Kobe restored USA glory not Lebron in the Olympics/FIBA

[kawhileonard2]

https://youtu.be/cee4Ujai5S8

As Lebron led America to two bronze medals.

[ShawkFactory]

We’re still on the Lebronze game in May 2021? Nothing else to discuss as the playoffs near?

[AirBonner]

Kobe empowered women to speak out against rape

[tpols]

Kobe really did save them when it counted. Cant lose to ****ing Pau. :oldlol:

[TheCorporation]

Kobe empowered women to speak out against rape

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[kawhileonard2]

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So did America Win bronze medal with Kobe or Lebron? When did Lebron win gold playing with whom?

[ImKobe]

..

Speaking of Olympics and cheating, Lebron was outed during the 2012 Olympics for trying to hook up with one of the swimmers who rejected him. I wouldn't go there.

[Lebron23]

https://youtu.be/cee4Ujai5S8

As Lebron led America to two bronze medals.

Can you please die already??

[kawhileonard2]

Can you please die already??

So did America Win bronze medal with Kobe or Lebron? When did Lebron win gold playing with whom?

[Xiao Yao You]

Wade and Lebron were the best players

[SATAN]

Imagine thinking anyone cares about the Olympics

[Lebron23]

So did America Win bronze medal with Kobe or Lebron? When did Lebron win gold playing with whom?

Duncan and Iverson were the reason the won Bronze in 2004

[tpols]

Wade and Lebron were the best players

Bronze medal together in prior years. Non shooters don't win Olympic gold. Turns out shooting in basketball matters... ask your boy.

[kawhileonard2]

Imagine thinking anyone cares about the Olympics

Except for America which is why Olympics get better ratings than nba

[Stanley Kobrick]

i believe Wade and Lebron were the best players. which was pretty crazy because Wade was coming off some nasty surgeries the season prior and no one thought he'd go that hard. overall probably the best olympic basketball competition to date, europeans had some HOF players. but regardless, USA dampened Spain twice in those couple weeks. i just wish kobe would have showed up just more than 1 quarter in those 8 games, he just stood around and shot 3's and rather poorly for the most part

[Stanley Kobrick]

and I truly believe like most others, that 2008 redeem team would have ran 92 old guys off the floor. coach K had those young bucks in their athletic prime and were nearly all shooting at extremely high % during the tournament. correct me if i'm wrong the only player over 30 was kidd and redd if i'm not mistaken, who barely even saw floor time. i don't even think the 92 competition even had more than 5 nba players participate outside of USA, the league was still very national minded.

[Xiao Yao You]

Bronze medal together in prior years. Non shooters don't win Olympic gold. Turns out shooting in basketball matters... ask your boy.

two rookies added to the end of the roster after others dropped out :facepalm

[mehyaM24]

and I truly believe like most others, that 2008 redeem team would have ran 92 old guys off the floor. coach K had those young bucks in their athletic prime and were nearly all shooting at extremely high % during the tournament. correct me if i'm wrong the only player over 30 was kidd and redd if i'm not mistaken, who barely even saw floor time. i don't even think the 92 competition even had more than 5 nba players participate outside of USA, the league was still very national minded.

dreamteams frontline would annihilate them, however redeem team had better perimeter play so it would be an interesting matchup. kobe had just come off his mvp season and inspired a lot of players that tournament. specifically with defense and preparation. after winning gold, wade & lebron both went on to have, arguably, their most dominant seasons.

[8Ball]

2012 team >>> Dream team.

[Axe]

i just wish kobe would have showed up just more than 1 quarter in those 8 games, he just stood around and shot 3's and rather poorly for the most part
Maybe his age was getting up to him quickly that time.

[DABIGSALSISHA]

Can you please die already??

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[DABIGSALSISHA]

1984 Olympics

The 1984 Summer Olympics was a coming-out party for Michael Jordan, who led the U. S. team in scoring and dazzled the worldwide viewing audience with his athleticism and speed, including during the sweep of the NBA All-Stars before the Olympics.

A ROOKIE LED HIS COUNTRY TO WIN GOLD, TEAM USA WENT 8-0 in the Tournament and M.J. scored a lot of points

"Jordan was the third pick in the NBA draft that summer. A few weeks later, he led the U.S. team to the gold medal"

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So , Jordan Led The USA Team to Gold in the Olympic 2X, Kobe Led the USA team to Gold too. How Come, LeBron James NEVER done that before? Where was your QUEEN during the Olympics ? Having her crown Polished?
Losing to Ginobili and Team Argentina?LOL. HAD CARMELO AND WAY MORE HELP THAN FRESH OFF HIGH SCHOOL JORDAN HAD in 84 lmao. Still , M.J. WON the GOLD! ALPHA MALE.

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[DABIGSALSISHA]

https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/37/2019/08/gettyimages-51233025.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Look at the Guys your beta Goat Lost to! HAHAHAAHAH

[DABIGSALSISHA]

2012 team >>> Dream team.

Where is your GOAT now???

Couldn't lead a LOADED USA TEAM in 04 to GOLD?

Instead, team USA had 3 LOSSES and won Bronze, only lmao.

No, Excuses, I don't wanna hear them anymore. Your Fake King failed, badly.


LOADED TEAM USA 2004: (LeChokeJames / Bronze medal / 3 LOSSES.

Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Dwyane Wade
Carlos Boozer
Carmelo Anthony
LeBron James
Emeka Okafor
Shawn Marion
Amar'e Stoudemire
Tim Duncan
Lamar Odom
Richard Jefferson


TEAM USA 1984:

Steve Alford
Patrick Ewing
Vern Fleming
Michael Jordan
Joe Kleine
Jon Koncak
Chris Mullin
Sam Perkins
Alvin Robertson
Wayman Tisdale
Jeff Turner Forward
Leon Wood

So, Michael Jordan LED a bunch of NOBODIES with a few exceptions to GOLD. 8-0. win.

M.J. GOAT FOREVER.

[Stanley Kobrick]

1984 was played against college boys, basketball outside of America at that time was so taboo back then they were just picking up the tallest guys in their country to play this new sport in the olympics named basketball. Not a single university was giving out scholarships for it, no pro leagues

[Stanley Kobrick]

Maybe his age was getting up to him quickly that time.
he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with the pace they were playing, when wade, cp3/deron and lebron were on the floor it was a rodeo of fastbreaks. people joke about Deron Williams but he was busting ass back then as well. but look how many times kobe still settled for 3's, one could even make a case Carmelo also played better than kobe
https://i.postimg.cc/vB6VGtQ1/Screenshot-2021-05-16-035428.png (https://postimg.cc/sQsXcSGy)

[aj1987]

What the **** kinda moronic thread is this? Wade was about 8916392763 times better in the '08 Olympics than Kobe. It's not even close and it's not even an argument.

[DABIGSALSISHA]

1984 was played against college boys, basketball outside of America at that time was so taboo back then they were just picking up the tallest guys in their country to play this new sport in the olympics named basketball. Not a single university was giving out scholarships for it, no pro leagues

Excuses.

It doesn't matter. That's how it was back then. Each and every country picked their BEST players to represent themselves. They had their own leagues and played their own tournaments. The NBA was also being formed to become a better league.
THE USSR and Eastern European teams had good teams back then already.

The USA didn't even show up with the best of the best and a young Jordan already brought gold home. A high school kid, did that representing his country in his first international competition. Impressive to say the least.

Lebron FAILED in 04 in a mega team. couldn't beat Ginobii and Argentina, Lost to Porto Rico and also to another country, all in the same tournament,
And Lebron had A.I., Duncan, Carmello, Marbury, Wade, etc..... Jordan had NOBODY. Then he won again in 92.

[LAL]

he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with the pace they were playing, when wade, cp3/deron and lebron were on the floor it was a rodeo of fastbreaks. people joke about Deron Williams but he was busting ass back then as well. but look how many times kobe still settled for 3's, one could even make a case Carmelo also played better than kobe
https://i.postimg.cc/vB6VGtQ1/Screenshot-2021-05-16-035428.png (https://postimg.cc/sQsXcSGy)

Stanley can you stfu with your dumbass narrative, Kobe was busting ass on defense, being a true leader, scoring from midrange creating his own shot is different than the easy fast break bully dunks for lebron, wade and others. He set an example by being GREAT defensively and being clutch.. talking about tournament stats like you're doing something. Nobody remembers 2008 Olympics Kobe being one of the worst, fool.

[SouBeachTalents]

he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with the pace they were playing, when wade, cp3/deron and lebron were on the floor it was a rodeo of fastbreaks. people joke about Deron Williams but he was busting ass back then as well. but look how many times kobe still settled for 3's, one could even make a case Carmelo also played better than kobe
https://i.postimg.cc/vB6VGtQ1/Screenshot-2021-05-16-035428.png (https://postimg.cc/sQsXcSGy)
What was up with the FT%? Wade at 63%, Kobe, albeit on a small sample size, at 58%, LeBron at a Shaq like 46% :lol

[DABIGSALSISHA]

Stanley can you stfu with your dumbass narrative, Kobe was busting ass on defense, being a true leader, scoring from midrange creating his own shot is different than the easy fast break bully dunks for lebron, wade and others. He set an example by being GREAT defensively and being clutch.. talking about tournament stats like you're doing something. Nobody remembers 2008 Olympics Kobe being one of the worst, fool.

Exactly, Kobe Led the 2008 Team to Gold! Work was also done off the court by Kobe so the players would embrace the moment and take that seriously. Stanley guy is out of his mind.

[Axe]

he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with the pace they were playing, when wade, cp3/deron and lebron were on the floor it was a rodeo of fastbreaks. people joke about Deron Williams but he was busting ass back then as well. but look how many times kobe still settled for 3's, one could even make a case Carmelo also played better than kobe
https://i.postimg.cc/vB6VGtQ1/Screenshot-2021-05-16-035428.png (https://postimg.cc/sQsXcSGy)
Over 100 shots and over half of them missed, wow. But i guess that is the definition of mamba mentality after all. Never afraid to take shots whether they miss or not. Kinda like a shooting machine, albeit inconsistent. He probably thinks it's much better than doing nothing at all.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Over 100 shots and over half of them missed, wow. But i guess that is the definition of mamba mentality after all. Never afraid to take shots whether they miss or not. Kinda like a shooting machine, albeit inconsistent. He probably thinks it's much better than doing nothing at all.
high iq post. and that wasn't to say kobe played bad, just his teammates played much better and consistently throughout the tournament. just look at the steals between wade, cp3 and lebron. Nearly 60 steals between those 3 in only 8 games. 60%fg, 67%fg - that's insane

I wish we could see some advanced stats to those but oddly since it's FIBA, nba and Hollinger didn't recognize it back then. you can always tell between the fans who watched only the gold game and who watched all the games during that time, it was in Beijing played at 4am-5am USA time. most people didn't bother and only saw snippets. so you get the ESPN talking points like the fellows above are rambling. truth is you could have replaced kobe with anyone on ISH in 2008 Olympics and team USA would have still succeeded. and we know this because 2012, 2016, was even more cake

[LAmbruh]

he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with the pace they were playing, when wade, cp3/deron and lebron were on the floor it was a rodeo of fastbreaks. people joke about Deron Williams but he was busting ass back then as well. but look how many times kobe still settled for 3's, one could even make a case Carmelo also played better than kobe
https://i.postimg.cc/vB6VGtQ1/Screenshot-2021-05-16-035428.png (https://postimg.cc/sQsXcSGy)


same coach, same system, same teammates, vs same competition, same rules, same conditions.

23yo Lebron

-more points
-more rebounds
-more steals
-more blocks
-more assists
-better efficiency


Prime Kobe

-most shots




Sounds about right :applause:

[Axe]

high iq post. and that wasn't to say kobe played bad, just his teammates played much better and consistently throughout the tournament. just look at the steals between wade, cp3 and lebron. Nearly 60 steals between those 3 in only 8 games. 60%fg, 67%fg - that's insane
Yep, most of his teammates posted better numbers parallel or relative to the less shots they took. Sadly, the stat sheet posted doesn't indicate their defensive prowess aside from blocks since i believe he's well above average in that department. Now if kobe and his peers were performance cars, he'd be one with a powerful, naturally aspirated v8 engine that produce respectable outputs because of its large displacement but is a guzzler at the same time whereas his teammates are turbo-powered, low displacement v6 engines that produce almost the same or even higher outputs while being more considerably efficient than the former lol. It's a weird analogy but an interesting one if you have some knowledge about cars.


I wish we could see some advanced stats to those but oddly since it's FIBA, nba and Hollinger didn't recognize it back then. you can always tell between the fans who watched only the gold game and who watched all the games during that time, it was in Beijing played at 4am-5am USA time. most people didn't bother and only saw snippets. so you get the ESPN talking points like the fellows above are rambling. truth is you could have replaced kobe with anyone on ISH in 2008 Olympics and team USA would have still succeeded. and we know this because 2012, 2016, was even more cake
Well team usa often wins them anyway because as usual they have all the talent to exceed the others in the sport most of the time. Heck it's somewhat like an all-star game but they're facing international players instead. Whether kobe is replaced by anyone else or not, they're still op so i don't see op's point in making this thread. The fact that the roster had james, wade and anthony which are all from what's considered the most talented draft year (2003) in league history already speaks for itself.

[miggyme1]

he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with the pace they were playing, when wade, cp3/deron and lebron were on the floor it was a rodeo of fastbreaks. people joke about Deron Williams but he was busting ass back then as well. but look how many times kobe still settled for 3's, one could even make a case Carmelo also played better than kobe
https://i.postimg.cc/vB6VGtQ1/Screenshot-2021-05-16-035428.png (https://postimg.cc/sQsXcSGy)


I cant believe michael redd shot 33 percent from the field,how in the **** did he make the team??? Kobe took 21 more shots than the next person. Lol vintage kobe there for u and 17/53 from 3 is just crazy bad.

[8Ball]

2012 team >>> Dream team.

Well said.

2012 team in 4 games.

[kawhileonard2]

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Look at the Guys your beta Goat Lost to! HAHAHAAHAH

This is why people were calling him Lebronze instead of Lebron because of the medals he was getting.

[tpols]

This is why people were calling him Lebronze instead of Lebron because of the medals he was getting.

Yup... who cares about stats for the whole tournament when we know 90% of teams get blown out. In the highest stakes games, only Kobe could seal the deal. They lose to Spain in 2008 without him. He took over that entire 4th quarter... diming, blocking, 4 point play dagger... Reminds me of Manus 4 point play to seal the USA in 2004.

[scuzzy]

he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with the pace they were playing, when wade, cp3/deron and lebron were on the floor it was a rodeo of fastbreaks. people joke about Deron Williams but he was busting ass back then as well. but look how many times kobe still settled for 3's, one could even make a case Carmelo also played better than kobe
https://i.postimg.cc/vB6VGtQ1/Screenshot-2021-05-16-035428.png (https://postimg.cc/sQsXcSGy)
Primebe's long bricks kept putting the team out of rhythm and was spoon feeding teams easy possessions. Wade, Bron, Bosh, Howard scoring on a 60-70% clip, then you had Kobe who couldn't slow himself from getting outshined by baby Wade and Bron so he went 2004 Finals mode and relentlessly spitfired bricks

Team USA wouldn't even been down in that tight position if Wade would have been allowed to start over him. Just days earlier they melted Spain with Kobe playing like ass

[mehyaM24]

kobe was great against spain. team usa's only real comp.

[ShawkFactory]

kobe was great against spain. team usa's only real comp.

Kobe was also 29 and literally at his peak as an overall player and leader.

There's not really any shame in him being for 23 year old Lebron.

[mehyaM24]

Kobe was also 29 and literally at his peak as an overall player and leader.

There's not really any shame in him being for 23 year old Lebron.

i dont understand your last sentence. are you saying kobe was better than lebron. or just a better leader?

[ShawkFactory]

i dont understand your last sentence. are you saying kobe was better than lebron. or just a better leader?

It was supposed to state that there is no shame on Lebron's part for not being the "man" on that team when he was 23 and Kobe was at his peak.

In 2008 Kobe was both better and a better leader.

[sdot_thadon]

Not to let logic get in the way of trolling, but when we talk about the 2004 team does no one really realize Lebron was 9th on the team in minutes on a 12 man roster? There were 5 guys on the team over 20 mpg. Lebron was at 12 mpg. Carmelo? Half of that. There's almost 2 lineups worth of guys that played more minutes. But yeah Lerbonze.....

[ShawkFactory]

Not to let logic get in the way of trolling, but when we talk about the 2004 team does no one really realize Lebron was 9th on the team in minutes on a 12 man roster? There were 5 guys on the team over 20 mpg. Lebron was at 12 mpg. Carmelo? Half of that. There's almost 2 lineups worth of guys that played more minutes. But yeah Lerbonze.....

Everyone realizes this :lol

[scuzzy]

Everyone realizes this :lol
they take all the little they can get :lol

[tpols]

Shit they shouldve let rookie Wade and LeBron get all Marbury and iversons shots lol. Mightve still lost but would have had a better chance. Those two knuckleheads ruined 2004.

[mehyaM24]

It was supposed to state that there is no shame on Lebron's part for not being the "man" on that team when he was 23 and Kobe was at his peak.

In 2008 Kobe was both better and a better leader.

wade was probably the best player on that team. but kobe definitely brought a new dynamic to team usa. the player and coach testimonials are all out there. the gold medal game is also on youtube for everyone to watch. dont get why people undermine kobe's leadership. its common knowledge at this point. what's interesting is wade & lebron having their BEST statistical years, the following season.

[DABIGSALSISHA]

wade was probably the best player on that team. but kobe definitely brought a new dynamic to team usa. the player and coach testimonials are all out there. the gold medal game is also on youtube for everyone to watch. dont get why people undermine kobe's leadership. its common knowledge at this point. what's interesting is wade & lebron having their BEST statistical years, the following season.

Statistics, statistics and more statistics.

What's the % that this wig has 5% green in it?

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[mehyaM24]

the lebron obsession continues lol

[Hey Yo]

Why didnt Kobe play in the 04 Olympics?

Did he get arrested or something?

[kawhileonard2]

Why didnt Kobe play in the 04 Olympics?

Did he get arrested or something?

He played when he played. Lebron won 2 bronze medals and only won gold medal once Kobe was there.

[8Ball]

He played when he played. Lebron won 2 bronze medals and only won gold medal once Kobe was there.

LeBron made Olympic basketball team as a 18 year old rookie.

Jordan was on the bench in college at 18 years old. :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

LeBron made Olympic basketball team as a 18 year old rookie.

Jordan was on the bench in college at 18 years old. :lol

wouldn't say he made the team. the team was more about marketing guys at that time. it's why they lost with that sorry ass squad

[8Ball]

wouldn't say he made the team. the team was more about marketing guys at that time. it's why they lost with that sorry ass squad

My point is, at all phases of LeBron's basketball career he was superior to Jordan.

Better at basketball in high school.
Made Olympic + NBA team at 18 years old!

Jordan was mediocre in high school, and wasn't good enough at 18 to make NBA, let alone the olympic team.

[kawhileonard2]

LeBron made Olympic basketball team as a 18 year old rookie.

Jordan was on the bench in college at 18 years old. :lol

Jordan won only gold medals, while Lebron was winning bronze medals.

[8Ball]

LeBron playing against international professionals while Jordan playing against college kids :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

My point is, at all phases of LeBron's basketball career he was superior to Jordan.

Better at basketball in high school.
Made Olympic + NBA team at 18 years old!

Jordan was mediocre in high school, and wasn't good enough at 18 to make NBA, let alone the olympic team.

mj couldn't have made the olympic team because high schoolers didn't make it. most guys went to college for 4 years or at least 3. if mj was coming out of high school today he certainly wouldn't have spent 3 years in college. different times

[8Ball]

mj couldn't have made the olympic team because high schoolers didn't make it. most guys went to college for 4 years or at least 3. if mj was coming out of high school today he certainly wouldn't have spent 3 years in college. different times

Jordan needed 3 years of college to get the #3 pick.
Jordan averaged 14ppg in his 1st year of college.
Wasn't good enough to make the Olympic team regardless of limitations.

Bron was #1 draft pick at 18 years old and made the olympic team his 1st NBA season.

[Xiao Yao You]

Jordan needed 3 years of college to get the #3 pick.
Jordan averaged 14ppg in his 1st year of college.
Wasn't good enough to make the Olympic team regardless of limitations.

Bron was #1 draft pick at 18 years old and made the olympic team his 1st NBA season.

there actually wasn't an olympic team in '80 anyway! mj started on the national champs and hit the game winning shot in an era when seniors were the best players not freshman like today. jordan certainly would have been a high pick after his sophomore year too

lebron won a bronze while mj won a national championship :roll:

[8Ball]

there actually wasn't an olympic team in '80 anyway! mj started on the national champs and hit the game winning shot in an era when seniors were the best players not freshman like today. jordan certainly would have been a high pick after his sophomore year too

lebron won a bronze while mj won a national championship :roll:

Making an Olympic NBA team >>>>>>> Anything you can do in college :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

Making an Olympic NBA team >>>>>>> Anything you can do in college :lol

not really. College basketball was certainly a lot more competitive than international ball in the early 80's. Being on the worst international team in USA history isn't something to be proud of

[TAZORAC]

and I truly believe like most others, that 2008 redeem team would have ran 92 old guys off the floor. coach K had those young bucks in their athletic prime and were nearly all shooting at extremely high % during the tournament. correct me if i'm wrong the only player over 30 was kidd and redd if i'm not mistaken, who barely even saw floor time. i don't even think the 92 competition even had more than 5 nba players participate outside of USA, the league was still very national minded.

92 Dream team was overrated...I'd favor 96 dream team over 92

[DABIGSALSISHA]

92 Dream team was overrated...I'd favor 96 dream team over 92

:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm

These kids.

[kawhileonard2]

not really. College basketball was certainly a lot more competitive than international ball in the early 80's. Being on the worst international team in USA history isn't something to be proud of

Not really! College Basketball actually had multiple stars each year

[Shooter]

https://i.postimg.cc/0r1J1CYb/Loyalkobe0.jpg

Wrap it up

[Shooter]

When they bring up a meaningless olympics game from 2004 :lol