Brooklyn will to have to face both Milwaukee AND Philly in the playoffs with no HC

[Im Still Ballin]

Damn!

Looks like they'll drop to the 3rd seed. This means they'll play 6th, then the winner of 2nd and 7th -- probably Milwaukee. Philly will be on the other side of the bracket.

Both series without home court too.

That's a tough road...

[999Guy]

Second round knock out

Bucks in 5 or 6

[HBK_Kliq_2]

If the nets fall to the 3rd seed and celtics stay in the 6th seed

Tatum - 1st round
Giannis - 2nd round
Embiid - 3rd round
Kawhi - 4th round

There's no way in hell they are getting through all of that. Durant is already starting to remind me of Lebron in 2011.

[Mask the Embiid]

https://i.postimg.cc/XqxLYKRd/JLq-jv.gif

"other side of the bracket"

[Code Breaker]

HC doesn’t mean shit though lol.

[Im Still Ballin]

https://i.postimg.cc/XqxLYKRd/JLq-jv.gif

"other side of the bracket"

Philly sliding through the playoffs like...

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CalculatingIllustriousGemsbuck-max-1mb.gif

[And1AllDay]

bUt iTs tHe eAsT dOe

[ArbitraryWater]

they can win all those series' with Harden, but im not sure if they all take 6 games one of the Big 3 won't break

[r0drig0lac]

HC doesn’t mean shit though lol.

this

[DABIGSALSISHA]

If the nets fall to the 3rd seed and celtics stay in the 6th seed

Tatum - 1st round
Giannis - 2nd round
Embiid - 3rd round
Kawhi - 4th round

There's no way in hell they are getting through all of that. Durant is already starting to remind me of Lebron in 2011.

Durant's body won't hold to two or three straight 6-7 game series. He and A.D. probably have the same father and are build out of Clay and Glass.

[Jasper]

If the nets fall to the 3rd seed and celtics stay in the 6th seed

Tatum - 1st round
Giannis - 2nd round
Embiid - 3rd round
cp3 - 4th round

There's no way in hell they are getting through all of that. Durant is already starting to remind me of Lebron in 2011.

fixed

[tpols]

They do have a tough road, but its all going to come down to health. If the big 3 are all healthy the whole way, they're going to make the Finals and have a decent shot at beating the clippers. If KD gets hurt id still have Harden & Kyrie taking out Philly. Bucks would be a toss up.

[ImKobe]

Ok, so this is a valid ring if they win it all, right? I don't wanna hear any crying after the POs if they do roll everybody.

[dankok8]

I made a thread on this recently. Celtics - Bucks - Sixers is a brutal road for the Nets. HCA doesn't matter much cuz no fans but the seeding makes it super tough. I would take the field over the Nets to make the finals in the East even if Harden is healthy.

[ArbitraryWater]

Ok, so this is a valid ring if they win it all, right? I don't wanna hear any crying after the POs if they do roll everybody.

valid ring, in what respect?

if theyre healthy they're significant favorites in every series

valid, in what way?

not exactly hard earned

[ImKobe]

valid ring, in what respect?

if theyre healthy they're significant favorites in every series

valid, in what way?

not exactly hard earned

Before the Playoffs

"That's a tough road..."

"There's no way they're beating all these teams in a row with no HCA.."

After the Playoffs

"Not fair! KD had Harden AND Kyrie! Doesn't count!"

They've played what, 7 games together all season? Harden's still rehabbing from his injury? Durant coming off an achilles injury after being sidelined for 1.5 years? Irving has had what, 2 relatively healthy seasons since leaving Cleveland in 2017 and is batshit crazy?

[LoneyROY7]

For many, this would be an unthinkably arduous and grueling road ahead...

But for Atlas™, it's just another day with the world on his shoulders.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bef8ff946a4461216df9b3660feb6d9d

[ArbitraryWater]

Before the Playoffs

"That's a tough road..."

"There's no way they're beating all these teams in a row with no HCA.."

After the Playoffs

"Not fair! KD had Harden AND Kyrie! Doesn't count!"

They've played what, 7 games together all season? Harden's still rehabbing from his injury? Durant coming off an achilles injury after being sidelined for 1.5 years? Irving has had what, 2 relatively healthy seasons since leaving Cleveland in 2017 and is batshit crazy?


You're not talking to me with that.

The Nets are still the odds-on favorites.

Dont get it twisted.

KD coming off achilles injury lmao, what a point to make. He's completely fine.

You're lowering expectations so you can heap praise on KD/Harden/Kyrie after and discredit LeBron.

We know this

[tpols]

valid ring, in what respect?

if theyre healthy they're significant favorites in every series

valid, in what way?

not exactly hard earned

Its much harder earned than going through demar derozan raptors, al horford / millsap hawks, or rookie tatum celtics I can tell you that.

If the Nets have a 60% chance of winning each series that means they have a .6^4 = 12% chance of winning the title. Now imagine if they had a free trip to the Finals... 60% chance at the title.

Now do you see how hard it is to complete a gauntlet?

[ImKobe]

You're not talking to me with that.

The Nets are still the odds-on favorites.

Dont get it twisted.

KD coming off achilles injury lmao, what a point to make. He's completely fine.

You're lowering expectations so you can heap praise on KD/Harden/Kyrie after and discredit LeBron.

We know this

Durant's missed half the season due to injury. Who's the last player to win a title + FMVP after missing half a season? How about coming back from an ACL/Achilles tear and winning it all as the best player?

[ShawkFactory]

Its much harder earned than going through demar derozan raptors, al horford / millsap hawks, or rookie tatum celtics I can tell you that.

If the Nets have a 60% chance of winning each series that means they have a .6^4 = 12% chance of winning the title. Now imagine if they had a free trip to the Finals... 60% chance at the title.

Now do you see how hard it is to complete a gauntlet?
But we all know the actual number is way higher than that.

The only one that will be close to 60% will be in the finals.

[AirBonner]

LeBron cake walked through the east for a decade. Give Durant the same competition and now it’s a huge endeavor lol

[tpols]

But we all know the actual number is way higher than that.

The only one that will be close to 60% will be in the finals.

Its definitely not much higher than that. They're 65/35 over the Celtics, 55/45 over the Bucks and Sixers, and 50/50 with the Clippers. Which means they have a ~10% chance at the title. Only a sucker would take them at their +200 odds right now given their injury potential and lack of defensive identity. That's why vegas is rich.

[tpols]

LeBron cake walked through the east for a decade. Give Durant the same competition and now it’s a huge endeavor lol

LeBron faced rookie Tatum Celtics in the ECFs. The Nets will see a prime Tatum Celtics in the first round. Get that through your head. Its a different gauntlet right now.

[hold this L]

Before the Playoffs

"That's a tough road..."

"There's no way they're beating all these teams in a row with no HCA.."

After the Playoffs

"Not fair! KD had Harden AND Kyrie! Doesn't count!"

They've played what, 7 games together all season? Harden's still rehabbing from his injury? Durant coming off an achilles injury after being sidelined for 1.5 years? Irving has had what, 2 relatively healthy seasons since leaving Cleveland in 2017 and is batshit crazy?

They have by far the most stacked team in the league, what are you on about? :lol

[kentatm]

They better drop to 3rd on purpose. If they get Washington and Bestbrook in the first round they're gonna get wrecked.

[ShawkFactory]

Its definitely not much higher than that. They're 65/35 over the Celtics, 55/45 over the Bucks and Sixers, and 50/50 with the Clippers. Which means they have a ~10% chance at the title. Only a sucker would take them at their +200 odds right now given their injury potential and lack of defensive identity. That's why vegas is rich.

Dude they're fvcking resting for the playoffs. You know this. Durant and Harden are fine.

They also have the highest record in the east by FAR against teams that are over .500. Something like 20-10. Both the Bucks and 6ers are around .500 themselves against such teams. And of course that's without the Big 3 even really playing together. These things matter.

If the Nets are only 65/35 over the Celtics, that is literally the easiest money anyone could ever make. That series is more likely to be a sweep than to go even 6 games.

The 6ers have no shot either. Embiid will get his but they don't have enough weapons overall. That one is more like 70/30 in favor of the Nets

The Bucks present an interesting challenge, and I think a lot of people are underestimating them because of what happened last year. But there's still no way. Everyone would have to go off for a whole series, which isn't the case for Brooklyn.

If you truly believe they have about a 10% chance at the title, then I don't know what to tell you.

As a side note: this kinda makes your whole "preseason odds" argument look solid, eh? If the pre POST-SEASON odds are for suckers :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Its much harder earned than going through demar derozan raptors, al horford / millsap hawks, or rookie tatum celtics I can tell you that.

If the Nets have a 60% chance of winning each series that means they have a .6^4 = 12% chance of winning the title. Now imagine if they had a free trip to the Finals... 60% chance at the title.

Now do you see how hard it is to complete a gauntlet?


what about, the finals?

lol

who do you think has a tougher time winning a title

15-18 lebron, or current kd?

dont act stupid

[ArbitraryWater]

Durant's missed half the season due to injury. Who's the last player to win a title + FMVP after missing half a season? How about coming back from an ACL/Achilles tear and winning it all as the best player?

who tf cares? he's fine

nowadays players come back from that

[ImKobe]

They have by far the most stacked team in the league, what are you on about? :lol

Hey, it's the people in this thread & others saying that the Nets have a tough road and that they're not beating all these teams without HCA. They obviously have the best team (at least on paper) in the league but haven't played much together and their two best players have been out all year and it's their first year together with a rookie HC. This ain't peak KD joining the Warriors.

[tpols]

Dude they're fvcking resting for the playoffs. You know this. Durant and Harden are fine.

They also have the highest record in the east by FAR against teams that are over .500. Something like 20-10. Both the Bucks and 6ers are around .500 themselves against such teams. And of course that's without the Big 3 even really playing together. These things matter.

If the Nets are only 65/35 over the Celtics, that is literally the easiest money anyone could ever make. That series is more likely to be a sweep than to go even 6 games.

The 6ers have no shot either. Embiid will get his but they don't have enough weapons overall. That one is more like 70/30 in favor of the Nets

The Bucks present an interesting challenge, and I think a lot of people are underestimating them because of what happened last year. But there's still no way. Everyone would have to go off for a whole series, which isn't the case for Brooklyn.

If you truly believe they have about a 10% chance at the title, then I don't know what to tell you.

Even by your preposterous standards, like the Sixers with HCA being 70% chance of losing... which is absurd... They're still a [(.7 + .7 + .55 + .5)/4]^4 = 14% chance at the title.

They have no easy skips. Rookie Tatum and Brown Celtics were in the ECFs 3 years ago. Now theyre prime and the Nets will see them in the first round. They aren't seeing Brandon Jennings bucks or Andre Drummond pistons in the first round. They aren't seeing rookies or Derozan raptors or the shitty hawks in the ECFs. They're facing legit teams with superstar talents in every round as an injury prone squad. Go ahead and put your money on them bro. I dare you.

[tontoz]

Before the Playoffs

"That's a tough road..."

"There's no way they're beating all these teams in a row with no HCA.."

After the Playoffs

"Not fair! KD had Harden AND Kyrie! Doesn't count!"

They've played what, 7 games together all season? Harden's still rehabbing from his injury? Durant coming off an achilles injury after being sidelined for 1.5 years? Irving has had what, 2 relatively healthy seasons since leaving Cleveland in 2017 and is batshit crazy?

:oldlol:

Prior to the playoffs last year i remember people talking about what a rough road the Lakers had. Some said they would struggle with Portland.

[Manny98]

Nobodys worried about Philly :oldlol:

EmChoke and Simmons who can't score for shit OMG I'm so scared :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

:oldlol:

Prior to the playoffs last year i remember people talking about what a rough road the Lakers had. Some said they would struggle with Portland.

Yes, and that Avery Bradley was a HUGE loss and how much better he was than Rondo, Javale & Dwight.. :kobe:

[ShawkFactory]

Even by your preposterous standards, like the Sixers with HCA being 70% chance of losing... which is absurd... They're still a [(.7 + .7 + .55 + .5)/4]^4 = 14% chance at the title.

They have no easy skips. Rookie Tatum and Brown Celtics were in the ECFs 3 years ago. Now theyre prime and the Nets will see them in the first round. They aren't seeing Brandon Jennings bucks or Andre Drummond pistons in the first round. They aren't seeing rookies or Derozan raptors or the shitty hawks in the ECFs. They're facing legit teams with superstar talents in every round as an injury prone squad. Go ahead and put your money on them bro. I dare you.

I put a future on them in November at +650. I'm good.

But I'll say this again..if the POST-SEASON odds are for suckers, that really makes your preseason odds argument looks pretty good doesn't it :lol

[tpols]

:oldlol:

Prior to the playoffs last year i remember people talking about what a rough road the Lakers had. Some said they would struggle with Portland.

The Lakers got an easy road with the clippers being knocked off and a +6000 team in Miami making the Finals who also had an injured Bam. That was an outlier lineup they got. Lets see if they can repeat it this year.

[tpols]

I put a future on them in November at +650. I'm good.

But I'll say this again..if the POST-SEASON odds are for suckers, that really makes your preseason odds argument looks pretty good doesn't it :lol

You're going to lose your money either way. You put that bet up before Harden even got there lol. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell the Nets wouldve won a title without Harden. They'd probably be a 6 or 7 seed right now without him carrying the team mid season.

[ShawkFactory]

You're going to lose your money either way.You put that bet up before Harden even got there lol. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell the Nets wouldve won a title without Harden. They'd probably be a 6 or 7 seed right now without him carrying the team mid season.

What does that matter? Harden is on the team, and will be healthy in the playoffs :lol

Why would I put more money at 200 when I already have it at 650 in that case?

And why are Vegas odds all of a sudden no longer a good indication as to what is supposed to happen?

[tpols]

What does that matter? Harden is on the team, and will be healthy in the playoffs :lol

Why would I put more money at 200 when I already have it at 650 in that case?

And why are Vegas odds all of a sudden no longer a good indication as to what is supposed to happen?

Because the Nets have been injured all season. People expected Kyrie and Durant to be fresh but they weren't. If you were to tell me that KD, Harden, and Kyrie were all to play 60+ games with one another and then be healthy for the whole playoff run id agree with the odds. Shit... if you were to tell me they weren't healthy, but got to face a cupcake line up to make the Finals I'd probably say the same thing. But neither of those things have happened. And there will always be minor discrepancies in odds vs reality. That's how sharks make money, and sheep lose. Clippers have huge title odds right now and I agree with that. They are the true favorites with the bucks being the best value pick.

[ShawkFactory]

Because the Nets have been injured all season. People expected Kyrie and Durant to be fresh but they weren't. If you were to tell me that KD, Harden, and Kyrie were all to play 60+ games with one another and then be healthy for the whole playoff run id agree with the odds. Shit... if you were to tell me they weren't healthy, but got to face a cupcake line up to make the Finals I'd probably say the same thing. But neither of those things have happened. And there will always be minor discrepancies in odds vs reality. That's how sharks make money, and sheep lose. Clippers have huge title odds right now and I agree with that. They are the true favorites with the bucks being the best value pick.

Which is why your previous arguments are bullshit. You seem to now be all for the idea that something like seeing the name Lebron James or Kevin Durant will entice these so-called sheep to place bets in their favor. Particularly at the beginning of the season when no one has seen what the actual team looks like. We're in total agreement here.

Before you were saying it's based purely on what “should happen” and now you're saying it's based on what suckers are likely to bet...which is what everyone told you.

[tpols]

Which is why your previous arguments are bullshit. You seem to now be all for the idea that something like seeing the name Lebron James or Kevin Durant will entice these so-called sheep to place bets in their favor. Particularly at the beginning of the season when no one has seen what the actual team looks like. We're in total agreement here.

Before you were saying it's based purely on what “should happen” and now you're saying it's based on what suckers are likely to bet...which is what everyone told you.

There not bullshit at all. I said pre season odds gauged a teams talent level. This is 100% true and proven. You even put your hard earned money on it lmao.

Now... what a team does with that talent is yet to be seen. They can over or under achieve with it.

[ShawkFactory]

There not bullshit at all. I said pre season odds gauged a teams talent level. This is 100% true and proven. You even put your hard earned money on it lmao.

Now... what a team does with that talent is yet to be seen. They can over or under achieve with it.

So that's only preseason odds that do that? Once we get near the postseason..now that's when Vegas starts trying to win some money on the sheep by favoring the big names, right? No. The people who don't know what they're doing bet on the big names. Doesn't matter when. Lebron James is the biggest name since Michael Jordan. It is what it is. Why are the Lakers +350 right now?

As for why I bet on them (and it wasn't a lot btw), I tend hedge emotions at times. I really really didn't want the Bucs to win the Super Bowl so I put $100 on them at the start of the playoffs. I put money on the Dodgers to win the WS when they were down 3-1 to Atlanta, hoping like hell that I'd lose some money. Ended up being heartbroken but at least I won something.

In November I really didn't want the Nets to win the title so I figured I'd throw down. The +650 was almost inconsequential.

[ArbitraryWater]

tpols really still lying to himself

Tough scene

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Having 3 offensive superstars like that is pretty much pointless because they will not all 3 be able to dominate the same time. 1 of them will have to sacrifice their stats and then be called a choker and the reason they lost (most likely Harden).

[aj1987]

Its much harder earned than going through demar derozan raptors, al horford / millsap hawks, or rookie tatum celtics I can tell you that.

Now do you see how hard it is to complete a gauntlet?
Are we honestly gonna compare this ultra super team to the Cavs with LeBron and basically trash? Dummy.

[tpols]

Are we honestly gonna compare this ultra super team to the Cavs with LeBron and basically trash? Dummy.

LeBron and basically trash? One of the best players on the Nets was one of the best players on Cleveland.

:roll:

What a clown take.

[aj1987]

LeBron and basically trash? One of the best players on the Nets was one of the best players on Cleveland.

:roll:

What a clown take.

Well, for one, Irving was playing WITH rookie Tatum. So there's that.

In the series with the Horford/Millsap Hawks, Irving played 2 games.

As for Toronto, LeBron has always owned them.

Whose take is a clown take now, you ****ing retard? :roll: :roll:

[coin24]

The deadly 76ers with embeta who’s getting shut down by hernagomez right now?:lol
Ooh the nets must be shaking in their boots..

And the bucks?:roll:
Even the nets can pack the paint and expose gianus as nothing

[tpols]

Well, for one, Irving was playing WITH rookie Tatum. So there's that.

No he wasn't. Kyrie didn't play in the 2018 ECFs.

What type of dope are you smoking bro? So the Nets are some ultra super team with Kyrie but Cleveland with Kyrie was trash?

:lol :facepalm

Talk about a fail argument.

[fourkicks44]

The deadly 76ers with embeta who’s getting shut down by hernagomez right now?:lol
Ooh the nets must be shaking in their boots..

And the bucks?:roll:
Even the nets can pack the paint and expose gianus as nothing

Yeah, um, that didn't actually happen sorry, buddy.

Try again.

[coin24]

Yeah, um, that didn't actually happen sorry, buddy.

Try again.

Scoreless in the 4th and was airballing layups in crunch time

Poor embeta going to be crying again when they get bounced

[ArbitraryWater]

No he wasn't. Kyrie didn't play in the 2018 ECFs.

What type of dope are you smoking bro? So the Nets are some ultra super team with Kyrie but Cleveland with Kyrie was trash?

:lol :facepalm

Talk about a fail argument.

Um, don‘t they have Harden, also? Kinda maybe the BITW?

And a much better Kyrie?

Hm

[ArbitraryWater]

You're going to lose your money either way. You put that bet up before Harden even got there lol. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell the Nets wouldve won a title without Harden. They'd probably be a 6 or 7 seed right now without him carrying the team mid season.

There isnt a snowballs chance in hell KD would win a title with Kyrie, LeVert, Allen and Harris?

Thats, not good.

LeBron won it with less against a 73-win team

[fourkicks44]

Scoreless in the 4th and was airballing layups in crunch time

Poor embeta going to be crying again when they get bounced

That is not true either.

Please stop.

[aj1987]

No he wasn't. Kyrie didn't play in the 2018 ECFs.

What type of dope are you smoking bro? So the Nets are some ultra super team with Kyrie but Cleveland with Kyrie was trash?

:lol :facepalm

Talk about a fail argument.

Are you autistic? KYRIE WAS WITH THE CELTICS WHEN LEBRON BEAT THE CELTICS. It was literally LeBron and trash.

You got embarrassed and now you're just shit posting. You have the basketball intelligence of a retarded monkey and you're putting it on full display right now.

[Hey Yo]

Hey, it's the people in this thread & others saying that the Nets have a tough road and that they're not beating all these teams without HCA. They obviously have the best team (at least on paper) in the league but haven't played much together and their two best players have been out all year and it's their first year together with a rookie HC. This ain't peak KD joining the Warriors.
Exaggerate much??