Blazers at Jazz

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell and Conley out.

[Xiao Yao You]

great start. Clarkson in to get the Blazers back in it though

[Xiao Yao You]

bad D in 2nd.

[RRR3]

It’s absolutely in the Jazz’s best interest to win this game for playoff seeding. Really weird lineup for the Jazz...Ingles at PG?

[Xiao Yao You]

It’s absolutely in the Jazz’s best interest to win this game for playoff seeding. Really weird lineup for the Jazz...Ingles at PG?

Ingles is their backup pg. Who else would be there? Clarkson?

[RRR3]

Ingles is their backup pg. Who else would be there? Clarkson?
Idk that Forrest guy I guess. Seems like you’d need to someone to help slow down their guards.

[Xiao Yao You]

Idk that Forrest guy I guess. Seems like you’d need to someone to help slow down their guards.

Ingles, O'Neale, Forrest and Oni. Could play Brantley but he won't

[HBK_Kliq_2]

8-6 since Mitchell left and won against kings and rockets

The only win over a good team they had was against Denver because Bogi scored 50 points.

They need Mitchell

[RRR3]

8-6 since Mitchell left and won against kings and rockets

The only win over a good team they had was against Denver because Bogi scored 50 points.

They need Mitchell
No shit. Most teams need their best offensive players (Mitchell and Conley in this case)

[Xiao Yao You]

8-6 since Mitchell left and won against kings and rockets

The only win over a good team they had was against Denver because Bogi scored 50 points.

They need Mitchell

20-6 without Mitchell and/or Conley. They certainly miss their 2nd best player Conley

[RRR3]

Jazz offense is really bad rn.

[Xiao Yao You]

too much Bojan, Forrest and COTY

[HBK_Kliq_2]

No shit. Most teams need their best offensive players (Mitchell and Conley in this case)

It's like the spurs if you take away Parker\Manu from 2005-2011. Lottery team.

[RRR3]

It's like the spurs if you take away Parker\Manu from 2005-2011. Lottery team.
Yeah no. Prime Duncan isn’t leading a lottery team. Maybe in those years he was past his prime but certainly not from 05-07.

[Proctor]

Jazz continue to look like a lottery team without Mitchell.

Defensive players don't put the ball in the basket.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Yeah no. Prime Duncan isn’t leading a lottery team. Maybe in those years he was past his prime but certainly not from 05-07.

He was terrible in the 2005 playoffs on both ends and terrible defensively in 2006 playoffs. 2008-2011 he was embarrassing. 2004 he sucked in playoffs as well. Duncan is no better then Gobert, they both can anchor your teams in a reg season but playoffs they struggle. Duncan's post ups has never led to elite offense, it was always because Manu.

Duncan is pretty much Gobert with a backboard shot. Just hyped up because he was a #1 pick

[RRR3]

He was terrible in the 2005 playoffs on both ends and terrible defensively in 2006 playoffs. 2008-2011 he was embarrassing. 2004 he sucked in playoffs as well. Duncan is no better then Gobert, they both can anchor your teams in a reg season but playoffs they struggle. Duncan's post ups has never led to elite offense, it was always because Manu.

Duncan is pretty much Gobert with a backboard shot. Just hyped up because he was a #1 pick
Permaban time.


Proc, get this idiot.

[Xiao Yao You]

Good D except in the 2nd. Rich man's Rubio spotting up in the corner and 34 minutes of Bojan crap too much too overcome

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Permaban time.


Proc, get this idiot.

He won a ring in 1999 when he had to play Allan Houston
Then he won a ring in 2003 when Dirk got hurt and Kobe was raping people

The rest of his career he was 3rd or 4th wheel to Parker\Manu\Kawhi.

I don't see how Gobert couldn't have similar success if you give him Parker\Manu\Kawhi\Robinson.

[Xiao Yao You]

Jazz continue to look like a lottery team without Mitchell.

Defensive players don't put the ball in the basket.

20-7 without Conley/Mitchell. :facepalm

[Axe]

With this loss, i'm not confident enough about this team contending for a title if they're lacking both conley and mitchell. :ohwell:

[hold this L]

When's Conley back?

[Xiao Yao You]

With this loss, i'm not confident enough about this team contending for a title if they're lacking both conley and mitchell. :ohwell:

need Conley for sure

[ArbitraryWater]

Suns really could have long snagged up #1 by now.

That Warriors loss could hurt them big.

That match singlehandedly could be the reason from not playing the Grizzlies but instead the Lakers...

[Manny98]

Another game screaming for Rudy to take over down the stretch and he disappoints :oldlol:

[DABIGSALSISHA]

need Conley for sure

When are Conley and Mitchell expected to comeback?

[Xiao Yao You]

Another game screaming for Rudy to take over down the stretch and he disappoints :oldlol:

held a high powered offense to 105 points. 15 pts 6-8 20 rbds 5 off 2 ass 1 stl 1 blk. He did his part and than some :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

When are Conley and Mitchell expected to comeback?

Mitchell is out the rest of the regular season. They hope Conley will be back in the next two I believe. But as usual who knows. Only Mitchell matters!

[Axe]

Mitchell is out the rest of the regular season. They hope Conley will be back in the next two I believe. But as usual who knows. Only Mitchell matters!
If i were a jazz fan, i'd miss him so badly.

[Manny98]

held a high powered offense to 105 points. 15 pts 6-8 20 rbds 5 off 2 ass 1 stl 1 blk. He did his part and than some :facepalm

He's the "offensive catalyst" yet can't get his team over 100 points against one of the worst defenses in the league

Mitchell come back soon!

[Xiao Yao You]

If i were a jazz fan, i'd miss him so badly.

better defense and better ball movement. Much better brand of basketball. Miss Conley for sure

[Xiao Yao You]

He's the "offensive catalyst" yet can't get his team over 100 points against one of the worst defenses in the league

Mitchell come back soon!

Blazers have been playing D lately with a healthy team. 34 minutes of Bojan and 20 of rich man's Rubio was too much to overcome

[ArbitraryWater]

better defense and better ball movement. Much better brand of basketball. Miss Conley for sure

so why have they fallen off a cliff?

[Xiao Yao You]

so why have they fallen off a cliff?

20-7 without Mitchell and/or Conley is a 60 win team :cheers:

[Manny98]

20-7 without Mitchell and/or Conley is a 60 win team :cheers:

6-4 in their last 10

Can't seem to beat the top teams without Donavon

They can only beat lottery teams like the Bulls

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7 without Mitchell and/or Conley is a 60 win team :cheers:


Uhm, they're a mere 8-6 since Mitchell's injury....

[Axe]

better defense and better ball movement. Much better brand of basketball. Miss Conley for sure
More help is merrier imho

[Xiao Yao You]

6-4 in their last 10

Can't seem to beat the top teams without Donavon

They can only beat lottery teams like the Bulls

Beat the Nuggets and they've been without their 2nd best player Conley

[Xiao Yao You]

More help is merrier imho

worse defense and less ball movement isn't more help though. It's just like last year when they assumed they would have won with Bojan. Defense was their problem not offense. Bojan doesn't help defense he hurts it

[Axe]

worse defense and less ball movement isn't more help though. It's just like last year when they assumed they would have won with Bojan. Defense was their problem not offense. Bojan doesn't help defense he hurts it
But their team record speaks for themselves though i'm not quite sure how they'll end up in the postseason later esp. with mitchell missing.

[Xiao Yao You]

But their team record speaks for themselves though i'm not quite sure how they'll end up in the postseason later.

20-7. One of the best teams in the league

[tpols]

Well well well.... Looks like D-Mitch was the real MVP of the Jazz after all. Smh... Rudy tooty's pastry puff soft, wine and cheese eating ass is getting exposed every other day now.

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7. One of the best teams in the league

tey're 8-6 since he has gone down.

stop creating stats

[Chuckbe]

Beat the Nuggets and they've been without their 2nd best player Conley

Barely with the Nuggets missing half their players.

[Xiao Yao You]

Well well well.... Looks like D-Mitch was the real MVP of the Jazz after all. Smh... Rudy tooty's pastry puff soft, wine and cheese eating ass is getting exposed every other day now.

20-7 :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

tey're 8-6 since he has gone down.

stop creating stats

just facts

[Xiao Yao You]

Barely with the Nuggets missing half their players.

They had Jokic. They've been winning most of their games since Murray went down, Jazz without their 2nd best player Conley

[tpols]

20-7 :facepalm

I'm sorry bro... but 26/5/5 on 57TS and 115 ORTG? That's All Star volume on better efficiency than Michael Jordan. This isn't some Westbrook or Iverson 49TS bullshit... Mitchell is putting up great production. Its hilarious to watch you shit on him, when Rudy looks helpless to carry the offense in his void. The guy has incredible defensive impact but were seeing time and time again he has zero takeover ability scoring or passing. He's like a souped up Tyson Chandler.

[hold this L]

57% is below average, in no way is that all star unless it's someone like Westbrick who will get you double double in assist and rebounds. He offers a ton of value, Mitchell is a nice high volume chucker just like the wannabe 6MOTY on their team.

[tpols]

57% is below average, in no way is that all star unless it's someone like Westbrick who will get you double double in assist and rebounds. He offers a ton of value, Mitchell is a nice high volume chucker just like the wannabe 6MOTY on their team.

115 ORTG is not even close to below average. Its way above average. Westbrook shoots on 50 TS so if 57 isn't good (which is a lie) than what does that make a flat 50?

There's never in the history of basketball been a player to produce on Mitchell's efficiency, that was considered a chucker. If so I'd really like you to point a single name out that did.

[RRR3]

57% is below average, in no way is that all star unless it's someone like Westbrick who will get you double double in assist and rebounds. He offers a ton of value, Mitchell is a nice high volume chucker just like the wannabe 6MOTY on their team.
League average is 57.2% :rolleyes:
It was 56.5% last year probably will dip once there’s big crowds again.

The fact that we’re considering prime MJ efficiency bad now is proof Silver has completely banned perimeter defense :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

I'm sorry bro... but 26/5/5 on 57TS and 115 ORTG? That's All Star volume on better efficiency than Michael Jordan. This isn't some Westbrook or Iverson 49TS bullshit... Mitchell is putting up great production. Its hilarious to watch you shit on him, when Rudy looks helpless to carry the offense in his void. The guy has incredible defensive impact but were seeing time and time again he has zero takeover ability scoring or passing. He's like a souped up Tyson Chandler.

MJ played both ends and was always the best player on his team. Rudy has carried a team without his 2nd best player Conley and Mitchell to 20-7.

[ArbitraryWater]

just facts

whats facts is 8-6

[Xiao Yao You]

57% is below average, in no way is that all star unless it's someone like Westbrick who will get you double double in assist and rebounds. He offers a ton of value, Mitchell is a nice high volume chucker just like the wannabe 6MOTY on their team.

yep. He's a rich man's Clarkson with potential for more

[Xiao Yao You]

whats facts is 8-6

20-7 is

[ArbitraryWater]

57% is below average, in no way is that all star unless it's someone like Westbrick who will get you double double in assist and rebounds. He offers a ton of value, Mitchell is a nice high volume chucker just like the wannabe 6MOTY on their team.


He's also their scoring engine though.

This team has fallen off to 8-6 since his injury

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7 is

Clearly that number has less precedent than 8-6 since youre combining several years here, completely irrelevant to this team.

[Xiao Yao You]

He's also their scoring engine though.

This team has fallen off to 8-6 since his injury

They do miss Conley. One of the best players in the league this year

[Xiao Yao You]

Clearly that number has less precedent than 8-6 since youre combining several years here, completely irrelevant to this team.

20-7 is this year.

[tpols]

20-7 is

115 ORTG mate. Makes you weep. This isn't Rubio doing it on half volume and 105 efficiency. Its amazing how you find a scapegoat every year no matter what happens. You could have Steph curry on your team dropping the same numbers, and say he sucks because his defense isn't great or he shoots too much.

[RRR3]

115 ORTG mate. Makes you weep. This isn't Rubio doing it on half volume and 105 efficiency. Its amazing how you find a scapegoat every year no matter what happens. You could have Steph curry on your team dropping the same numbers, and say he sucks because his defense isn't great or he shoots too much.
Mitchell literally played like 2016 god mode Steph in the first round last year and he blamed him for the loss, so I’d say yes he would def blame Steph.

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7 is this year.

False.

8-6 since Mitchell injury

[Xiao Yao You]

False.

8-6 since Mitchell injury

20-7 on the year without Mitchell and/or Conley. 0-1 without Gobert. Same old story in Utah

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7 on the year without Mitchell and/or Conley. 0-1 without Gobert. Same old story in Utah

This is about Mitchell, bub.

He's only missed 17 games this season.

And they're 8-6 since he was out for a prolonged stretch.

Sorry

[Xiao Yao You]

This is about Mitchell, bub.

He's only missed 17 games this season.

And they're 8-6 since he was out for a prolonged stretch.

Sorry

only 17? 20-7 without Conley and/or Mitchell. Impressive! :bowdown:

[Manny98]

8-6 without Mitchell, Yikes :oldlol:

I thought he makes Utah worse Xiao?

[ArbitraryWater]

only 17? 20-7 without Conley and/or Mitchell. Impressive! :bowdown:

you know whats not impressive?

8-6 since Mitchell is gone

[Xiao Yao You]

8-6 without Mitchell, Yikes :oldlol:

I thought he makes Utah worse Xiao?

You ever heard of Mike Conley Manny?

[Xiao Yao You]

you know whats not impressive?

8-6 since Mitchell is gone

supposedly their best player player and a superstar so yeah it would be impressive if you believe that crap

[RRR3]

Xiao not being able to admit Mitchell is a great player is just so old.

[Xiao Yao You]

Xiao not being able to admit Mitchell is a great player is just so old.

great talent and great player are different things. If someday he decides defense and passing matters he'll get his due. Gobert was a project at 27 and turned himself into a great player in a year and a half. Mitchell has yet to figure it out

[RRR3]

great talent and great player are different things. If someday he decides defense and passing matters he'll get his due. Gobert was a project at 27 and turned himself into a great player in a year and a half. Mitchell has yet to figure it out
He’s figured it out, you just can’t admit it cuz you’re jealous he gets more attention than your loverboy.

[Manny98]

great talent and great player are different things. If someday he decides defense and passing matters he'll get his due. Gobert was a project at 27 and turned himself into a great player in a year and a half. Mitchell has yet to figure it out

When will Rudy decide that guarding Jokic matters?

[RRR3]

When will Rudy decide that guarding Jokic matters?
:roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

When will Rudy decide that guarding Jokic matters?

:roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

He’s figured it out, you just can’t admit it cuz you’re jealous he gets more attention than your loverboy.

He's figured out how to play 1 on 5 ineffectively while not putting any effort at the other end

[Xiao Yao You]

When will Rudy decide that guarding Jokic matters?

pretty much even in their matchups

[RRR3]

Xiao is a troll and should be treated like 3ball. He is not interested in an actual debate (he will ignore posts that contradict his arguments) he is just here to give a virtual blowjob to Rudy.

[ArbitraryWater]

Xiao is a troll and should be treated like 3ball. He is not interested in an actual debate (he will ignore posts that contradict his arguments) he is just here to give a virtual blowjob to Rudy.

He's gone mad, for sure.

Full blown troll

[Xiao Yao You]

Xiao is a troll and should be treated like 3ball. He is not interested in an actual debate (he will ignore posts that contradict his arguments) he is just here to give a virtual blowjob to Rudy.

I have a life. I can't respond to every post you and Manny make. I shouldn't respond to you trolls at all. A troll calling someone else a troll :roll:

[Xiao Yao You]

He's gone mad, for sure.

Full blown troll

what is mad? You hate facts as much as Manny and RR3? 20-7 without Conley and/or Mitchell.

[ArbitraryWater]

what is mad? You hate facts as much as Manny and RR3? 20-7 without Conley and/or Mitchell.

You are trolling.

The topic is about Mitchell's value to the Jazz.

This season, they are 11-6 without Mitchell, and 8-6 since his injury. The 8-6 is meaningful here since it shows how the team does over a prolonged period of time without him, not just 1 game where you have more energy and know he will be back.

Your 20-7 is a fabricated stat.

[RRR3]

I have a life. I can't respond to every post you and Manny make. I shouldn't respond to you trolls at all. A troll calling someone else a troll :roll:
I only troll people who say ridiculous things.

[Xiao Yao You]

You are trolling.

The topic is about Mitchell's value to the Jazz.

This season, they are 11-6 without Mitchell, and 8-6 since his injury. The 8-6 is meaningful here since it shows how the team does over a prolonged period of time without him, not just 1 game where you have more energy and know he will be back.

Your 20-7 is a fabricated stat.

20-7 is a fact. Your 8-6 is without their 2nd best player Conley. Obviously he is missed as their 2nd best defender and best playmaker

[Xiao Yao You]

I only troll people who say ridiculous things.

Gobert is one of the best players in the league. Keep trolling

[RRR3]

Gobert is one of the best players in the league. Keep trolling
Sure, but that’s not the only thing you say. If it was I wouldn’t troll you.

[Xiao Yao You]

Sure, but that’s not the only thing you say. If it was I wouldn’t troll you.

sure you would. It's what trolls do. Get a life! :facepalm

[RRR3]

sure you would. It's what trolls do. Get a life! :facepalm
I’ve never disagreed with Gobert being a great player. I’ve seen you call him a great player for years and I never started trolling you until you started saying stuff like he’s better than Embiid, elite on offense and comparable to Bill Russell. Yes I’m aware you’re about to screech “I didn’t say that stuff stop putting words in my mouth”, but I don’t care. You at BEST “only” implied that stuff, so spare me with the technicalities, troll.

[Xiao Yao You]

I’ve never disagreed with Gobert being a great player. I’ve seen you call him a great player for years and I never started trolling you until you started saying stuff like he’s better than Embiid, elite on offense and comparable to Bill Russell. Yes I’m aware you’re about to screech “I didn’t say that stuff stop putting words in my mouth”, but I don’t care. You at BEST “only” implied that stuff, so spare me with the technicalities, troll.

there you go making shit up again. Said I'd rather have him than a China doll. Catalyst on offense. Elite screener, rim runner and offensive rebounder. Said I watched Cousy's last game and it wasn't hard to imagine Gobert setting screens and scaring the Lakers from the paint like Russell did or Russell rim running on the Jazz instead of throwing up ugly hook shots. Not the same. Words mean things. You having poor reading comprehension not the same as me implying stuff

[tpols]

Xiao is a troll and should be treated like 3ball. He is not interested in an actual debate (he will ignore posts that contradict his arguments) he is just here to give a virtual blowjob to Rudy.

Hes right about Rubio and Clarkson, but his Mitchell hate is weird. 115 ORTG is higher than Wade or Kobe. 57 TS is better than MJ. Im not saying he's on their level but if a guy is that efficient how can you hate? Especially when Rudy can't generate any offense himself. Youd think he'd be grateful to finally have a star offensive weapon but nah.... Hed ather watch Bojan and Joe ingles lead the offense. Its bizarre.

Every year in the playoffs the jazz lose because they have an anemic offense. Rudy still can't even beat guys with a simple 1-2 dribble hook shot. Even I can do that smh.

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7 is a fact. Your 8-6 is without their 2nd best player Conley. Obviously he is missed as their 2nd best defender and best playmaker

20-7 has nothing to do with Mitchell.

The topic is about Mitchell you bum nikka :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Hes right about Rubio and Clarkson, but his Mitchell hate is weird. 115 ORTG is higher than Wade or Kobe. 57 TS is better than MJ. Im not saying he's on their level but if a guy is that efficient how can you hate? Especially when Rudy can't generate any offense himself. Youd think he'd be grateful to finally have a star offensive weapon but nah.... Hed ather watch Bojan and Joe ingles lead the offense. Its bizarre.

Every year in the playoffs the jazz lose because they have an anemic offense. Rudy still can't even beat guys with a simple 1-2 dribble hook shot. Even I can do that smh.

I'm no Kobe fan but those guys played some D. I like passing and D. I don't want Bojan on the team either. Ingles and Conley should be running the offense without a doubt. They are playmakers not gunners. They lost twice because of anemic offense and Mitchell was a big part of that. Why would Rudy try to beat someone with a hook shot when he can dunk it instead?

[Xiao Yao You]

20-7 has nothing to do with Mitchell.

The topic is about Mitchell you bum nikka :oldlol:

20-7 without Mitchell and/or Conley has nothing to do with Mitchell?

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7 without Mitchell and/or Conley has nothing to do with Mitchell?

Dude, he has only missed 17 games.

Have you gone insane?

You're trying to say the Jazz are well off without Mitchell by including games he has played...

Have you fully lost it?

[Xiao Yao You]

Dude, he has only missed 17 games.

Have you gone insane?

You're trying to say the Jazz are well off without Mitchell by including games he has played...

Have you fully lost it?

20-7 without 1 or both of their starting guards.

[tpols]

I'm no Kobe fan but those guys played some D. I like passing and D. I don't want Bojan on the team either. Ingles and Conley should be running the offense without a doubt. They are playmakers not gunners. They lost twice because of anemic offense and Mitchell was a big part of that. Why would Rudy try to beat someone with a hook shot when he can dunk it instead?

If you guys got rid of Mitchell, and let Conley and ingles run the show guess what? You'd still get waxed by LeBron and AD, or Kawhi and Paul George, or Kevin Durant, James Harden, and Kyrie. Chris Paul, Ayton and Devin Booker might do you in. You have an infatuation with defense and passing but neglect superstar takeover ability. Which is a joke considering your favorite player ever is like Clint capela in that department, and you NEED somebody to step up in that regard for you to ever win.

[Xiao Yao You]

If you guys got rid of Mitchell, and let Conley and singles run the show guess what? You'd still get waxed by LeBron and AD, or Kawhi and Paul George, or Kevin's Durant, James Harden, and Kyrie. Chris Paul, Dayton and Devin Booker might do you in. You have an infatuation with defense and passing but neglect superstar takeover ability. Which is a joke considering your favorite player ever is like Clint capela in that department, and you NEED somebody to step up in that regard for you to ever win.

If they get rid of Mitchell they are getting assets in return. Maybe even a PF who would allow them to match up better with the Lakers. Nets play no D. No one is worried about them. I don't neglect superstar takeover ability. Mitchell isn't a superstar though. Jazz have been winning since Gobert emerged more than 6 years ago despite a franchise that has done everything to prevent it

[ArbitraryWater]

20-7 without 1 or both of their starting guards.

What a fukking world you have shaped for yourself.

Creating an undefined stat :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

What a fukking world you have shaped for yourself.

Creating an undefined stat :oldlol:

I didn't create it. Just sharing a useful fact with ya'll

[RRR3]

Xiao still trolling I see

[Xiao Yao You]

Xiao still trolling I see

facts are facts

[RRR3]

facts are facts
You don’t post facts tho.

[Xiao Yao You]

You don’t post facts tho.

21-7 is a fact

[RRR3]

I am a troll
We know.

[Xiao Yao You]

We know.

making shit up as usual

[RRR3]

making shit up as usual
Trolling as usual.

[Xiao Yao You]

Trolling as usual.

all you know apparently

[ArbitraryWater]

I didn't create it. Just sharing a useful fact with ya'll

here's something even more useful. 8-6 without Mitchell :(

[Xiao Yao You]

here's something even more useful. 8-6 without Mitchell :(

21-7 without Conley and/Mitchell! :applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

21-7 without Conley and/Mitchell! :applause:

Thats actually a lie.

You left out the "or" to make the stat sound more relevant

[Xiao Yao You]

Thats actually a lie.

You left out the "or" to make the stat sound more relevant

and/or