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TheCorporation
05-15-2021, 07:37 PM
1985 - No Pippen = MJ got swept in the 1st round.

1986 - Still No Pippen =See above (MJ got swept in the 1st round again).

1984 - Still No Pippen = See above; again. (MJ got swept in the 1st round again, 1-9).


MJ couldn't even get out of the 1st round without both Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen. Pitiful.

So only LeBron had deep runs with low seeds and no help (2007).

And LeBron carried a .500 team in 2011 to 4 straight Finals and 2 championships.

So LeBron carried weaker casts better.

Ultimately, LeBron had nothing when he made the playoffs in a conference that required a super-team to win it, while Jordan had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams routinely won (Drexler Blazers, Magic AIDS Lakers, Barkley Suns).

Bronbron23
05-15-2021, 08:08 PM
1985 - No Pippen = MJ got swept in the 1st round.

1986 - Still No Pippen =See above (MJ got swept in the 1st round again).

1984 - Still No Pippen = See above; again. (MJ got swept in the 1st round again, 1-9).


MJ couldn't even get out of the 1st round without both Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen. Pitiful.

So only LeBron had deep runs with low seeds and no help (2007).

And LeBron carried a .500 team in 2011 to 4 straight Finals and 2 championships.

So LeBron carried weaker casts better.

Ultimately, LeBron had nothing when he made the playoffs in a conference that required a super-team to win it, while Jordan had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams routinely won (Drexler Blazers, Magic AIDS Lakers, Barkley Suns).

Why did he need a good player and coach? What kind of idiotic question is that?

And you do realize that if bron played most of his career in the tougher conference like mj he'd have 6 less deeper runs right. All of those finals loses would have happened a round or 2 earlier.

PeroAntic
05-15-2021, 08:13 PM
Finally, a thread with some originality.




:rolleyes:

3ball
05-15-2021, 08:20 PM
Lebron always had high seeds and teammates with an all-star resume when he made the playoffs or had deep runs, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and no help (89')..

So Lebron needed more help to make the playoffs or have deep runs (high seeds and all-star teammates), and he also needed more to win (super-team or playing 2nd fiddle to AD, and preseason favorite status... :eek:).

Ultimately, the all-star duo of Lebron/Zydrunas had 2 years of seasoning in the lottery before entering the playoffs as a developed, high seed in Year 3, while rookie Jordan was thrown into the playoffs as a 8 seed in Year 1

AirBonner
05-15-2021, 08:51 PM
Lebron always had high seeds and teammates with an all-star resume when he made the playoffs or had deep runs, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and no help (89')..

So Lebron needed more help to make the playoffs or have deep runs (high seeds and all-star teammates), and he also needed more to win (super-team or playing 2nd fiddle to AD, and preseason favorite status... :eek:).

Ultimately, the all-star duo of Lebron/Zydrunas had 2 years of seasoning in the lottery before entering the playoffs as a developed, high seed in Year 3, while rookie Jordan was thrown into the playoffs as a 8 seed in Year 1
You literally ignored the topic and talked about LeBron lolol

TheCorporation
05-15-2021, 08:53 PM
Finally, a thread with some originality.




:rolleyes:

:D

I swear he just brings it on himself :lol It's just too easy to reverse MJ's narratives in a flash.

RRR3
05-15-2021, 08:54 PM
Bronbron23 when 3ball spams LeBron hate: *crickets*


Bronbron23 when real LeBron fans troll 3ball back: ZOMG Stop being mean to my loverboy Mikey! :cry:

8Ball
05-15-2021, 09:02 PM
1985 - No Pippen = MJ got swept in the 1st round.

1986 - Still No Pippen =See above (MJ got swept in the 1st round again).

1984 - Still No Pippen = See above; again. (MJ got swept in the 1st round again, 1-9).


MJ couldn't even get out of the 1st round without both Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen. Pitiful.

So only LeBron had deep runs with low seeds and no help (2007).

And LeBron carried a .500 team in 2011 to 4 straight Finals and 2 championships.

So LeBron carried weaker casts better.

Ultimately, LeBron had nothing when he made the playoffs in a conference that required a super-team to win it, while Jordan had high seeds and decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams routinely won (Drexler Blazers, Magic AIDS Lakers, Barkley Suns).

High IQ thread.

Michael Jordan had 23ppg on 55% scorer Orlando Woolridge in 1985 and got swept.

Don't forget 2002 and 2003 as well.

8Ball
05-15-2021, 09:04 PM
Lebron always had high seeds and teammates with an all-star resume when he made the playoffs or had deep runs, while Jordan had deep runs with low seeds and no help (89')..

So Lebron needed more help to make the playoffs or have deep runs (high seeds and all-star teammates), and he also needed more to win (super-team or playing 2nd fiddle to AD, and preseason favorite status... :eek:).

Ultimately, the all-star duo of Lebron/Zydrunas had 2 years of seasoning in the lottery before entering the playoffs as a developed, high seed in Year 3, while rookie Jordan was thrown into the playoffs as a 8 seed in Year 1

All gibberish above.

Jordan is 1-9 without Pippen.

Michael Jordan had 23ppg on 55% scorer Orlando Woolridge in 1985 and got swept.

8Ball
05-15-2021, 09:05 PM
Why did he need a good player and coach? What kind of idiotic question is that?

And you do realize that if bron played most of his career in the tougher conference like mj he'd have 6 less deeper runs right. All of those finals loses would have happened a round or 2 earlier.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493141-Why-does-Lebron-need-high-seeds-amp-all-star-teammates-to-make-deep-runs

Thoughts?

RRR3
05-15-2021, 09:07 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493141-Why-does-Lebron-need-high-seeds-amp-all-star-teammates-to-make-deep-runs

Thoughts?
Remember he’s a “LeBron fan” though!




:yaohappy:

Axe
05-15-2021, 11:20 PM
Simple, he couldn't win by being a ballhog duh. :rolleyes:

Only when he started playing kong ball he did.

TheCorporation
05-15-2021, 11:33 PM
Simple, he couldn't win by being a ballhog duh. :rolleyes:

Only when he started playing kong ball he did.

:rockon:

KingAxe knows the truth

Spurs m8
05-15-2021, 11:38 PM
Oh look...another thread

Jordan still got these kids shook

You can start 1000 threads...doesn't change his GOAT status.

Your boy will be remembered top 20...you should just relax

TheCorporation
05-15-2021, 11:40 PM
Oh look...another thread

Jordan still got these kids shook

You can start 1000 threads...doesn't change his GOAT status.

Your boy will be remembered top 20...you should just relax

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493141-Why-does-Lebron-need-high-seeds-amp-all-star-teammates-to-make-deep-runs

Thoughts?

TheCorporation
05-15-2021, 11:41 PM
Appreciate the 5*s

TheMan
05-15-2021, 11:43 PM
Idiots like OP are the reason why ISH isn't taken seriously amongst non trolling basketball fans on the internets, and why a lot of us regulars avoid this cesspool which is the NBA Forum..the purge should've permabanned these numb skulls for good.

8Ball
05-15-2021, 11:44 PM
5 starred.

8Ball
05-15-2021, 11:45 PM
Idiots like OP are the reason why ISH isn't taken seriously amongst non trolling basketball fans on the internets, and why a lot of us regularsavoid this cesspool which is the NBA Forum..the purge should've permabanned these numb skulls.

How come you have no comment about this thread below:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493141-Why-does-Lebron-need-high-seeds-amp-all-star-teammates-to-make-deep-runs

kawhileonard2
05-15-2021, 11:51 PM
How come you have no comment about this thread below:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493141-Why-does-Lebron-need-high-seeds-amp-all-star-teammates-to-make-deep-runs

Or here

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?471453-How-did-Lebron-James-lose-to-a-Career-Loser-in-Dwight-Howard-with-HCA-while-having-a/page14

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page9


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head/page4

2much_knowledge
05-16-2021, 06:38 AM
Idiots like OP are the reason why ISH isn't taken seriously amongst non trolling basketball fans on the internets, and why a lot of us regulars avoid this cesspool which is the NBA Forum..the purge should've permabanned these numb skulls for good.

Name me a good forum for intelligent non biased discussions. Please

And1AllDay
05-16-2021, 11:05 AM
Idiots like OP are the reason why ISH isn't taken seriously amongst non trolling basketball fans on the internets, and why a lot of us regulars avoid this cesspool which is the NBA Forum..the purge should've permabanned these numb skulls for good.

damn you good taco?

2much_knowledge
05-16-2021, 11:58 AM
damn you good taco?

He just basically called you an idiot lol