View Full Version : Lebron manufactured every aspect of career, from his tough childhood to his jumper
3ball
05-10-2021, 12:53 PM
* 9 year old kids don't know that they're living a "hard life", and by the time Lebron was 10, he'd been discovered and given whatever he wanted (coddled/spoiled) from that point forward.. By the time he was 17, his Mom got Hummers and he had $100 million contract.. So his "tough childhood" is manufactured.
* Lebron manufactured a Finals-streak by forming a super-team in a conference that 1-star teams were winning.. Imagine if Dwight Howard won the 09' East and then added Wade and Bosh to guarantee future Finals runs.. It's the definition of manufacturing a streak
* Lebron doesn't take contested jumpers, so his jumpshooting efficiency is manufactured by only taking open jumpers.. He gets away with only taking open jumpers by being on super-teams with other stars to take the tough shots
HOW AM I WRONG
FultzNationRISE
05-10-2021, 12:57 PM
OP, I will ****ING CUT YOU.
Shooter
05-10-2021, 01:01 PM
1-9
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 01:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EDmIgMbHI8
All from first Cleveland stint.
3ball
05-10-2021, 01:07 PM
OP, I will ****ING CUT YOU.
It's a statistical fact that Lebron doesn't take contested jumpers, while other stars like KD, Harden or Kawhi take plenty
Lebron gets away with a weak jumper by being on super-teams with stars that can take the tough shots, so lebron just takes open jumpers and pretends his efficiency is good
3ball
05-10-2021, 01:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EDmIgMbHI8
All from first Cleveland stint.
89% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/2544/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) of Lebron's jumpers were uncontested in 2020, compared to 69% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/202695/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Kawhi, 61% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201935/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Harden, and 50% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201142/shots-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for KDGoat (2019 stats).
Lebron gets away with a weak jumper by being on super-teams with stars that can take the tough shots, so lebron just takes open jumpers and pretends his efficiency is good.
this is the statistical fact and historical record, so lebron is 100% manufacturing his jumper by being on super-teams where he can avoid contested jumpers
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 01:20 PM
89% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/2544/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) of Lebron's jumpers were uncontested in 2020, compared to 69% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/202695/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Kawhi, 61% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201935/shots-dash/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for Harden, and 50% (https://www.nba.com/stats/player/201142/shots-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for KDGoat (2019 stats).
Lebron gets away with a weak jumper by being on super-teams with stars that can take the tough shots, so lebron just takes open jumpers and pretends his efficiency is good.
this is the statistical fact and historical record, so lebron is 100% manufacturing his jumper by being on super-teams where he can avoid contested jumpers
The video I posted is not from 2020. A decade before that actually.
3ball
05-10-2021, 01:25 PM
The video I posted is not from 2020. A decade before that actually.
Tracking data exists since 2014, so I'll post those stats, but we already know that Lebron was avoiding tough shots in 2014 more than any other year (see his passive Finals that year)..
So stand by... The other stats will be posted shortly
Furthermore, Lebron shot 30% on jumpers in the 4th quarter of the 09' ECF, including 3 lost leads in the 4th and getting destroyed in the critical Game 4 OT that swung the series - so Lebron might've been taking contested jumpers back then, but he damn sure wasn't hitting them lol - he also shot 36% in the 07' Finals and 08' ECSF
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 01:32 PM
Tracking data exists since 2014, so I'll post those stats, but we already know that Lebron was avoiding tough shots in 2014 more than any other year (see his passive Finals that year).. And I posted these stats previouslyfor 2018, where 94% of his jumpers were uncontested
So stand by... The other stats will be posted shortly
Furthermore, Lebron shot 30% on jumpers in the 4th quarter of the 09' ECF, including 3 lost leads in the 4th and getting destroyed in the critical Game 4 OT that swung the series - so Lebron might've been taking contested jumpers back then, but he damn sure wasn't hitting them lol - he also shot 36% in the 07' Finals and 08' ECSF
He had 10 points in that overtime and hit 2 threes.
Also won a jump ball against Dwight with 16 seconds left that led to his second 3, and got his team within 1.
3ball
05-10-2021, 01:36 PM
He had 10 points in that overtime and hit 2 threes.
Also won a jump ball against Dwight with 16 seconds left that led to his second 3, and got his team within 1.
He shot like dogshit in that OT and shot his team out of the game because he can't hit contested jumpers.. he also had 4 turnovers in the OT (butterfingers in the clutch)
Meanwhile, Dwight barely missed and outplayed Lebron
Ultimately, Lebron was the biggest puss* in that series for guarding Courtney Lee instead of guarding his position Rashard Lewis, who hit every big shot for the Magic
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 01:50 PM
He shot like dogshit in that OT and shot his team out of the game because he can't hit contested jumpers.. he also had 4 turnovers in the OT (butterfingers in the clutch)
Meanwhile, Dwight barely missed and outplayed Lebron
Ultimately, Lebron was the biggest puss* in that series for guarding Courtney Lee instead of guarding his position Rashard Lewis, who hit every big shot for the Magic
He was 3-7 from the field. One of the misses was a block by Dwight that he got back.
"getting destroyed" is not the right term. He had one bad turnover after a rebound where he tried to force the action down the court. Led to an easy bucket the other way. Other than that, he played just fine.
As far as defense goes...you either didn't watch the series, don't actually know the game, or think that I didn't watch/don't know. Rashard Lewis was their power forward. He was not a 3. He was guarded by Varajao for the most part...because he was the Cavs 4 and would not have been able to keep up with Turkoglu or Lee if Lebron switched to Lewis. Second, the Cavs used Lebron as a defensive middle linebacker for the most part anyway. He'd roam the middle and play help a lot. This was a strength of his defensively and you can't afford to do that when you're man is Rashard Lewis. So putting Lebron on Lewis would have made the overall defense much worse. Kind of like how the Cowboys wouldn't usually put Deion Sanders on a teams #1 receiver.
He wasn't afraid of the assignment. Reference the 2011 ECF or the 2013 finals for this (shutting down Rose and Tony Parker)
90sgoat
05-10-2021, 01:57 PM
Lebron is the definition of a spoiled brat.
Once he retires, we're going to hear a lot of stories about his antics.
Derka
05-10-2021, 02:03 PM
How does anybody have this kind of time on their hands?
tpols
05-10-2021, 02:09 PM
This was a strength of his defensively and you can't afford to do that when you're man is Rashard Lewis.
So you're basically admitting they put Lebron on the weakest offensive player so he could hunt steals. If he's such an elite defender why wasnt he guarding the Magics best perimeter players? That seems like a cop out. MJ and Pippen both took the toughest assignments and still played great help defense.
Ainosterhaspie
05-10-2021, 02:17 PM
So you're basically admitting they put Lebron on the weakest offensive player so he could hunt steals. If he's such an elite defender why wasnt he guarding the Magics best perimeter players? That seems like a cop out. MJ and Pippen both took the toughest assignments and still played great help defense.
The Magic had like five guys hot from three. Park LeBron on one and it does nothing to stop the rest. It takes him out of the defense. This was an issue with Kawhi during his last healthy Spurs season. He could shut down whoever the Spurs put him on, but teams just shifted the offense to other players and he stopped being as impactful. A shut down man defender isn't useful if a team isn't reliant on a single player to create offense.
Kobe roaming off Rondo helped the Lakers win 2010. If he was locking up Pierce or Allen, it wouldn't have been as useful. Team and help defense is more important that man defense in most situations.
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 02:19 PM
So you're basically admitting they put Lebron on the weakest offensive player so he could hunt steals. If he's such an elite defender why wasnt he guarding the Magics best perimeter players? That seems like a cop out. MJ and Pippen both took the toughest assignments and still played great help defense.
I mean he was...
His primary assignments were Lee and Pietrus mostly. Sometimes Turkoglu. But in 4th quarters would take Alston from time to time as well.
You watched back then...that's just what the Cavs did. Lebron was their middle linebacker, centerfielder, strong safety, however you want to say it. As for why this happened: "hunting steals" is your Lebron hater brain going haywire. Delonte West, Mo Williams, Gibson, their entire back court really were all weak defenders. Delonte was ok I guess. But he'd pretty frequently have to help them out. Coach knew this, and there's no way you can afford to just stick Lebron on one guy.
tpols
05-10-2021, 02:30 PM
The Magic had like five guys hot from three. Park LeBron on one and it does nothing to stop the rest. It takes him out of the defense. This was an issue with Kawhi during his last healthy Spurs season. He could shut down whoever the Spurs put him on, but teams just shifted the offense to other players and he stopped being as impactful. A shut down man defender isn't useful if a team isn't reliant on a single player to create offense.
Kobe roaming off Rondo helped the Lakers win 2010. If he was locking up Pierce or Allen, it wouldn't have been as useful. Team and help defense is more important that man defense in most situations.
Rondo was on a total tear that year. He was arguably the Celtics best player in the playoffs. So Kobe guarding him meant something. Not really comparable to Courtney Lee.
tontoz
05-10-2021, 02:30 PM
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/images_zpsnqqsulgp.jpeg
Johnny32
05-10-2021, 02:34 PM
pretty sure lebron's mom was a crackhead and he lived with his hs coach. sounds like a normal upbringing.
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 02:42 PM
pretty sure lebron's mom was a crackhead and he lived with his hs coach. sounds like a normal upbringing.
She banged many man and after one of her orgy "adventures", Lebald was born. No, she didn't stop after that, she kept getting banged and eventually got famous because of Delonte many years after. That's what she wanted anyways stamped all over her face, I guess she got what she wanted, the "HARD" way.
Johnny32
05-10-2021, 02:45 PM
It's a statistical fact that Lebron doesn't take contested jumpers, while other stars like KD, Harden or Kawhi take plenty
Lebron gets away with a weak jumper by being on super-teams with stars that can take the tough shots, so lebron just takes open jumpers and pretends his efficiency is good
hurrr, they can't get to the rim at will, durrr
8Ball
05-10-2021, 02:54 PM
Less manufactured than Jordan.
LeBron always joined garbage teams and rebuilt them from the ground.
When Jordan joined a team after his first Load Management time off, the team won 55 games without him.
Manufactured.
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 02:56 PM
It's a statistical fact that Lebron doesn't take contested jumpers, while other stars like KD, Harden or Kawhi take plenty
Lebron gets away with a weak jumper by being on super-teams with stars that can take the tough shots, so lebron just takes open jumpers and pretends his efficiency is good
I agree, He avoids it like the plague, specially now that he got so old, dumb and slow.
He could only win a championship with the MAGNIFICENT Ray Allen or Mike Miller or even Chalmers going nuts from 3 and bailing the "Goat out".
Remember, he also needed a rebounder just to rebound for him (Bird Man, Davis, NOW DRUMMOND) and then they talk crap about jordan, lol
There will be a day that LeFauxGoat will need some one doing his nails at halftime. What a pathetic king, that DOESN'T FIGHT HIS OWN WARS!
Johnny32
05-10-2021, 03:05 PM
I agree, He avoids it like the plague, specially now that he got so old, dumb and slow.
He could only win a championship with the MAGNIFICENT Ray Allen or Mike Miller or even Chalmers going nuts from 3 and bailing the "Goat out".
Remember, he also needed a rebounder just to rebound for him (Bird Man, Davis, NOW DRUMMOND) and then they talk crap about jordan, lol
There will be a day that LeFauxGoat will need some one doing his nails at halftime. What a pathetic king, that DOESN'T FIGHT HIS OWN WARS!
uh, lebron has led his team in rebounding in the finals in every championship he won. jordan has done that exactly zero times. imagine being this clueless lol.
Ainosterhaspie
05-10-2021, 03:05 PM
Rondo was on a total tear that year. He was arguably the Celtics best player in the playoffs. So Kobe guarding him meant something. Not really comparable to Courtney Lee.
He couldn't shoot. Lakers took away his passes and drives, Kobe roamed and he was impotent.
8Ball
05-10-2021, 03:14 PM
uh, lebron has led his team in rebounding in the finals in every championship he won. jordan has done that exactly zero times. imagine being this clueless lol.
DABIGSALSISHA is a 3ball level troll, he has the mental IQ of Delonte West. :roll:
3balls and Tpols get destroyed in every single thread and they keep coming back for more. Insane stuff.
3ball
05-10-2021, 03:26 PM
hurrr, they can't get to the rim at will, durrr
All those guys average more ppg than Lebron, so Lebron's rim attacks can't be done at will and barely get him top 15 scoring.
And they're also dribble-heavy, which prevents the best strategy (ball movement), teammate fit, and ultimately, team ceiling (4/11).
Otoh, players with elite jumpshooting skill allow the best strategy (ball movement), teammate fit, and ultimately, team ceiling (6/6).
Ultimately, every team is forced into contested jumpers on some of possessions and Lebron defers them to lesser teammates.
3ball
05-10-2021, 03:30 PM
uh, lebron has led his team in rebounding in the finals in every championship he won. jordan has done that exactly zero times. imagine being this clueless lol.
Who cares about being a rebounder
it isn't optimal for a SG to lead the team in rebounding
Jordan carried the scoring and clutch load, which lebron never did in any Finals, won or lost
3ball
05-10-2021, 03:32 PM
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LeBron always joined garbage teams
Lebron hand-picked the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to underdog or loser every year except the Ray Allen miracle
Twice he landed on Year 1 league favorite (11' and 15'), which is the easiest path possible and much easier than building favorite status over several years
8Ball
05-10-2021, 03:39 PM
Lebron hand-picked the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to underdog or loser every year except the Ray Allen miracle
Twice he landed on Year 1 league favorite (11' and 15'), which is the easiest path possible and much easier than building favorite status over several years
Jordan was a gifted a Kawhi level Toronto Raptors 2019 team that won 55 games without him.
tpols
05-10-2021, 03:47 PM
He couldn't shoot. Lakers took away his passes and drives, Kobe roamed and he was impotent.
Doesn't matter... Rondo was still going off in those playoffs. Shit... vs Cleveland he hung 21/12/7 on an elite 118 ORTG and was the leading scorer for the Celtics. Versus Kobe? 13/8 on 106 ORTG. So it looks like Kobe did a damn good job. Maybe LeBron should've shut Rondo down like that and the Cavs mightve won that series that they had with HCA.
3ball
05-10-2021, 03:48 PM
Jordan was a gifted a Kawhi level Toronto Raptors 2019 team that won 55 games without him.
I've always said that Jordan won 6 titles with a Lowry-level sidekick
The best teams are those with shit talent that still win because they win via strategy/brand of ball.
So Jordan is goat for fitting his scoring champion carry-jobs into the best brand of strategy, teamwork, and brand of ball - it's completely unprecedented for a scoring champion to play championship team ball
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 03:52 PM
Doesn't matter... Rondo was still going off in those playoffs. Shit... vs Cleveland he hung 21/12/7 on an elite 118 ORTG and was the leading scorer for the Celtics. Versus Kobe? 13/8 on 106 ORTG. So it looks like Kobe did a damn good job. Maybe LeBron should've shut Rondo down like that and the Cavs mightve won that series that they had with HCA.
Because Lebron was guarding Pierce.
Because Lebron was guarding Pierce.
:roll: :roll:
Ttrolls getting abused as usual.
3ball
05-10-2021, 04:14 PM
Because Lebron was guarding Pierce.
Lebron didn't score in the last 6 minutes of the series-turning Game 4, while Rondo completely took over and beat Lebron by himself
Ultimately, Boston lost when Rondo played badly (Finals), but won when Pierce played bad (2nd Rd)
so Rondo was the lynchpin that needed containment (otherwise boston would win) and Kobe contained him while Lebron didn't.. Kobe actually spent time defending Rondo and Pierce
tpols
05-10-2021, 04:16 PM
Because Lebron was guarding Pierce.
Exactly. He couldn't take the Celtics best scorer in that series out of the game. Kobe doesn't play point guard. He was purposely switched out of position to defend Boston's hottest player.
Spurs m8
05-10-2021, 04:20 PM
Listen to the way the big networks talk about him too...
100% manufactured
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 04:24 PM
uh, lebron has led his team in rebounding in the finals in every championship he won. Jordan has done that exactly zero times. Imagine being this clueless lol.
birdman
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 04:24 PM
Kobe spent time defending Pierce and Rondo
Ultimately, Lebron didn't score in the last 6 minutes of the series-turning Game 4, while Rondo completely took over and beat Lebron by himself
Ultimately, Boston lost when Rondo played badly (Finals), but won when Pierce played bad (2nd Rd)
so Rondo was the lynchpin that needed containment (otherwise boston would win) - Kobe contained the lynchpin; Lebron didn't
What are you, fvcking 8 years old with this logic :lol
Teams are different, matchups are different, strategies are different etc.
Correlation does not equal causation. It's weird that I have to explain that to someone presumably in their 40s.
But anyway, the Celtics beat the Cavs in 2010 because Lebron, for whatever reason (and we can feel free to have fun speculating as to what that reason is), completely checked out after game 3. And Delonte West scored 7 points total in games 4-6.
That was a weird situation. The Cavs were better and Lebron (and the Cavs in general) just played the best game that anyone had against the Celtics in their entire 3 year run from 2008-2010. At least as far as playoffs go.
I remember that so clearly. It wasn't fear at all, just pure...apathy.
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 04:25 PM
Exactly. He couldn't take the Celtics best scorer in that series out of the game. Kobe doesn't play point guard. He was purposely switched out of position to defend Boston's hottest player.
Pierce was the Celtics' best scorer...
tpols
05-10-2021, 04:31 PM
Pierce was the Celtics' best scorer...
Rondo had the highest playoff VORP, PER, BPM you name it and his best series was vs Cleveland. He outscored Pierce there. If Rondo doesn't go off in that series, the Celtics wouldve lost. He put up a superstar line on them, but put up role player numbers vs the Lakers.
3ball
05-10-2021, 04:33 PM
Rondo had the highest playoff VORP, PER, BPM you name it and his best series was vs Cleveland. He outscored Pierce there. If Rondo doesn't go off in that series, the Celtics wouldve lost. He put up a superstar line on them, but put up role player numbers vs the Lakers.
Lebron has a penchant for running away from the key defensive assignment, like the 09' ECF when he guarded Courtney Lee, or when he walked away on a key possession vs KD, and the 10 ECSF vs Rondo
Pierce was the Celtics' best scorer...
:roll: :roll: :roll:
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 04:35 PM
Less manufactured than Jordan.
LeBron always joined garbage teams and rebuilt them from the ground.
When Jordan joined a team after his first Load Management time off, the team won 55 games without him.
Manufactured.
LeBron always joined hahahahahahahahah
No he didn't rebuild them from the ground up son, That's a lie! When he got to Miami, they had Wade, Bosh incoming, Pat Riley and a TON of CASH $$$ HE BOUGHT HIS CHAMPIONSHIP IN MIAMI. REBUILD , MY AS$ , that's more Baloney from your end!!
Jordan was the one that built Pippen from the ground up, made Pippen stronger than ever. :applause::applause::applause: GOAT and guess what? Pippen was alway beside him true friends and perfect chemistry on the court.
Lebron on the other hand, used WADE until his knees gave up, Used Kevin Love and Thompson and then abandoned them,
The man with a basketball in one hand and the suitcase in the other. Maybe Lebron builds his teams inside the plane from the AIR UP because he is always flying to go to a different Team/town switching, joining. lmao
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1wJ-740xJ2k/maxresdefault.jpg
:lol:
3ball
05-10-2021, 04:37 PM
The man with a basketball in one hand and the suitcase in the other.
omg I'm dead... :yaohappy:
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 04:37 PM
Lebron has a penchant for running away from the key defensive assignment, like the 09' ECF when he guarded Courtney Lee, or when he walked away on a key possession vs KD, and the 10 ECSF vs Rondo
Courtney Lee was being hailed as a Future NBA All Star in 2009, but he never became one. And he was traded to the Nets for Vince Carter.
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 04:38 PM
LeBron always joined hahahahahahahahah
No he didn't rebuild them from the ground up son, That's a lie! When he got to Miami, they had Wade, Bosh incoming, Pat Riley and a TON of CASH $$$ HE BOUGHT HIS CHAMPIONSHIP IN MIAMI. REBUILD , MY AS$ , that's more Baloney from your end!!
Jordan was the one that built Pippen from the ground up, made Pippen stronger than ever. :applause::applause::applause: GOAT and guess what? Pippen was alway beside him true friends and perfect chemistry on the court.
Lebron on the other hand, used WADE until his knees gave up, Used Kevin Love and Thompson and then abandoned them,
The man with a basketball in one hand and the suitcase in the other. Maybe Lebron builds his teams from the AIR UP because he is always flying to go to a different Team/town. lmao
Jordan never won a playoff series without Scottie Pippen.
Ainosterhaspie
05-10-2021, 04:39 PM
Rondo had the highest playoff VORP, PER, BPM you name it and his best series was vs Cleveland. He outscored Pierce there. If Rondo doesn't go off in that series, the Celtics wouldve lost. He put up a superstar line on them, but put up role player numbers vs the Lakers.
And the Lakers neutralized that by essentially not guarding him. They could team defend if he got into the paint and Kobe could "guard" him by playing off him and playing passing lanes. He wasn't a scorer. He was a passer, so they took that away and he couldn't hit open jumpers to make them pay.
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 04:40 PM
Doesn't matter... Rondo was still going off in those playoffs. Shit... vs Cleveland he hung 21/12/7 on an elite 118 ORTG and was the leading scorer for the Celtics. Versus Kobe? 13/8 on 106 ORTG. So it looks like Kobe did a damn good job. Maybe LeBron should've shut Rondo down like that and the Cavs mightve won that series that they had with HCA.
Kobe was a terrible finals performer among the top 10-12 players of all time.
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 04:44 PM
Kobe was a terrible finals performer among the top 10-12 players of all time.
Stop the Lebron RimJob.
ShawkFactory
05-10-2021, 04:45 PM
Rondo had the highest playoff VORP, PER, BPM you name it and his best series was vs Cleveland. He outscored Pierce there. If Rondo doesn't go off in that series, the Celtics wouldve lost. He put up a superstar line on them, but put up role player numbers vs the Lakers.
Again, Pierce was the best scorer on the team..and the most important defensive assignment.
Let's just play your weird game for a second here and say ok, Lebron is now guarding Rondo for the series. Who on that roster then guards Pierce? He would have roasted anyone else. Who's to say he doesn't do what he's done many times and score 24-25 a game with Lebron guarding the point guard.
It makes no sense, logistically from a basketball standpoint, to have your small forward guarding the other teams point guard for extended stretches when that same team also has a small forward who is the teams best scorer. Makes NO sense. And you know this.
If Lebron guarded Rondo for the entire series of course he wouldn't have scored 20 a game. But what would that have done to the rest of the defense? Rondo had a great series and stepped up while defensive attention was given elsewhere. If anything, the Lakers used that blueprint to beat them. Kind of like the analogy I made earlier where the Cowboys would have Deion Sanders completely lock up the #2 or slot WR and allow doubles to occur on the #1. Can't be having a #2 WR go for 125 and a touchdown.
Pierce was also too big for Kobe to be able to guard him consistently.
tpols
05-10-2021, 04:46 PM
And the Lakers neutralized that by essentially not guarding him. They could team defend if he got into the paint and Kobe could "guard" him by playing off him and playing passing lanes. He wasn't a scorer. He was a passer, so they took that away and he couldn't hit open jumpers to make them pay.
Every team plays Rondo like that. They all sag on him his whole career. The difference is against Cleveland he was able to slither around and beat the coverage anyway, but vs Kobe he couldnt. Was getting beat to the spot every time.
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 04:47 PM
Jordan never won a playoff series without Scottie Pippen.
Jordan built PIPPEN from the ground up, RAISED HIM, Gave him confidence, Milk, made him STRONGER , A CHAMPION! PIPPEN is JORDAN and JORDAN IS PIPPEN. It's a TEAM sport.
THE RESULT IS :
6 Championships
And who Lebron built from the ground up and still playing with him? who won 6 chips with lebron? When did that ever happened ?
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 04:53 PM
omg I'm dead... :yaohappy:
hahaahahahaah :roll:
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 05:00 PM
Jordan built PIPPEN from the ground up, RAISED HIM, Gave him confidence, Milk, made him STRONGER , A CHAMPION! PIPPEN is JORDAN and JORDAN IS PIPPEN. It's a TEAM sport.
THE RESULT IS :
6 Championships
And who Lebron built from the ground up and still playing with him? who won 6 chips with lebron? When did that ever happened ?
I already knew your real account. Mental Ilness really runs in your family. Keep trolling you're over 40.
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 05:03 PM
I already knew your reak account. Mental Ilness real runs in your family. Keep trolling you're over 40. We
Check the airport flights NOW!!!! I heard Your King is already FLYING to go to another TEAM. How many Jerseys of different teams you are gonna have to buy just to kiss his name on the back? So far it's 3 or 4 ... I don't even remember myself lol
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 05:20 PM
Check the airport flights NOW!!!! I heard Your King is already FLYING to go to another TEAM. How many Jerseys of different teams you are gonna have to buy just to kiss his name on the back? So far it's 3 or 4 ... I don't even remember myself lol
Jordan played for the Wizards and failed to lead that team in the playoffs
StrongLurk
05-10-2021, 05:24 PM
OP was gracious enough to share cliff notes of his therapy sessions.
BlackMamba8
05-10-2021, 05:30 PM
Jordan played for the Wizards and failed to lead that team in the playoffs
Are you ok? You seem upset you cant reach lebums nuts to suck?
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 05:36 PM
Are you ok? You seem upset you cant reach lebums nuts to suck?
He can't right now, Lebron is Flying away from L.A. , on the move again. I never heard of a rim job in the air, have you?
Johnny32
05-10-2021, 05:39 PM
birdman
you got shit on with facts and stats.
hurrr, birdman, durrr
r0drig0lac
05-10-2021, 05:47 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=827640&dateline=1620547991&type=thumb
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 05:47 PM
you got shit on with facts and stats.
hurrr, birdman, durrr
Most of these guys are stupid. They disappeared after the Lakers won the championship in 2020. They are a bunch of wannabee Skip Bayless. At least he is getting paid. Most of these trolls are living in their parents basements. Fat, Out of Shape, and their breath smells like $hit.
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 05:48 PM
OP was gracious enough to share cliff notes of his therapy sessions.
43 years old. I felt bad for his children
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 05:52 PM
you got shit on with facts and stats.
hurrr, birdman, durrr
:pimp:
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 05:52 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=827640&dateline=1620547991&type=thumb
?????????
LeCola
05-10-2021, 05:57 PM
Are you ok? You seem upset you cant reach lebums nuts to suck?
Actually, not sucking nuts:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anilingus
Sorry for him. :confusedshrug:
Johnny32
05-10-2021, 05:57 PM
Who cares about being a rebounder
it isn't optimal for a SG to lead the team in rebounding
Jordan carried the scoring and clutch load, which lebron never did in any Finals, won or lost
uh, the guy i quoted.
"Remember, he also needed a rebounder just to rebound for him (Bird Man, Davis, NOW DRUMMOND) and then they talk crap about jordan, lol"
Shooter
05-10-2021, 05:59 PM
Thread Cliffs
• LBJ > MJ by a wide margin
• MJ went 1-9 before Scottie and PJax
Shooter
05-10-2021, 06:00 PM
Jordan never won a playoff series without Scottie Pippen.
Wow is that right? Not even one playoff series?
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 06:13 PM
Actually, not sucking nuts:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anilingus
Sorry for him. :confusedshrug:
Stop, please, I'm dying here, :yaohappy::yaohappy:
It's amazing the treatment the new Gen "Kings" get.
impressive.
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 06:17 PM
Thread Cliffs
• LBJ > MJ by a wide margin
• MJ went 1-9 before Scottie and PJax
https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/sleeping-on-the-couch-picture-id183334570?k=6&m=183334570&s=612x612&w=0&h=5yzeY3CxAZ6Qn7cusjFvDLCAzhcNvUija1KWbGY1Ei8=
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 06:20 PM
?????????
It means you are stupid.
8Ball
05-10-2021, 06:22 PM
Jordan never won a playoff series without Scottie Pippen.
Jordan is 0-5 in winning seasons without Pippen.
Also 1-9 in playoff series without Pippen.
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 06:24 PM
Wow is that right? Not even one playoff series?
And People criticized Pippen's scoring when Jordan was averaging 25 field goal attempts per game.Pippen was already a great player in College. That's why Jerry Krause traded Olden Polynice for him during the nba draft night. Jordan wanted the Bulls management to draft his college teammate.
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 06:29 PM
Wow is that right? Not even one playoff series?
Always the same narrative, over and over and over again.
It's not how you start the race, it's how you finish it ! Lebron never REPEATED and WILL NEVER THREE-PEAT, EVER!! Now, let that sink in for moment....
DABIGSALSISHA
05-10-2021, 06:43 PM
And People criticized Pippen's scoring when Jordan was averaging 25 field goal attempts per game.Pippen was already a great player in College. That's why Jerry Krause traded Olden Polynice for him during the nba draft night. Jordan wanted the Bulls management to draft his college teammate.
It doesn't matter what Jordan wanted. Krause knew what he was doing.
Lebron on the other hand, gets what he wants and who he wants to play with most of the times and still LOSES.
You talk like Lebron never forced shots like a mad man. Bricking Free throws after 18 years, guy should be ashamed of himself.
Jordan matured the right way, Losing and learned to win and kept winning till the end. Washington doesn't count for him. Bulls , the teams he HONORED for his entire career pretty much.
This is Lebron : Lose, lose, lose , lose , lose , lose, win, lose , lose, win, lose , win, lose , lose. You must be so insecure because your guys career is always up and down, always has to go to the extremes with his moves, to accomplish something, not even magic johnson could work with him and left the lakers, Lebron is not a nice guy like you think he is..
Later, pal.
Mr. Woke
05-10-2021, 06:48 PM
OP is a pathetic LeBron hater.
MJ is the most manufactured player of all time.
Lebron23
05-10-2021, 06:52 PM
OP is a pathetic LeBron hater.
MJ is the most manufactured player of all time.
Even stole some gif from reddit pretending to be that guy who was playing at the park. 3ball got banned from realgm, and Psd.
SATAN
05-10-2021, 09:12 PM
"Andrew" the collage phenom talking about anyone else being manufactured. :facepalm
Shooter
05-10-2021, 09:40 PM
All I need to drop is this
https://i.postimg.cc/MGR4Fm7m/GOATchipalltime.jpg
Carry on
Shooter
05-10-2021, 09:40 PM
Even stole some gif from reddit pretending to be that guy who was playing at the park. 3ball got banned from realgm, and Psd.
He faked that gif too :eek: How do you know?
eliteballer
05-10-2021, 09:55 PM
Statpadding, Super Teams, and Steroids..
Lebron23
05-11-2021, 12:20 AM
He faked that gif too :eek: How do you know?
Saw that gif from reddit before he posted it here.
Lebron23
05-11-2021, 12:27 AM
Statpadding, Super Teams, and Steroids..
All time leading scorer in the playoffs, finals, 4x nba mvp, 4x finals mvp
miggyme1
05-11-2021, 02:28 AM
He was still living in the hood from age 10-18, wtf are u talking about. Ok so he started getting spoiled with attention and Espn articles.....doesn’t change where he was living. U people get on here and say the dumbest things. If u go look up a video of him hooping in his sophomore year of high school u could see he had a tough childhood,his hair and shoes looked horrible.
Shooter
05-11-2021, 02:38 AM
Saw that gif from reddit before he posted it here.
Wow, what a piece of shit he is :lol
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