELITEpower23
04-19-2021, 06:39 PM
LeBron is a better offensive player in the playoffs than MJ. 7k vs 5k

That's all we need on this matter.