View Full Version : Debunking the 1-9 w/o Pippen garbage!
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 07:31 AM
Have any of you stopped and checked out how good those 3 teams were?
85 Bucks
86 Celts
87 Celts = 185 - 61
07 spurs
17 warriors
18 warriors = 183 - 63
So how did lebron went? 1 - 9 lol
No pip = 1/9
Who was lebron missing?
Jordan was a newbie, injured his 2nd year, no team
Lebron had experience, health, help
So much bragging about how lebron faced dynasties in the finanls and Jordan's first 3 opponents had better records lololololololol
Talk about grasping as straws. Take this hugeeeeee L
ImKobe
04-22-2021, 01:22 PM
Lebron actually went 1 - 12 in the series you posted, Jordan's 1st rounds were BO5 so he got swept in 3 games.
FireDavidKahn
04-22-2021, 01:27 PM
There is nothing to debunk.
It is a fact.
aj1987
04-22-2021, 01:27 PM
Retard, you're comparing first round losses to Finals losses.
How come the "GOAT" couldn't EVER get a winning record without Pippen? :roll: :roll:
ImKobe
04-22-2021, 01:36 PM
Retard, you're comparing first round losses to Finals losses.
How come the "GOAT" couldn't EVER get a winning record without Pippen? :roll: :roll:
Are you stupid? The Bulls were 26 - 12 in '98 without Pippen.. What about '95, when the Bulls were barely above .500 and 13 - 4 once MJ returned and 72 - 10 the next season?
Smoke117
04-22-2021, 01:37 PM
There is nothing to debunk.
It is a fact.
/thread
Smoke117
04-22-2021, 01:40 PM
Are you stupid? The Bulls were 26 - 12 in '98 without Pippen.. What about '95, when the Bulls were barely above .500 and 13 - 4 once MJ returned and 72 - 10 the next season?
The Bulls were 8-2 in their last ten before Jordan came back and Pippen even having a team that lost the best player in the world and Horace Grant for Toni Kukoc and Pete Myers even over .500 was impressive.
aj1987
04-22-2021, 01:55 PM
Are you stupid? The Bulls were 26 - 12 in '98 without Pippen.. What about '95, when the Bulls were barely above .500 and 13 - 4 once MJ returned and 72 - 10 the next season?
I wasn't responding to you, but since you wanted to chime in with your usual autistic takes:
1. The '94 Bulls without 1-9 won 55 games. Just 2 short of the 57 wins the previous season.
2. The '89 Bulls won 47 games. That was 1-9's 5th season in the league.
3. 1-9 won 40 games (below .500) in '87. Three years into the league and 100% healthy.
4. 72 win season? You keep bitching about LeBron stacking the deck, but those Bulls were ATG stacked.
5. Again, 1-9 has ZERO winning seasons without Pippen. That's a FACT.
As for the rest:
The Bulls were 8-2 in their last ten before Jordan came back and Pippen even having a team that lost the best player in the world and Horace Grant for Toni Kukoc and Pete Myers even over .500 was impressive.
Thanks to Smoke.
3ball
04-22-2021, 02:08 PM
Jordan gets knocked by new fans for losing as the 8 seed but few players are good enough to drag a legit lottery team (a team that was lottery the prior year) to the 8 seed
Lebron failed to carry lottery teams to the 8 seed in 04', 05', and 19' - he only made the playoffs with developed, high seeds and easy 1st Round matchups.. if his 9 seeds in those years were 8 seeds, they would've been smashed in the 1st Round
BlackMamba8
04-22-2021, 02:14 PM
I wasn't responding to you, but since you wanted to chime in with your usual autistic takes:
1. The '94 Bulls without 1-9 won 55 games. Just 2 short of the 57 wins the previous season.
2. The '89 Bulls won 47 games. That was 1-9's 5th season in the league.
3. 1-9 won 40 games (below .500) in '87. Three years into the league and 100% healthy.
4. 72 win season? You keep bitching about LeBron stacking the deck, but those Bulls were ATG stacked.
5. Again, 1-9 has ZERO winning seasons without Pippen. That's a FACT.
As for the rest:
The Bulls were 8-2 in their last ten before Jordan came back and Pippen even having a team that lost the best player in the world and Horace Grant for Toni Kukoc and Pete Myers even over .500 was impressive.
Thanks to Smoke.
https://i.ibb.co/8PWBs75/MJ-LEBUM.jpg (https://ibb.co/BTXP3CZ)
https://i.ibb.co/RSxvF0z/IMG-1455.jpg (https://ibb.co/rtC7j64)
Ok, now you can STFU
Lebron23
04-22-2021, 02:22 PM
https://i.ibb.co/8PWBs75/MJ-LEBUM.jpg (https://ibb.co/BTXP3CZ)
https://i.ibb.co/RSxvF0z/IMG-1455.jpg (https://ibb.co/rtC7j64)
Ok, now you can STFU
Also failed to lead the wizards in the playoffs in 2002 and 2003 despite playing with some former and future nba all stars.
BlackMamba8
04-22-2021, 02:23 PM
Also failed to lead the wizards in the playoffs in 2002 and 2003 despite playing with some former and future nba all stars.
He was 40 years old, bro are you dumb?
aj1987
04-22-2021, 02:23 PM
https://i.ibb.co/8PWBs75/MJ-LEBUM.jpg (https://ibb.co/BTXP3CZ)
https://i.ibb.co/RSxvF0z/IMG-1455.jpg (https://ibb.co/rtC7j64)
Ok, now you can STFU
https://i.postimg.cc/VLBM7xSq/FB-IMG-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CM8b8BS6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
Ok, now you can STFU.
BlackMamba8
04-22-2021, 02:25 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VLBM7xSq/FB-IMG-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CM8b8BS6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
Ok, now you can STFU.
lol, you are blinded kid, imagine being the favorite most of the time and still winning only 4 out of 10......LOL, always needed the most help and still winning only 4 times....damn, you must like a sad life
Lebron23
04-22-2021, 02:28 PM
He was 40 years old, bro are you dumb?
He retired several times. You stupid Pinoy. A 36 years old LeBron has more mileage than Jordan.
GrayGoat
04-22-2021, 02:29 PM
Nothing to debunk
Lebron23
04-22-2021, 02:30 PM
lol, you are blinded kid, imagine being the favorite most of the time and still winning only 4 out of 10......LOL, always needed the most help and still winning only 4 times....damn, you must like a sad life
Lebron was only favorite to win that championship in 2020. He was the under dog in majority of the nba finals that he played.
Bankaii
04-22-2021, 02:34 PM
So you’re telling me that having a terrible record leads to more difficult matchups:eek:
Why couldn’t a 23 year old GOAT lead his team to better than the 8th seed?
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:35 PM
Lebron actually went 1 - 12 in the series you posted, Jordan's 1st rounds were BO5 so he got swept in 3 games.
Lol. That is worse. Thanks
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:38 PM
So you’re telling me that having a terrible record leads to more difficult matchups:eek:
Why couldn’t a 23 year old GOAT lead his team to better than the 8th seed?
What year was that? 86?
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:39 PM
Retard, you're comparing first round losses to Finals losses.
How come the "GOAT" couldn't EVER get a winning record without Pippen? :roll: :roll:
Same quality of opponent fool. Are you blind? Doesn't matter what round you faced them
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:40 PM
There is nothing to debunk.
It is a fact.
I know its a fact. But those teams were better and jordan was alone. Whats the excuse for prime lebron? Same results, more help. Sorry
8Ball
04-22-2021, 02:42 PM
Have any of you stopped and checked out how good those 3 teams were?
85 Bucks
86 Celts
87 Celts = 185 - 61
07 spurs
17 warriors
18 warriors = 183 - 63
So how did lebron went? 1 - 9 lol
No pip = 1/9
Who was lebron missing?
Jordan was a newbie, injured his 2nd year, no team
Lebron had experience, health, help
So much bragging about how lebron faced dynasties in the finanls and Jordan's first 3 opponents had better records lololololololol
Talk about grasping as straws. Take this hugeeeeee L
Meltdown.
1-9 and Pippen won 55 games without Jordan
aj1987
04-22-2021, 02:42 PM
lol, you are blinded kid, imagine being the favorite most of the time and still winning only 4 out of 10......LOL, always needed the most help and still winning only 4 times....damn, you must like a sad life
Except for the FACT that LeBron was almost always the underdog in his Finals runs. That's just a straight up FACT, kid. BTW, how pathetic is a player, who could never attain a winning record without Pippen. Not winning a title or making the Finals. Just a winning record.
Nice alt though, midget24. Go back flipping burgers. :cheers:
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:43 PM
https://i.ibb.co/8PWBs75/MJ-LEBUM.jpg (https://ibb.co/BTXP3CZ)
https://i.ibb.co/RSxvF0z/IMG-1455.jpg (https://ibb.co/rtC7j64)
Ok, now you can STFU
All the info is there. Cristal clear, plain english. Lets hope their limited reading comprehension is enough lol
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:44 PM
Also failed to lead the wizards in the playoffs in 2002 and 2003 despite playing with some former and future nba all stars.
Sh!t im out of arguments, let me jump to the wizard years and ignore the knew injury completely lol
aj1987
04-22-2021, 02:46 PM
All the info is there. Cristal clear, plain english. Lets hope their limited reading comprehension is enough lol
Agreed. Let me repost the facts.
https://i.postimg.cc/VLBM7xSq/FB-IMG-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CM8b8BS6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:46 PM
Meltdown.
1-9 and Pippen won 55 games without Jordan
1 - 12 with help , Jordan's first 3 opponents, better record
Deal with it
8Ball
04-22-2021, 02:47 PM
Sh!t im out of arguments, let me jump to the wizard years and ignore the knew injury completely lol
LeBron made the finals with Larry Hughes.
3ball said Larry Hughes > Pippen.
Jordan couldn't make the playoffs with Larry Hughes.
mehyaM24
04-22-2021, 02:47 PM
so by op's logic, 88 jordan lost to an inferior team than the 18 celtics - who lebron beat to make the finals.
the 18 celtics went 55-27. 88 detroit, who PRIME jordan lost to, WITH PIPPEN, went 54-28.
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:48 PM
agreed. Let me repost the facts.
https://i.postimg.cc/vlbm7xsq/fb-img-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cm8b8bs6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
d.a.m.a.g.e c.o.n.t.r.ol l.m.a.o
8Ball
04-22-2021, 02:48 PM
1 - 12 with help , Jordan's first 3 opponents, better record
Deal with it
LeBron didn't go 1-12 in the first round in the 1st 3 playoffs. :roll:
Why does this 1-9 fact bother you so much to make a thread about it?
Should I say 11.11% instead? :lol
Bankaii
04-22-2021, 02:49 PM
What year was that? 86?
MJ was injured the majority of 86.
“2much knowledge” with no knowledge of the 90s lmao. Be honest you haven’t watched any of MJ outside of the highlights.
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:51 PM
So much spinning , its making me dizzy Looooooooooool
You guys would make great DJ's
Damn, this thread hit hard!!
hateraid
04-22-2021, 02:51 PM
Lol thread backfired
Also I can tell by the mannerism that OP is pinoy. Lebron23, did you pick up on it?
Have at it boys!
8Ball
04-22-2021, 02:52 PM
11.11% :roll:
Who made the 11.11% thread? Definitely not LeBron stans. Jordan stans are shook over 1-9.
mehyaM24
04-22-2021, 02:52 PM
so by op's logic, 88 jordan lost to an inferior team than the 18 celtics - who lebron beat to make the finals.
the 18 celtics went 55-27. 88 detroit, who PRIME jordan lost to, WITH PIPPEN, went 54-28.
op? :confusedshrug:
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:52 PM
So much for lebron's legendary finals opponents
MJ opponents in the 1st round, better record. Damn
1 - 9 > 1 - 12. Yikes
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:57 PM
MJ was injured the majority of 86.
“2much knowledge” with no knowledge of the 90s lmao. Be honest you haven’t watched any of MJ outside of the highlights.
So your answering your own initial question wtf. I don't go by age so i have no clue how old he was in 86, but if thats the year, you just answered your own question. Missed over 60%, 15 minutes per game before the playoffs, thats why the 8th seed. There ya go
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 02:58 PM
op? :confusedshrug:
Prime jordan at 88. Sure homie, sure thing
egokiller
04-22-2021, 03:00 PM
lol this 1-9 stuff is still being talked about....at least talk about something more recent like 4/10
mehyaM24
04-22-2021, 03:01 PM
Prime jordan at 88. Sure homie, sure thing
mvp. dpoy. scoring champ. if that isn't PRIME JORDAN then nothing is.
aj1987
04-22-2021, 03:03 PM
d.a.m.a.g.e c.o.n.t.r.ol l.m.a.o
Those are called FACTS, you retarded midget. :cheers:
lol this 1-9 stuff is still being talked about....at least talk about something more recent like 4/10
Why don't we talk about your near 5 year absence from this board and sticking to alts, just because a grown man won a title playing a game? :roll:
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 03:04 PM
LeBron didn't go 1-12 in the first round in the 1st 3 playoffs. :roll:
Why does this 1-9 fact bother you so much to make a thread about it?
Should I say 11.11% instead? :lol
Use your brain for once. Same quality of opponent, no matter what round. One went 1/9 w/o help as a rookie and the other went 1/12 with help and as a vet, which is worse
Did you get it?
Usa tu cerebro un poco, Misma calidad de oponente, no importa la ronda. Uno se fue 1/9 sin ayuda y de novato, el otro 1/12 con ayuda y veterano que es peor.
In spanish , just in case. Do you need the info in Chinese to get it?
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 03:05 PM
mvp. dpoy. scoring champ. if that isn't PRIME JORDAN then nothing is.
Thank you for reminding a season with so many accolades in the same year, lebron would never ever do
aj1987
04-22-2021, 03:05 PM
Use your brain for once. Same quality of opponent, no matter what round. One went 1/9 w/o help as a rookie and the other went 1/12 with help and as a vet, which is worse
Did you get it?
Usa tu cerebro un poco, Misma calidad de oponente, no importa la ronda. Uno se fue 1/9 sin ayuda y de novato, el otro 1/12 con ayuda y veterano que es peor.
In spanish , just in case. Do you need the info in Chinese to get it?
https://i.postimg.cc/VLBM7xSq/FB-IMG-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CM8b8BS6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
mehyaM24
04-22-2021, 03:07 PM
Thank you for reminding a season with so many accolades in the same year, lebron would never ever do
so you agree that its prime jordan? you're going in circles and running from the actual debate.
Bankaii
04-22-2021, 04:04 PM
So your answering your own initial question wtf. I don't go by age so i have no clue how old he was in 86, but if thats the year, you just answered your own question. Missed over 60%, 15 minutes per game before the playoffs, thats why the 8th seed. There ya go
I’m referring to 87, where Jordan played the entire season.
Again, it’s pretty clear you’re either a foreign or too young and talking completely out of your ass.
KirbyPls
04-22-2021, 04:08 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VLBM7xSq/FB-IMG-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CM8b8BS6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
Ok, now you can STFU.
Ether. :pimp:
hateraid
04-22-2021, 04:33 PM
OP is off his testosterone so he more estrogen dominant at the moment. OK ba pickenroller?
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 04:35 PM
so you agree that its prime jordan? you're going in circles and running from the actual debate.
No, that's what amazing about the goat
*Mvp
*Scoring champ
*Steals leader
*allstar mvp
*Dpoy
*Dunk champ
And its only the 3rd full year in the league. Im sure im gonna die before that ever happens again
hateraid
04-22-2021, 04:35 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VLBM7xSq/FB-IMG-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CM8b8BS6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
What's impressive is Lebron leading in every category over both teams.
But hey, the Jordan stans can put a spin on anything!
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 04:37 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VLBM7xSq/FB-IMG-1587678936689.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CM8b8BS6/g7vmn1o505r01.jpg
Are you 8ball's lover? You sure are quick to come to his rescue
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 04:42 PM
What's impressive is Lebron leading in every category over both teams.
But hey, the Jordan stans can put a spin on anything!
Like Herm Edwards said " You Play To Win The Game"
If you think Mj would trade all his winning for a coulple of extra assist and rebounds, then ur dumb
Its called triangle offense and it worked very very well
11 rings with that formula. I rather that , than having my star player dominating the ball in every possession, which has produced mixed results to say the least
Mike drop
mehyaM24
04-22-2021, 04:42 PM
No, that's what amazing about the goat
*Mvp
*Scoring champ
*Steals leader
*allstar mvp
*Dpoy
*Dunk champ
And its only the 3rd full year in the league. Im sure im gonna die before that ever happens again
but it was jordan's 4th year. and he was 25 - the same age as kobe was in 2003 and lebron was in 2009. aka their primes. not that i think you really watched jordan back then though lol
again, jordan lost to a team with a WORSE record than 18 boston. who lebron beat to make the finals. address that.
egokiller
04-22-2021, 04:46 PM
Those are called FACTS, you retarded midget. :cheers:
Why don't we talk about your near 5 year absence from this board and sticking to alts, just because a grown man won a title playing a game? :roll:
Some guy failing in 6 finals isn’t a reason for anyone to stop posting. I left because no one had any good counter arguments and it became boring watching lebron and his supporters get shit on everyday with no actual good basketball discussion taking place. I see that nothing has changed....
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 04:48 PM
Some guy failing in 6 finals isn’t a reason for anyone to stop posting. I left because no one had any good counter arguments and it became boring watching lebron and his supporters get shit on everyday with no actual good basketball discussion taking place. I see that nothing has changed....
Bro, Why are they comparing me to you? Did you used to own them so many times , to the point they got really mad?
egokiller
04-22-2021, 04:49 PM
Like Herm Edwards said " You Play To Win The Game"
If you think Mj would trade all his winning for a coulple of extra assist and rebounds, then ur dumb
Its called triangle offense and it worked very very well
11 rings with that formula. I rather that , than having my star player dominating the ball in every possession, which has produced mixed results to say the least
Mike drop
Lots of dumb posters on here that can’t understand simple concepts. Shit hasn’t changed. Yawn...i’ll check back in a few years. Later.
https://youtu.be/QJ5YdEaPQfM
GrayGoat
04-22-2021, 04:54 PM
Lots of dumb posters on here that can’t understand simple concepts. Shit hasn’t changed. Yawn...i’ll check back in a few years. Later.
https://youtu.be/QJ5YdEaPQfM
Well well well. Look who’s back
8Ball
04-22-2021, 05:01 PM
Some guy failing in 6 finals isn’t a reason for anyone to stop posting. I left because no one had any good counter arguments and it became boring watching lebron and his supporters get shit on everyday with no actual good basketball discussion taking place. I see that nothing has changed....
How did you feel on Oct 11 2020 when Lakers won the championship.
Please stay and discuss your pain and misery on that night :roll:
You spent a lot of time bumping this thread:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?460906-To-all-of-us-who-were-right
How come you stop posting in it? :roll:
hateraid
04-22-2021, 05:18 PM
Like Herm Edwards said " You Play To Win The Game"
If you think Mj would trade all his winning for a coulple of extra assist and rebounds, then ur dumb
Its called triangle offense and it worked very very well
11 rings with that formula. I rather that , than having my star player dominating the ball in every possession, which has produced mixed results to say the least
Mike drop
This post makes no sense.
egokiller
04-22-2021, 06:34 PM
How did you feel on Oct 11 2020 when Lakers won the championship.
Please stay and discuss your pain and misery on that night :roll:
You spent a lot of time bumping this thread:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?460906-To-all-of-us-who-were-right
How come you stop posting in it? :roll:
There’s like 20+ threads on the first page alone with lebron getting shit on and the same posters whining about how they never saw GOAT MJ. Do you really want me to bump that thread and add to it?
2much_knowledge
04-22-2021, 06:56 PM
This post makes no sense.
How much simple can i put things man. I feel like im dealing with 3rd graders. Read again
hateraid
04-22-2021, 07:40 PM
How much simple can i put things man. I feel like im dealing with 3rd graders. Read again
It doesn't make sense. It's all subjective mumbo jumbo
A bunch of crybabies itt, including op.
Then again, i'd recall the average age of posters itb is around 12 years old lmao.
VictorMosquito
04-22-2021, 07:51 PM
BRAN stans in shambles :oldlol:
aj1987
04-23-2021, 05:08 AM
Some guy failing in 6 finals isn’t a reason for anyone to stop posting. I left because no one had any good counter arguments and it became boring watching lebron and his supporters get shit on everyday with no actual good basketball discussion taking place. I see that nothing has changed....
You literally quit posting on the day that LeBron won his 3rd. Made you look like a complete and utter retard after all those threads you started about him. :roll: :roll:
clipps
04-23-2021, 08:29 AM
Oh hey. Yet another annoying MJ vs LeBitch debate. Grow up, queers.
2much_knowledge
04-23-2021, 05:15 PM
It doesn't make sense. It's all subjective mumbo jumbo
Ill try one more for you
*triangle offense limits assist numbers
*triangle offense very very effective for winning, the sole objective of playing the game
*winning with this proven system, much better than average 2 extra assists and rebounds
Smoke117
04-23-2021, 05:34 PM
There is nothing to debunk. Saying he’s 1-9 without Pippen in the playoffs is simply a piece of factual information.
hold this L
04-23-2021, 05:46 PM
OP doesn't realize that the entire 1-9 argument on ish is made for two reasons
1. Lebron stans flexing/trolling,
2. nobody in the forum likes 2ball and wants to laugh at him over and over again
It's nothing more than that.
2much_knowledge
04-23-2021, 05:58 PM
There is nothing to debunk. Saying he’s 1-9 without Pippen in the playoffs is simply a piece of factual information.
Any rookie in the world with a bad team would have that same record vs that quality of teams. Facts
Smoke117
04-23-2021, 06:02 PM
OP doesn't realize that the entire 1-9 argument on ish is made for two reasons
1. Lebron stans flexing/trolling,
2. nobody in the forum likes 2ball and wants to laugh at him over and over again
It's nothing more than that.
It's basically all 3ball. Nobody would really be bringing it up if not for him. When NBA was stopped through the spring and summer last year that idiot made like 2 threads a day attacking Pippen.
hateraid
04-23-2021, 06:17 PM
Ill try one more for you
*triangle offense limits assist numbers
*triangle offense very very effective for winning, the sole objective of playing the game
*winning with this proven system, much better than average 2 extra assists and rebounds
No dumb dumb, what does this have to do with debunking an actual fact.
Geez you're clueless
2much_knowledge
04-23-2021, 06:20 PM
What's impressive is Lebron leading in every category over both teams.
But hey, the Jordan stans can put a spin on anything!
This, it has alot to do with this.
3ball
04-23-2021, 06:42 PM
.
05' Zydrunas..... 17/9 and 2.1 blocks.. 19.5 PER.. 0.149 WS/48.. #12 team defense
90' Pippen......... 16/7 and 1.2 blocks.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. #19 team defense
It's basically all 3ball. Nobody would really be bringing it up if not for him. When NBA was stopped through the spring and summer last year that idiot made like 2 threads a day attacking Pippen.
In 1990, the Bulls were considered the biggest 1-man team in history - dynasties needed special "Jordan Rules" to beat their goat scoring champ.
And sure enough, when you look at the stats, the 90' Bulls had the #19 defense and worse offensive teammates than the 05' Cavs across the board (sidekicks shown above).
So now you're telling me that the 90' lottery cast became a dynasty cast by 1991?... :whatever:
Of course not - Pippen wasn't even an all-star in 91' - the Bulls were simply a 1-man team the entire time, which is why Jordan's volume/scoring INCREASED in the championship years
Carry on
3ball
05-26-2021, 10:20 PM
.
Thread Cliffs
2004 Cavs.... NO ALL-STARS
2005 Cavs.... LEBRON/ZYDRUNAS BECOME ALL-STARS AND ACQUIRE FUTURE ALL-DEFENDER VAREJAO
2006 Cavs.... LEBRON/ZYDRUNUS ACQUIRE ANOTHER ALL-DEFENDER HUGHES AND THE FUTURE COY (TOP DEFENSES)
^^^ Lebron got 3 years to develop his team before entering the playoffs in Year 3 as a high seed, which can't be compared to rookie Jordan being forced into the playoffs as an 8 seed.
When Jordan had the same 3 years to develop his team that Lebron got, he won 50 games and made the 2nd Round in his 3rd healthy season (88'), just like 3rd year Lebron (06').
Ultimately, Lebron always enjoyed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes in a conference that 1-star teams were winning, while Jordan made the playoffs or had deep runs with low seeds and undecorated role players in a conference that required a super-team to win it.
8Ball
05-26-2021, 10:39 PM
Jordan simply cannot win playoff games without Pippen.
Shooter
05-26-2021, 10:41 PM
Jordan simply cannot win playoff games without Pippen.
Michael Jordan played without Scottie Pippen for five years and was able to amass:
- ZERO rings
- ZERO Finals
- ZERO Conference Finals wins
- ZERO Conference Finals
- ZERO Semi Finals wins
- ZERO Semi Finals
- ZERO playoff series wins
- THREE 1st round exits
- ONE playoff game win in 10 games
- TWO times missed the playoffs
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