What happened to the "All politicians are crooked" crowd?

[Patrick Chewing]

I remember reading posts here for years just talking about how one side is not any better than the other cause all politicians are out for themselves and they're all crooked and blah blah blah.

Then, the American public elects a non-politician to be President, and all hell breaks loose. Now, I will admit that Trump has always been a flawed man in terms of his ego, but the man was a Populist President. He ran on railing against the establishment on both sides. Before he drove Democrats crazy, he completely obliterated lifetime politicians like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and John Kasich.

Then, as soon as he became President, all of you were against him and supporting Democrats again in impeaching him for no reason other than he didn't bow to the establishment. You're all of a sudden in favor of big government and you're so patriotic now after the Jan. 6th Capitol Hill riot. I thought you people hated the government? Hated the establishment? Hated career politicians? Suddenly someone comes in there and starts to ruffle feathers and rail against the establishment, and you morons decide to attack him? What gives? Why the sudden change of heart and become pro-government again? Is it really just because Trump ran as a Republican and not a Democrat? You're upset because he wasn't from your Party?

[Code Breaker]

OP still obsessing and missing daddy Trump :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

OP still obsessing and missing daddy Trump :roll:

Low-IQ voter right here, folks. Typical person that railed against the government, saw Trump rail against the government, and then flipped the script on himself and went against Trump. He is a slave to Democrats.

[Code Breaker]

Low-IQ voter right here, folks. Typical person that railed against the government, saw Trump rail against the government, and then flipped the script on himself and went against Trump. He is a slave to Democrats.

:roll:

[ralph_i_el]

Do you actually care about the things the government does after elections, or just about who is mad? Normally someone who cares enough about politics to post daily screeds also has some sort of issues they care about.

[Patrick Chewing]

Do you actually care about the things the government does after elections, or just about who is mad? Normally someone who cares enough about politics to post daily screeds also has some sort of issues they care about.

We are worse off in the first 100 days of a Biden presidency, then in the previous 4 years of a Trump presidency. So I care about the ramifications of voting someone out because of some fabricated hatred you had for him, only to vote in someone who is 100 times worse and justify it by saying things like, "Finally we can get back to normal". Normal? Inflation? Higher taxes? Gas shortages? Middle East tension? China eating our lunch? Not normal by a long shot.

[Code Breaker]

We are worse off in the first 100 days of a Biden presidency, then in the previous 4 years of a Trump presidency. So I care about the ramifications of voting someone out because of some fabricated hatred you had for him, only to vote in someone who is 100 times worse and justify it by saying things like, "Finally we can get back to normal". Normal? Inflation? Higher taxes? Gas shortages? Middle East tension? China eating our lunch? Not normal by a long shot.


Where you in a coma the past 14 months. Majority of that shit happened during Trumps presidency despite who your going to predictably blame :biggums:

[ralph_i_el]

We are worse off in the first 100 days of a Biden presidency, then in the previous 4 years of a Trump presidency. So I care about the ramifications of voting someone out because of some fabricated hatred you had for him, only to vote in someone who is 100 times worse and justify it by saying things like, "Finally we can get back to normal". Normal? Inflation? Higher taxes? Gas shortages? Middle East tension? China eating our lunch? Not normal by a long shot.

Inflation- Trump cut the first stimulus checks. The FED under Trump continued quantitative easing

Higher Taxes- Raising taxes on income over 400k to levels STILL LOWER than before Bush's tax cuts. We are still at one of the lowest tax rates in the history of US income tax. This is a tax increase that impacts about 1% of Americans.

Gas Shortages- I would bet this is a non-issue a week from now.

Middle East tension- Biden appointed a huge pro-Israel hawk in Blinken as SoS, and he's continued the exact same policies of Pompeo

China "Eating our lunch"- Trump had China literally NOT eating our lunch....in the form of not purchasing our farm produce and severely impacting our agriculture sector. What has China done under Biden that has rustled your jimmies?


Trump talked a big game about solving some serious issues caused by the R's and D's....but he didn't actually do anything. He took all our anger at the two parties and used it to grift us. I don't know how you could listen to that guy speak and come away thinking that he actually knew what he was talking about.

[Patrick Chewing]

Where you in a coma the past 14 months. Majority of that shit happened during Trumps presidency despite who your going to predictably blame :biggums:

Is that your shtick? To say the opposite of what I say? None of that happened under the Trump presidency. None of it. All the financial strife here at home and political strife happening abroad is happening under Biden.

[ralph_i_el]

Is that your shtick? To say the opposite of what I say? None of that happened under the Trump presidency. None of it. All the financial strife here at home and political strife happening abroad is happening under Biden.

Almost nothing the president does with the economy would show results within only a few months. If you can't point to anything specific, you're just talking out your ass.

[Code Breaker]

Is that your shtick? To say the opposite of what I say? None of that happened under the Trump presidency. None of it. All the financial strife here at home and political strife happening abroad is happening under Biden.

https://www.bea.gov/news/glance

Annual 2020 -$647.2B Millions out of jobs and unemployed, 10000s dead, But yes there was no financial strife in 2020. I wonder who was president in 2020

[Patrick Chewing]

Almost nothing the president does with the economy would show results within only a few months. If you can't point to anything specific, you're just talking out your ass.

I wonder if you would have afforded Trump the same grace.


Shit's not looking good from where I stand. But I love the people that say that Trump's economic prowess was a result of Obama's 8 years. So, it takes a President 12 years to right the ship? Just want to know how long it takes an administration to actually turn a country around.

[DoctorP]

Because Trump was a nightmare. I actually respect the establishment more now.

Go outside.

[Code Breaker]

He really think people are worse off now than the peak of 2020 pandemic :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

He really think people are worse off now than the peak of 2020 pandemic :roll:

You've really skirted the issue since you waltzed in here. Where are you clowns that hated the establishment, but then voted for a guy who's been in Washington for 46 years in Joe Biden?

Why in the world would you vote for him?? :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

https://youtu.be/KFUe1OWoLj8

[RRR3]

You've really skirted the issue since you waltzed in here. Where are you clowns that hated the establishment, but then voted for a guy who's been in Washington for 46 years in Joe Biden?

Why in the world would you vote for him?? :oldlol:
Trump is literally an oligarch, thinking he’s not part of the establishment is incredibly naive.

[diamenz]

Inflation- Trump cut the first stimulus checks. The FED under Trump continued quantitative easing

Higher Taxes- Raising taxes on income over 400k to levels STILL LOWER than before Bush's tax cuts. We are still at one of the lowest tax rates in the history of US income tax. This is a tax increase that impacts about 1% of Americans.

Gas Shortages- I would bet this is a non-issue a week from now.

Middle East tension- Biden appointed a huge pro-Israel hawk in Blinken as SoS, and he's continued the exact same policies of Pompeo

China "Eating our lunch"- Trump had China literally NOT eating our lunch....in the form of not purchasing our farm produce and severely impacting our agriculture sector. What has China done under Biden that has rustled your jimmies?


Trump talked a big game about solving some serious issues caused by the R's and D's....but he didn't actually do anything. He took all our anger at the two parties and used it to grift us. I don't know how you could listen to that guy speak and come away thinking that he actually knew what he was talking about.

fair argument. from a policy perspective, trump was your typical republican president. tax cuts, deregulation, hard line immigration, etc. he really didn't do anything out of the ordinary besides talk a big game, which was what won him the white house in the first place. it doesn't get you very far after that, though.

trade and foreign policy are what separated him from the rest, but as far as anything out of the ordinary as a non-politician, it was all bluster and political gamesmanship.

[RRR3]

fair argument. from a policy perspective, trump was your typical republican president. tax cuts, deregulation, hard line immigration, etc. he really didn't do anything out of the ordinary besides talk a big game, which was what won him the white house in the first place. it doesn't get you very far after that, though.

trade and foreign policy are what separated him from the rest, but as far as anything out of the ordinary as a non-politician, it was all bluster and political gamesmanship.
His foreign policy was indistinguishable from the rest what the hell are you talking about?

[DoctorP]

Trump was as crooked as they come, even admiting to lying to the populace to a reporter and simps like Chewing still want to suck him off.

Maybe cutting your toes off will bring some bloodflow and sense back into your brain, Chewing.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump was as crooked as they come, even admiting to lying to the populace to a reporter and simps like Chewing still want to suck him off.

Maybe cutting your toes off will bring some bloodflow and sense back into your brain, Chewing.

Crooked how? Explain your position. Sending mean tweets that caused you to wet yourself is not being crooked.

[RRR3]

Crooked how? Explain your position. Sending mean tweets that caused you to wet yourself is not being crooked.
Crooked because he lied and cheats a lot. Look up his business history lmao

[DoctorP]

Crooked how? Explain your position. Sending mean tweets that caused you to wet yourself is not being crooked.

Chewing you're ****ing dumb

[Patrick Chewing]

Crooked because he lied and cheats a lot. Look up his business history lmao

That was him in the private sector. How was he a crooked politician?

[Patrick Chewing]

Chewing you're ****ing dumb

That's your answer to me when cornered? You can do better than that.

[DoctorP]

That's your answer to me when cornered? You can do better than that.

what's the point? youre too stupid.

[RRR3]

That was him in the private sector. How was he a crooked politician?
He made moves that were clearly aimed at pleasing oligarchs rather than helping people (what he was supposed to be doing). See: trying to get rid of the ACA with no replacement and massively lowering corporate tax rates. Also massively increased drone strikes cuz he was a stooge for the defense industry.

[Patrick Chewing]

He made moves that were clearly aimed at pleasing oligarchs rather than helping people (what he was supposed to be doing). See: trying to get rid of the ACA with no replacement and massively lowering corporate tax rates. Also massively increased drone strikes cuz he was a stooge for the defense industry.

You can spin anything the way you'd like with conspiracy theories. "Oh he was doing that to please his oligarch friends hurr hurr hurr". And where is the proof that he dropped more drone strikes than Obama did? You have proof of that? Or more made up fantasies from that polluted brain of yours?

[Patrick Chewing]

what's the point? youre too stupid.

The stupid person is you by evading answering the question. The reason you are doing that is because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You are the stupid person. And your parents are stupid too for birthing you.

[ralph_i_el]

You can spin anything the way you'd like with conspiracy theories. "Oh he was doing that to please his oligarch friends hurr hurr hurr". And where is the proof that he dropped more drone strikes than Obama did? You have proof of that? Or more made up fantasies from that polluted brain of yours?

Here you go numbnuts

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
"There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a UK-based think tank."

So what did Trump do? He just removed the rule that said they had to report the number of casualties. It's likely he killed many times more people with drones than Obama did, but we might not find out the true extent for years.

[ralph_i_el]

Trump could have pardoned any of the rioters from 1/6. Instead he pardoned Kodak Black and Lil Wayne for bribe money. Trump supporters are CUCKS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html

His biggest fans are going to jail, while he was pardoning Manhattan socialites for their fraud charges for $100k.

SAD!

[DoctorP]

The stupid person is you by evading answering the question. The reason you are doing that is because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You are the stupid person. And your parents are stupid too for birthing you.

Nah, there comes a point where talking to a wall becomes a bore

[bladefd]

All politicians are crooked for sure including democrats, but Republican side bit more crooked.

[Patrick Chewing]

Can any of you slimeball Liberals explain why you voted for Biden over Trump? Biden, a man who has been in office for nearly 50 years and has accomplished nothing. A man, who has insulted Blacks for his whole life. A man, who embraced a former Klan member.

Seriously, just fess up. You voted for Biden cause you were tired of being insulted by Trump's mean tweets. Frankly, that's the only answer I'm willing to accept. Cause voting for Biden for any other reason makes no sense at all.

[ralph_i_el]

The Republican party didn't even release a platform for the 2020 election. I voted based on what the political parties said they were going to do when they were in office. How the hell could I justify voting for a political party that had literally no plans other than "Do whatever this methed up reality show host says on any given day"? Caring this much about the individual politician's personalities is very dumb.

I voted for democrats this election because:
1. I was tired of the Trump folks doing low-level mafia type grifts using the federal government. Kushner literally stole PPE from states and sold it out the back door.
2. Republicans want to get rid of the ACA. Democrats at least paid lip service to expanding it (they won't, they're mostly bought too)
3. Trump broke the Iran deal for no good reason, meaning we lose everything we gave up in the original deal for absolutely no payoff now
4. Trump sent Jared Kushner to negotiate peace in the ME, even though he's literally an investor in West Bank settlements. This is probably the most braindead foreign policy move of the last decade.
5. Taxes on the rich need to go up. It's not just about tax-and-spend stuff. There's a lot of negative impacts on the economy due to inequality. You seen house prices? Low taxes on the rich means they have more money to spend snapping up houses as investment properties, pushing the prices up and pricing out people who actually need somewhere to live. Democrats said they would raise taxes on the rich (although their promised increases would still have tax rates extremely low compared to historical rates).

Democrats suck. I'm a registered Republican. I was raised conservative. I've seen the Republican party turn into maybe the most evil organization on the earth. I wish we had a parliament with proportional representation, so other parties had a chance.

[bladefd]

Can any of you slimeball Liberals explain why you voted for Biden over Trump? Biden, a man who has been in office for nearly 50 years and has accomplished nothing. A man, who has insulted Blacks for his whole life. A man, who embraced a former Klan member.

Seriously, just fess up. You voted for Biden cause you were tired of being insulted by Trump's mean tweets. Frankly, that's the only answer I'm willing to accept. Cause voting for Biden for any other reason makes no sense at all.

"Why no Trump??? WHY WHY OH WHY??????"
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[Patrick Chewing]

"Why no Trump??? WHY WHY OH WHY??????"
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6a8eb1bd3613e37375187fe40531a1be/tenor.gif

You vote for whoever CNN tells you to vote for.

[bladefd]

The Republican party didn't even release a platform for the 2020 election. I voted based on what the political parties said they were going to do when they were in office. How the hell could I justify voting for a political party that had literally no plans other than "Do whatever this methed up reality show host says on any given day"? Caring this much about the individual politician's personalities is very dumb.

I voted for democrats this election because:
1. I was tired of the Trump folks doing low-level mafia type grifts using the federal government. Kushner literally stole PPE from states and sold it out the back door.
2. Republicans want to get rid of the ACA. Democrats at least paid lip service to expanding it (they won't, they're mostly bought too)
3. Trump broke the Iran deal for no good reason, meaning we lose everything we gave up in the original deal for absolutely no payoff now
4. Trump sent Jared Kushner to negotiate peace in the ME, even though he's literally an investor in West Bank settlements. This is probably the most braindead foreign policy move of the last decade.
5. Taxes on the rich need to go up. It's not just about tax-and-spend stuff. There's a lot of negative impacts on the economy due to inequality. You seen house prices? Low taxes on the rich means they have more money to spend snapping up houses as investment properties, pushing the prices up and pricing out people who actually need somewhere to live. Democrats said they would raise taxes on the rich (although their promised increases would still have tax rates extremely low compared to historical rates).

Democrats suck. I'm a registered Republican. I was raised conservative. I've seen the Republican party turn into maybe the most evil organization on the earth. I wish we had a parliament with proportional representation, so other parties had a chance.

You make good points.

There was no stability in the White House last 4yrs either. It was a revolving door. Anyone who didn't constantly suck up to the guy in the White House didn't last long.

There was also no mental stability or maturity in the very guy in charge of the white house. He was always raging at every little thing. There was no adult in the room asking for prudence. It was also a constant scandal on top of scandal. Why? Because it was being run like a reality show to create excitement & increase tv ratings through entertainment than to actually govern.

[bladefd]

You vote for whoever CNN tells you to vote for.

I don't really watch CNN. Flipped to it twice this year - January 6 and January 20th. I did watch the presidential address to joint houses of congress (didn't watch post-coverage because I was watching nba) so 3 times I flipped to cnn in 5 months. I watched msnbc even less - probably just on January 6 and might have watched a few short segments on January 20. I don't watch any other tv news channel.

Last year I watched CNN maybe 5 times at most. Oh, I was watching it regularly last March/April when covid was big news. But that lasted a month before I got sick of hearing about covid.

[Mr. Woke]

People like Fatrick have strong fascist tendencies and need a strongman to tell them how to think/act.

Those types of people are pathetic and very impressionable. They would literally betray America's principles, just to bow down to a wannabe authoritarian who doesn't care about any of them.

[Patrick Chewing]

People like Fatrick have strong fascist tendencies and need a strongman to tell them how to think/act.

Those types of people are pathetic and very impressionable. They would literally betray America's principles, just to bow down to a wannabe authoritarian who doesn't care about any of them.

Hi RRR3. What a dead giveaway with all that "fascist" talk.

[ralph_i_el]

You make good points.

There was no stability in the White House last 4yrs either. It was a revolving door. Anyone who didn't constantly suck up to the guy in the White House didn't last long.

There was also no mental stability or maturity in the very guy in charge of the white house. He was always raging at every little thing. There was no adult in the room asking for prudence. It was also a constant scandal on top of scandal. Why? Because it was being run like a reality show to create excitement & increase tv ratings through entertainment than to actually govern.

Yeah. Sadly, I think the crew of Ivy League Lizards running the show for Biden's sleepy ass are doing a much better job than the multi-level marketing psychos that ran things under the last guy.

[ralph_i_el]

I don't really watch CNN. Flipped to it twice this year - January 6 and January 20th. I did watch the presidential address to joint houses of congress (didn't watch post-coverage because I was watching nba) so 3 times I flipped to cnn in 5 months. I watched msnbc even less - probably just on January 6 and might have watched a few short segments on January 20. I don't watch any other tv news channel.

Last year I watched CNN maybe 5 times at most. Oh, I was watching it regularly last March/April when covid was big news. But that lasted a month before I got sick of hearing about covid.

Yeah, the only time I watched CNN in the last few years was 1/6. Had to find a stream, I don't even have cable anymore. I have a borrowed login to watch the Wizards and TNT and that's it. I went back to reading my news the old fashion way.

[ralph_i_el]

Hi RRR3. What a dead giveaway with all that "fascist" talk.

Why didn't Trump pardon any of his fans from the Captiol? Does Trump like Kodak Black more than he does hardworking, conservative Americans like yourself?

[bladefd]

Why didn't Trump pardon any of his fans from the Captiol? Does Trump like Kodak Black more than he does hardworking, conservative Americans like yourself?

Some Republican idiots in Congress said the January 6 mess was just normal tourists visiting the Capitol Hill :oldlol:

It's laughable that so many of the clowns won't even admit that January 6 was an attempt to overthrow Congress & lynch the VP/Pelosi/leaders of Congress who didn't suck up to lil Donny.

[diamenz]

Yeah, the only time I watched CNN in the last few years was 1/6. Had to find a stream, I don't even have cable anymore. I have a borrowed login to watch the Wizards and TNT and that's it. I went back to reading my news the old fashion way.

it's really all the msm is good for - live action news. they have the equipment and the manpower spread across the country for it.

when it comes to discussing the actual issues though, in an honest and intellectual manner, it's all bullshit and it's bad for ya.

[DoctorP]

People like Fatrick have strong fascist tendencies and need a strongman to tell them how to think/act.

Those types of people are pathetic and very impressionable. They would literally betray America's principles, just to bow down to a wannabe authoritarian who doesn't care about any of them.

stop duping you fing loser. its why i have little respect for you other than being a simpleton.

a dup and a troll. fail in life

[Mr. Woke]

stop duping you fing loser. its why i have little respect for you other than being a simpleton.

a dup and a troll. fail in life

Hey Fatrick, stay triggered boy.

You are a failure of the human existence.

[DoctorP]

Hey Fatrick, stay triggered boy.

You are a failure of the human existence.

if you think im fatrick you are as stupid as you look, RRR3

[Patrick Chewing]

if you think im fatrick you are as stupid as you look, RRR3

:banana:

[DoctorP]

:banana:

oh look the little monkey is happy :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

oh look the little monkey is happy :lol

Reported. Monkey is a racist term.

[Cleverness]

I'm still here.

Not a single governor stood up to Trump's War on Coronavirus-19 / his National Emergency. Hell, IDK if any of them even stood up to his Operation Warp Speed, albeit less of an issue.

That right there is pretty strong evidence they're all crooked in my book.