The sooner 2016 has been accepted the sooner some of ya’ll can get some sleep

[GrayGoat]

It’s been 5 years. We can’t help you if you don’t admit you have a problem

[2much_knowledge]

Whats there to accept? That lebron got a key player suspended and got bailed out by kyrie in route to his ring # half or Jordans? Nobody losing sleep over that bro

[Lebron23]

Whats there to accept? That lebron got a key player suspended and got bailed out by kyrie in route to his ring # half or Jordans? Nobody losing sleep over that bro

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2016-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html

Maybe you need to check his finals stats. Led his team in points, rebounds, assists blocks and steals.

[egokiller]

This guy accurately summarized 2016 and every year of Lebron’s career for that matter. The sooner this accurate recollection is accepted, the sooner you can move on in life and stop making these threads.


Lebron:
2004 - choked the gold medal away
2006 - choked the gold medal away
2007 - choked and swept the title away
2008 - choked the gold medal away
2008 - bailed out by kobe in the gold medal game
2010 - Quit
2011 - choked the finals away
2012 - prime colluded ring
2012 - lockout ring
2013 - prime colluded ring
2013 - bail out by ray allen
2014 - choked the finals away to an air conditioner
2014 - Quit
2015 - choked the finals away shooting 25% beyond 5 feet vs a role player
2016 - choked game 7 away in the last 5 minutes
2016 - bail out by kyrie irving
2016 - prime colluded ring
2017 - choked game 3 away and the series
2018 - choked game 1 of OT and game 3 away
2018 - Quit
2019 - No Playoffs with the winniest franchise all time.
2020 - Anthony Davis leads teams in Win Shares and Scoring.

[8Ball]

This forum is better with you around straight ballin :applause:

[bullettooth]

Lebron:
2004 - choked the gold medal away
2006 - choked the gold medal away
2007 - choked and swept the title away
2008 - choked the gold medal away
2008 - bailed out by kobe in the gold medal game
2010 - Quit
2011 - choked the finals away
2012 - prime colluded ring
2012 - lockout ring
2013 - prime colluded ring
2013 - bail out by ray allen
2014 - choked the finals away to an air conditioner
2014 - Quit
2015 - choked the finals away shooting 25% beyond 5 feet vs a role player
2016 - choked game 7 away in the last 5 minutes
2016 - bail out by kyrie irving
2016 - prime colluded ring
2017 - choked game 3 away and the series
2018 - choked game 1 of OT and game 3 away
2018 - Quit
2019 - No Playoffs with the winniest franchise all time.
2020 - Anthony Davis leads teams in Win Shares and Scoring.

https://media.giphy.com/media/r2puuhrnjG7vy/source.gif

[highwhey]

This guy accurately summarized 2016 and every year of Lebron’s career for that matter. The sooner this accurate recollection is accepted, the sooner you can move on in life and stop making these threads.

^^this guy is for sure getting some sleep....with other men

[VictorMosquito]

Real ones know 2016 doesn't count because silver made the call for bran. If you disagree your not a real one sorry not sorry

[GrayGoat]

Real ones know 2016 doesn't count because silver made the call for bran. If you disagree your not a real one sorry not sorry

You should log in to other accounts to echo this message

[warriorfan]

5 years later op still trying to convince himself it was a legit ring

[VictorMosquito]

You should log in to other accounts to echo this message

Your hero was BRONZE before SILVER upgraded his legacy for him :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I accept the fact that nobody eliminated Draymond Green in a 7 game series from 2015-present besides Kawhi Leonard.

[GrayGoat]

I accept the fact that nobody eliminated Draymond Green in a 7 game series from 2015-present besides Kawhi Leonard.

Green played

[Axe]

I accept the fact that nobody eliminated Draymond Green in a 7 game series from 2015-present besides Kawhi Leonard.
Too bad it has nothing to do with your hero tho, dipshit.

[3ball]

:facepalm:

[3ball]

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http://dsz7vodgjx60a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Ck4em5QWgAEmc-h.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ac/fc/06/acfc061e3b37601d896e661a49b16606.jpg





Led his team in points, rebounds, assists blocks and steals.





Lebron had an equal-scoring teammate in the 2016 Playoffs and Finals, which is the definition of shared load and exact opposite of carry-job.

Teammate scoring matters because equal-scoring teammates attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced "1-man team" defensive attention for his entire career, (thus giving maximum integrity to his stats and rings).. Kenny Smith talks about MJ being the only 1-man show here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s).

Furthermore, teammates nearly matched Lebron in other categories as well and therefore shared the overall load.. Otoh, Jordan actually carried the scoring load, which is what "carry-job" refers to.. He averaged 10-30 more than Pippen in every series, while usually leading in assists, steals and other categories that actually matter like efficiency per possession, defensive assignment ppg and efficiency, clutch points, lowest turnovers, or percentage of team points.






Led his team in points, rebounds, assists blocks and steals.





The 90's Bulls would've lost every Finals if Jordan got destroyed by the opposing 2nd option like Curry did against Kyrie..

It's impossible to lose if your 2nd option is destroying the opposing 1st option and league MVP, so Lebron should get knocked for needing 7 games - he only needed 7 because he wet the bed through 4 (24 ppg and 6 TO's).

If Rik Smits (2nd option) outplayed Shaq in the 2000 Finals, would Miller get credit for a goat accomplishment by winning that series?.. Or if KJ outplayed Jordan in 93', does Barkley get credit for a goat accomplishemnt?.. You can do this with any Finals.. So why should Lebron get credit for a shared load?

Ultimately, Lebron hand-picked the pre-season favorite from 2011-2016, but proceeded to lose or be the Finals underdog every year except the Ray Allen miracle in 2013... Lebron is a complete fraud with a completely manufactured resume that began with the "decision" to form a super-team in a conference that 1-star teams routinely won.






Led his team in points, rebounds, assists blocks and steals.





if Lebron gets 29 points and Kyrie gets 27, that's the definition of shared load and the opposite of carry-job.

Accordingly, Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, and therefore has zero carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades of playing..

The closest he came was the 2015 ECF, when he beat the #4 SRS Hawks with 18 on 58% from JR Smith - but that's passable scoring and all-time efficiency, so it's not a carry-job, which requires winning with weak scoring/efficiency from a sidekick.






Led his team in points, rebounds, assists blocks and steals.





Lebron can't have carry-jobs against the top teams because the stats show he lacks the contested jumpshooting required of tougher carry-jobs - he infact avoids contested jumpshooting and defers them to teammates because 89% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/2544/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) of Lebron's jumpers were uncontested in 2020, compared to 69% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/202695/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Kawhi, 61% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201935/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Harden, and 50% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201142/shots-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for KDGoat (2019 stats).

So Lebron's poor contested-jumpshooting ability prevents him from carry-jobs against the top teams, and he can't beat teams with high scoring anyway because Lebron's high scoring equals over-dribbling, which doesn't win against ball movement of the best teams.. (Lebron has no series wins outside the 1st round when he averages 35+)..

It was revealing when Stan Van Gundy talked about the 09' ECF and said "we wanted him to dribble and get stats".. Ultimately, his over-dribbling hurt him, along with his weak clutch jumpshooting - he shot 30% on jumpers in the 4th quarter of that series, including 3 lost leads in the fourth quarter and getting demolished by Dwight in the critical Game 4 OT that swung the series

[SouBeachTalents]

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http://dsz7vodgjx60a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Ck4em5QWgAEmc-h.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ac/fc/06/acfc061e3b37601d896e661a49b16606.jpg





Lebron had an equal-scoring teammate in the 2016 Playoffs and Finals, which is the definition of shared load and exact opposite of carry-job.

Teammate scoring matters because equal-scoring teammates attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced "1-man team" defensive attention for his entire career, (thus giving maximum integrity to his stats and rings).. Kenny Smith talks about MJ being the only 1-man show here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s).

Furthermore, teammates nearly matched Lebron in other categories as well and therefore shared the overall load.. Otoh, Jordan actually carried the scoring load, which is what "carry-job" refers to.. He averaged 10-30 more than Pippen in every series, while usually leading in assists, steals and other categories that actually matter like efficiency per possession, defensive assignment ppg and efficiency, clutch points, lowest turnovers, or percentage of team points.






The 90's Bulls would've lost every Finals if Jordan got destroyed by the opposing 2nd option like Curry did against Kyrie..

It's impossible to lose if your 2nd option is destroying the opposing 1st option and league MVP, so Lebron should get knocked for needing 7 games - he only needed 7 because he wet the bed through 4 (24 ppg and 6 TO's).

If Rik Smits (2nd option) outplayed Shaq in the 2000 Finals, would Miller get credit for a goat accomplishment by winning that series?.. Or if KJ outplayed Jordan in 93', does Barkley get credit for a goat accomplishemnt?.. You can do this with any Finals.. So why should Lebron get credit for a shared load?

Ultimately, Lebron hand-picked the pre-season favorite from 2011-2016, but proceeded to lose or be the Finals underdog every year except the Ray Allen miracle in 2013... Lebron is a complete fraud with a completely manufactured resume that began with the "decision" to form a super-team in a conference that 1-star teams routinely won.






if Lebron gets 29 points and Kyrie gets 27, that's the definition of shared load and the opposite of carry-job.

Accordingly, Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, and therefore has zero carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades of playing..

The closest he came was the 2015 ECF, when he beat the #4 SRS Hawks with 18 on 58% from JR Smith - but that's passable scoring and all-time efficiency, so it's not a carry-job, which requires winning with weak scoring/efficiency from a sidekick.






Lebron can't have carry-jobs against the top teams because the stats show he lacks the contested jumpshooting required of tougher carry-jobs - he infact avoids contested jumpshooting and defers them to teammates because 89% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/2544/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) of Lebron's jumpers were uncontested in 2020, compared to 69% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/202695/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Kawhi, 61% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201935/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Harden, and 50% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201142/shots-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for KDGoat (2019 stats).

So Lebron's poor contested-jumpshooting ability prevents him from carry-jobs against the top teams, and he can't beat teams with high scoring anyway because Lebron's high scoring equals over-dribbling, which doesn't win against ball movement of the best teams.. (Lebron has no series wins outside the 1st round when he averages 35+)..

It was revealing when Stan Van Gundy talked about the 09' ECF and said "we wanted him to dribble and get stats".. Ultimately, his over-dribbling hurt him, along with his weak clutch jumpshooting - he shot 30% on jumpers in the 4th quarter of that series, including 3 lost leads in the fourth quarter and getting demolished by Dwight in the critical Game 4 OT that swung the series
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClhqSGgWIAErVpC.jpg

Against a 73 win team too!

[3ball]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClhqSGgWIAErVpC.jpg

Against a 73 win team to boot!


Too bad Pippen couldn't average 27 and hold Shaq to 22 so the Bulls could've won the 95 ECSF

It would've been ridiculously horrible for Jordan to somehow need 7 games and a lucky suspension under those circumstances

So lebron is a bum compared to MJ for needing 7 and for needing equal-scoring partners.. in the history of the Finals, only kyrie and wilt dropped 40+ at 70%

[8Ball]

Pippen led a team to 55 wins with a bunch of bums.

Kyrie never did.

Neither did Jordan without Pippen.

[SouBeachTalents]

Too bad Pippen couldn't average 27 and hold Shaq to 22 so the Bulls could've won the 95 ECSF

It would've been ridiculously horrible for Jordan to somehow need 7 games and a lucky suspension under those circumstances

So lebron is a bum compared to MJ for needing 7 and for needing equal-scoring partners
Too bad Jordan couldn't hang onto the ball and avoid a game losing turnover in Game 1

https://www.nba.com/images/vod01/teams/magic/2020/05/07/3209455/1588880529928-2175858_05071995_Nick_Anderson_mp4_Maria_Aldana_20 200428_195907-3209455-3.1920x1080.jpg

Capping off a dreadful 19 point 8/22 & 8 turnover performance

[3ball]

Pippen led a team to 55 wins with a bunch of bums.





Lots of guys do that, especially in their prime, and they don't need a 3-peat system and 7 years of pressure-leas grooming under the goat to do it either

Peak Pippen is a blake griffin caliber player (#3 for MVP)

Or Marc Gasol or Kyle Lowry (55 wins and 2nd round loss)

[And1AllDay]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2016-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html

Maybe you need to check his finals stats. Led his team in points, rebounds, assists blocks and steals.

biiiiiiiiiiiiingo

[And1AllDay]

dey know

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