If you're not scared of the virus, why be scared of the vaccine?

[Walk on Water]

You do realize that there are new variants of the coronavirus. And unlike what flat earthers think, the virus is real. There are new variants that attack young people. It doesn't matter if you take vitamins or are generally healthy. The virus has killed healthy people and even Jason Tatum says it's caused a lot of side effects. You might not die, but do you really want to live with these potential side effects?

Even if there is a chance the vaccine could hurt you, you're statistically far less likely to get affected by it than the virus. Plus, if you're healthy enough to beat a virus, you should be healthy enough to beat a vaccine shot. If you don't think you are strong enough for the vaccine shot, then you definitely can't handle the virus. So stop being a wuss, and get your shot.

Do you really wanna be the only one at a party that has to wear a mask? Everyone will know you didn't get your shot and that's how you're gonna have to live the rest of your life. The virus ain't going away anytime soon.

[keep-itreal]

Coronavirus does not exist

[Walk on Water]

Coronavirus does not exist


I guess the Earth is also flat and outer space doesn't exist.

[Chick Stern]

Coronavirus does not exist
Her sons agree!

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1784458/men-india-motorbike-body.png?w=1600&h=900&q=88&f=2f4791a606ff4345ea17ce554f2b0a1f

[Axe]

Emmanuel thinks it's just a flu

[PistolPete]

We say jump and OP says how high.

[TheCorporation]

We say jump and OP says how high.

:lol

[Vragrant]

Pfizer and the rest of the private companies that administer the vaccine have zero liability for any side effects of the vaccine. This is due to the accelerated timeline of the vaccine so the government shields them from it. They cannot be sued. Not to mention the CEO of Pfizer sold a vast majority of is stock once Pfizer got approved. Also due to the accelerated timeline we don't know the any long term side effects since it usually takes 2-4 years of clinical research, and that is just the beginning of creating a vaccine.

[Rooster]

Pfizer and the rest of the private companies that administer the vaccine have zero liability for any side effects of the vaccine. This is due to the accelerated timeline of the vaccine so the government shields them from it. They cannot be sued. Not to mention the CEO of Pfizer sold a vast majority of is stock once Pfizer got approved. Also due to the accelerated timeline we don't know the any long term side effects since it usually takes 2-4 years of clinical research, and that is just the beginning of creating a vaccine.

You do realize that the timeline for full FDA approval is 10 years. Do you think we have 10 years to deal with Covid? And put the mask and lockdown every outbreak. The long term effects of Covid is already well established based on empirical data. Permanent lung scarring structural heart damage, blood clot complications etc.

CEO selling stocks is common. Some have stock compensation they can exercise, some just want to rebalance their portfolio and some just want to profit.

At the end of the day, benefits of vaccine far outweighs the risk .

[Draz]

Employers are going to make it mandatory especially prior to hire. Shit is getting out of hand. I'd rather wear a mask forever than get the vaccine. My wife will have to get it for her job since she's going to practically retire there if she can.

[Walk on Water]

Employers are going to make it mandatory especially prior to hire. Shit is getting out of hand. I'd rather wear a mask forever than get the vaccine. My wife will have to get it for her job since she's going to practically retire there if she can.


OH MY GOSH. You would rather wear a mask forever than get the vaccine? Are you serious? I would rather get the vaccine and not have to wear the mask forever. Wow.

[Manny98]

For starters it's not a vaccine in the first place because vaccines are supposed to give you immunity whilst people have reported to still get Covid after getting the shot

[BigKobeFan]

Why would i trust both this virus or the vaccine. The virus came out immediately after trump did not get impeached.

On top of that, we discovered that the survival rate is 99.997. The death counts are high because some idiot in new york put a bunch of sick people with people already dying

Then on top of that. All the vaccines immediately got released within 1 week after the election. **** outta here

[hateraid]

Maybe people are scared due to uncertainty? Or the fact that people not choosing to get pricked are being shunned by the public?

The vaccine seems to be giving people a more sense on entitlement than actual piece of mind

[JohnnySic]

The virus is a natural occurrence. The vaccine is a shit cocktail, cooked up by some numbnuts.

That said, I'm not scared of the vaccine, I'm just not gonna bother with something so totally unnecessary. What part of 99.99% survival rate do people struggle to understand? Just really bad at math?

[Walk on Water]

The virus is a natural occurrence. The vaccine is a shit cocktail, cooked up by some numbnuts.

That said, I'm not scared of the vaccine, I'm just not gonna bother with something so totally unnecessary. What part of 99.99% survival rate do people struggle to understand? Just really bad at math?


There is no 99.99 percent survival rate. That's a lie and a total exaggeration. We already have over 600,000 that have died from it in the US alone. And not everyone has even gotten the virus. It has killed way more than the flu ever killed.

Furthermore, even if you do survive, you can experience long-term or permanent side effects. You're not too strong for Covid, not if you get the strong strain.

[JohnnySic]

There is no 99.99 percent survival rate. That's a lie and a total exaggeration. We already have over 600,000 that have died from it in the US alone. And not everyone has even gotten the virus. It has killed way more than the flu ever killed.

Furthermore, even if you do survive, you can experience long-term or permanent side effects. You're not too strong for Covid, not if you get the strong strain.

BS. Those numbers are inflated. Anyone who died who happened to have covid was counted as a covid death.

[keep-itreal]

There is no 99.99 percent survival rate. That's a lie and a total exaggeration. We already have over 600,000 that have died from it in the US alone. And not everyone has even gotten the virus. It has killed way more than the flu ever killed.

Furthermore, even if you do survive, you can experience long-term or permanent side effects. You're not too strong for Covid, not if you get the strong strain.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiyIA2gU4AACs7w?format=jpg&name=large

[BigKobeFan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiyIA2gU4AACs7w?format=jpg&name=large

Numbers are probably even greater now.

[Walk on Water]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiyIA2gU4AACs7w?format=jpg&name=large



So you want me to ignore the elderly?

[Axe]

That's why nobody takes anyone from the maga cult seriously anymore. :facepalm

[Chick Stern]

For starters it's not a vaccine in the first place because vaccines are supposed to give you immunity whilst people have reported to still get Covid after getting the shot
You clearly don’t understand how vaccines work

[Manny98]

You clearly don’t understand how vaccines work
Official definition of a vaccine


a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

It doesn't provide immunity so it doesn't count as a vaccine

[Chick Stern]

Official definition of a vaccine

It doesn't provide immunity so it doesn't count as a vaccine

Influenza vaccines, also known as flu shots or flu jabs, are vaccines that protect against infection by influenza viruses. New versions of the vaccines are developed twice a year, as the influenza virus rapidly changes.

Influenza (flu) vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary. The protection provided by a flu vaccine varies from season to season and depends in part on the age and health status of the person getting the vaccine and the similarity or “match” between the viruses in the vaccine and those in circulation. During years when the flu vaccine match is good, the benefits of flu vaccination will vary, depending on factors like the characteristics of the person being vaccinated (for example, their health and age), what influenza viruses are circulating that season and, potentially, which type of flu vaccine was used.

Vaccine efficacy and effectiveness are measures that compare the rates of disease between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Efficacy is measured in controlled clinical trials, whereas effectiveness is measured once the vaccine is approved for use in the general population. From these we can identify the proportion of vaccinated people we would expect to be protected by the vaccine.

Herd immunity (also called community immunity) is an important mechanism by which the larger community is protected. For some diseases, if enough people are immune then transmission of the disease is reduced or eliminated. This is particularly so for diseases such as rubella and pneumococcal disease. High vaccine coverage must be maintained in order to prevent the disease re-entering the population.

No vaccine is 100% effective, a small percentage of people are not protected after vaccination and for others the protection may wane over time. Also, some people are unable to be vaccinated due to certain conditions such as immune suppression. Maintaining immunity in those around these people protects them from disease.

[SATAN]

https://media.giphy.com/media/OW4COH014tnNe/giphy.gif

[ShawkFactory]

The virus is a natural occurrence. The vaccine is a shit cocktail, cooked up by some numbnuts.

That said, I'm not scared of the vaccine, I'm just not gonna bother with something so totally unnecessary. What part of 99.99% survival rate do people struggle to understand? Just really bad at math?
What the fvck are you talking about?

Maybe some people just don’t want to be sick for 2 weeks? Or don’t want to lose their sense of smell for months?

It’s not all about death dude.

It’s the same reason that people get the flu shot. They don’t think they’re about to die..

[Chick Stern]

What the fvck are you talking about?

Maybe some people just don’t want to be sick for 2 weeks? Or don’t want to lose their sense of smell for months?

It’s not all about death dude.

It’s the same reason that people get the flu shot. They don’t think they’re about to die..
and then there’s the long term VID.
Long period comas, limbs being amputated, memory deterioration, constant fatigue.

[ShawkFactory]

and then there’s the long term VID.
Long period comas, limbs being amputated, memory deterioration, constant fatigue.

:applause:

[Manny98]

Influenza vaccines, also known as flu shots or flu jabs, are vaccines that protect against infection by influenza viruses. New versions of the vaccines are developed twice a year, as the influenza virus rapidly changes.

Influenza (flu) vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary. The protection provided by a flu vaccine varies from season to season and depends in part on the age and health status of the person getting the vaccine and the similarity or “match” between the viruses in the vaccine and those in circulation. During years when the flu vaccine match is good, the benefits of flu vaccination will vary, depending on factors like the characteristics of the person being vaccinated (for example, their health and age), what influenza viruses are circulating that season and, potentially, which type of flu vaccine was used.

Vaccine efficacy and effectiveness are measures that compare the rates of disease between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Efficacy is measured in controlled clinical trials, whereas effectiveness is measured once the vaccine is approved for use in the general population. From these we can identify the proportion of vaccinated people we would expect to be protected by the vaccine.

Herd immunity (also called community immunity) is an important mechanism by which the larger community is protected. For some diseases, if enough people are immune then transmission of the disease is reduced or eliminated. This is particularly so for diseases such as rubella and pneumococcal disease. High vaccine coverage must be maintained in order to prevent the disease re-entering the population.

No vaccine is 100% effective, a small percentage of people are not protected after vaccination and for others the protection may wane over time. Also, some people are unable to be vaccinated due to certain conditions such as immune suppression. Maintaining immunity in those around these people protects them from disease.
It's zero percent effective because they flat out said that the vaccine doesn't provide immunity whatsoever
It just "reduces the symptoms"

Not even going to mention the disturbingly high amount of people that have reported serious side effects after taking the vaccine :facepalm

[Chick Stern]

It's zero percent effective because they flat out said that the vaccine doesn't provide immunity whatsoever
It just "reduces the symptoms"

Not even going to mention the disturbingly high amount of people that have reported serious side effects after taking the vaccine :facepalm
A) you need to go back to OAN
B) define “high amount” and “serious side effects”

[egokiller]

What the fvck are you talking about?

Maybe some people just don’t want to be sick for 2 weeks? Or don’t want to lose their sense of smell for months?

It’s not all about death dude.

It’s the same reason that people get the flu shot. They don’t think they’re about to die..

I’ve had both Pfizer shots and got zero side effects. I’m not worried about it. Never got covid. Lungs are nice and healthy. Now we just wait for the next mutation and hope for the best.

[Manny98]

A) you need to go back to OAN
B) define “high amount” and “serious side effects”
The official definition says "provide immunity" not provide some immunity so you're wrong
Unless they have changed the definition of what a vaccine is over the past year

[Manny98]

and then there’s the long term VID.
Long period comas, limbs being amputated, memory deterioration, constant fatigue.
:roll::roll::roll:

[Chick Stern]

The official definition says "provide immunity" not provide some immunity so you're wrong
Unless they have changed the definition of what a vaccine is over the past year
The dictionary is the arbiter of medical standards?

[Manny98]

The dictionary is the arbiter of medical standards?

So what you are saying is that what I have been told by my Teachers and biology books throughout my entire life regarding vaccines is false and should be dismissed?

[Stanley Kobrick]

I’ve had both Pfizer shots and got zero side effects. I’m not worried about it. Never got covid. Lungs are nice and healthy. Now we just wait for the next mutation and hope for the best.
same :cheers:

[Stanley Kobrick]

What the fvck are you talking about?

Maybe some people just don’t want to be sick for 2 weeks? Or don’t want to lose their sense of smell for months?

It’s not all about death dude.

It’s the same reason that people get the flu shot. They don’t think they’re about to die..
:cheers:

[Stanley Kobrick]

and then there’s the long term VID.
Long period comas, limbs being amputated, memory deterioration, constant fatigue.
:cheers:

[Axe]

same :cheers:

:cheers:

:cheers:
:cheers:

[Bimbo Coles]

Faustian bargain

[Walk on Water]

You can't avoid both a Covid-19 infection and Covid-19 vaccines. Covid 19 is everywhere and is likely going to be around for a long time. When you are weighing the risk of the vaccine, you must also weigh the risk of getting a Covid 19 infection. We live in a world where Covid-19 is everywhere. The vaccine gives you the best chance to avoid infection.

[ZenMaster]

Got some news out of the northern euro countries today.

1) In Denmark they've removed both Astra Zeneca and Johnson & Johnson from their vaccine programs. In a cost benefit type analysis they've deemed potential side effects at too high of a risk compared to the risk of getting sick from covid itself.
That is taking into account the age group of the people still missing 1st or second vaccine shots, as well as how many people they currently have in the hospitals.
Danish CDC guy ultimately made this decision and it should be noted that other countries are analyzing the situation this way. It's clear cut evidence that there is a line of risk between taking some of these vaccines vs just getting infected with covid and taking the chance that you're one of the 99.4% who don't feel a thing or only something mild.
Most of the people missing are in the age group of 16-39 or similar, the official advice is not to take an Astra Zeneca or J&J vaccine, but they're making some of the ones they already have available if people want to do it voluntarily, they are giving away the rest to other countries.
Maybe something to keep in mind if you're in this age bracket and live in a place where there isn't much covid locally.

2) In Sweden a book just came out where the author concludes that Sweden handled covid correctly to begin with. He compares the pandemic to the influenza season of 1993 in Sweden, where about just as many people ended up dying as what they've been seeing in this pandemic.
Puts a lot of emphasis on the fact that kids there have been able to go to school and not missed many days, and that it's something you don't see charts for in other countries.
Says that kids being able to grow up properly, including going to school, is more important than the small risk of losing his own life at age 60 something.

[keep-itreal]

The vaccine gives you the best chance to avoid infection.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/vaccinated-arizona-state-lawmaker-tests-positive-for-covid-19


A fully vaccinated Arizona state lawmaker has confirmed they have tested positive for COVID-19.

[hiphopanonymous]

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/vaccinated-arizona-state-lawmaker-tests-positive-for-covid-19

You don't understand the concept of chances do you :lol

[SATAN]

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/vaccinated-arizona-state-lawmaker-tests-positive-for-covid-19

Doesn't disprove what WoW said