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coastalmarker99
05-13-2021, 09:38 AM
It should be noted by fans and media that if you take Wilt out of the equation there have only been 30 to 40 games of 60+ points in Nba history as (Wilt had 32 by himself.) Or only 28 30-30 games (Chamberlain had 103 on his own.) Or only six 40-30 games (Chamberlain had 55.)

And If you take Wilt and his four highest-scoring seasons out from Nba history then MJ's 37.1 ppg would be the all-time record, and James Harden who plays today would be next at 36.1 ppg along with Rick Barry at 35.6 ppg then Kobe at 35.4 ppg.

BTW, Kareem's 34.8 ppg in '72 (also in the Chamberlain-era), is 10th all-time, and Baylor's 60-61 season of 34.8 ppg is 11th. So, strike Chamberlain from the record book, and the numbers are far more normal across all eras.

So it must be asked...why was it Chamberlain who was the only player in Nba history putting up those staggering scoring, rebounding, FG%'s, seasons.

Bronbron23
05-13-2021, 09:40 AM
It should be noted by fans and media that if you take Wilt out of the equation there have only been 30 to 40 games of 60+ points in Nba history as (Wilt had 32 by himself.) Or only 28 30-30 games (Chamberlain had 103 on his own.) Or only six 40-30 games (Chamberlain had 55.)

And If you take Wilt and his four highest-scoring seasons out from Nba history then MJ's 37.1 ppg would be the all-time record, and James Harden who plays today would be next at 36.1 ppg along with Rick Barry at 35.6 ppg then Kobe at 35.4 ppg.

BTW, Kareem's 34.8 ppg in '72 (also in the Chamberlain-era), is 10th all-time, and Baylor's 60-61 season of 34.8 ppg is 11th. So, strike Chamberlain from the record book, and the numbers are far more normal across all eras.

So it must be asked...why was it Chamberlain who was the only player in Nba history putting up those staggering scoring, rebounding, FG%'s, seasons.

Maybe because he's the greatest athlete the game has ever seen:confusedshrug:

coastalmarker99
05-13-2021, 09:42 AM
Maybe because he's the greatest athlete the game has ever seen:confusedshrug:


Indeed he was the greatest athlete the game has ever seen

As there have been 131 30-30 games in NBA history. The entire NBA combined, in its entire history, has 28. Wilt had 103. By the way, Kareem played four seasons in the same NBA with Wilt. Late in Wilt's career, in his 71-72, Chamberlain hung two 30-30 games (including a 31-32 game against 6-11 HOFer Bob Lanier.) This is interesting, because Kareem played 20 seasons, and only had one 30-30 game in his entire career.

How about 40-30 games? The entire NBA, in its entire history, has six...combined. How about Wilt? 55 (and 17 just against Russell alone.)

How about 50-30 games? Wilt had 22 (as well as 50-35 game against Russell in the '60 ECF's)...the rest of the ENTIRE NBA, 2...combined!

60-30 games? The rest of the NBA...two...combined. Wilt? seven by himself.

40-40 games? Wilt with eight (including a 44-42 game against Russell)...and the rest of the NBA? zero.

50-40 games? Chamberlain with FOUR...and you guessed it, the rest of the NBA...zero.

How about 50 point games? Wilt with 122, and his nearest competitor, MJ, with 39.

How about 60+ point games. The rest of the NBA, in its entire history...30. Wilt? 32 (including three of the four highest FG%'s games...and the highest game of 29-35 or .829.) And he also had a 62 point game against Russell, and on 27-45 shooting. And he had three 60+ point games just against 6-11 HOFer Walt Bellamy.

How about 70+ point games. The rest of the NBA, combined...four. Chamberlain? six, including a 73-36 game against HOFer Bellamy.

40+ rebound games? Chamberlain with 15...the rest of the NBA combined... 13. Included in those games were a game in which Wilt outrebounded Russell, 55-19, and a playoff game in which he outrebounded Russell, 41-29.

"Perfect games?" Chamberlain has the three highest in NBA history (15-15, 16-16, and 18-18). BTW, Wilt also holds the record of 35 straight made FGAs.

How about a 20-20-20 game? Yep, only Wilt and Russell Westbrook have done it, (22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists.) Hell, Wilt even had a 53 point, 32 rebounds, 14 assist game (and on 24-29 shooting from the field.) He also had a 24-32-13-12 game (on 9-13 shooting) against Russell in the '67 ECF's.

Bronbron23
05-13-2021, 09:50 AM
Indeed he was the greatest athlete the game has ever seen

As there have been 131 30-30 games in NBA history. The entire NBA combined, in its entire history, has 28. Wilt had 103. By the way, Kareem played four seasons in the same NBA with Wilt. Late in Wilt's career, in his 71-72, Chamberlain hung two 30-30 games (including a 31-32 game against 6-11 HOFer Bob Lanier.) This is interesting, because Kareem played 20 seasons, and only had one 30-30 game in his entire career.

How about 40-30 games? The entire NBA, in its entire history, has six...combined. How about Wilt? 55 (and 17 just against Russell alone.)

How about 50-30 games? Wilt had 22 (as well as 50-35 game against Russell in the '60 ECF's)...the rest of the ENTIRE NBA, 2...combined!

60-30 games? The rest of the NBA...two...combined. Wilt? seven by himself.

40-40 games? Wilt with eight (including a 44-42 game against Russell)...and the rest of the NBA? zero.

50-40 games? Chamberlain with FOUR...and you guessed it, the rest of the NBA...zero.

How about 50 point games? Wilt with 122, and his nearest competitor, MJ, with 39.

How about 60+ point games. The rest of the NBA, in its entire history...30. Wilt? 32 (including three of the four highest FG%'s games...and the highest game of 29-35 or .829.) And he also had a 62 point game against Russell, and on 27-45 shooting. And he had three 60+ point games just against 6-11 HOFer Walt Bellamy.

How about 70+ point games. The rest of the NBA, combined...four. Chamberlain? six, including a 73-36 game against HOFer Bellamy.

40+ rebound games? Chamberlain with 15...the rest of the NBA combined... 13. Included in those games were a game in which Wilt outrebounded Russell, 55-19, and a playoff game in which he outrebounded Russell, 41-29.

"Perfect games?" Chamberlain has the three highest in NBA history (15-15, 16-16, and 18-18). BTW, Wilt also holds the record of 35 straight made FGAs.

How about a 20-20-20 game? Yep, only Wilt and Russell Westbrook have done it, (22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists.) Hell, Wilt even had a 53 point, 32 rebounds, 14 assist game (and on 24-29 shooting from the field.) He also had a 24-32-13-12 game (on 9-13 shooting) against Russell in the '67 ECF's.

Yeah dude was crazy. Just imagine a player who is stronger than lebron but is also faster and can jump higher than him. Now make that player 7'2. That just unfair.

Axe
05-13-2021, 09:52 AM
Yeah dude was crazy. Just imagine a player who is stronger than lebron but is also faster and can jump higher than him. Now make that player 7'2. That just unfair.
That's why the league had to impose rule changes, for the sake of neutralizing his exceptional capabilities because he's such a phenomenal specimen who's very well above his peers a long time ago. Still, it didn't stop bill russell from making him look like a big loser in the sixties.

Bronbron23
05-13-2021, 09:57 AM
That's why the league had to impose rule changes, for the sake of neutralizing his exceptional capabilities because he's such a phenomenal specimen who's very well above his peers a long time ago. Still, it didn't stop bill russell from making him look like a big loser in the sixties.

Yeah Russell was a beast also. I always thought of him as a less athletic cerebral player but he was actually athletic as hell also.

Axe
05-13-2021, 09:59 AM
Yeah Russell was a beast also. I always thought of him as a less athletic cerebral player but he was actually athletic as hell also.
His leadership was unrivalled nor unmatched when it completely mattered the most, no matter if his stats looked average or weren't flashy enough most of the time.

Bronbron23
05-13-2021, 10:41 AM
His leadership was unrivalled nor unmatched when it completely mattered the most, no matter if his stats looked average or weren't flashy enough most of the time.

Yeah if sports at the highest level is 70% mental than russell has an argument for goat in my eyes.